Ten Fundamental Principles of Reparations

Submitted by DAVID  COMISSIONG, Chairman,Caribbean Pan-African Network (CPAN)

Marcus Garvey

“I, and I know you, too, believe in time, and we shall wait patiently for two hundred years if need be, to face our enemies through our posterity……When I am dead wrap the mantle of the Red, Black and Green around me, for in the new life I shall rise with God’s grace and blessing……. Look for me in the whirlwind or the storm, look for me all around you…… I shall come and bring with me countless millions of black slaves who have died in America and the West Indies and the millions in Africa to aid you in the fight for Liberty, Freedom and Life….. I shall write the history that will inspire the millions that are coming and leave the posterity of our enemies to reckon with the hosts for the deeds of their fathers.”

The Hon. Marcus Garvey, February 10, 1925

The fundamental point that the Honourable Marcus Garvey was making in the passage quoted above is the fundamental message that is encased in the demand for Reparations, and it is that there is and will be no impunity for the commission of any crime against humanity. In other words, whosoever commits a crime against humanity must expect that justice will be demanded of them or their posterity—even if it takes two hundred years! And so it is with the demand for Reparations for the multiplicity of genocides and crimes that have been committed against the sons and daughters of Africa by the nations, governments, and institutions of Europe and North America.

The good news is that the campaign to achieve the payment of Reparations to the nations and people of Africa and the African Diaspora for the atrocities committed against their ancestors and the damage inflicted on their civilization during the centuries of European-imposed slave trade, slavery and colonial domination is well and truly underway!

At an historic 2013 Summit meeting of the Heads of Government of the nations of the Caribbean Community (CARICOM) — Jamaica, Antigua & Barbuda, the Bahamas St. Kitts & Nevis, Barbados, Guyana, Trinidad & Tobago, St. Lucia, St. Vincent & the Grenadines, Haiti, Dominica, Belize, Montserrat, Suriname and Grenada — a decision was taken to collectively pursue a Reparations claim against the national governments of those European nations that actively participated in the genocide that was inflicted on the native or indigenous people of the Caribbean, and in the centuries-long imposition of slavery on the African-descended population of the Caribbean, and to establish a regional governmental “Reparations Commission” to pursue the Claim.

And so, not only do we now have a Caribbean Community (CARICOM) Reparations Commission representing 14 independent national governments and nation-states of the Caribbean, but we have also witnessed the recent establishment of such important Black civil-society institutions as the National African-American Reparations Commission of the United States of America (USA) and the European Commission For Reparations, and we are aware that similar Brazilian and Canadian initiatives are currently in various stages of preparation.

In addition, the government-owned university of the Caribbean– the University of the West Indies (UWI) — has announced that its newly established Reparations Research Institute will be situated at the Mona , Jamaica campus of the University, and will be officially launched in October of this year.

It is anticipated that this new scholarly institution will help us to structure an “outwardly directed” process in which we level demands at the liable Governments and institutions for the compensatory money payments, developmental programmes, transfers of resources, and international and national institutional reforms that all go to make up a package of Reparations “payments”, as well as to pursue an “inwardly directed” struggle that we must engage in ourselves to repair those aspects of the damage that pertain most directly to our minds and psyches.

Furthermore, these important developments are taking place against the background of the commencement, on 1st January 2015, of the United Nations International Decade For People of African Descent– a specially designated ten year period during which the critical issues facing people of African descent are to take centre-stage and to engage the full attention of the international community.

In light of these historic happenings, there can be no better time than now for a concerted effort to be made to construct a truly global Reparations Lobby centred primarily around the African or predominantly African nations, governments and population groups of the continent of Africa, the Caribbean and other regions of the African diaspora, but also extending to important governmental and civil society allies in Latin America, Asia, and Europe .

But, it must be acknowledged that if such a development is to be actualized it will be essential that the African Union (AU) commit itself to partnering with its kith and kin governments in the Caribbean Community (CARICOM) in pursuit of this sacred cause.

And there is a clear historical basis for such a partnership, in that the continent of Africa suffered just as much — if not more– from the ravages of the European-imposed and orchestrated “Slave Trade” than  did the slavery-based, plantation societies of the so-called New World.

Indeed, the famous international multi-disciplinary Pan-African scholar, Dr. Ivan Van Sertima (author of the ground-breaking “They Came Before Columbus”) succinctly described the impact of the European-orchestrated Slave Trade on the African continent as follows:-

No human disaster, with the exception of the Flood (if that biblical legend is true) can equal in dimension of destructiveness the cataclysm that shook Africa. We are all familiar with the slave trade and the traumatic effect of this on the transplanted Black, but few of us realize what horrors were wrought on Africa itself. Vast populations were uprooted and displaced; whole generations disappeared; European diseases descended like the plague, decimating both cattle and people; cities and towns were abandoned; family networks disintegrated; kingdoms crumbled; the threads of cultural and historical continuity were so savagely torn asunder that henceforth one would have to think of two Africas: the one before and the one after the Holocaust.”

(Extract from “Blacks In Science”)

But in addition to the continent’s historical grievance and cause of action, it should be noted that it was actually the continent of Africa that– through the work of the now defunct Organization of African Unity (OAU) — provided the Caribbean region with much of the initial inspiration and impetus on the issue of Reparations.

You see, the people and organizations of the Caribbean really began to reconnect with their historic claim for Reparations when, in the year 1990, word reached the Caribbean about the First International Conference on Reparations that was held in Lagos, Nigeria. This effort was pioneered by the late Chief Moshood Abiola of Nigeria and his Caribbean collaborator, the late Ambassador Dudley Thompson of Jamaica.

This International Reparations conference led to the OAU establishing a Group of Eminent Persons as well as a Commission on Reparations in 1992. And those developments led, in turn, to the staging of the OAU’s First Pan-African Conference On Reparations in Abuja, Nigeria in the year 1993, and to the issuing of the historic “Abuja Declaration” with its demand that the international community recognize that “there is a unique and unprecedented moral debt owed to the African peoples which has yet to be paid”, as well as its clarion CALL to the Heads of States and Governments in Africa and the Diaspora to establish National Reparations Committees to pursue the claim for Reparations in tandem with the OAU.

As we are all aware, in or about the year 1999 the OAU was succeeded by the African Union (AU), and as a result both the Group of Eminent Persons and the Commission on Reparations became defunct.

Fortunately however, the historic developments of 1992 had laid a groundwork that made it possible for the Governments of Africa and the Caribbean to collaborate (even if informally) during the preparatory stages of the 2001 United Nations World Conference Against Racism (UNWCAR) , and to ensure that resolutions acknowledging that the European-orchestrated trans-Atlantic slave trade and chattel slavery were “crimes against humanity”; that Africans and African descendants continued to suffer from the consequences of these crimes up to the present day; and that reparative measures to repair the still existing damage are necessary and justified, were placed on the Agenda of the Conference and ultimately adopted.

