The Caswell Franklyn Column – Robbing the Dead

Caswell Franklyn, General Secretary of Unity Workers Union

My fondest wish is that these columns do not only provide an opportunity for me to vent but that they impart useful information to the public. To this end, I would like to share my experiences that could be beneficial to others.

So far two of my friends have trusted me to take care of their affairs after they have departed this world. In both cases they asked if I would consider being the executor of their estates. I felt humbled and honoured that they would consider me for such a sacred role and I accepted.

Unfortunately, in both cases, I have encountered banks doing their best to milk the estates by implementing unnecessary procedures and imposing fees for their work.

Just last month I turned up at a bank, accompanied by my friend’s elderly widow, with Letters Testamentary to close his bank account and hand the proceeds over to her. Letters Testamentary is a document issued by the High Court that authorises the executor of a will to take control of the estate of a deceased person.

I instructed the bank to close the account and pay the proceeds over to the widow. Having passed that way before, I was not surprised that the bank refused. Instead, they claimed that the bank’s procedure required me to open an estate account from which I would be able to make payments, since they did not disburse cash in these circumstances.

I insisted that the Letters Testamentary authorised me to operate that account and demanded legal tender. The bank manager refused to budge, which forced me to complain to the bank’s legal and compliance department. Thankfully, the legal officer resolved the matter almost immediately and I was able to obtain cash, without paying the bank any fees.

The fees were small but as far as I was concerned, the bank had no right to them. I was offended that the bank would try to extort money from the accounts of deceased persons. It is a crying shame that banks would institute unnecessary procedures to rob the dead but they are not alone.

In many instances, deceased persons leave very small estates but legal fees to obtain Letters of Administration would wipe out the greater portion of the estate. But rather than advise their clients to utilise the free procedure available to them, lawyers advise their clients to go through the courts where they can relieve the estate of the few remaining dollars.

When a deceased person leaves an estate valued less than $15,000, there is no need for a lawyer. Subsection 5. (1) of the Public Trustee Act states:

Any person who in the opinion of the Public Trustee would be entitled to apply to the High Court for an order for the administration by the High Court of an estate, the gross capital value whereof is proved to the satisfaction of the Public Trustee to be less than fifteen thousand dollars, may apply to the Public Trustee to administer the estate, and where any such application is made and it appears to the Public Trustee that the persons beneficially entitled are persons of small means, the Public Trustee shall administer the estate, unless he sees good reason for refusing to do so.

Mind you, even when a lawyer applies for Letters of Administration of these small estates, the courts seem to be complicit with the lawyers in relieving poor people of their meagre inheritance. Subsection 5. (6) states:

Where proceedings have been instituted for the administration of an estate and by reason of the small value of the estate it appears to the High Court that the estate can be more economically administered by the Public Trustee than by the High Court or that for any other reason it is expedient that the estate should be administered by the Public Trustee instead of the High Court, the High Court may order that the estate shall be administered by the Public Trustee, and thereupon (subject to any directions by the High Court) this section shall apply as if the administration of the estate had been undertaken by the Public Trustee in pursuance of this section.

The Public Trustee is the person who holds the post of Solicitor General.

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145 Comments on “The Caswell Franklyn Column – Robbing the Dead”

  1. fortyacresandamule April 23, 2017 at 5:40 PM #

    Sagicor head office relocating to Bermuda is nothing more that setting up a PO BOX addresss or a store front with hired hands.

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  2. NorthernObserver April 23, 2017 at 5:43 PM #

    @CF
    Instructive.
    My experience in the executor arena is beware.
    Banks, in everything they do, will always try to “cover their ass” but get “you to pay for it”.
    Lawyers will do what is expedient, not necessarily in the Heirs best interest.
    And if one agrees to be an executor, please ask the person to have a will. It make executing their wishes that much easier and clean cut.

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  3. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 23, 2017 at 5:48 PM #

    Do not purchase life insurance in Barbados, it’s a waste of money, do not invest your pensions in insurance companies….waste of money.

    Shop around for home and car insurance, investigate the histories of the insurance companies, their reputations and honesty re paying out compensation on valid claims, before you give them your business….

    ……there are many insurance companies on the island competing to relieve you of your money every month, do not make it easy for them, it’s free money they collect and they all believe themselves entitled to take your money and dont pay you any.

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  4. John April 23, 2017 at 10:06 PM #

    Caswell Franklyn April 23, 2017 at 4:56 PM #
    Mind you, even when a lawyer applies for Letters of Administration of these small estates, the courts seem to be complicit with the lawyers in relieving poor people of their meagre inheritance.
    It would appear that the article was too long for the Sunday and the above words were edited out. The point that I was making is that even the courts of justice conspire with lawyers to rob poor people.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    When the fix is in it really doesn’t matter who you are!!

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  5. John April 23, 2017 at 11:01 PM #

    A lawyer told me write a holographic will, lodge it in the registry and forget it!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_will

    I did so and gave the beneficiaries a copy!!

    I read routinely of non-cupative wills from the 17th and 18th century where the testator tells a witness his/her last wishes and they give evidence after the death.

    Looks like they are still used today but only for personal property, a death bed will.

