Outrageous Treatment of ALMA PARRIS Students and PARENTS Must be CHALLENGED

Submitted by David Comissiong, President, Clement Payne Movement

David Comissiong – Citizen Advocate

If it is true that the students of the Alma Parris Memorial Secondary School and their parents were NOT consulted in any way BEFORE Minister Ronald Jones and the Ministry of Education made the decision to close down the Alma Parris Memorial Secondary School and to unilaterally assign the students to a variety of other learning institutions, I would strongly advise the parents to join together in a collective body and to engage the services of an Attorney-at-Law to challenge the decision in the Law Court.

It is totally ridiculous and unacceptable that in 21st Century Barbados a Government Minister and/or a Government Ministry could believe that they are entitled to make a decision that so fundamentally impacts on a class of citizens of the country, and that they are under no obligation to consult those citizens.

Not only is this backward, “stone age” thinking, but it is also in conflict with the LAW of Barbados, and should therefore be rigorously challenged, even if it means having to go to the Law Courts.

The fact of the matter is that under the “Common Law” that operates in Barbados a “public authority” is bound by a duty to act fairly towards those members of the public that it serves, and one component of that Common Law duty to act fairly is the duty  to consult .

This Common Law principle was expressed by Lord Wilson in the 2014 English case of “R (on the application of Moseley)  v  London Borough of Haringey” as follows:-

” A public authority’s duty to consult those interested before taking a decision can arise in a variety of ways. Most commonly, as here, the duty is generated by statute. Not infrequently, however, it is generated by the duty cast by the common law upon a public authority to act fairly. The search for the demands of fairness in this context is often illumined by the doctrine of legitimate expectation; such was the source, for example, of its duty to consult the residents of  a care home for the elderly before deciding whether to close it in R  v  Devon County Council, ex parte Baker (1995) 1 All ER 73. “

The time has come when Barbadians– particularly working class Barbadians who are so often treated with a contempt that would never be meted out to the wealthy— must no longer put up with this backward, arrogant, and patronizing behaviour on the part of State officials who are not only supposed to be their servants, but who are also supposed to be accountable to them.

I witnessed this type of behaviour before with the manner in which the said Minister Ronald Jones and the senior officials of his Ministry closed down the historic Society Primary school— the oldest primary school in the entire English speaking Caribbean. As with the case of the Alma Parris school, there was no consultation with the parents of the students before the decision to close Society school was made.

The parents of the Society students and old scholars of the school initially did the right thing by coming together to form a Committee to protest the closure of the school, but we  erred by not taking the matter to Court. Our Committee made the mistake of accepting assurances given to us by Jones — assurances that were never kept !

It is time that somebody sends a very serious message to Jones about his callous and patronizing attitude towards the very people that he is duty-bound to serve!

In fact, it is high time that we make the entire Barbadian political class understand that Barbados must function as a “participatory Democracy”– that Barbados must be a society in which the sovereign power of the people is respected, and in which the people are permitted to exercise their rightful role by being involved in the national decision-making processes. And central to such democratic participatory involvement is CONSULTATION.

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115 Comments on “Outrageous Treatment of ALMA PARRIS Students and PARENTS Must be CHALLENGED”

  1. Prodigal Son July 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM #

    I pity you!

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  2. Carson C. Cadogan July 11, 2017 at 5:22 PM #

    The only people Comisiong can fool are the Old age pensioners on Barbados Underground and DAVID. Everybody else ask to be excused.

    If he is so concerned about citizen rights, why wont he go to Venezuela and the free the Venezuelans from the tyranny of the present regime in Venezuela which is burning its citizens alive in the streets. I don’t see any of that happening in Barbados.

    Or better still go over to Cuba where the Jew, Fidel Castro launch an oppressive regime decades ago which tramples on every Human right known to man and free the Cubans from Hell on Earth known as Cuba.