What made this successful African/Caribbean collaboration all the more impressive is that it was engaged in against the background of strident demands by the governments of the USA, Canada, and Western Europe that the UNWCAR was not to be concerned at all with issues related to the trans-Atlantic slave trade; to the centuries of European-orchestrated slavery; or to any notion of reparative justice for these historical crimes.https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/RnNZfQn2o2xpggJQqefCOervMbPIci5mujDPJnvl43kv6Rtxjyh5gHN_JKVzeU-aaGz3pePFgxfoAAtZJZNx8mveVTc-11j98EfuAJVcumUenA=s0-d-e1-ft#https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif

However, these arrogant Western “stipulations” all came to naught as a result of the African and Caribbean delegations at the various World Conference preparatory meetings engaging with Latin American and Asian allies to defy the Western powers and to force resolutions pertaining to slavery, trans-Atlantic slave trade and Reparations unto the agenda– resolutions that the Western powers (with the sole exception of the USA, which petulantly walked out of the Conference when it became clear that it would not be getting its way) actually acceded to during the deliberations in Durban , South Africa.

This experience demonstrated conclusively that where nations — even relatively small and supposedly “powerless” nations– pursue a manifestly just and righteous cause with passion and commitment, that they will not only win over the majority opinion of the World community but will also generate a moral force that is irresistible, even for the most intransigent and powerful Governments and nations !

And then, some ten years later, in August 2012, at the AU’s “Global African Summit” in Johannesburg, South Africa, it was resolved by the governmental representatives of Africa and the Caribbean that the AU would seek to collaborate with the governments of the Caribbean Community (CARICOM) in pursuing the quest for Reparations.

It is against this background that we would now like to present a brief but important outline of the Reparations concept in its holistic comprehensiveness by exploring what we have termed the ten fundamental principles of Reparations.

These ten principles are as follows:–

1. VALIDATION OF OUR HUMANITY

The first and most basic principle of the Reparations Movement is that the very demand for Reparations constitutes– in itself– an indispensable validation by African and African-descended people of our own precious humanity!

You see, if we Africans or Afro-descendants fail to demand that the present-day representatives and beneficiaries of those persons, institutions and nations that committed the most horrible crimes imaginable against our ancestors be held accountable and made to pay restitution, we would be implicitly sending a message to ourselves and to the world at large that we do not consider our ancestors (or ourselves) to be sacred beings imbued with inalienable rights and deserving of respect and justice!

And so, the mere act of demanding Reparations is important, and is a critical component of the process, that we must engage in as individuals and as a collective, of repairing ourselves and of reaffirming the value of our civilization and heritage!

But clearly, any such validation of our humanity will have to begin with a knowledge of who we Africans or Afro-descendants were as a people before the criminal European impositions of slavery and colonialism. Thus, the Reparations Movement and the African and Caribbean governments that lead it must make it a priority to promote the study and the dissemination of information about our pre-slavery, pre-colonial African civilization, as well as of the history of European orchestrated enslavement and its effects on the civilization of Africa and on the development of the modern world.

2. COMPLETION OF THE EMANCIPATION PROCESS

Of course, the point must also be made that the racist oppression of black or African people did not end with the formal abolition of slavery! Indeed, after the abolition of slavery in the 19th century our historical oppressors deliberately entrapped our ancestors in economic, political and social arrangements that were designed to handicap them and to serve the interests of the former enslavers– arrangements that have persisted (in modified form) down to the present day.

The struggle for Reparations must therefore be– among other things– a struggle to expose and put an end to such arrangements and to complete the Emancipation process! This is the second fundamental principle of the Reparations Movement.

It goes without saying therefore that the Reparations Movement (and our Governments in particular) must engage in an examination of our post-slavery history (with a view to identifying the many ways in which our historical oppressors unlawfully enmeshed and entrapped post-slavery generations down to the present era) , as well as in an examination of the many examples of resistance to these oppressive stratagems that were engaged in by our fore-fathers and mothers, inclusive of  their many decisive contributions to anti-colonial victories against European colonialism and to the founding of independent African and Caribbean nations .

And having properly informed ourselves we must be prepared to undertake efforts to expose and deprecate such racist present-day arrangements; to advance demands that they be terminated; and to undertake relevant protests and boycotts as well as forms of individual and collective State action to bring about the termination of all such still existing racist arrangements.

3. COMPENSATION MUST BE PROPORTIONATE TO THE CRIME

The demand for compensation from the present-day representatives of those who inflicted horrendous crimes on our ancestors and who damaged and disabled succeeding generations must consist of a demand for the transfer of material resources in an amount proportionate to the enormity of the crimes and their deleterious effects—resources to enable present-day African and African-descendant populations to counter the economic and social imbalances derived from those centuries of criminality.

The Reparations Movement and the African and Caribbean governments that lead the Movement are therefore expected to collectively discuss and work out with civil society and other popular organizations, ideas for appropriate Reparations initiatives, payments and programmes that are capable of achieving such an objective.

4. REPARATIONS MUST PRODUCE THE JUST SOCIETY

The fourth fundamental principle of the Reparations Movement is that the campaign for Reparations or for Reparative Justice must be designed to produce the “just society”, in that the demand for Reparations must be formulated as a demand for a fundamental transformation of the currently existing inequitable and exploitative economic and power relations that exist in the international arena and in many of our domestic societies.

It should be noted that this principle has implications not only for the restructuring of such international entities and phenomena as the United Nations Security Council, the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and the terms of international trade and finance, but also for the manner in which our domestic African and Caribbean societies and Governments function. Implicit in the demand of our Caribbean and African Governments for Reparations must be a commitment to themselves deliver justice to their own people! And this is a commitment that the masses of African and Caribbean people must be prepared – through dynamic activism and advocacy– to hold our Governments to!

And here again, it will be incumbent on the international Reparations Movement and the African and Caribbean governments that lead the Movement to collectively discuss, work out and document ideas for appropriate initiatives, programmes and payments that are imbued with the potential to achieve this very ambitious (but critical) goal of producing the just society—internationally and domestically.

5. AFRICANS MUST EXERCISE AUTONOMY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS

An integral strategy of the Reparations Movement is to present the   demand for the payment of compensation (in financial and material resources as well as in developmental programmes) to the present-day representatives and beneficiaries of the evil system of slave trade and slavery and to invite their collaboration in addressing the tragic effects of this monumental historical crime. This, indeed, has been the approach of the CARICOM governments to date — they have collectively written to the relevant Governments of Western Europe calling upon them to acknowledge the crimes that were committed and the damage that was caused, and requesting them to agree to a collaborative approach to engaging in developmental programmes and transfers of resources designed to repair the still existing damage.

But even while adopting this approach, we Africans and Afro-descendants make it absolutely clear to all and sundry that even though we value the concept of collaboration, that the strategies and tasks to be implemented for our psychological repair and for our economic and social empowerment are our own responsibility and will be conceptualized, directed and controlled by us!

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6. WE MUST REPAIR OURSELVES

A critical component of the campaign for Reparations is the African’s and Afro-descendant’s own inwardly directed struggle for psychological, cultural and spiritual self-repair. Thus, African or Afro-descendant members of the Reparations Movement and their governments must be committed – as individuals and as collectives – to seek to identify all of the ways in which we have been and continue to be negatively affected by false notions of white supremacy and black inferiority, and to rigorously attack them and eradicate the negative effects that impact on our individual and collective psyches!