    The guy who wrote his uncle’s will and made himself the executor and left the bulk to himself also named the old family lawyer as executor as well back in 1982.

    The old family lawyer took one look at the will when it was submitted for probate, realized it was rubbish and promptly renounced.

    The nephew did not realise he was disposing of land for which his uncle had no title and personal property which was compromised and committed to others for whom the old lawyer also acted.

    Plus, the old man would have been placed in a position of conflict with his clients to whom the personal property in the will was committed.

    The old family lawyer had provided a will more than two decades earlier so knew the score.

    Had the nephew taken the time to ask the old lawyer if he would stand, a whole lotta sh!t would have been avoided … but he didn’t so courts and lawyers in Barbados spent 30 odd years trying to juggle things so he never had to give an account.

    But the problem is the nephew died as will we all one day.

    Three lawyers and a sibling are named as executors so at least one has to step up to the plate and deal with the mess.

    One lawyer has renounced and run for the hills and a second is making noises like he will too!!

    The second lawyer wants to advise the sibling as executor, kind of like hiding behind a civilian executor as he hides his transgressions.

    A human shield!!

    Only in Barbados could something as crazy as this happen!!

    Normally, you only get scenarios like this one in the movies, pure make believe, never in real life!!

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  6. Bush Tea April 23, 2017 at 11:16 PM #

    Sagicor moved from Barbados to escape the kind of scrutiny that the CLICO scandal would normally have raised in a sane society….

    The only REAL difference between CLICO and Sagicor is that politicians openly targeted the former for raids …via the semi-literate idiot in charge.
    Sagicor has continued in the same lethargic, mediocre vein that was used during the first hundred years when it enjoyed the privileges of the Mutual.

    Their poor management of their Sugar lands; their lack of impact against corporate raiders such as Massy, Emera, Lime etc has been pathetic. Sagicor has been just a TAKER…. giving very little back in return to Barbados.

    Their lack of impact in influencing our shiite governments inefficiencies has been criminal.

    Having benefited from the inert brass bowlery of Bajans for a century….Sagicor has now run off as soon as the going got a little rough.

    Hal’s questions REALLY needs to be answered… and those answers documented.

    But Cave Hill will not do it …for fear that certain traitors who have influence up there are exposed for their roles in the demutualisation scam.

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  7. Tron April 24, 2017 at 12:45 AM #

    @Carson C. Cadogan April 23, 2017 at 3:06 PM

    Bermuda GDP per capita was more than 85,000 USD per PERSON in 2013. It Barbados it takes a whole VILLAGE to generate such amount.

    Do your decimals, before you compare rich Bermuda and poor Barbados.

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  8. John April 24, 2017 at 7:47 AM #

    Here is a theory.

    God don’t like ugly!!

    By the 1980’s and 90’s, the Post Independence Members of Parliament (PIMPS) realized Sagicor was turning land into profits which they shared with their policyholders …. remember, “the profits belong to the policyholders” the essence of being Mutual.

    Greed and over inflated egos caused them to find a way to compete.

    No longer was getting a cut for giving permissions to develop providing the funds to finance their lifestyles.

    Selling permissions to develop created too much profits for others.

    We want more Grynner, we want more!

    Corruption on a scale unknown in Barbados ensued.

    Take a look at the Robinson family at Constant in St. George in yesterday’s paper to understand the scam.

    Funnily enough, the same nephew who rewrote his uncle’s will and who the law should have asked to give an account of that estate a year after issuing letters testamentary in 1982 is one other such example of the failed court system and the corruption that took over Barbados in the quest for riches.

    CLICO became the politicians vehicle to untold riches.

    Except CLICO had its own agenda!!!

    The result is large tracts of land which remain idle growing bush and cow itch …. why would a bunch of foreigners care?

    They got the cash!!

    The Mutual realized it could never compete against such deep corruption and realized it really had to get outside of Barbados if it wanted to continue to make profits.

    Demutualisation was the vehicle.

    That way it’s shares could be used to raise capital for further investments to create profits and it did not have to rely on purchasing land from middle men who were really front men for politicians.

    Now, like Goddard’s it has a wider presence in the world, kind of like not putting your eggs in one basket which is held by politicians.

    I am not saying Mutual/Sagicor is a bunch of angels, just that it out thought the PIMPS, like Goddards had long before.

    They are beyond the reach of the politicians!!

    If you want to compare land management, go look at Todds and Henley, Small Ridge (anyone remember SBG, Simmons, Bannister and Greaves) etc. etc. and compare those lands with say Windsor, Buttals, Buckley, Orange Hill and you will see the difference in management.

    … CLICO owned vs Sagicor owned.

    CLICO must have realized that PIMPS have insatiable appetites and it would only be a matter of time before it too was consumed so it converted its investments to cash in a Ponzi scheme in Florida.

    Any good hooker gets insurance!!

    Tens of thousands of policyholders in the Caribbean were nailed because they got greedy too.

    CLICO was supposed to get cheap land via the politicians so it could only make profits, profits which it promised to convert to returns on the policyholders investment.

    Everybody was supposed to benefit … but PIMPS and their hookers came first.