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  3. angela Skeete July 11, 2017 at 6:18 PM #

    David Comissiong July 11, 2017 at 1:57 PM #

    I am not surprised or disappointed that two of the Alma Parris parents are so relieved at having their children placed in a school for the up-coming September term that they have no interest in pursuing the breach of their legal right to be consulted. Indeed, I fully expected that that would be the attitude of perhaps a majority of the parents.

    No! their is only one disappointment and that is the one that serves your interest which in this case an interest which was removed by concerned parents not letting you salivate at the in your toxic attempt once again to the drag govt through the court, that is your only disappointment nothing more nothing less
    the country is hurting financially but for you it doesn’t matter how much millions of dollars govt has to spend of taxpayers money to fight your relentless tirades in court,
    You are one mean spirited and heartless demagogue who have used democracy as a battering ram to hoist your political agenda , however at the end of the day barbadians would have wised up to your deceit and blatant abuse of democratic powers which you have use as a shield of protection

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  4. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger July 11, 2017 at 6:29 PM #

    So Carson…all the Barbados governments ever do is join with the local business crooks and steal all the peoples pension money and taxpayers dollars and you dont see that as crimes against the people and a violation of their rights to have their money secured and not mismanaged by greedy government ministers and thieving business people.

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  5. Prodigal Son July 11, 2017 at 7:34 PM #

    I was stunned to read the article in Barbados Today where the two resident parasites have been touting saying that the parents have rejected David Comissiong’s offer of help.

    I have empathy for the parents and I am saddened that these parents admitted that the children cannot write their names at 15 years old…….but the government is helping we so that the boys are not left to roam the streets and be swallowed up by the bad men…………

    Poor souls, if these children cannot write their names, do they really think that the childrem will survive in St George Secondary or Parkinson.

    The parents who were interviewed expressed disappointment that the boys were not placed on Parkinson……….I thought Parkinson was ranked way above St George…………………..

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  6. David July 11, 2017 at 7:45 PM #

    We must feel sorry for the parents, their world is a tough one. There isn’t much difference between the Parkinsons, St.Georges, St.James, St. Lucys etc. These are poor hardworking people that the media always highlight to sell a story.

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  7. Bush Tea July 11, 2017 at 8:45 PM #

    The sad truth is that wunna people – (and David Come-and-sing-a-song in particular), are talking about “real real” PEOPLE…

    Real People have PRIDE in themselves …and expect to be consulted.
    Real People are self-respecting, and expect to be treated with respect in turn…
    Real People have an innate drive to see their children become better PERSONS than they themselves..

    But wunna are actually dealing with Bajans…. certified brass bowls – who are content to be treated like animals …while driven by a “mendicant dependency syndrome”.

    Brass bowls have no self pride.
    Brass bowls do not stand up for principle..
    Brass bowls have no interest in seeing their children be anything but brass bowls…
    They accept any shiite and welcome being pissed on…

    Bajans actually DESERVE the Carson Cadogans and the angela skeetes of the DLP.
    A people ALWAYS get exactly what they deserve. This is an unassailable and unchangeable spiritual law of BBE …and is executed by Lady Karma….

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  8. angela Skeete July 11, 2017 at 9:07 PM #

    Blah Blah Blah bush tea u have been reciting the same things every since Adam was a lad , Adam has grown up he has a wife and kids living in barbados all of which got free education unlike u whose only contributions to barbados economy is to call for gangster warfare , Adam and his wife and three kids has given back in great amounts to the barbados economy
    i think you should add your list to the brass bowl list as a life long member of the Do Nothing Club for certainly you have earned your wings

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  9. Gabriel July 11, 2017 at 9:09 PM #

    I won’t be surprised if the parents vote Dems too.they are so apologetic of the ministry of education.Clearly,they don’t know their rights so they accept crap from the minister and his multi-mat head CEO.

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  10. Carson C. Cadogan July 11, 2017 at 9:24 PM #

    Why is it so hard for you BLP brown nosers to admit that you were wrong?

    The parents have more sense than you lot give them credit for. They know that their children will be well taken care of. They hate having to hear everytime that their children go to the Duncey school.

    They want better for their children. And who can blame them?

