The Jefferson Cumberbatch Column – Today’s Morality, Yesterday’s Culture

Jeff Cumberbatch – Columnist, Deputy Dean of UWI, Law Faculty, Chairman of the FTC

It is, I suppose, inevitable in a modern developing society that previous conduct, not then expressly treated as illegal or even taboo, would come one day to be judged in the harsh light of an arguably more humane polity, one more officially respectful of the rights of each individual to dignity and autonomy. The examples of this ethical dilemma as to how we should treat past conduct that would not have complied with today’s more rigid moral standards abound. We see it in the modern regional movement for reparations to be made by those nations who profited from the practices of slavery and the slave trade that were officially condoned at the time although arguably contrary to international law. Now, the notions of slavery and a slave trade are patently contrary to international and municipal human rights norms and would not be publicly condoned by any respectable nation.

We see it too, in the relatively recent allegations of past sexual misconduct leveled at prominent figures in cosmopolitan societies, a phenomenon of seemingly global proportions, engendered principally by the #Me Too movement although, remarkably, not yet extant in the region or locally. Such instances of misconduct, apart, of course, from those that constituted an infringement of the criminal law such as rape and indecent assault or were otherwise patently egregious, would back then have been largely condoned as acceptable badinage between the sexes. Nowadays, the suggestion as to where a colleague who complains of cold hands could warm them might lead to the dismissal or the forced resignation of a senior Cabinet minister as recently occurred in Britain.

The recent removal of the name “Milner” from the eponymous students’ hall of residence at the St Augustine Campus of the University of the West Indies in Trinidad as reported in yesterday’s issue of the Barbados Advocate would have also engaged this debate. The hall took the name of Lord Alfred Milner in 1927 as a result of his contribution to the Imperial College of Tropical Agriculture that was established in Trinidad & Tobago. It appears to have been recently discovered, nearly a century later, however, that Milner was unfit to be celebrated as a regional icon because according to research, he was a self-proclaimed “British race supremacist”, had described Africans as “savages” and was a founder of the inhuman system of apartheid institutionalized in South Africa in 1948. In addition to this he is reputed to have been an architect of Indian indentured servitude in the colony; a proponent of military colonialism in Africa and Asia; and had also functioned as “an aggressive imperialist”, committing crimes against humanity in Africa.

Clearly, by today’s law and moral standards, Lord Milner may justifiably be regarded as an international floutlaw who, rather than having a regional university hall of residence named after him, should be sentenced to death by an international criminal court, if that were possible. Yet, the natural order of things in his day permitted him to carry out these atrocities with impunity. One instinct of the modern defence lawyer would be to argue for holding the existing system culpable rather than the man himself. However, given our powerlessness in the former regard, the easy alternative is to hold the individual solely culpable for his or her own misconduct.

The argument also presents locally in the discourse as to the aptness of the statue of Lord Nelson who, as Milner, also had a rather chequered past, occupying pride of place in our renamed Heroes Square, and the appropriateness of the nomenclature that still adorns many of our streets and institutions. Incidentally, what is the past record of Thomas Harrison, after whom our, in my view, premier boy’s secondary school is named? What if it is subsequently discovered that one of landmark institutions is titled after someone who was once a serial pedophile, a sexual predator or, as is indeed the case, after a eminent perpetrator of the international criminal offence of piracy that, as I recall from my brief and survived exposure to international law, is contrary to the “jus gentium” [law of the people] and thus regarded as inherently criminal?

The resolution appears to lie in the exercise of sovereign power, whether this is determined to be located in the people themselves or in their representatives exclusively. Clearly, the fairest solution to this dilemma in some cases would seem to be through a referendum where a prescribed majority is required for any change. After all, this is consistent with our notions of pure democracy.

There are some circumstances however where our policymakers should be expected to act in a decisive fashion and to determine, as they do with regard to both the level of taxation necessary and the mode of disbursement of the public purse, what should be the current political stance on these matters of nomenclature and its pantheon of statuary. I am mindful that such decisiveness may prove to be electorally detrimental and that a cautious administration may prefer for the matter to be dissipated in sterile recurrent public discourse.

Further, a jurisdiction such as ours that relies almost exclusively on foreign investment attributable mainly to its stability may scarcely consider itself free to tamper with well-established precedent. The question therefore begs asking, how autonomous are we really?