    Remember CSME …. that rationalized the “investment” of CLICO in Barbados.

    You no longer hear anything anymore!!

    CLICO sucked up all the cash it could and put it overseas in a Florida land scam which went south!

    No more need of CSME!!

    CSME achieved its objective.

    Everybody suffers.

    … but Mutual/Sagicor is still alive and avoided, at least so far, the taint of corruption!!

    It lives to fight another day!!

    The politicians are left to continue with their scams on the people who have been sucked dry!!

    … and the Courts and Government will keep the greedy tens of thousands who lost their cash in suspense waiting for them to die.

    Effectively they will have robbed the dead on a scale which boggles the mind …. the subject of this blog!!

    In so doing they devalue the country and leave the final steps, credit rating collapses and devaluation of the currency to unfold.

    … and still they actually keep telling the people we can still borrow money, we are ok!!

    Mutual/Sagicor is alive!!

    Whatever happened to NLICO?!!

    Has it emerged from Court yet??

    Why would anyone with the ability to invest put their resources into Barbados?

    To watch them dissipated in the hands of a corrupt and lawless country and have no recourse in the courts?

    To repay the CLICO folks those resources will be tapped.

    God don’t like ugly!!

    Time “gentlemen” is being called.

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  9. Artax April 24, 2017 at 7:48 AM #

    Tron April 24, 2017 at 12:45 AM #

    “Bermuda GDP per capita was more than 85,000 USD per PERSON in 2013. It Barbados it takes a whole VILLAGE to generate such amount. Do your DECIMALS, before you compare rich Bermuda and poor Barbados.”

    @ Tron

    Wait……. Tron?

    So……. Carson C. Cadogan is really Sinckler????

    Or not fully understanding decimals is uh DLP t’ing?

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  10. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 24, 2017 at 9:56 AM #

    “The politicians are left to continue with their scams on the people who have been sucked dry!!”

    “Why would anyone with the ability to invest put their resources into Barbados?

    To watch them dissipated in the hands of a corrupt and lawless country and have no recourse in the courts?”

    And the corruption between DBLP government ministers and insurance executives on the island is far from over.

    I have it on very good authority that the former owner of CGI Towers Peter Harris, who now rents some office space in the same CGI Towers from Scotia Bank…..who got at least 20 million from the sale of CGI Towers, is telling certain people that he can get them jobs when, he should really say if, the Mia Mottley led government is elected………….by the poor unfortunate electorate whose eyes need to be opened to how they are misused and abused by politicians and government ministers to accommodate such fraudsters and conmen to compromise the population’s futures and that of their children and grandchildren. …and the functioning of the government elected by the people.

    20 million dollars, even more or less, after partners are paid out, debts are paid and personal injury claimants are still NOT PAID…….can buy a lot of government corruption in the form of election campaign financing….remember CLICO and Leroy Parris and David Thompson and Owen Arthur…..so the culprits can be allowed to commit crimes against the people, against the country without any consequences. ….in that case bajans will never see CGI Insurance properly regulated on the island.

    I keep saying there is something very wrong with that relationship Mia Mottley and Jerome Walcott has with Peter Harris.

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  11. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 24, 2017 at 10:04 AM #

    It would be wonderful if neither Mia Mottley nor Fruendel Stuart DBLP are elected…are these politicians and new political parties who went begging Bizzy for money so stupid that they cannot see when they take campaign financing money for elections from criminals….THEY ARE OWNED BY THESE CRIMINALS……and owe them….and because these same hand to mouth ministers and politicians have very little money themselves, it’s the taxpayer’s money, contracts, NIS pension fund and everything owned by the people, they then have to pick up and give away to those they owe, who paid for them to bribe voters.

    ……..they obviously think so little of themselves and their ability to be elected by the people that they must introduce corruption and the criminal element.

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  12. Simple Simon April 24, 2017 at 10:09 AM #

    @John April 24, 2017 at 7:47 AM “CLICO sucked up all the cash it could and put it overseas in a Florida land scam which went south!”

    What happened? The bigger sharks ate the smaller sharks?

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  13. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 24, 2017 at 11:14 AM #

    Simple..lol……..ya can get some good swamp land filled with alligators, sold to you by giant sharks and alligators of the 2 legged variey for a song…, Duprey probably got soaked for a couple billion worth of songs for Everglade land…haha..lol….and collapsed CL Financial and it’s subsidiaries. …with CLICO being one.

    …… dont forget the local crooks, CEO and lawyers were also dipping their hands to leave multimillion dollar estates when they croak, building mansions and buying 10 and 15 houses, land and whatever else their greedy minds could conjure.

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  14. John April 24, 2017 at 12:19 PM #

    Sharks and sprats!!

    The PIMPS are completely incompetent when it comes to creation of business activity so it stands to reason when they go outside for partners in crime they will find bigger badder asses than themselves!!

    The nature of the associations are such that due diligence is not an option.

    Everything has to be secret.

    If they would only concentrate on the jobs they were elected to do and put their delusions of grandeur aside we would live in a much happier island!!