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  11. Carson C. Cadogan July 11, 2017 at 9:30 PM #

    If Comissiong is looking for customers for his one door Legal shop , then he should go about it in a different manner.

    Not try to stir up strife in the country.

    It is just not fair to ask poor parents to give him what little money they have when he knows that there nothing to go to Court for.

    Smart parents, give me common sense people any day of the week.

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  12. de pedantic Dribbler July 11, 2017 at 9:37 PM #

    This i can only describe as a rather strange head-in-sand attitude by US ALL re this Alma Parris episode.

    Prodigal do allow me to segue from your 7:34 PM post.

    Do we as Bajans really feel “empathy for the parents’ really. REALLY. Or is it relief…we can afford lessons!

    Every year, according to some Bajan experts, almost 40% -50% of the 11 plus students get 7 of every 10 questions WRONG or cannot get above 30 % on writing exposition/story telling. Obviously some do worst.

    Almost half our youth in supposedly 99% literate Bdos are failing at that stage! Wow. Admittedly for different reasons but that is still mind numbing.

    The experts will caution with worry that the percentile is much higher now than with earlier generations in Bim.

    In fact a simple argument can be made that this burgroning problem was so drastic TWENTY years ago that a previous administration instituted the Alma Parris school..and had planned to implement at least two other similar schools to take many of that cohort from the other schools as mentioned above.

    So why this gnashing of teeth as if this is some eureka moment!!

    We know that more kids are having kids and that there is more salacious wanton activities that entice many of the youth to repeat the cycle disastrously.

    We surely must recognize therefore that there is a really big and growing problem as it relates to these children and we clearly cannot continue to pay mere lip service to the issue…and do absolutely mind blowing political nonsense.

    I feel sad and empathetic for my nation…not for those parents alone ….because we who are looking forward to retirement or those already retired better be prepared to deal with the results of this conniption as many of these kids will surely “…be swallowed up by the bad men…” to our everlasting pain.

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  13. Simple Simon July 11, 2017 at 10:17 PM #

    In the good old days in Barbados few women drank alcohol, and even fewer drank to excess. In the good old days in Barbados nobody smoked marijuana. In the good old days in Barbados women never smoked cigarettes. In the good old days in Barbados 60 and 70 year old men could not beget children, principally because they could not get an erection.

    Welcome to the future where both men and women drink to excess, where many many people smoke marijuana, where men and women smoke tobacco, where old, old men take viagra and cialis and go on to beget children.

    It is no longer the good old days.

    Welcome to the future.

    Wunna ain’t see neffen yet.

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  14. Simple Simon July 11, 2017 at 10:26 PM #

    Barbados a country conceived in rum, but we feel good to fool ourselves that none of our children have fetal alcohol syndrome. What if our Ministry of Health/Quuen Elizabeth Hospital/Bayview Hospital were REQUIRED to collect data on the children born to alcoholic or binge drinking mothers. What if we were required to track those children until the end of their school life? What if our policies were formulated based on that data?

    Right now I am certain that NOBODY at the Ministry of Education can tell us how many children in the system were born to alcoholic or binge drinking mothers. And nobody can tell us where those children are, or how they are doing.

    If we put our hands over our eyes and over our ears we can pretend that nothing bad is happening to some of our children even before they are born.

    Only ’bout hay.

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  15. Prodigal Son July 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM #

    Dont get me wrong, de pandantic Dribbler………..I really do empathize with parents like the ones in the article.

    I cannot for the life of me understand how parents can have children and only when they reach age 11 that they find out that the child cannot read……….and to make matters worse at 15 a child cannot write its name. Do parents read their children’s reports? I had to stand in front of my dad as he read my report at the end of every term.

    From very early on, before age one, we read to our children every day. From the time they were able to read, they read to us and they had to tell us what they understood…….this stood them in great stead as they both got A’s in the CE. We bought the good old Royal reader books that we grew up using to teach them at home. When our friends asked what gifts to buy our children, we told them buy books. To this day, my children have not parted with their books………and they continue to be avid readers.