7. SELF-REPAIR WILL GENERATE MASS SUPPORT FOR REPARATIONS

The effort to “prosecute” and hold accountable the present-day representatives and beneficiaries of the historical oppressors of the African and Afro-descendant people will require the widespread participation of Africans and Afro-descendants: and the attainment of such widespread popular participation will, in turn, be dependent on the inwardly directed struggle for self-repair and its capacity to persuade a critical mass of the African population to re-evaluate themselves and their history; to perceive the gravity of the injustice; to feel the tragic historical loss they have suffered; and to be sufficiently motivated to get involved or otherwise support the campaign for Reparations.

The Reparations Movement and the African and Caribbean governments that lead it must therefore engage in a comprehensive mass education outreach programme to the community that is designed not only to educate about the relevant history, but to also help as many of our people as possible to emotionally connect with that history and the tragic loss and injustice suffered.

8. REPARATIONS MUST BE A BROAD MOVEMENT

The campaign for Reparations must be designed, on the one hand, to bring on board with us all of our natural allies in Africa and the Diaspora, Latin America and Asia and to enlist the tremendous weight of world opinion on our side, and, on the other hand, to isolate and publicly hold up to international embarrassment and critique all those entities that perversely and unreasonably seek to deny and resist the manifest justice and righteousness of our claim to Reparations.

This will call for a concerted effort in the field of international diplomacy by the Ambassadors, Embassies and foreign Missions of the nations of CARICOM and the AU. It will also require consistent effort at the General Assembly of the United Nations, the Organization of American States, the Commonwealth and in other relevant international organizations.

The Reparations Movement should therefore set about to bring allies (in the form of Governments and important civil society organizations) on board by reaching out and educating such entities about the African Reparations cause.

We will surely win the Reparations struggle when, wherever in the world representatives of the legally responsible governments go, other governments and people of goodwill are constantly asking them about their long outstanding moral and legal debt to the people and nations of Africa and the African Diaspora !

Just as virtually the whole world has come to know about the horrors of the Jewish holocaust and to acknowledge and respect the legitimacy and moral rightness of the Jewish demand for Reparations, we too must bring about a similar state of affairs in world public opinion in relation to the African Reparations cause.

9.  THE  MASS OF  OUR  PEOPLE  MUST BE INTIMATELY INVOLVED

The masses of our African and Afro-descendant populations must be intimately involved in the campaign for Reparations: they must be permitted enough time and opportunity to thoroughly discuss and understand the issue; their right to have the final and decisive say on the concrete details of the Reparations claim must be respected; and they must have a say – through representatives specifically selected by them – as to how the compensatory resources are utilized.

Furthermore, at a national level– within our many nation states–the Reparations Movement should systematically appeal to and challenge all of the relevant local and national organizations to put support for Reparations on their agenda and to include it in their programmes and Manifestos – political parties, trade unions, youth organizations, churches, women’s organizations, educational institutions, local government administrations, and the list goes on.

There must also be no compromise on the requirement that the “trustees” of any Reparations Fund that emerges out of the Reparations Campaign must include- along with the elected Governmental leadership– trusted representatives of the people directly selected by the people themselves for the special purpose of overseeing the expenditure of Reparations resources.

10. NETWORK AND ESTABLISH A NEW INTERNATIONAL LEGAL STRUCTURE

The successful pursuit of Reparations will require the establishment of a world-wide network of community, regional, national and international organizations. Indeed, at the grassroots level, the community based Reparations organization must be linked into a national network, while at the level of our African and Caribbean governments we should establish a trans-Atlantic international network that is preparing and engaging in legal, diplomatic and political strategies at the international level to achieve Reparations.

The African and African-descendants Reparations Claim (s) will either be consensually negotiated between mutually respectful State parties gathered around an international negotiating table, or it will have to be litigated in a series of international law cases brought against the Governments of the liable nations.

And since the Reparations claim that is being advanced on behalf of the sons and daughters of Africa and the Diaspora is of a magnitude and complexity hitherto unknown to the currently existing international court system, it may in all likelihood require the setting up of a special new International Tribunal specifically designed by the member states of the General Assembly of the United Nations to deal with and do justice to a claim of this historical importance and magnitude.

The time has come for the African and African descendant people of the world and their Governments to finally present their Reparations Bill to the current day successor Governments of those national Governments of Europe and North America that organized, facilitated, legitimized, financed, and benefited from the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and the associated system of racialized Chattel Slavery — the governments of Britain, Spain, France, Portugal, Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Norway, and the United States of America (a former colony that perpetuated the enslavement of African people for nearly one hundred years after attaining its independence).

Onwards to the achievement of Reparations in this United Nations International Decade For People of African Descent!

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75 Comments on “Ten Fundamental Principles of Reparations”

  1. 45govt September 4, 2017 at 2:04 AM #

    Taxpayers actually pay this racist moron Commissiong to indulge himself in this cretinous waste of time? Clearly the Caribbean already has a surplus of funds to waste.

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  2. Bajan Free Party/CUP-PCP.Violet Beckles Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZI September 4, 2017 at 3:44 AM #

    You cant even free your self from the DBLP and you looking for solve this? Please still slaves , Taking to long to much time, 120,000 to be pay, write the checks and pay the people the slave wages of 4.5 cents an hour, Takes as long as court cases in Barbados , for the same fools in charge and here comes more VAT and TAXES , much more pain and death on its way,

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  3. David September 4, 2017 at 5:33 AM #

    Is Comissiong on the sub committee of Caricom mandated to negotiate the matter of reparations? Why not attack what is written. You write about taxpayers money, note taxpayers money is paying Hal Gollop to represent the PM in a case before the court although there is a group of legal minds employed by the Attorney General’s office to do so.

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  4. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 4, 2017 at 6:28 AM #

    Taxpayers and pensioners money also feed and fund the begging bowl carrying minority nuisances and parasites like 45fraudster on the island, they are always approaching stupid governmemt ministers with begging bowls in hand for sugar subsidues, contracts or with some ready made scam to build inferior quality houses and building……while soaking the taxpayers for hundreds of millions of dollars.

    ….they always have some ruse and excuse to steal money from the treasury and pension fund, that belongs to the majority population….ask Vincent…who will slither out to give one million reasons why descendants of slaves should not be paid reparations in whatever form, but without taking a breath will give another 10 reasons why minorities should break out their begging bowls to receive free money that belongs to the same descendents of slaves…this has to end..

    They can’t even say they dont do, it is well documented. Destroy their still existing slavery enclave and expose them for the world to see, then and only then will Barbados and other islands be able to move forward and break away from this still existing slave society with a tiny minority of 7,500 descendants of indentured servants still trying to maintain their grip of control and greed, expose the black governments also, if they try to resist this major change to dismantle the slave society.

    …”to isolate and publicly hold up to international embarrassment and critique all those entities that perversely and unreasonably seek to deny and resist the manifest justice and righteousness of our claim to Reparations.”

    Seeing that racists, white supremacists and neo nazis are being hunted down and chased out of societies worldwide, like the animals that they are, this is the perfect time to expose all that is wrong in the Caribbean, in Barbados particularly and put pressure on all the bodies regionally and internationally who are responsible for making policies to effect greater changes in the society destroyed which is still being practiced by still existing, very greedy racists…name and shame them, give their names to the bodies, so they will be on a well documented list.