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  15. Bush Tea April 24, 2017 at 3:18 PM #

    Bushie likes this new incarnation of John….
    …but then again it always starts out so sweet… 🙂
    …then there is all downhill…

    But John, at what stage would you think that a specially favoured son like Sagicor, OWES it to the dysfunctional family, to bring his newly acquired CLOUT to bear in STRAIGHTENING out the lotta shiite in the family?

    When you showered your firstborn with blessings – some think to the disadvantage of his siblings, Did you not expect …nay REQUIRE, …that when he comes into his glory, that he will BRING his siblings along with him?

    Are you therefore defending this specially favoured son choosing to run off to live with another family …because his family (which nurtured him) is now too contaminated for his continued success?
    …..Has he no RESPONSIBILITIES….?

    Come on John, why would you and Bushie always be at each others throats …?
    Let us agree on this one nuh??!!….

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  16. Pachamama April 24, 2017 at 3:37 PM #

    Unlike Bushie we do not hold such notions of the role Sagicor, past or present, played.

    Indeed, it may be a rightness that such an organization is properly sent on a quest in some far-flung desert.

    What Bushie is underestimating is that this ‘favoured son’, like all the rest, can only exist in an social economy like Barbados.

    Dodridge Miller and his troupe of idiots have failed everywhere else. These idiots have not a clue how to run a global public corporation.

    Theirs, when assessed by the best metric, is worse than a common breed dog in global financial affairs.

    This current form was speciously decided upon merely to disenfranchise ordinary policyholders.

    Bushie! Does karma not demand a certain outcome.

    Otherwise, we see no circumstances where profiteering from slavery and centuries of denial of justice could avoid the damnation of Pachamama.

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  17. John April 24, 2017 at 5:19 PM #

    The reincarnation of The Mutual as Sagicor is alive.

    CLICO is dead!!

    The lawyers and experts are busy picking the carcass.

    You look at the lands of Barbados Farms and see they are being worked.

    Most of the yams that are available in the supermarkets are grown by Sagicor …. well, Barbados Farms Ltd. which is owned by Sagicor

    They could have belonged to Sir COW if you recall the sale of the company!!

    It wasn’t long ago that Sagicor threatened to get out of sugar.

    The simple fact is that sugar as it has done for years (perhaps from the beginning) does not turn a profit.

    The evidence is before your eyes if you would look … the land is being worked!!

    So, if sugar does not make a profit it must follow Sagicor is subsidizing the industry and by extension Barbados!!!

    Likewise, it must have made economic sense over the generations to lose money but I won’t go into the historical facts at this point, they may upset you.

    You would be surprised to learn how, by whom and why Barbados was subsidized over the centuries.

    Sometimes it makes economic sense to lose money!!!

    You now need to go and figure out the current economic reason!!

    As time progresses the economic reasons change so don’t take too long as the economics may have changed by the time you figure it out.

    On the other hand, look at CLICO’s lands … pure bush, cow itch and miamosi waiting for permissions for development in an island that has allocated all of its water resources.

    Go and look for yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    … and then think!!

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  18. Vincent Haynes April 24, 2017 at 6:28 PM #

    John April 24, 2017 at 5:19 PM #

    On point as usual…..facts are facts and cannot be disputed.

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  19. John April 24, 2017 at 7:32 PM #

    Bajan Confucius say …..

    You can hide and buy land but you can’t hide and work it!!

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  20. Gabriel April 24, 2017 at 8:19 PM #

    John
    Are you saying that Sir John Chandler Todd’s estate is not really owned by Clico?If so tell us who owns it.What about Wakefield,Pool,Lemon Arbor?

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  21. Bush Tea April 24, 2017 at 9:07 PM #

    What John is saying is that after over a century of exploiting Barbadians, the most that we can expect from Sagicor is that they are able to ‘stay alive’, and grow a few sweet potatoes and yams…. What an inditement…!!

    Imagine that little ‘pissy’ organisations like Emera …that started in the 1990s have come and taken over utilities from Canada to the Caribbean – making millions in the process and kicking (literally) Bajans to the curb while bringing semi-literate Canadians to run things at BL&P.

    Sandals, a “Johnny-come-lately” family business recently scammed our retarded government out of 40 years of taxes – in addition to a sweetheart deal that guarantees them easy money as well of control over Bajans as serfs in their hotels.

    Massy came from Trickidad and became the new Massa ’bout here while Republic Bank controls our money….

    …and our ‘big dog’ Sagicor has managed to ‘stay alive’ and actually grow some yams….

    Ohhh Shirt!!!
    ….no wonder Vincent is impressed….
    The man is daft….

    @ Pacha
    We are saying the same thing.
    Sagicor does not have the QUALITY management to play the kind of role that Bushie speaks of, BUT none-the-less, they OWN the responsibility.

    It speaks VOLUMES of the current lot that they choose instead to run away to a safe harbour, while burying the talent that they have been given locally…barely producing yams and sweet potatoes in an era where REAL managers are conquering the world.

    Their best hope for success slipped when Herbert left and ended up at Goddards. The pack of parasites that entrenched themselves there, feasting on the fat while contributing NOTHING are of the same vein as our current political shiite hounds.