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141 Comments on “The Jefferson Cumberbatch Column – Today’s Morality, Yesterday’s Culture”

  1. Dr. Simple Simon Phd November 12, 2017 at 10:14 PM #

    @Bernard Codrington. November 12, 2017 at 11:44 AM “But are we not using the spiteful,vengeful concept of God and visiting the sins of the fathers upon their children?”

    So who has visited sins on whom?

    Stupseee!!!

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  2. Bernard Codrington. November 12, 2017 at 10:30 PM #

    Simple Simon at 10 : 14 PM

    The message is not for you; that is why it does not resonate. Some cultures attribute to God human characteristics such as vengeance.
    .

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  3. Bernard Codrington. November 12, 2017 at 11:00 PM #

    Vincent Haynes at 8 : 39 PM

    You are spot on. We all have our agenda. Subconsciously and very often deliberately, we select information that supports our own beliefs and purpose. But that is the nature of man.

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  4. David November 13, 2017 at 12:51 AM #

    “Bernard and Vincent

    It seems like 101 a discussion approach to identify and explain the parts of the article in disagreement? Until you do the comments offered are generalizations to be generous.

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  5. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 4:45 AM #

    Simple……dont mind the few that bears ill will with their agendas directed against the majority population……….the young generation who have no patience for evil thinkers and evil doers will deal with them in grand style.

    Let them dont change the way they approach the Black population and they will all learn the hard way…….that their style of exploitation of the majority population will be met with brutal force, resistance and extinguished.

    …they are a minority population even on BU, a minority group in Barbados, their numbers keep dwindling the more they pretend the Black majority dont exist on the island and are only good for being exploited…. in 2017 ….most of these minorities arevdying out rapidly and all of that is for a very good reason.

    The sins of their fathers are following them with their every evil utterance and action or they would have given up on exploiting the Black population 50 years ago and not still forcing to continue the trend today…that is the evil their ancestors created following them….and they do not intend to stop until they are stopped….but they might not like how it ends.

    Bushman….dont mind Vincent, that is how evil fights to survive, by telling you that you cannot win….and unable to see that he has already lost….he is probably waiting for UK to help him keep the population as mindless slaves, we know that they were hoping the dummy trump could….but they dont realize that they themselves are likely to be imprisoned in the future if they dont stop with the exploitation……lol

    The world has reached its limits and has had enough of them all.

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  6. William Skinner November 13, 2017 at 8:15 AM #

    Changing the name of Harsun’s College will cause a national high blood pressure crisis. Now if we change Harsuns , Combamare and Queens, the entire health system would certainly collapse.
    Wid de current state of the economy it is unwise to even move Nelson !!!! I really still trying muh bes’ to understan when Harsuns and Combamare became our top schools. Uh cud only guess that Wesley Hall, St. Giles and Bay Street/Bay Primary and Baxtons en get nuh pick …….. Jah help us

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  7. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 9:29 AM #

    Lol…that would be awful, but vital to create positive changd..

    … really should not be happening in 2017… enlightened people understand that they still need more information, still have more to learn, that is the definition of true enlightenment. .

    …50 years of persistent brainwash has created a land of psychologically damaged souls, trying to hold on to THINGS of the past that destroyed their foreparents and left them damaged, but nevertheless, they are still trying to hold on to these THINGS..

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  8. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 9:31 AM #

    WW–you have been the epitome of Racism on BU, with some others occasionally attempting to usurp your leadership. Naturally, I dont come pun here expecting to win any popularity contests but to elucidate the Hypocrisy that is extent. Much of the time it is necessary to provide a dissenting view even when I dont feel strongly in the direction.

    Explain to me why BU should be a Mutual Admiration Society? Nothing can be accomplished by such.

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  9. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 9:52 AM #

    MoneyB…..keep it up and I will add racist to my moniker….ya know am not afraid….

    Highlighting that a bunch of racist greedy, minority bottom feeders on the island have been exploiting and ripping off the majority population on the island for decades…is not being racist,…it’s exposing thieves, racists and con men in the minority population…

    You love to get on here waxing hypocritical about ….you feel so sorry for the poor peeps in Barbados…..but it is your ilk keeping them poor by stealing from them..then they got the nerve to pretend they are superior and masters of the same majority population…..and you never mention that, how convenient….

    And there ya were thinking no one noticed.

    And ya forgetting when speaking to me….ya are not speaking to ya average Bajan.