    So I just cannot understand how parents do not know that they children cannot read or write their names…….and I dont want anyone saying that some children are priviledged……..if two people make the decision to make children, they have the responsibility to ensure the child has a fighting chance.

    We would not need the school that the resident yardfowl refers to as “the duncy school”.

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  16. Simple Simon July 11, 2017 at 11:03 PM #

    @Prodigal Son July 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM “if two people make the decision to make children, they have the responsibility to ensure the child has a fighting chance.”

    I don’t know in which bubble you live.

    But two people making child bearing decisions what!!!

    Sometimes neither of the two people have made a child bearing decision

    Sometimes people don’t even make the decision to have sex.

    Tell the truth now haven’t you ever taken a piece when you were impaired by alcohol? What if a child had been conceived then? What if the woman was not your wife? What then?

    What sort of decisions can people high on drugs or alcohol make?

    O you are one of those people who think that alcoholics and druggies don’t make babies.

    Clearly you have never worked in human services, nor heard a man declare with reference to a child born of his own sexual activity “wha’ wunna call me for, I did dun pay for that pvssy”

    Get thee out of thy well educated middle class bubble.

    Get into the real-real world.

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  17. Simple Simon July 11, 2017 at 11:05 PM #

    D-Y-S-F-U-N-C-T-I-O-N.

    Sometime multiple generations of dysfunction.

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  18. Simple Simon July 11, 2017 at 11:16 PM #

    @Prodigal Son July 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM “From very early on, before age one, we read to our children every day. From the time they were able to read, they read to us.”

    I was talking to a young man recently. He has three sets of twins, by three different women. Do you think that those 6 children get read to by their parents every day?

    But don’t let us just look at the working class. When our politicians have children with women not their wives, do you think that those children get read to by their daddies every day?

    Have any of our Prime Ministers ever had outside children? Did these Prime Ministerial daddies leave their inside children every day to go read to their outside children?

    And now let us get to the plantocrats. Like most Bajans I grew up in a village where the planter had a wife in the house, and children with multiple women in the village. Do you think that those mulatto children were read to by their white daddies every day? You ever see a white Bajan man reading to a “coloured” child yet?

    If a judge, a pastor, a reverend, a priest (Catholic or not) takes a piece on the side do you think that he leaves his mansion, his rectory to read to his unacknowledged child every day?

    These children are people too.

    Or are they?

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  19. Prodigal Son July 11, 2017 at 11:42 PM #

    You dont fail to live up to your moniker!

    Continue to make excuses for irresponsible parents. Yes, I live happily in my middle class bubble.

    I made a decision to have children and I took responsibility for them and I am proud of the success they have made of the opportunities afforded them!

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  20. Simple Simon July 11, 2017 at 11:48 PM #

    @Prodigal Son July 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM “I don’t want anyone saying that some children are priviledged.”

    But some children are priviledged

    Priviledged is the child who has two loving competent parents.

    However money does not always equal priviledge. Did not Steve Jobs deny for almost a decade that he was the father of his first child? In spite of a positive paternity test did he not state that 28% of the men in the United States could be the father of his child? Did he not refuse to pay child support for the first nine years of the child’s life, while the mother worked as a maid, he became a millionaire and the government supported his child?

    What if the government and the mother had not supported the child? You know that chronic hunger damages a child’s brain right?

    You know that Steve Jobs is not the only wufless man right?

    You know that some parents NEVER support their children right?

    What do you think happens to poor Bajan children when their fathers refuse to support them? You know that it is hard to study when your belly is growling right?

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  21. Simple Simon July 11, 2017 at 11:56 PM #

    @Prodigal Son July 11, 2017 at 11:42 PM “Continue to make excuses for irresponsible parents.”

    A Simple Response: Not excuses man. Just reality.

    @Prodigal Son July 11, 2017 at 11:42 PM “I made a decision to have children and I took responsibility for them and I am proud of the success they have made of the opportunities afforded them.”

    A Simple Response: So did I. So did I. But I am not foolish enough to believe that I will ever live in a world where all parents are responsible. And when parents fail, as some always will then it is the duty of government to step up.