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  22. vincent haynes April 24, 2017 at 9:17 PM #

    Bushie

    Chuckle….as usual…comprehension…..neither I or John indicated being impressed,simply stated the facts.

    Not surprised with your comment as you still lack the maturity to be be impressed with your ancestors be they house or yard slaves.

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  23. John April 24, 2017 at 9:20 PM #

    Gabriel April 24, 2017 at 8:19 PM #
    John
    Are you saying that Sir John Chandler Todd’s estate is not really owned by Clico?If so tell us who owns it.What about Wakefield,Pool,Lemon Arbor?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Not been worked so somebody mussee hiding … assuming Bajan Confucius right!!

    Wonder who it could be!!

    Try the forensic report!!

    … and if Sagicor keeping its agricultural lands here running at a loss, it got to be profitable somewhere else …

    For sure, out of reach of the lawless clowns here and in a proper law abiding jurisdiction .

    So regardless of the perceived abilities of its management sounds like it is doing something right!!!!

    On this last point it doesn’t take much common sense to figure out some people ain’t got too much up top and can’t see the forest for the trees!!!!

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  24. John April 24, 2017 at 9:21 PM #

    …. or Quakers!!

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  25. John April 25, 2017 at 2:33 PM #

    BT

    … and it isn’t only Barbados Farms that works its lands for the benefit of Barbados at a loss to themselves.

    Wherever you look and see fields being ploughed or planted, crops being reaped and lands in order, there you look for the true true Bajans who will subsidize their country at a loss to themselves.

    All the places you see lands lying idle waiting for permissions to develop or bribes to pass … there is where you will find the imitation Bajans and the parasites looking to make a fast buck.

    Just drive around, use whatever sense you have in your head and see who is who!!

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  26. Bush Tea April 25, 2017 at 3:42 PM #

    @ John
    Don’t you get it yet?

    Of course you are right that right-thinking people are overwhelmed by the idiocy that parades as national leadership in Barbados.
    Of course we are being oppressed with brass bowlery….

    The POINT is that, whereas little fish like Bushie and even the great (talker) Vincent can hardly expect to do anything about it but gripe on BU, ….an entity such as SAGICOR, with its HUGE financial and social clout, SHOULD be able to stamp some common sense back into local political management.

    Same way that Butch Stewart could dictate 40-year tax free status; cut down forests; bring in Jamaican tourism experts and still keep his money offshore, why should SAGICOR not be in a position to FORCE a degree of ethical behaviour, transparency and integrity into local politics?

    If, given all the advantages that they have enjoyed, they are unable to make such a national contribution, pray tell us who the hell should be charged with the DUTY of saving our sorry donkeys? …. Ossie Moore cousin Carl? ….stinking Bushie? …..mock stick Vincent?

    Skippa..
    To whom much is GIVEN…. much is expected.

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  27. Gabriel April 25, 2017 at 4:46 PM #

    Sagicor,BS&T,Bdos Light &Power (who never sought a rate increase from 1984 to ’08,)BNB,GEL,all power houses with a local breastplate.Only GEL left and if Sealy the politico has his way,would not be entitled to a decent profit on its operations which are far and wide in the region and the world.Butch on the other hand is allowed to reap a 40 year tax free domicile here and according to Adrian no Cockspur nor Mount Gay in the bar service,bare Appleton….a lovely rum ‘tho,but it has no place in Bim the original rum producer to the world.

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  28. Bush Tea April 25, 2017 at 5:16 PM #

    Shiite man Gabriel…
    When Bushie grows up, his key wish is to be able to explain complex Bajan matters as succinctly as you so routinely do….

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  29. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 25, 2017 at 8:18 PM #

    John…all we need to do not is put 4 or 5,000 bajan whites in the fields to work it for free, for 50 years …… that way they can really show some love fir the country, it’s called giving back….

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  30. Simple Simon April 26, 2017 at 3:46 PM #

    @Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 25, 2017 at 8:18 PM “put 4 or 5,000 bajan whites in the fields to work it for free, for 50 years …… that way they can really show some love fir the country, it’s called giving back….

    Why 50 years? Slavery was practiced by white English people and white Bajans against black Bajans from 1627 to 1838=211 years of reparations are due.

    What 50 years you talking ’bout?

    50 yeas is not even 1/4 of what is due.

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  31. Vincent Haynes April 26, 2017 at 3:54 PM #

    Simple Simon April 26, 2017 at 3:46 PM #

    Where are going to put London Bourne and his ilk?

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  32. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 27, 2017 at 4:30 AM #

    Simple…do you really see any of them lasting 50 years in the hpt sun as red niggers, 2 generations of bajan whites in the fields planting, hoeing and weeding, we already know they are lazy, pretentious, think themselves superior, love to practice racism against the black majority population and are uppity, they will run off to UK, US, Canada, Australia and take maid jobs and garbage collectors jobs first….but they will be in for a shock this time.

    Why ya think John did not reply…lol

    Vincent…are there any descendants of London Bourne alive today, it would be interesting to know their current social and financial state…..if his reputation and financial status as a slave owner benefitted them in any way, or if they devolved into poverty as the descendants of most slave masters did.