    No one wants an MAS on BU…but it’s only a few of you are always in favor of an exploited majority population, whom you believe should be mislabeled to what you want them to be, with the minority population doing the mislabeling and exploiting……especially that joker Vincent who is famous for pushing his mislabeling agenda.

    …..none of you have ever offered anything that gives the majority population control of their own futures, immense wealth or seeing themselves other than the exploited….yall never, ever offer anything positive and always push an agenda of a minority of parasites controlling a majority population…..instead of pushing for the minorities finally knowing their place as minorities and living as equal citizens on the island with the majority.

    …and then you got the nerve to call ME racist.

    As things stand, it will end very badly, given the inequality in population size…if that decades old exploitative racist agenda the the minorities use to exploit the majority population ……..into another generation is not abandoned completely.

    Now call me racist again.

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  10. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 9:55 AM #

    I know for a fact yall like to pull that reverse psychology in Barbados….calling the bajans you exploit racist when they try to resist your racist exploitation,…but that could never work on me……try another scam…MoneyB.

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  11. Bernard Codrington. November 13, 2017 at 9:55 AM #

    @ David at 12 : 51 AM

    Has it not occurred to you that Vincent and I find the article below 101 and that a Common Entrance Candidate can do better?

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  12. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 10:11 AM #

    WW, you are Racist!
    Only simpletons wont appreciate that categorising of thousands of people as one makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

    So WW what are you threatening exactly? Lets kill Whitey as we are feeling suicidal today? Better to fix the bloody sewage problem in Rendezvous before plenty nuff innocent people die of some serious disease. My bad, the army of occupation could not run a snowball cart in the Bus stand in the mid day sun in September, such bad Whiteys!

    Your mantra–no more Whiteys and all problems will be solved. Alright den no more touristes, no more off shore Corps, no more banks (Beer nor financial), no more association with Europe nor NthAm, NO MORE BIM!

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  13. William Skinner November 13, 2017 at 10:18 AM #

    @ Hal
    Ah find um very strange dat u a proud Ivy
    boy en even put in a plug fuh St Giles
    Well lehbmuh put in a plug fuh Bay Primary
    Modern High and St Anthony’s. Ah got some
    very good and close friends who went to
    Parkinson. Ah begging fuhall wunnuh to
    give dem a plug too.
    Ah know all we does think dat all de primary
    school teachers is jes Dey doing mitten but
    let me give dem a plug too.
    Ah can’t understand how de ones pun de
    blog en rush to put dem usage schools
    in de long. Maybe duh just satisfied
    praising de big up schools and don want
    nun body to know wet de really went.
    PS. Pardon de dialect it more harder to
    write then the so- called standard English
    but ah trying.
    But ah trying……….

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  14. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 10:56 AM #

    MoneyB…while you are calling me racist…the nasty “color caste” system yall got going and trying to keep alive in Barbados and the Caribbean to continue ya exploitation and discrimination of the majority Black population…… is being exposed on Facbook as we speak, by people from as far as Addis Abbaba….who claimed they have never seen so much racism in their countries as they have seen and experienced in the Caribbean, but they understand that is the residue left over from the slave trade…and all agree it must be exposed and destroyed..

    Doubt me….ask Karl Watson or our PLT…I saw them commenting,…I am reading their responses.

    So call me racist again.

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  15. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 11:06 AM #

    “St Anthony’s”

    Now that was a good school, good principal…my sons spent 2 years there before returning to US in 93 to 95..sorry it no longer exists.

    Dont worry ah trying to write dialect so ah could cuss Vincent, he will regret the day I master it.

    MoneyB….stop trying to put words in my mouth, stop believing white people on the island are entitled…that is where all the problems arise.., that false belief of entitlement to exploit, steal from and discriminate against the majority population ..

    If exploiters refuse to stop practicing exploitation and get themselves killed…that is their problem…certainly not mine.

    What makes you believe you should be categorized differently to the majority population….do you squat differently, eat differently…..live forever. ….keep ya trifling ass quiet, you are no different than, better than or more important than any Black man or woman in Barbados.

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  16. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 11:25 AM #

    Ya can play the drama queen role as much as ya want MoneyB…but life will go on as normal when the minorities cannot exploit, discriminate against, steal from the majority….and practice racism…

    Tourists will still land….not being able to practice racism will not stop them…they got hundreds of millions of black tourists, the white ones will not stop arriving because you cant practice racism in Barbados…

    Corporations will not stop doing business because they cant exploit or practice racism…..they need to be able to put their funds somewhere.