    @Prodigal Son July 11, 2017 at 11:42 PM “Yes, I live happily in my middle class bubble.”

    A Simple Response: I don’t. I can’t be happy when government withdraws services from the most vulnerable. I can’t be happy when government acts in an ad hoc fashion. I can’t be happy when the Minister’s take back their 10% and buys new expensive vehicles for themselves while the children of the poor suffer.

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  22. Simple Simon July 12, 2017 at 12:01 AM #

    I don’t know how you can be happy.

    but I am not happy.

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  23. Bush Tea July 12, 2017 at 6:59 AM #

    Shiite Simple!!…. you kicking up some REAL dust nowadays….
    You sure you is a Bajan?!!

    Why don’t you tell them that in many cases, bad as the children are, when you talk to the parents of these children you find that the parents are even more stupid and ignorant?

    Why don’t you tell them that there are some people in our society that are so spoiled and hopeless that both them and their children will need SPECIAL INTERVENTIONS if there is to be any hope of turning them around?

    Why are you not explaining that the complete IDIOCY of just mixing these hopeless, lost souls in with the fragile youth in our schools, has long ago been spelt out by the proverb which says that “a single bad apple will spoil a whole school’…?

    Why are you not talking about the FACT that we have now reached the stage in Barbados where our NATIONAL decisions are being made by the kind of parents that you have so vividly described…

    ….so what other decisions would you expect from Froon, Jones et al…?

    Trust Bushie on this….
    If Cynthia Forde is so vehemently against this shiite, then it has to be a bad move.
    There is a woman whose heart is correctly located…..

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  24. David July 12, 2017 at 7:09 AM #

    @Bush Tea

    Anyone with a heart who has operated close to these Alma students are acutely aware about one thing, they need special attention, from special teachers delivered in a special environment.

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  25. Simple Simon July 12, 2017 at 10:02 AM #

    @Bush Tea July 12, 2017 at 6:59 AM “Shiite Simple!!…. you kicking up some REAL dust nowadays…You sure you is a Bajan?!!”

    Well both my parents, and all 4 of my grandparents tell me that izza a Bajan, and they give my the Bajan birth certificate but I can’t really verify that i is truly a Bajan, because it may happen that all 6 of them, and the registry was lying. All 7 of them may have given me fake news.

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  26. millertheanunnaki July 12, 2017 at 11:13 AM #

    @ Simple Simon July 11, 2017 at 11:48 PM
    “@Prodigal Son July 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM “I don’t want anyone saying that some children are priviledged.”
    But some children are priviledged
    Priviledged is the child who has two loving competent parents.”

    Simple Simon, you are not easy, at all. Shooting from the hip all around.
    Both PUDRYR (Piece, the SSS sweet ole man) and Bush Tea all singing your praises.

    But the miller staying out of your line of fire, bozie.

    Because I now understand why you want the Bajan women of reproductive capacity to get involved with the Chinese ex-prisoners so that they could get some ‘good treatment’.

    You call it “Priviledged” not “Size does Matter”.

    Guess it’s better to have an ‘in-house’ Oriental father who is an ex-con than a birth certificate with the “name of the father” section marked: ‘Any one from the sperm bank with the DNA of tall, dark, home and hung like a donkey’.

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  27. Vincent Haynes July 12, 2017 at 12:09 PM #

    David

    …..they need special attention, from special teachers delivered in a special environment.
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    Well said and simple……this is the point that the “Dribbler” refuses to understand……nor some of the parents of the students and definitely not this govt.

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  28. Simple Simon July 12, 2017 at 12:32 PM #

    I know that some of you love the Bible, so here is something that Christians, Muslims, Jews, Rastafarians and even non-believers can agree on.

    “That same day Pharaoh gave this order to the slave drivers and overseers in charge of the people “You are no longer to supply the people with straw for making bricks; let them go and gather their own straw. But require them to make the same number of bricks as before; don’t reduce the quota. They are lazy; that is why they are crying out.” Exodus 5.