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  5. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 4, 2017 at 6:44 AM #

    Hopefully Comissiong can recognize that it is the Black governments who enable and maintain a slave society, the practice of racism and thefts of money on the Black majority on the island by a tiny minority.

    …. they enable, orchestrate and condone the wastage of taxpayer’s and pensioners money for themselves and minorities..

    ….. they enable and condone and have for the last 50 years the disenfranchisement of the majority to enrich a tiny minority…

    As important as reparations are for 400 year old crimes…the dismantling of the still existing evil and crimes against the living descendants of slaves with governments in collusion with minorities to prolong the practices, must be urgently addressed and is much more important at this stage….

    ,…… the worldwide environment and moods are perfect to address these injustices perpetrated by black governments on the island…against the majority population who elect them.

    They are tantamount to crimes against the people, the continuing practices of these governments.

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  6. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 4, 2017 at 6:47 AM #

    in Barbados particularly and put pressure on all the bodies regionally and internationally who are responsible for making policies to effect greater changes in the society AND destroy all crimes which ipare still being practiced by still existing, very greedy racists…name and shame them, give their names to these INTERNATIONAL bodies, so they will be on a well documented list.

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  7. Tron September 4, 2017 at 8:17 AM #

    We all know what would happen with paid reparations:

    Bureaucrats like the Commissioner, ministers, judges, pastors and rich businessmen would end up with all the money, buying condos in Canada and Florida, big Mercedes and so on. When all the money is gone, they would blame the former slaveholders for their mismanagement.

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  8. David September 4, 2017 at 8:27 AM #

    The behaviour you cited does NOT preclude exacting reparations or even to have the conversation.

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  9. lawson September 4, 2017 at 8:31 AM #

    Just like the canadian indians in their claims , tribal lands in africa should be given to the people

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  10. Pachamama September 4, 2017 at 8:31 AM #

    David Comissiong

    The primary list of perpetrators must also include other groups. Not just current nation states, former nation states as well.

    The A-rabs who started this epoch.

    The Jews who run and financed the system, Israel. Columbus himself was a jew.

    The Catholic and Anglican churches – who gave god’s blessings to these crimes.

    Are you, Comissiong, overlooking these criminal institutions because of your personal connections.

    The banking industry, whose current fortunes were built on these crimes – human trafficking, etc

    The global elites whose fortunes and networks are located therein.

    The murderous, blood-drenched, British monarchy. Other monarchies.

    Afrikan countries, current areas, which played a role.

    Finally we must bring a law suit against the christian, jewish and islamic gods, themselves, for failing to kill all the White people and their religious comrades on earth. Make these religions proscribed. LOL

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  11. Tron September 4, 2017 at 8:32 AM #

    Of course, not.

    The case for reparation could have succeeded in the 19th century. There is no legal claim anymore in the early 21st century, but a moral appeal. The law of restitution does not cover claims for crimes committed 200 years ago.

    Instead pushing reparations, Barbados should seek debt forgiveness, arguing on a moral ground, pointing to the British crimes in the past.

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  12. Pachamama September 4, 2017 at 8:37 AM #

    And yes, the capitalist infrastructure which chattel slavery built

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  13. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 4, 2017 at 8:51 AM #

    Lawson….wrap this around your head, indian lands in Canada and US rightfully belongs to the indigenous natives of both countries, likewise ,tribal lands in Africa belongs to Africans..

    Ah guess yall will have to go back to ya caves in the Caucus mountains, where ya can act out ya savagery on each other as ya like…lol

    Yall are guests in North America and Africa, but dont want to act like it.

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  14. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 4, 2017 at 8:59 AM #

    “Instead pushing reparations, Barbados should seek debt forgiveness, arguing on a moral ground, pointing to the British crimes in the past.”

    I have said that repeadedly on here….debt forgiveness for at least 400 years, highlighting past, present and future crimes against the Black race by descendants of slave masters is much more realistic.

    …….means they cant come back later and use a scam claiming the descendants of slavery owes Europe or North America billions for attaining debt independence. …..

    …..they are wicked and would do anything to maintain a stranglehold on disenfranchising the black race…….create any scheme or scam….to keep it going indefinitely. …Haiti and what France did to them re an independence debt worth billions and lasting 100 years….scam of the 19th century….comes to mind.

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  15. Chad99999 September 4, 2017 at 9:28 AM #

    David

    Since you often condemn Donald Trump as a racist xenophobe, and encourage others to do so, there is shocking irony in your veneration of “The Honourable Marcus Garvey,” an unapologetic segregationist who publicly praised Adolf Hitler, compared his own Negro Improvement movement to the Ku Klux Klan, and insisted that Europe should be for the Europeans and Africa for the Africans.

    The Reparations movement is yet another attempt by Caribbean leaders to refresh and re-package the arguments for foreign aid, now that most CARICOM states are middle-income societies too prosperous to qualify for the majority of EU and North American government assistance programs.

    You should stick to the Climate Change strategy for extracting money from OECD countries. It is more effective, because it stirs fewer racial resentments on all sides.

    Slavery, rejection of homosexuality, rejection of atheism, etc. were “normal” practices three hundred years ago but are reviled today as evil or ignorant. Times change. You cannot usefully apply the moral judgments of one historical period to those of another.

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  16. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 4, 2017 at 10:00 AM #

    The trumptard is in the house…

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  17. Pachamama September 4, 2017 at 10:08 AM #

    Well Well

    Chad is talking about matters not known.

    Anyhow your proposal about debt forgiveness must be first understood as to what it would really mean.

    Even if it were to happen the underlying capitalist structures will see Caribbean and other countries back in debt slavery within a few decades. You are really talking about the elimination of accounts of useless ‘paper money’.

    That we’re afraid is no cure.

    ON Chad’s comments

    We fail to see how MMG could be termed a segregationist for rightly arguing that Africa was for African peoples. And doing so in circumstances where we were subjected to slavery, colonialism and the likes, as White ruling systems.

    More troubling is that a man who sought to save and re-build Africans, the world over, could be likened to a peon like a Donald Trump. Trump the overt racist he has always been and as American as apple pie.

    What people like Chad are really seeking to do is to normalize White crimes. They also talk about misnomers like ‘reverse racism’. Racism is a system created by White people. Since then Africans have never had the power anywhere on earth to engage in this misnomer he would call ‘reverse racism’.

    This projection of White crimes on African peoples have certain limits. But to attempt to equalize White crimes is in itself racist, Chad is therefore a racist.

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  18. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 4, 2017 at 10:19 AM #

    We know ChadsterthetrumptardPhDPimp is indeed racis..s…his arguments never hold water in his cloudy trumptard explanations covered and cloaked in daddy issues.

    “Even if it were to happen the underlying capitalist structures will see Caribbean and other countries back in debt slavery within a few decades.”

    Pacha….that can only happen if black leaders remain in their existing state of self induced mental enslavement, remain mentally weak to euro influences, continue to sell out their people….and upon freeeness from debt….refuse to immediately change the existing euro themed system to one that completely benefits the majority black populations.

    Ah now it’s asking a lot for any of them to understand this let alone bringing about the radical and revolutionary changes to match ……..but we can hope.

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  19. Chad99999 September 4, 2017 at 10:24 AM #

    Pachamama

    is dishonest in debate and a purveyor of the non sequitur.