    Yall been riding the coat tails of racism and exploitation too long and now do not know how to survive without it…..

    ….but the majority population is over 260,000 strong and do not need the minorities, racism, nor exploitation to survive…in other words…they do not need any of you, you are small in numbers and useless unless you change your demonic habits and useless, dangerous and destructive practices.

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  17. David November 13, 2017 at 11:47 AM #

    @Bernard

    Your way of not answering the question? What about the article you disagree?

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  18. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 1:04 PM #

    WW wrote,
    MoneyB….stop trying to put words in my mouth, stop believing white people on the island are entitled…that is where all the problems arise.., that false belief of entitlement to exploit, steal from and discriminate against the majority population ..

    WW where did I indicate anything close to that above? You need to read Goebbels and Fritsch AGAIN to hone your Brainwashing propaganda capabilities.

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  19. Hal Austin November 13, 2017 at 1:47 PM #

    William Skinner November 13, 2017 at 10:18 AM #

    My apologies for being late to the table, but I have said on a number of occasions here that St Giles has the best pedigree of any school in Barbados. In fact, I am still in touch with one of my old St Giles teachers and we share wonderful moments talking about the days of J.O. Morris and his high ethical principles and his commitment to the boys.
    May he rest in peace.

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  20. Well Well @ Cut N Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 1:53 PM #

    MoneyB..yeah, yeah…the point remains and the objective was to expose the repulsive racism and exploitation in Barbados and the Caribbean being practiced by a small minority, very tiny population of greedy people….

    believe it or not…and ya can ask PLT or Watson, the exposure on Facebook was not my doing…but Karma works in very mysterious ways..lol..

    a very beautiful Ethiopian woman posted she did not realize her Black skin was an issue until she lived in Canada…from there others from other countries started to comment about the disgusting racism now endemic to Barbados and the Caribbean, one person noted that they never knew about racism until they visited Barbados, then it was suggested that the practice of racism in the islands cannot be allowed to continue into another generation..

    none of that was my doing..

    so you can bring a thousand lame excuses…and blame me for everything …..everyone is on to the racist minorities and their nasty, repulsive practices….and it will be eradicated.

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  21. Well Well @ Cut N Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 2:00 PM #

    BTW…MoneyB…ya know that since it hit Facebook and gone global….yall cant hide it anymore to fool the world, ya know yall nastiness is now in the open and it will be an international topic for those working to eradicate racism, exploitation and discrimination…

    and Karma is so sweet, i did not even have to lift a finger….lol…i just watched it all unfold, hahaha..

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  22. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 2:03 PM #

    WW,
    What are you referring to? Hit FB?

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  23. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 2:07 PM #

    WW,Seretse Kama’s mother asked “how U going to wake up to see that White ghost every morning”.
    Racism runs very deep in every community, including those in Africa.

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  24. John November 13, 2017 at 2:14 PM #

    No other crop required so much animal- and human-power, so much fuel and care, so much capital and labor.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This is of course total, complete and utter BS!!

    Once first crop is established no weeding or cultivation for 5 or more years is needed, depending on the quality of the field.

    I have seen 13th crop being reaped in a good field!!

    There is a field at Society called “Never Failing”!!

    Wind replaced animal power and any energy for boiling comes/came from megasse/trash, that is, the same canes after grinding!!

    Typically a windmill had the power output of a lawn mower, 3.75 HP, source, the late Colin Hudson!!

    A cattle mill prior to wind was thus far less power!!

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0756CKQ3Z/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?psc=1

    Here is a one horsepower, 750 watt cane juicer, four of them would do the work of a windmill, once you have electricity!!

    Pretty easy to use Amazon.com today to replace a windmill!!

    Steam power replaced wind and factories were/are largely energy self sufficient, the water for steam came from the canes, and the megasse is burnt to produce the steam!!

    I have seen somewhere that 70 to 80 % of the weight of sugar cane is water.

    …. and if you look at the Census of Barbados in 1689, David Kent, you will see that the bulk of the “planters” owned small acreages and ran them with a handful of slaves.

    All this is to say the output of sugar in the days of slavery was tiny.

    Steam, field organization and mechanization after slavery increase this tiny output 20 fold!!

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  25. John November 13, 2017 at 2:17 PM #

    That’s why Sugar Cane works for Barbados!!!

    I see the dummies are still out in force!!

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  26. Vincent Haynes November 13, 2017 at 2:18 PM #

    MB

    You are wasting your time as that entity has an agenda which will not be diverted by logic commonsense reasoning or any attempts by you or others to bring facts to board.