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  33. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 27, 2017 at 4:32 AM #

    Had to make the correction, this is too gopd…lol

    Simple…do you really see any of them lasting 50 years in the HOT sun as red niggers…lol

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  34. millertheanunnaki April 27, 2017 at 5:47 AM #

    @ Simple Simon April 26, 2017 at 3:46 PM
    “Why 50 years? Slavery was practiced by white English people and white Bajans against black Bajans from 1627 to 1838=211 years of reparations are due.”

    Simple Simon, you are a person who likes to set the record straight when it comes to Bajan history.

    A most commendable habit of yours, especially when the revisionists are out in their numbers to blame whites (Bushie’s albinos) for all the sins which previously existed in Bim and are still occurring even after 65 years of adult suffrage and 50 years of so-called independent governance under black politicians most of them descendants of black slaves especially the current primus inter parris, the epitome of such pure lineage in sycophantic subservience.

    Are you aware that after the English settlement the first people who worked the lands were the whites forcibly shipped to Barbados?

    Most of these were captured rebels from civil wars and convicts ‘barbadoesed’ to rid the British societies of their undesirables.

    Are you aware that even well into the 18th Century the white population (the majority existing under ‘slave-like’ conditions) outnumbered the enslaved blacks?

    Haven’t these exploited whites already paid their dues in the hot sun with most of their fast dwindling descendants stricken with their ancestral curse of skin carcinoma?

    Shouldn’t some form of reparations also be granted to the descendants of those remaining poor ‘albino’ souls?

    Or is compensation already being made to them today by the same mentally-enslaved black politicians through the ‘corrupting’ award of contracts to the likes of COW, the baloney boy and the SOL owner especially under the DLP administration in return for a few pieces of blackened electoral silver?

    Haven’t black administrations betrayed the cause of any call for reparations by selling out their black masses?

    In modern Barbados now pray tell us who are those who will be ‘buying’ for a song the same State-owned assets and receiving all the big contracts?

    The blacks who are still paying for their ancestors original sins in West Africa for selling their own for mirrors, trinkets and booze?

    Or is it those same ‘albino’ people whom you would like to see pay for their ancestors sins by revengefully working them like slaves in the hot boiling Bajan sun?

    Where is that electoral promise to ensure small businesses (mainly black-owned) get their 40% share of all government contracts?

    It’s time you stupid blacks stop blaming the white people and look into the mirror. Don’t you think so, SS?

    Uncle Tommy Miller living in albino land!

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  35. lawson April 27, 2017 at 6:15 AM #

    quit using double negatives

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  36. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 27, 2017 at 9:44 AM #

    Miller…ya may have missed it but through the jackasses in parliament, the minorities have been taking their reparations by the hundreds of millions of dollars from treasury and NIS pension, for over 30 years…but from the black population, who if you remember did not have any of them or their ancestors living under slavelike conditions………again, this has been allowed by stupid politicians and ministers.

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  37. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 27, 2017 at 9:49 AM #

    Did you have a hard night Lawson…lol

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  38. lawson April 27, 2017 at 11:18 AM #

    its only your dunce canadian lover that has soft wood issues

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  39. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 27, 2017 at 11:37 AM #

    Lol…ya real touchy today.

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  40. Simple Simon April 27, 2017 at 12:00 PM #

    @millertheanunnaki April 27, 2017 at 5:47 AM “It’s time you stupid blacks stop blaming the white people and look into the mirror. Don’t you think so, SS?”

    Dear miller etc.

    Regretfully I cannot answer your many questions since I am not stupid.

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  41. Simple Simon April 27, 2017 at 12:01 PM #

    @lawson April 27, 2017 at 6:15 AM “quit using double negatives”

    get lost you old racist you.

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  42. Simple Simon April 27, 2017 at 12:03 PM #

    @Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 27, 2017 at 9:49 AM “Did you have a hard night Lawson…lol”

    lawson is waiting on his pension cheque so that he can renew his ED prescription, so no he did not have a hard night.

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  43. Vincent Haynes April 27, 2017 at 12:27 PM #

    Simple Simon

    Any thoughts yet on London Bournes position in Bims History.

    While you are thinking on that one what about the continued discrimination between the progeny of the house vs the yard vs the field slave……more than likely based on the original aristocracy of the slaves family when captured and sold by another tribe or their own family.

    Miller has a point worth pursuing as many Pelau’s/Dougla’s are the offsprings of slave and indentured,yet no recognition of this section of our forefathers/mothers.

    Ah can see yuh scratching yuh head as this slave thing aint that simple….pun intended

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  44. millertheanunnaki April 27, 2017 at 1:15 PM #

    @ Simple Simon April 27, 2017 at 12:00 PM

    We know you, SS, are not stupid that is why we would ask you just a few ‘simple’ questions:

    How would you go about ‘demanding’ “211 years of reparations”?

    And in which form would you be demanding the reparations be made by that fast disappearing species called Bajan whites?

    How about going to the church you inherited from them and pray to their god for them instead of wanting to banish them to the imaginary cane fields for 211 years?

    Do you expect those sycophantic people you elect as leaders in the local Parliament and aping Westminster whites to be so bold as to ever ask the British politicians or the Royal family to their faces for reparations?