    MG didn’t just say ‘Africa for the Africans’. He linked that statement to another, ‘Europe for the Europeans’ because he was a strict segregationist. To disconnect the two statements is to commit an obvious form of intellectual fraud.

    The incessant repitition of the claim that slavery is a white crime does not make it so. Any coercive relationship can be imagined and represented as a crime. Military conscription is a crime. Compulsory service in a national youth or welfare organization is a crime. Income tax penalties are crimes of the state , etc. Where does this stop?

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  20. Gabriel September 4, 2017 at 10:32 AM #

    How in the name of fairness can any reasonable person disagree with the principle of reparations for the benefit of descendants of enslaved Africans.In the foregoing preamble money is not the only remedy sought there is the demand for development programmes,transfers of resources and for international and national institutional reforms. Insipid comments from fools on this thread seem to suggest that this movement will go away.It will not.All you fuvkrs who benefitted and continue to benefit from free labour,developing your ‘civilised’ societies on the backs of poor dispossessed black people will have no choice.George Lamming in his Carifesta adddress in 81 spoke of ….” those who tremble,when they hear the word black”…….be warned,this movement is not going away and this idle talk of blacks spending on consumer durables,well maybe that is your stereotypical outlook on life which many do not share and consider insulting to the informed mind.Thrash will be thrash whether white or otherwise.

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  21. Pachamama September 4, 2017 at 10:41 AM #

    Chad

    MMG could have argued that the whole world belongs to Afrikan peoples, but he did not.

    MMG argued that Europe was for Europeans only in the circumstances we earlier described.

    What other humiliation would you have required of him. To pretend that there are/were some common human family, and that people could live where ever they wanted, even when your ilk were hanging Black people daily, as social events, for entertainment.

    How do you, in your ‘lack of lies’ account for the fact that Africa is the richest continent yet African peoples are the poorest in every world country.

    These must be accidents of history, in your warped mind.

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  22. Chad99999 September 4, 2017 at 10:42 AM #

    Like many foolish black people, Gabriel

    does not understand that begging other people to give you their money is counterproductive.

    The Germans and the Japanese rebuilt their countries without seeking handouts. In working for themselves they built new technologicsl capacity.

    The black man is unfortunately so incompetent that even when handed the keys to the money vaults of white oppressors, he is too stupid to hang on to his inheritance. Look at South Africa, Zimbabwe and Namibia. Then he starts blaming others for his own failures.

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  23. Chad99999 September 4, 2017 at 10:51 AM #

    Pacha

    is utterly misinformed.

    Africa is the poorest continent because Africans have failed to match the technological accomplishments of other races, and may be unable to do so. White oppression merely aggravates a problem that would exist anyway.

    PS. Sorry to have to say this, but your understanding of basic economics is not what it should be. Africa is not the richest continent by any stretch of the imagination. It lacks the rich energy resources of Europe, the Americas, the Middle East and Asia.

    It is ENERGY (coal, oil) that transforms societies by shifting the burden of work to efficient machines.

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  24. Pachamama September 4, 2017 at 10:52 AM #

    Chad

    There is no difference between you and Hal Austin

    Both Germany and Japan were rebuilt by American capital. How could any sentient person not know this, maybe you are not.

    Only ignorant White people, or their lovers, could be so naive.

    We will end this dialogue because you are unworthy.

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  25. Bush Tea September 4, 2017 at 10:56 AM #

    @ Pachamama September 4, 2017 at 8:31 AM #

    Extremely well said.

    Obviously there is a case for serious reparations to be made … by many different peoples, for many different reasons….

    AND IT WILL BE MADE..!!
    Rest assured…. and it will be DREAD!!

    However, this PARTICULAR court case is above our collective pay grades. THIS particular case has ALREADY been referred to the HIGHEST possible court, and sentencing is imminent.

    It is NOT for compromised brass bowls, who themselves are guilty of the VERY SAME crimes that they would want to prosecute – when they enforce THEIR OWN pound of flesh against an unfortunate neighbour, a casual stranger, a workmate, or even a sworn enemy.

    This case CANNOT be prosecuted by the likes of Sir Cave…. or Come-and-sing-a-song, ….or WW&C … or stinking Bushie….

    IT IS TOO BIG for brass bowls!!!

    But…. take a good look and those with ‘eyes to see’, will see that the verdict is imminent and the judgement will be swift….

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  26. Chad99999 September 4, 2017 at 11:28 AM #

    Pacha is a second-rate ideologue. Narrowly educated. Arrogant and obnoxious when confronted with his own appalling knowledge gaps.

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  27. TheGazer September 4, 2017 at 11:38 AM #

    Amused by the racist Chads who haunts the corridors of BU.
    They should be ashamed of the drivel they post.

    Hal should stick to the unmasking of anonymice

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  28. Chad99999 September 4, 2017 at 11:44 AM #

    Gazer
    Listen up, you little punk, there is nothing that does more harm to black people than failing to be clear-eyed about (and take account of) our obvious shortcomings.

    Only dunces like you attribute our failures to “white racism”.

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  29. TheGazer September 4, 2017 at 12:08 PM #

    🙂 .. you scared me
    Seems as if you pull on your black coat to dodge the racist charge. But black or white one of your post was the height of being racist
    Self-hating may be more appropriate

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  30. Chad99999 September 4, 2017 at 12:14 PM #

    Call me racist as often as you like.

    There is nothing more contemptible than people who are weak and stupid and can’t face the facts.

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  31. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 4, 2017 at 12:28 PM #

    Bushman…and that is what is killing the Chads, Vincents and Johns,., they can’t stop the inevitable.

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  32. David September 4, 2017 at 12:56 PM #

    @chad99999

    Another failed attempt to play the role of provocateur. By their fruit we shall judge.

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  33. Pachamama September 4, 2017 at 2:05 PM #

    Bushie

    We agree.

    Wolin called our current system ‘inverted totalitarianism’.

    A system where the corporate elites control the system, economy trumps politics.

    He however agreed that when consumer access to debt and cheap goods are removed from this equation we could revert to a classical form of fascism, totalitarianism.

    The militarists in the Trump administration give a hint at this.

    In neither case would any attempt be made at reparations, except as a veiled attempt to achieve other objectives.

    But a radical divine judgement is currently bringing them to heel.

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  34. David September 4, 2017 at 5:43 PM #

    Who is it that said “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.”?

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  35. Pachamama September 4, 2017 at 6:15 PM #

    David

    Churchill?

    That saying had some meaning during the Soviet Empire, WW2.

    Events have since overtaken that internal logic.

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  36. David September 4, 2017 at 6:34 PM #

    @Pacha

    How many times have you posted in this forum words to the effect our governance structures in the oldest democracies are in shambles?

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  37. 555dubstreet September 4, 2017 at 6:48 PM #

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  38. Sargeant September 4, 2017 at 9:01 PM #

    How can “Africa” be rich when in the last 100 years every African country was “ruled” or controlled by a European country? Why were the Europeans there?

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  39. David Comissiong September 4, 2017 at 11:23 PM #

    VALIDATION OF OUR HUMANITY

    The first and most basic principle of the Reparations Movement is that the very demand for Reparations constitutes– in itself– an indispensable validation by African and African-descended people of our own precious humanity!