    Its interesting to see what is attempted and only time will tell if they succeed.

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  27. Well Well @ Cut N Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 2:19 PM #

    you keep worrying about Africa, while we dismantle and eradicate the racism and exploitation in Barbados…

    ya will soon have to go to AFRICA to practice racism on black people, i wish you well…

    …keep blaming everything on the African continent, dont take any responsibility for your own dirty actions.

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  28. Well Well @ Cut N Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 2:27 PM #

    the other 2 jokers arrived…watch yall fantasies get shattered, old men with no useful vision.

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  29. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 2:33 PM #

    WW –wha dirty actions did I perpetrate?

    I am not responsible for anyone but myself.

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  30. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 2:35 PM #

    WW, this old man will not hold your youthful INexperience against U!

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  31. Sargeant November 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM #

    @MB

    Why bring up Seretse? Do you realize he was a hereditary ruler? His marriage costs as much consternation to the British Gov’t of Clement Atlee that did everything to prevent/dissolve it as they were trying to appease the SA and their abominable regime. His mother was reflecting the racism that the Malan Gov’t and South African whites had for them.
    BTW one of their sons is President of Botswana.

    You should watch “A United Kingdom”, it is currently on rotation on Rogers

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  32. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 3:13 PM #

    Sarge,
    Saw the trailers for that a few months back, will watch, thanks.
    I gots to have a lil fun wid WW, she needs the stimulation. haha

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  33. Well Well @ Cut N Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 3:17 PM #

    ya know MoneyB them aint too bright…lol

    they love to blame their own wicked actions on Africa…now it is all out in the open, let`s see them blame Africa for they themselves practicing racism and exploitation in Barbados and the Caribbean over the last 50 years..

    ……let`s see how well that works out now people are speaking out against it on a forum with over 2 billion members world wide.

    time is longer than twine….ah could not believe me eyes this morning…lol

    ..now that is power…

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  34. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 3:20 PM #

    WW, I am not certain what you are on about, point me in the right direction.

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  35. Well Well @ Cut N Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 3:23 PM #

    MoneyB…dont worry, ya finally on the right course, it took decades, but yall got there eventually…lol

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  36. Hants November 13, 2017 at 3:23 PM #

    White Bajans can be categorized as racists, separatists and not racists.

    I do not know what the percentage is in each category but some of you might.

    Whites have prospered because black Bajans are “nice an quiet” like they were taught to be in school and church.

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  37. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 3:26 PM #

    On Saturday, The New York Times ran yet another execrable op-ed, this time from Professor Ekow Yankah of the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law at Yeshiva University. This op-ed argued that black children should not be friends with white children, and that their parents ought to warn them off of such relationships. This assuredly makes things awkward at Yeshiva University, a Jewish school.

    The piece begins with Yankah’s oldest son, who is 4, talking about his friends:

    My oldest son, wrestling with a 4-year-old’s happy struggles, is trying to clarify how many people can be his best friend. “My best friends are you and Mama and my brother and …” But even a child’s joy is not immune to this ominous political period. This summer’s images of violence in Charlottesville, Va., prompted an array of questions. “Some people hate others because they are different,” I offer, lamely. A childish but distinct panic enters his voice. “But I’m not different.” It is impossible to convey the mixture of heartbreak and fear I feel for him. Donald Trump’s election has made it clear that I will teach my boys the lesson generations old, one that I for the most part nearly escaped. I will teach them to be cautious, I will teach them suspicion, and I will teach them distrust. Much sooner than I thought I would, I will have to discuss with my boys whether they can truly be friends with white people.

    This is insanity. Because Donald Trump was elected, all white people are suspect? Because there were 1,000 evil people marching for an evil cause in Charlottesville, some 200 million white people across America are suspect? This is racism of the highest order. And teaching your children not to be friends with people based on their race is the essence of racism.

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  38. Hants November 13, 2017 at 3:33 PM #

    @ David,

    as a self appointed sub editor of BU, I am posting in the Diaspora corner . The PM was shouting at wunna yesterday. lol

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  39. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM #

    Hants,
    True of any racial group. I do agree that black Bajans are as you describe and historically have taken too much from Whites.. However, Jamaicans ie Kingstonians are quite aggressive. Has that aggression produced a better island? Many Bajans of all races have left the island and performed well elsewhere.