    Would you also be demanding reparations from your West African brothers and sisters whose ancestors sold your ancestors to the albinos in the first instance?

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  45. lawson April 27, 2017 at 1:17 PM #

    If by ED you mean extra dalwhinnie you got that right. Off to the bars to get primed for Melnyks senators kicking ass. You better head over to Berts to see all the ranger fans crying ..get one of the daiquiris give your tongue a sleigh ride.

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  46. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 27, 2017 at 2:22 PM #

    Miller….Simple knows she need not worry about bajan whites they are disappearing anyway…becoming extinct….400 years and there are still less than 8,000 on the island, they are all but extinct, if ya count the ones that migrated after 1966… ya still cant get 20,000.

    It’s the idiots in parliament really the problem, bunch of slave minded buffoons.

    Lawson….it’s your boyfriend trump, yours and Chad’s doing crap and have everyone on edge, he is just stumbling around picking fights…..he will soon come for your pension…he aint done yet…lol

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  47. CUP Violet Beckles Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZ April 27, 2017 at 3:01 PM #

    David April 23, 2017 at 3:10 PM #

    Sagicor redomiciled to Bermuda because it has a more stable sovereign risk rating than Barbados. As you know our rating is junk.

    JA@@@@

    Sagicor might try the same land fraud investment there and that ntation will also end up like Barbados, for they are the same as CLICO and Jennifer King the crook lawyer,These two companies in Backed by lawyers and high Court crooks working on the inside,with the hlep of FIRST CARIBBEAN BANK AND CIBC NEW OWNERS

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  48. CUP Violet Beckles Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZ April 27, 2017 at 3:09 PM #

    John April 24, 2017 at 5:19 PM #

    The reincarnation of The Mutual as Sagicor is alive.

    CLICO is dead!! @@@@

    wE ALSO question the land owenrship of COW , Clico and Sagrico in Barbados, you may re write your post if freedom of information was at the Archives to see the Plantation owners and what was sold or held and money taken by these compaines , PONZI and Land Fraud,

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  49. NorthernObserver April 27, 2017 at 4:53 PM #

    WW&C… your numbers maybe high. I suspect from my visits, the lighter toned persons living in Bim, maybe ex-pats in the majority (to use your terminology). And I mean they come from all-about, they were not born in Bim nor grew up there.

    One day soon, the favourite poster boys like Cow, Bizzy, Bjerkham will be dead. Then a new crew will have to be found? It plays well across all sectors, as focusing on them deflects from others.

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  50. Vincent Haynes April 27, 2017 at 5:33 PM #

    NorthernObserver April 27, 2017 at 4:53 PM #

    One day soon, the favourite poster boys like Cow, Bizzy, Bjerkham will be dead.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    Chuckle…..you are so right

    Back in the day it was the Alleynes,Bowrings,Sealy,Haynes,Dowding,Challenor,Manning,etc,etc…..a mix of old and new money at that time……..they disappeared….members of Royal Yacht Club.

    Then you have the new boys on the block above and some more,self made from nothing…..who back in the day would not be accepted in the Royal Yacht club.

    Who will be next…….note each evolution changes the pigment and background……one thing all will have in common is a virulent dislike by a few for whatever reason.

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  51. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger April 27, 2017 at 7:14 PM #

    Northern. ..not even I want to invest in Barbados, so don’t hold your breath for the replacements unless they are crooks, the electorate has to keep the pressure up, high up on the politicians/ministers to stop that crap….

    ….and to make matters even worse, the arrogant, dishonest lawyers will not want to change their dirty ways, the supreme court will remain a hot, disorganized mess….no one wants to be involved in that type of scenario except for criminals and crooks….word will spread investors with real money will avoid the island….a lose, lose.

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  52. lawson April 28, 2017 at 6:59 AM #

    Invest in barbados ??? I have said this before if you think toronto or vancouver realestate is out of whack try buying a decent house on the island a bunch of concrete blocks with pex and minimum electrics and it is crazy money.

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  53. Hal Austin April 28, 2017 at 7:31 AM #

    Vincent,
    I know it is now the popular view, but traditional black Barbadians, ie descendants from slavery in the main, and traditional white Barbadians, ie descendants from indentured labour in the main, must reach a compromise and work together. I remember a white professional traditional Barbadian telling me that he would like to enter elective politics but was not sure if he would get support. He should, if his ideas were good ones.
    As long as this stand off continues, the New Barbadians will sweep in and take over the country: the Trinidadians, the Indians, the Pakistanis, the Brits, the Canadians, the Irish, and others.
    They have no love for Barbadians, black or white. I remember a few years ago while at Holders Hill with a Scottish friend whose wife was engaged for the season, hearing a young English girls from Kent saying that he ‘hated’ (her word) white Barbadians. It was an outburst following harassment from a white Barbadian man who made the assumption that they were all white together.
    It is convenient sitting in Europe and North America pretending that we can dissect the social breakdown in Barbados. The reality is different|: traditional white-owned businesses have failed; the black, middle class, professional elite has failed; the conventional organised labour organisations have failed. And corporatist nonsense about ISO is pie in the sky.
    We need a new form of politics.