    You see, if we Africans or Afro-descendants fail to demand that the present-day representatives and beneficiaries of those persons, institutions and nations that committed the most horrible crimes imaginable against our ancestors be held accountable and made to pay restitution, we would be implicitly sending a message to ourselves and to the world at large that we do not consider our ancestors (or ourselves) to be sacred beings imbued with inalienable rights and deserving of respect and justice!

    And so, the mere act of demanding Reparations is important, and is a critical component of the process, that we must engage in as individuals and as a collective, of repairing ourselves and of reaffirming the value of our civilization and heritage!

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  40. David Comissiong September 4, 2017 at 11:28 PM #

    “The fundamental message that is encased in the demand for Reparations, and it is that there is and will be no IMPUNITY for the commission of any crime against humanity. In other words, whosoever commits a crime against humanity must expect that justice will be demanded of them or their posterity—even if it takes two hundred years!

    And so it is with the demand for Reparations for the multiplicity of genocides and crimes that have been committed against the sons and daughters of Africa by the nations, governments, and institutions of Europe and North America.”

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  41. John September 4, 2017 at 11:36 PM #

    Historical facts!!!!!!

    This whole charade falls to pieces if examined in the light of historical facts.

    It is the European experience that brought freedom from slavery.

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  42. David September 5, 2017 at 12:04 AM #

    Even if one were to proceed on that basis how does it erase the roles of the slave master and the slave?

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  43. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 5, 2017 at 3:24 AM #

    “And so it is with the demand for Reparations for the multiplicity of genocides and crimes that have been committed against the sons and daughters of Africa by the nations, governments, and institutions of Europe and North America.”

    Precautions must also be included for present and future crimes against the Black race perpetrated by Europeans, don’t for one moment believe they are done yet, they will always seek out the weakest black leaders, the most blind to reality, to engage with and influence…..against their own people.

    John as usual is being deceitful…the european experience will always be one of slavery….europe and their descendantsvwill always believe they need to enslave or disenfranchise someone for their own survival and for self enrichment purposes…..they have always been outright goddamn thieves, particularly of other people’s labor.

    First and foremost the Johns of Barbados need to be cut completely off and stopped from feeding off the descendants of Black slaves for their current survival ….those parasites need to find another source of survival to enrich the majority instead of enriching themselves at the expense of the majority population while acting like they are doing the people some kinda favor…….a lie, fantasy and fallacy that the Johns and Vincents insist on projecting.

    …..pressure has to be brought to bear on black ministers and leaders in the country who enable these crimes against the people, for their own financial gain.

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  44. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 5, 2017 at 3:26 AM #

    .pressure has to be brought to bear on black ministers and leaders in the country who enable these crimes against the people, for their own financial gain….TO CEASE AND DESIST.

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  45. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 5, 2017 at 4:09 AM #

    And this was just for a few years pf war and brutal pre war atrocities……so just imagine 400 years and counting of crimes committed against an entire Black race..by Europe and North America.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-should-pay-poland-1-trillion-reparations-world-war-ii-government-a7929561.html

    “Germany must pay Poland up to $1 trillion in reparations, minister says

    The figure could be even higher, according to the Polish foreign minister

    Rachael Revesz @RachaelRevesz 9 hours ago160 comments

    The Independent Online
    poland-minister.jpg
    Ministers accuse Germany of ‘shirking’ its moral responsibility AP
    Germany should consider paying Poland as much as $1 trillion in World War II reparations, according to the Polish foreign minister.

    Poland’s foreign minister Witold Waszczykowski told local radio station RMF that “serious talks” were needed with Germany to “find a way to deal with the fact that German-Polish relations are overshadowed by the German aggression of 1939 and unresolved post-war issues.”

    He said Poland’s material losses were about $1 trillion, or higher.”

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  46. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 5, 2017 at 4:31 AM #

    This is what happens when parasitic black leaders are so weak, they help minorities with the practice of economic apartheid against the majority, their own people….glaring inequalities, after that nasty fprm of apartheid that spread wiporldwide and was toxic…while very difficult to get rid of.

    …..black men and women should be ashamed of selling out their own people to greedy minority racists, it should be legislated a vicious crime punishable by decades of imprisonment….for all black ministers, presidents and politicians worldwide, hopefully South Africa will set a world precedent in that regard by dealing with the corrupt Zuma..

    Jacob Zuma of South Africa reminds me pf the treacherous slaves in Barbados’ parliament. South Africans want him gone for selling them out to the minority Dutch Boer greedy, racist pigs.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/bell-pottinger-pr-trade-body-south-africa-campaign-racism-fuel-prca-a7929346.html

    “South Africa, which is the continent’s most industrialised economy, abolished apartheid more than two decades ago, but many living there are still frustrated by lasting inequality.

    Black people make up about 80 per cent of the 54 million-strong population, but a lot of the land and a large proportion of businesses remain in the hands of white people, who account for around 8 per cent of the population.”

    “One of London’s best-known public relations firms has been stripped of its membership of the industry’s trade association after being accused of stirring up racial tensions in South Africa.

    ….”An email published in South African media earlier this year claimed to show that Bell Pottinger said the campaign needed to stress the continued “existence of economic apartheid”.

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  47. 555dubstreet September 5, 2017 at 6:14 AM #

    David Comissiong
    “VALIDATION OF OUR HUMANITY”

    =

    Validation of Black/African humanity is not necessary it is a given,
    but validation of European humanity is very much in question.

    European race is still racist by justifying their crimes of slavery and racism.

    Marcus Garvey’s teachings led the way and King Haile Selassie showed Jamaicans and other Blacks to reject Eurocentrism and look towards Africa when they were oppressed and depressed.

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  48. David Comissiong September 5, 2017 at 6:41 AM #

    COMPLETION OF THE EMANCIPATION PROCESS

    Of course, the point must also be made that the racist oppression of black or African people did not end with the formal abolition of slavery! Indeed, after the abolition of slavery in the 19th century our historical oppressors deliberately entrapped our ancestors in economic, political and social arrangements that were designed to handicap them and to serve the interests of the former enslavers– arrangements that have persisted (in modified form) down to the present day.

    The struggle for Reparations must therefore be– among other things– a struggle to expose and put an end to such arrangements and to complete the Emancipation process! This is the second fundamental principle of the Reparations Movement.

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  49. David Comissiong September 5, 2017 at 6:45 AM #

    REPARATIONS MUST PRODUCE THE JUST SOCIETY

    The fourth fundamental principle of the Reparations Movement is that the campaign for Reparations or for Reparative Justice must be designed to produce the “just society”, in that the demand for Reparations must be formulated as a demand for a fundamental transformation of the currently existing inequitable and exploitative economic and power relations that exist in the international arena and in many of our domestic societies.

    It should be noted that this principle has implications not only for the restructuring of such international entities and phenomena as the United Nations Security Council, the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and the terms of international trade and finance, but also for the manner in which our domestic African and Caribbean societies and Governments function.

    Implicit in the demand of our Caribbean and African Governments for Reparations must be a commitment to themselves deliver justice to their own people! And this is a commitment that the masses of African and Caribbean people must be prepared – through dynamic activism and advocacy– to hold our Governments to!