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  40. Well Well @ Cut N Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 3:41 PM #

    MoneyB….yall made ya bed centuries ago, now lay in it…quit complaining..

    ..when you sow potatoes, ya reap potatoes…

    when you sow the wind, ya reap the whirlwind…

    just sit back and enjoy the ride…

    bajans need to stop with the pretend niceness…cause they are never nice to each other.

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  41. Sargeant November 13, 2017 at 3:44 PM #

    @MB

    Why NY? Have you looked in your own backyard? I am assuming that you work within the environs of Bay St.

    https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/hadiya-roderique-black-on-bay-street/article36823806/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&

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  42. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 4:06 PM #

    WW–who is yall? Centuries ago is irrelevant!

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  43. Gabriel November 13, 2017 at 4:17 PM #

    Hants
    I heard the man shouting this morning in a news clip on CBC radio.I said this thing called democracy got some explaining to do.It threw up aholes like the physcopath Trump and the clueless,feckless excuse for leadership,Stuart.Meanwhile that lucky old sun,ain’t got nothing to do but roll around heaven all day beginning it’s cycle of ushering in the celestial change starting Thursday 16th,that will see a sunset at 5.28pm one minute earlier than the day before when it will set at 5.29pm and bring on the coming doom that awaits this sickening bunch of neophytes and liars,thieves and bag blinders,barefoot chopshutters,sumsbeeches and hose when the 40% shall arise and gird their loins,don their sword,buckler and shield and rue the that fateful day in February 2013 vowing never again and going forth in unison with the cock that crowed for the Quisling,with a bravery known only to a determined vex sonofabeech and vote DEM wild boys out of the house with a vengeance.

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  44. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 4:21 PM #

    Centuries ago…which also extended to the last 50 years.

    Ya think ya were going to get away with it forever. ..and dont tell me not you, cause ya stayed on the sidelines and applauded the evil done against other people..that makes you just as culpable ah would bet anything ya also gave good advice on how to prolong it.

    But the longest day has an end.

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  45. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 4:22 PM #

    Sarge, Wrong is wrong. I dont condone treating anyone unfairly based on skin.

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  46. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 4:59 PM #

    Say you now…lol

    But people are not prepared to remain silent on the issue of racism and discrimination or who is practicing it anymore…….so yall bust luck, everything is in the open and exposed…and especially exploitation will definitely no longer be tolerated.

    I remember in the early late 90s, every week there was a complaint at HR for me by some white psycho…lol…until HR got fed up of them…

    ….ah was just being my usual charming self, but those inbreds were used to negros they could push around…and I was not the one…it made going to work every day very interesting, nough of them ended up dosing on Xanax and Prozac,,.

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  47. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 5:17 PM #

    WW,
    Bye I am off to slit my wrists because it just dawned on me that I am 30% English and approximately 20% Irish and 20% Welsh and since the English dont like the Welsh or Irish and have treated them very poorly historically and the Irish and Welsh hate the English, then I have only one solution–cut off my legs, arms then slit my throat.

    I do know how the oppressed feel but surely the solution is to live in the present rather than let the past eat you inside out?

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  48. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 5:38 PM #

    MoneyB….what you want from me, they are the ones Barbadosed yall because they were doing their ethnic cleansing routine and thought yall inferior, labeled yall petty thieves and criminals…set up a penal colony in Barbados and deported ya ancestors to serve their prison sentences…..ya want to blame Africa for that too.

    Here is my point…., it does not give you the right as minorities to practice racism, discrimination or exploitation against a majority population in present day Barbados in 2017 either, not 50 years ago….and not today…capeche.

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  49. Hants November 13, 2017 at 6:36 PM #

    @ Sargeant,

    Not just the Law firms on bay Street. Every major profession in Ontario has excluded people

    based on race.

    However things have been changing very very slowly.

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  50. Vincent Haynes November 13, 2017 at 7:16 PM #

    Hmmm……. I wonder how many firms in BIM base employment on the melanin content of the person? We should search them out and tar&feather them……let’s have some names of these apartheid firms in BIM.

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  51. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 7:35 PM #

    If ya real intelligent ya will know in a majority black country…it will not be based on melanin content, but on the most docile blacks who can be manipulated and mantrolled…..the house negro.

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  52. Money Brain, November 13, 2017 at 7:44 PM #

    WW,
    my point is clear, the white people in Bim and elsewhere are not a homogeneous group.