    Read that then ask the Minister, or the teacher’s union, or ask the Chief Education Officer whether or not several teachers were removed from the Alma Parris school. Ask them because they ought both to know when the Alma Parris School lost its Math and English teachers. And now we have the Minister talking about the school not performing up to standard. Ask the Minister and the the Chief Education Officer how can a school perform if it is deprived of its best teachers?

    “That same day big chiefs gave this order to the overseers in charge of the school “You are no longer to supply the school with the specialists teachers required; let the parents, teachers, principal, and children go and find their own specialist teachers. But require them to get the same results as Harrison College at the end of five years; don’t reduce the number of CXC’s the children must earn. The children, their parents, the teachers and the principal are lazy; that is why they are crying out.” Exodos 5.

    Has a demon imposed this burden on the children and their teachers, and their parents?

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  29. de pedantic Dribbler July 12, 2017 at 12:37 PM #

    Vincent can you please desist from mischaracterizing my remarks.

    I have been as explicit as humanely possible in my remarks above so it is beyond untenable re your 12:09 PM.

    Our Bdos issues with developmentally challenged children did NOT start 20 years ago with Alma Parris so please cease with this simplistic determination that these kids need special attention by special teachers…not to be rude brother but it’s akin to your rather simplistic remarks re the electorate needing to be properly informed (or words to that effect).

    Since I was a lad Bdos was training teachers to handle kids with special needs of various types ..I know this first hand.

    I am over 50 now @Vincent so please get real.

    The country now has several well trained Phds, MSC etc across the system…

    Some are friends who are trained extensively in the “special ed’ disciplines and they are NOT at Alma…but dispensing that training to similar needy kids at other schools.

    The point being that those steeped in the field or have been paying attention for years KNOW THE NEEDS OF THIS COHORT OF CHILDREN … and gnashing of teeth re Alma’s political nonsense is NOT the issue in the least.

    The PROBLEM IS WELL BEYOND THAT.

    Simple has said it well so maybe you can focus on her ass-kicking style and dismiss the factual basis I offered. Alas.

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  30. Vincent Haynes July 12, 2017 at 12:51 PM #

    dpD

    Chuckle…..no need to throw a hissy fit youngster.

    You keep referring to the fact….that we know….we have trained….

    The point is that we have not implemented it where it would serve the greatest good…..even you alluded to it,by referring to those talents being used at other schools by your friends,though admirable that was never the intention.

    A country will only move forward if the masses are fully seized of the country’s vision and buy into it….hence my continous harping on being properly informed…..its an aspirational goal…..no need to fear causing me offence….been in town long.

    I will give you the last word youngster and hope your fuse is firmly back in place…lest I accuse of what you have accused many on here of.

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  31. Simple Simon July 12, 2017 at 1:28 PM #

    If we don’t take care of our vulnerable children now, then we will take care of them in jail, but we can’t keep them in jail forever because it is too expensive to do so. And when they are out without the means of earning a living, then what?

    We, all of us want a decent society. A society where an old lady can walk to church at 6 in the morning, or 7 at night. We want a society where if our daughters have worked late, they can walk safely home from the bus stop, or drive home without being carjacked. We want a society where our elderly fathers can enjoy a coffee or a beer on their own verandas.

    In order to have such a society we have to find ways to include everybody. And this is not because we are being altruistic. We want a good society, because a good society is good for us– all of us.

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  32. Vincent Haynes July 12, 2017 at 1:33 PM #

    Simple Simon July 12, 2017 at 1:28 PM #

    Well stated…..totally agree,especially the last line.

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  33. de pedantic Dribbler July 12, 2017 at 1:50 PM #

    Hissy fit you say, oh lawd! Pray tell what would that offer in a debate as serious as this one.

    Can I ONE MORE time disavow you on the simple INACCURATE characterization that :

    “The point is that we have not implemented it where it would serve the greatest good…..even you alluded to it,by referring to those talents being used at other schools by your friends,though admirable that was never the intention.”

    NO NO, NO.