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  50. David September 5, 2017 at 6:45 AM #

    The Apprenticeship period was perhaps as bad when the bondage of Blacks shifted from the physical to moulding the mental. It was the period when the establishment exploited for maximum economic gain.

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  51. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 5, 2017 at 6:54 AM #

    “a struggle to expose and put an end to such arrangements and to complete the Emancipation process!…..”

    And put an end to all future scheme designed to perpetrate same to future generations of the Black race….befire they begin.

    European Racists tend to plan centuries into the future……..a failing of Black people.,,,,,.the current lot from europe and North America are not as skilled as their ancestors were in these skill, but nevertheless still have the resources to perpetrate criminal mass genocides and slavery schemes against the world’s most vulnerable using weak black leaders…..of which there are many at their disposals, these creeps adre limitless.

    Unless the weakest of black leaders are sentenced to long prison stretches for selling out their people to the highest bidder, unless it’s made a punishable criminal offense.., the practice will continue, it’s the curse of black leaders.

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  52. David Comissiong September 5, 2017 at 7:04 AM #

    Contrary to what many uninformed people think, Reparations is not a cause indulged in by naïve Black people who are wishing for a “pot of gold” at the end of a proverbial rainbow. Rather , it is a dynamic concept that has answers to many of the critical problems that confront us today and that are rooted in our history of slavery and racist oppression. I only wish that persons who are not truly informed about the issue would take the time to read my article .

    DAVID COMISSIONG

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  53. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM #

    Those are not uninformed people, those are greedy racists who want to continue the evil practice of being parasitesand welfare rats for their own survival and continuing the nasty, racist practice of their descendants being parasites and welfare rats on the backs of the black majority for generations to come, not unlike what obtains in Barbados..,,,

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  54. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 5, 2017 at 7:14 AM #

    It has nothing to do with being uninformed, racist parasites are the least uninformed people I know.

    It has everything to do with living freely off the existence of those Blacks too uninformed to recognize it…..lol

    That free living for racists and their descendants must be dismantled.

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  55. David Comissiong September 5, 2017 at 7:30 AM #

    Well, that’s part of the Reparations campaign as well !!

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  56. Bush Tea September 5, 2017 at 7:33 AM #

    @ David C
    You are mixing your metaphors.
    The need for Black people to come to a true understanding of their own intrinsic value is in no way tied to reparations …. or indeed to ANY kind of recognition from white people.
    This is a completely DIFFERENT issue – and is indeed one that merits 100% of our collective intellectual and physical efforts.

    If some low-life animal is given the opportunity to overwhelm and subjugate a man for a long period of time, that man does NOT resolve his self-esteem issues by seeking recompense and repentance from that low-life animal.
    He need to go back BEYOND that … and come to understand HOW and WHY it came about in the first place…. that a low life creature could find itself in CONTROL of a true human being.

    What the hell can it mean to Blacks that White people now acknowledge that they were wrong; say sorry; and print off a few billion of their shiite dollars and give us to indulge in their albino-centric game of life?

    What is needed is REAL EDUCATION.
    People like you and Sir Cave started the process …. but then got distracted with the white people’s materialistic distractions.
    He at the Mutual /Sagicor, …and you with your socialism / reparations distractions.

    Black people ARE the people CREATED BY GOD …. in HIS own image.
    Black people represent the image (and the character) of the humans that were DESIGNED to advance society into a utopia of development and success…

    …all the others are derivatives resulting from genetic malfunctions… Those white people were just INSTRUMENTS that were used to punish the ongoing FOOLISHNESS of Blacks.

    Reparations shiite!!!

    If God’s people shall humble themselves, and pray, seek God’s face, and repent from their adopted albino-centric ways, and seek their TRUE destiny. THEIR God will hear …..AND WILL HEAL THEIR LAND.

    ….Stop looking to trash for salvation…??!!??

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  57. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 5, 2017 at 7:47 AM #

    European Racists tend to plan centuries into the future……..a failing of Black people.

    Black people must acquire the skill set of thinking 6 or 700 years into the future and not only think for the moment, it is countrproductive to their continued survival despite the existence of racist parasites, they lost that power, it must be regained.

    John…I will systematically punish you for your wicked deceit and lies.

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  58. Bush Tea September 5, 2017 at 7:57 AM #

    @ John
    It takes a SPECIAL kind of mentality to have been able to mistreat human beings, based only on colour (WHO NEVER DID YOU ANY HARM) for four straight centuries.
    Bushie never understood how white people were able to be so cruel and mean for so long…

    Thanks to you, this has now become crystal clear on this BU forum.

    Your willingness to persist with this shiite argument that white people ended slavery – and deserves praise and respect for so doing FULLY explains the kind of sick thinking that maintained slavery for so long…

    So if Bushie should arrange for some of his angels to detain your red donkey and torment you for a few hundred years… then to release you after he tires of the fun – and after it becomes too costly …. we can take it that YOU will be full of praise for the Bushman as a great liberator….?!?!

    Idiot!!

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  59. David Comissiong September 5, 2017 at 8:19 AM #

    I did not mention anything about seeking repentance or recognition from white people ! The point is that if black people are aware that the most horrible crimes imaginable were committed against their ancestors, but then they refuse to raise their voices and demand justice and retribution, it means that they have a very low assessment of their ancestors — and by extension– of themselves. I am interested in seeking justice, and by doing so I demonstrate that I appreciate that my ancestors were sacred beings imbued with inalienable rights.

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  60. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 5, 2017 at 8:22 AM #

    Lol….John’s method is a bid to retain and mainstain the couple thousand red/white parasites sucking on the blood of the majority black population on the island for another two generations or more, but we will rip them off this generation, not the next.

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  61. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 5, 2017 at 9:44 AM #

    Solid reality.

    “Prayers will not stop poverty in Black communities and Nations.

    Prayers will not stop police from killing us..

    Prayers will not stop Racism..

    We must unite and enhance our power.”

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  62. millertheanunnaki September 5, 2017 at 10:05 AM #

    @ Bush Tea September 5, 2017 at 7:33 AM
    “Black people ARE the people CREATED BY GOD …. in HIS own image.
    Black people represent the image (and the character) of the humans that were DESIGNED to advance society into a utopia of development and success…”

    I am so glad to see that you have put away your childlike view of God and have looked behind the fairytale contained in the Judeo-Christian book of Genesis as rewritten by the same albino-centric Jewish inspired writers of plagiarized mythology.

    Whether this burst of enlightenment was purposely arranged like in the Damascene allegory or accidentally brought about by a Bajan bodhi tree falling on you after a strike of lightning, we are equally happy you have left your cavern of BBE darkness and have come into the Light of wisdom.

    So here is the deal, Bushie, that your black brothers and sisters have to seal with the God who made them in its own image and endowed them with the skin type and phenotype to absorb those rays of power from above.

    In order for blacks to be truly liberated both materially and psychologically they must first pay reparations to God by giving up their brainwashing belief and acceptance in the white-man created gods called Yahweh or Jehovah or Jesus.

    You in your own naïve way have put a different twist to this sine qua non for black salvation and liberation by your ‘plagiaristic’ quotation from the same albino-centric book of indoctrination without fully understanding ‘what’ the god in reference really is:
    “If God’s people shall humble themselves, and pray, seek God’s face, and repent from their adopted albino-centric ways, and seek their TRUE destiny. THEIR God will hear …..AND WILL HEAL THEIR LAND.”