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  53. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service November 13, 2017 at 8:01 PM #

    Who cares MoneyB…they are just people…but they gotta learn to control the stealing, racism and exploitation traits they carry and practice on others…or suffer the consequences, nothing lasts forever.

    There is nothing special about them, contrary to what they think.

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  54. Bush Tea November 13, 2017 at 9:52 PM #

    LOL @ Money B
    ..my point is clear, the white people in Bim and elsewhere are not a homogeneous group.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Your point may be clear, but it is not sharp.

    When wunna enjoying the benefits and privilege …wunna does be homogeneous as shiite though…

    When the old ‘wealth’ wrested through the enforced labour, blood, sweat and tears of captive blacks was being handed down from the wicked generations of your forefathers …you did not complain of lack of homogeneity….

    Boss
    Stand up and tek you licks like a man do!!!

    You know HOW many niggers suffered …even though black people from Africa are not a homogeneous group?
    You know how many poor-ass people in Barbados suffer daily, even though they are not a homogeneous group?
    You know how many DLP politicians will suffer even though they are not ALL homos?

    LOL
    ha ha ha
    wuhloss…

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  55. Bush Tea November 13, 2017 at 9:52 PM #

    Bushie gotta stop reading Lawson though…. 🙂

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  56. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service November 14, 2017 at 6:44 AM #

    An even stronger argument for all forms of racism, discrimination and exploitation of the Black majority population be dismantled from Barbados and the Caribbean forthwith. ..even if criminal laws have to be legislated and enforced.

    This evil act of exploitation of African people should not still be taking place in African countries and certainly it’s more subtle and overt form should not be still allowed to be practiced in Caribbean countries…

    Black governments need to be more vigilant and less careless and corrupt regarding the wefare of their own people. .

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/14/africa/libya-migrant-auctions/index.html

    “Tripoli, Libya (CNN) — “Eight hundred,” says the auctioneer. “900 … 1,000 … 1,100 …” Sold. For 1,200 Libyan dinars — the equivalent of $800.

    Not a used car, a piece of land, or an item of furniture. Not “merchandise” at all, but two human beings.

    One of the unidentified men being sold in the grainy cell phone video obtained by CNN is Nigerian. He appears to be in his twenties and is wearing a pale shirt and sweatpants.
    He has been offered up for sale as one of a group of “big strong boys for farm work,” according to the auctioneer, who remains off camera. Only his hand — resting proprietorially on the man’s shoulder — is visible in the brief clip.

    After seeing footage of this slave auction, CNN worked to verify its authenticity and traveled to Libya to investigate further.”

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  57. Well Well @ Cut N Paste At Your Service November 14, 2017 at 8:43 AM #

    i am shocked…none of BUs resident wannabe colonizers want to take a bite of this…

    it must be too big to swallow..lol

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  58. Money Brain, November 14, 2017 at 9:22 AM #

    Bushie,
    It is a very sharp point, but only for those that are themselves sharp enough to comprehend.

    I have absolutely no intention of tekking licks that I dont deserve, that is reserved for masochistic participants. I aint that kinky!lol

    Poor Bajans suffering is a fact that at this stage in 2017 but it comes down to very poor leadership. Proper leaders show those people how to develop themselves but don’t continuously provide money or freenesses over long periods. That is how politicians “lead” their nations into the ground at high speed. Peter must not pay for Paul relentlessly, Peter should help Paul to develop himself in an efficient, effective manner.

    I know how badly black people were treated and it certainly was revolting. The answer is not a handout though but assistance with personal development.

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  59. millertheanunnaki November 14, 2017 at 9:27 AM #

    @Gabriel November 13, 2017 at 4:17 PM
    “Hants
    I heard the man shouting this morning in a news clip on CBC radio.I said this thing called democracy got some explaining to do.It threw up aholes like the physcopath Trump and the clueless,feckless excuse for leadership,Stuart.Meanwhile that lucky old sun,ain’t got nothing to do but roll around heaven all day beginning it’s cycle of ushering in the celestial change starting Thursday 16th,that will see a sunset at 5.28pm one minute earlier than the day before when it will set at 5.29pm and bring on the coming doom that awaits this sickening bunch of neophytes and liars,thieves and bag blinders,barefoot chopshutters,sumsbeeches and hos….”

    Gabriel, you seem to have acquired (like our Canadian fisherman friend Hants) an exquisite taste in ‘Fine’ music.