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  54. Bush Tea April 28, 2017 at 7:43 AM #

    Obviously you will now go on to tell us exactly what we need as a ‘new form of politics’ …
    …right Hal?

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  55. Hal Austin April 28, 2017 at 8:22 AM #

    Bushie,

    The people and their leaders must decide. It is not for me to say. That is what we call Leninism.

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  56. Vincent Haynes April 28, 2017 at 8:34 AM #

    Hal Austin April 28, 2017 at 7:31 AM #

    Cannot disagree with anything you stated above.

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  57. Gabriel April 28, 2017 at 9:50 AM #

    Hal
    A new form of politics?give us an example of what you have in mind

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  58. Hal Austin April 28, 2017 at 11:46 AM #

    Gabriel,
    Can’t you read, or is it that you like an argument. I suggest you Google it as yo often do. In simple English, it is not my call. Do yo understand?

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  59. Bush Tea April 28, 2017 at 11:52 AM #

    LOL @ Hal
    Boss … tek it easy nuh!!!

    How you mean ‘the people and their leaders must decide?” Who have been “deciding” over the past 50 years…? Martians?

    What YOU said was that “a new form of politics is needed”. When asked ‘such as what?’ … you slap in a reverse gear…?

    Man come with an example /explanation of what you mean … or forever be associated with Carl Moore …as a NATO representative (No Action, Talk only…”)
    Ha ha ha
    LOL

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  60. Caswell Franklyn April 28, 2017 at 12:35 PM #

    The last thing we need is a new form of politics operated by the old crooks. That would be corrupted just like the system that we have now.

    We need enforcement to fix the system that we have now. And we need to see a few familiar faces peering through the other side of the bars at Dodds.

    Sent from my iPad

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  61. Bush Tea April 28, 2017 at 1:33 PM #

    @ Caswell
    So what problem would you have with a totally new system which was structured such that the crooks were automatically exposed by transparency, where ordinary folks had the RIGHT to all informations on contracts etc; where an oversight group of ordinary folks had the POWER to override the big bosses…?

    There may be some systems that cannot be changed by enforcement, since the system itself is built around the exercise of power, and hence ‘enforcement’ is by definition … The System.

    …you done know where Bushie going too…. 🙂

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  62. Hal Austin April 28, 2017 at 2:21 PM #

    Caswell,

    You are wrong. A ‘New Politics’ with the old actors is not new; Bushie, like it or not, when an individual imposes his/her views on a society we call that dictatorship; when he/she imposes the party, we call that Leninism.

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  63. Caswell Franklyn April 28, 2017 at 7:43 PM #

    Hal

    I am wrong because you said so? Hahahaha!

    Sent from my iPad

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  64. Gabriel April 28, 2017 at 8:05 PM #

    Hal
    Your prescription of a ‘new politics’.Of what is it compounded?

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  65. Bush Tea April 28, 2017 at 8:13 PM #

    Bushie, like it or not, when an individual imposes his/her views on a society we call that dictatorship; when he/she imposes the party, we call that Leninism.
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    Are you saying that when someone imposes his will on the party that in Leninism? …or that when someone imposes the PARTY on society, that is Leninism?

    Does Leninism not require someone to impose his will on society …VIA the party?
    …what if, in “imposing the party” on society, the party’s views were representative of society’s desires?

    Surely, Leninism requires a predisposition, and almost fanatical commitment, to communism as a national philosophy to begin with…

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  66. nanci May 3, 2017 at 2:09 PM #

    years ago there were workers coming into neighborhoods encouraging people to pay life insurance. People would pay life insurance, then the company would close down, and open in a different name. Its better to put your money on the bank. Living spouses or families should open a joint account, so if one die, the other person could withdraw the money. They always robbing the poor, because they know poor people are mostly uneducated and illiterate.

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  67. nanci May 3, 2017 at 2:13 PM #

    I knew a woman, when she have money she would dress in dirty clothes, an old hat, and worn out shoes. She would go and deposit money on her account. The reason she dress like that is because she didnt want people knowing she have money. The clerk would take the money, and say she deposited 400 dollars. The clerk would write on the receipt 4.00. The woman wont know the difference, because in her quest to trick people she dont have money. The clerk tricked her. That clerk must be had an expensive lunch, and a good shopping spree, thanks to this illeterate idiot, who took her daughter’s money she sent to pay for her land, and this woman let the bank clerk trick her

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  68. Hal Austin May 3, 2017 at 2:32 PM #

    Nanci,

    Insurance companies stealing from policyholders and people taking out policies and then surrendering them is a big insurance scam.
    In the business many insurers are measured by the number of new policies they write; while people surrendering policies do not get any returns.
    It is a scandal; but in a culture where civil servants are appointed as regulators and supervisors, while totally ignorant of the business, you would expect this.
    I still say we should look again at the Mutual so we can learn lessons. Motor insurers are also a big scam.
    Unlike life insurance, motor insurance is compelled by law; you cannot drive on the highway – or should not – while uninsured. It is like taking candy from a baby for these companies.
    We shout and scream, but wallow in our own ignorance. The is the Bajan style.

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