    What you need to do also is to try to understand whose face could shine on the same foolish black people to give them ‘solace’ and salvation from other people’s gods and religions, especially the albino-created blue-eyed beardy god called Jesus:
    Just look up today and you might just experience an epiphany of which ‘Solomon’ would be envious:
    “The LORD bless you and keep you;
    the LORD make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you;
    the LORD lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace.”

    The God for blacks is not your albino-created beardy BBE living in heaven and pathologically prone to making serious mistakes (ask Pachamama about the location of sex organs and the anus) but the power of Light around which your little orb of rock and water revolves and on which it depends totally for its very puny existence.

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  63. Bush Tea September 5, 2017 at 11:29 AM #

    @ Miller
    Get a life…
    You just have NO IDEA of Bushie’s understanding of God…. (Bushie adoptive-dad)
    You therefore judge every word from the Bushman against YOUR albino-centric view of God and religion…. YOUR bad!!!

    @ David C
    I am interested in seeking justice, and by doing so I demonstrate that I appreciate that my ancestors were sacred beings imbued with inalienable rights.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Yours is an admirable objective….but naive.

    It is flawed, in that neither YOU … or anyone that you know, has any right … or AUTHORITY, to seek ‘justice’ in as high a court as the one in which this matter needs to be adjudicated.

    You simply are NOT QUALIFIED to adjudicate at this level.

    How do you know, for example, that the treatment meted out to Blacks was not JUST FAIR RECOMPENSE for some lotta shiite that THEY did previously, to justify it….?

    Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written , “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.

    Your commission is to educate yourself and others about their RIGHTFUL heritage and of their glorious potentialities….The business of justice, recompense, revenge and guilt should be left to competent authorities to be resolved.
    Our world is configured around a SPIRITUAL foundation. most of the REALLY crucial issues in this world are spiritual in nature….and…
    Mortal minds are INCAPABLE of dispensing ‘justice’ in matters of spiritual import….

    Shiite man … wunna fellows are not even able to deliver ‘justice’ in the multiple minor mortal matters in this land of BBBBBs…. far less in global matters of SPIRITUAL import….

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  64. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 5, 2017 at 2:54 PM #

    “Black racism is a myth created by whites to ease their guilt feelings. As long as whites can be assured that blacks are racists, they can find reasons to justify their own oppression of’ black people.”

    — James H. Cone
    Black Theology and Black Power”

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  65. John September 5, 2017 at 6:22 PM #

    The point is that if black people are aware that the most horrible crimes imaginable were committed against their ancestors, but then they refuse to raise their voices and demand justice and retribution, it means that they have a very low assessment of their ancestors — and by extension– of themselves.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That is precisely the reason why an Islamic scholar in the 14th century with Europe in the Dark/Middle Ages could write the following words.

    “Therefore, the Negro nations are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because (Negroes) have little (that is essentially) human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated.”

    https://asadullahali.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/ibn_khaldun-al_muqaddimah.pdf

    Slavery in the Islamic world had existed for 700 years before Europeans even figured out how to sail to the west coast of Africa.

    Males were routinely castrated.

    Females became concubines.

    No wonder the scholar could take this position.

    So, you are one hundred percent correct, black people have a very low assessment of their ancestors and by extension – of themselves.

    Watch the change in thinking with the advent of Protestant Europe arising out of the Reformation.

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  66. John September 5, 2017 at 6:27 PM #

    I appreciate that my ancestors were sacred beings
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    There is the difference with the advent of Protestant, Reformed Europe.

    This is Quaker thinking which you are expressing.

    The Inner Light is present in everyone.

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  67. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 5, 2017 at 7:22 PM #

    Yet John…yall frauds love to falsely claim ya invented everything, even the most evil, money hungry greedy, vile, parasitic actions ever witnessed on an earth none of you monsters put here, to people your wicked ancestors had no right enslaving.

    ….that is why KARMA and RETRIBUTION will visit you and yours for thousands of years to come…

    Have you not noticed that the descendants of Arab enslavers, who honed their evil craft for thousands of years….can find no peace, neither in Africa nor the middle east….have you never heard me say I have no sympathy for any of them.

    ….they still have thousands of years left of war and running from pillow to post in RETRIBUTION before KARMA is appeased….and finished with the middle east and Arab enslavers.

    ….expect even worse for the descendants of European enslavers for their KARMA to last even longer, many, many thousands of years into the future of RETRIBUTION and misery are due, it has not started fully yet, but it will..and no one in the future should sympathize…..for yall deceit lies, arrogance, crimes against humanity and uppitiness.

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  68. Bush Tea September 5, 2017 at 9:13 PM #

    @ WW&C
    John’s retribution and misery has already started… can’t you tell…?
    The poor chap is haunted by the evil of his ancestors….

    There is no rest for the wicked…. until he is able to convince BU regulars that his ‘Quaker heroes’ were not the rank devils that that we all know them to have been….

    This means eternal torment for John… cause he can only convince Vincent.

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  69. John September 5, 2017 at 9:17 PM #

    Have you not noticed that the descendants of Arab enslavers, who honed their evil craft for thousands of years….can find no peace, neither in Africa nor the middle east….have you never heard me say I have no sympathy for any of them.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Africans seem to be facing a lot of Karma too!!!

    Is it because of their involvement in slavery?

    BS!!

    God gave all of us a way!!

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  70. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 6, 2017 at 4:56 AM #

    John…the way will not be the continuation of you minority parasites in Barbados living and surviving off the backs of the majority black population…through weak, black, corrupt government ministers and politicians …. like the leaches that ya are…ya will definitely have to find another way on ya own.

    those blacks who sold out their own people to starved out white people and Arab enslavers, of course KARMA and RETRIBUTION has to visit them for centuries to come, they can never get away, it has to resound so current black sell outs can see what is in store for them and their future generations because of their wicked, greedy treacherous to their own people, actions.

    And for the millionth time, your lies are useless, Africa has over 50 countries, not everyone nor even the majority, or a quarter of them have suffering, wars and destructio …Rwanda with all it’s decades of civil wars, violence and death previously, is now prospering significantly and at an extremely fast pace these days…making it a real player on the continent.

    There is nothing the likes of you can do to bring down that continent….and it just keeps rising.

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  71. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 6, 2017 at 5:00 AM #

    Bushman….John deserves his haunted, harassed soul, the sins of his fathers will travel through his bloodlines for many more thousands of years before it can finally be put down…..he is doomed, as are his future generations, to confess all their evil actions.

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  72. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 6, 2017 at 8:35 AM #

    If Black people dont learn their history, the evil that followed and stalked them and still does….. now with all this information at their fingertips, they never will.

    https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/wd4vqm/colonialism-on-camera?utm_campaign=global&utm_source=vicefbuk

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  73. 555dubstreet September 6, 2017 at 4:32 PM #

    Don’t Play That Song*

    (*) + Well Charge Dubwise

    GAME

    OVER

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  74. David September 9, 2017 at 3:54 PM #

  75. Ancient tomb with mummies unearthed in Egypt

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