    Which version of that popular ‘blues’ song “Lucky Old Sun? Frankie Laine’s or Louis ‘Satchmo’ Armstrong’s or Ray Charles’s?

    Yes, you are right about the coming dusk of disappearance for the current feckless regime of that renamed Deceitful Lying Party which has squandered its 10 years in the Sun given to them by a long-suffering docile electorate.

    Barbados has regressed about 24 years since the current brand of the DLP clock started to tick in January 2008.

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  60. Money Brain, November 14, 2017 at 9:28 AM #

    WW,
    Thanks for providing proof that Africans mistreat other Africans, and proof that Africans have been selling Africans for centuries, even today.

    Thanks for confirming my point that all peoples participated in Slavery intra and inter racially–same for religion and other variables. Very sad news indeed.

    I am awaiting the colonisers too.

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  61. Well Well @ Cut N Paste At Your Service November 14, 2017 at 9:56 AM #

    MoneyB…ya missed the point, CNN went all the way to Libya to expose the exploitation….EXPOSE being the operative word, ya wont have seen that exposure 10 years ago…but it will be a regular occurrence now, even in Africa……

    …..no more justification using Africa as a template or example to continue evil practices againt Blacks MoneyB.

    so in saying that….

    it has not even been 2 years yet that Bjerkham the jerk decided him and his racist sidekick Tempro were going to import cheap labor from St. Vincent…cause they dont want to pay bajans liveable wages and they are racists…the worst kind, i dont know why he is in the people`s central bank.

    …. within weeks it turned into enslavement of these workers, they had to go to the newspapers and EXPOSE JADA, bjerkham and tempro for modern day slavery…..their government in St. Vincent had to help them return home…

    the operative word is EXPOSE enslavers, exploiters and thieves…

    now thank me for that too.

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  62. Well Well @ Cut N Paste At Your Service November 14, 2017 at 10:11 AM #

    you are welcome MoneyB…

    …maybe it`s time for you and the other wannabe colonizers to EXPOSE racists, exploiters and discriminators too…

    make yaselves useful, for once.

    the fantasies some of you have to recreate evil, will never make it to reality….the spiritual forces of KARMA are way too strong, time for yall to fold or suffer the consequences.

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  63. Well Well @ Cut N Paste At Your Service November 14, 2017 at 10:24 AM #

    ….The answer is not a handout though but assistance with personal development…..

    MoneyB…bajans dont need no assistance with development, they need the minority thieves and exploiters out of their treasury and pension fund and to chase the corrupt ministers and politicians out of parliament..

    it is 2017 not 1817….the Black population are over 260, 000 strong and are not helpless…..

    …..their problems are they have been robbed consistently by parasites, corporate welfare rats and bottom feeders in the minority community , like Vincent etc….always seeking handouts by the millions and hundreds of millions of dollars of the people`s money and they are always with begging bowls in hand as though they are entitled to the black populations money…

    that is the problem….nothing else.

    start looking at the issues objectively in modern day terms.

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  64. Well Well @ Cut N Paste At Your Service November 14, 2017 at 10:37 AM #

    the fantasies some of you have to recreate evil, will never make it to reality….the spiritual forces of KARMA are way too strong, time for yall …. SO fold or suffer the consequences.

    this pretense of yours i know the black peeps have been treated badly

    the problems black people on the island have are minority thieves and corrupt government ministers and politicians….

    …..unless all those parasites are gone out of the people`s lives….they will always be exposed….their choice.

    there are no rocks big enough for any of those criminals and pretenders to hide under anymore.

    i would not want to be a thief, exploiter, discriminator, enslaver or racist at this time…all are being exposed…everywhere……

    ….even the sexual predators and pedophiles are now all marked.

    ya got it now, there should be no need for me to repeat this, ah know yall hardheaded though.

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  65. Gabriel November 14, 2017 at 10:20 PM #

    Miller
    Actually I like all 3 versions.Google Stan Getz…Slow boat to China..featuring Eddie Barron,piano,Terry Lyne Carrington drums and Eddie del Barrio,bass.A treat.I think it was recorded in Copenhagen in 1982.

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  66. Money Brain, November 16, 2017 at 9:41 AM #

    WW,
    As I have been forecasting the General in Zimbabwe went to China to seek permission to stage the Coup. Told wunna dont over glorify the Chinese, they are the Nuvo Colonisers!

    Chinese have more than 650 “Projects in Africa” wunna would have to be real stupid if you think they will sit idly by and lose massive $$$$$$$.

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