    My remarks were meant to convey that Alma Parris IS not, WAS not, and WOULD never be the single solution to the problems we faced.

    You seem to perceive despite all the evidence that there are but a few children seized into the ‘developmental challenged’ spectrum and that those kids can be wonderfully housed at an Alma Parris with one wonderful group of trained teachers.

    No Vincent.

    The school would have to be as large as your alma mater trending towards 700 to 800 and not the under 200 they had at Alma but moreso that would also mean drawing children from all across the island to one specialized school.

    Maybe there was a time that was possible but not NOW. Too many kids are falling into that spectrum…and have been at the many schools David mentioned above: St. George, St.Lucy, Grantley Adams, Parkinson et al. THUS the reason the teachers are throughout the system.

    Alma Parris’ existence is a symptom of a grave problem…it’s closure is not a validation that the problem is any worst but rather one of – in my view – nonsensical policy disagreement.

    Or to use the Simple Simon’s evocation:

    —- “…What if we were required to track those children until the end of their school life? What if our policies were formulated based on that data?…

    “Right now I am certain that NOBODY at the Ministry of Education can tell us how many children in the system were born to [biological disadvantages like drug dependency or] to alcoholic or binge drinking mothers. And nobody can tell us where those children are, or how they are doing.

    “[We prefer to] put our hands over our eyes and over our ears we can pretend that nothing bad is happening to some of our children even before they are born [ and that they will all become awesome socially capable citizens after a few years in school].” —–

    YES we need more special attention but its needed at MANY schools.

    Do you know that children ‘passing’ for XXXX school cannot complete an Infants A test in first form. Bro NONE of those kids were at Alma.

    They tell me that more kids at Kolig and your Waterford U for example are also showing poorer writing skills.

    I don’t need the last word old chap…no sireee. Give that to Simple. She is graphic and pellucid. …as she alludes to, let them breed them drunk or otherwise disadvantaged and let’s pretend all will be well cause we are in our nice middle class enclaves!

    I gone. Duty and work calls.

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  34. Vincent Haynes July 12, 2017 at 3:58 PM #

    dpD

    Good response….a bit prolix as is your want.

    We may have found common ground by your suggestion that all schools require a wing in order to deal with special needs children as their detection has out grown the size of the Alma Parris school intent.

    I am not sure if we have put to bed the difference between special needs and slow learners

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  35. Bush Tea July 12, 2017 at 4:34 PM #

    Steupsss…
    Trust Vincent and Dribbles to come and confuse the damn issue after it had been so SIMPLY explained by S. Simon. Our first failure as a country was to not have the damn school back when it was needed by the two of wunna bowls…

    The issue is NOT that we would need a much bigger school …. it is that a start in the right direction …has been reversed by an idiot…. and done so in a crude, ugly and unmannerly way.

    If wunna want to get specific…then ALL BAJAN schools should be of the Edna Nicholls type – cause the bright fellows from HC and Queens clearly don’t know one shiite – if we judge from the results being obtained. ….and the two of wunna probably could not be helped EVEN with a special school…

    and Hal would probably have been expelled from Edna Nicholls….. 🙂

    Two lukewarm, shiite-talkers, who admit to scant understanding of life’s issues, but who persists with a lotta talk anyway…
    LOL
    …Or Is that ‘lukewarm ignorance’ the basis for wunna expertise on this topic?

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  36. Simple Simon July 12, 2017 at 9:03 PM #

    2 1/2 hours in the gym and I am ready.

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  37. Bush Tea July 12, 2017 at 9:20 PM #

    @ Simple

    It must take real stamina for an old gal like you to be oogling the young trainers for so long….

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  38. TheGazer July 12, 2017 at 9:24 PM #

    @Bushmater
    You are taking no prisoners.
    @Simple…. for what???

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  39. Simple Simon July 12, 2017 at 9:45 PM #

    I like to keep a happy home life and for that one must be fit.

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  40. Simple Simon July 12, 2017 at 9:51 PM #

    Nite, nite guys. Early night for me. Duty calls.

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