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Welcome, Prince Harry

Today’s Barbados Advocate editorial makes for interesting reading in light of Prince Harry’s visit next week

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Prince Harry

Prince Harry

We might be justly accused of being churlish hosts were we not to extend a warm Barbadian greeting to His Royal Highness, Prince Henry of Wales, familiarly known as Harry, on his visit to the island to represent Her Majesty in the celebrations for our fiftieth anniversary of Independence. Accordingly, we sincerely extend to the Prince a hearty welcome and a pleasant stay in these parts.

At the same time, however, his presence here reminds us of once more of our incongruent constitutional status; whereby even though we claim to be a sovereign nation and have indeed been so for the past fifty years, we continue to perpetuate the anomaly of retaining a foreign monarchy as the Head of State in the bloodline of the Royal Family of the United Kingdom. It is as if the declaration of Independence were merely a matter of acquiring a flag, a coat of arms and a national anthem and a Governor General [to replace the Governor] while we were content to abide by the former regime of governance.

This is Barbados after all. And it is not in our nature easily to accommodate change. So for the past half-century, apart from the objections of a relatively few, we have been content to permit the pre-Independence arrangements to subsist and to accord the highest constitutional office in our land not to a native but in tail to a foreign family.

It has not helped that the debate on this issue has been generally perceived in partisan political terms. Of course, we concede that such a reality is one of the incidents of our democracy, but it appears to us that whenever a governing administration proposes to alter the status quo, there arises a chorus of voices in partisan opposition, reminding the public of such quaint matters as the importance of UK tourism for the health of our economy, the exemplary graciousness of Her Majesty and our vulnerability to external aggression. To us, these smack rather as the cries of a mewling infant for its mother’s arms, rather than of the language of a mature individual ready to fend its way in the world.

We deduce from this reluctance to embrace a state of affairs whereby a native Barbadian might become Head of State, among other things, a certain Barbadian distaste for the elevation above him- or herself of anyone similarly placed as they are. Our attitude is reflected in the anecdote attributed to former Prime Minister and now national Hero, the Right Excellent Errol Barrow, that an individual could not have possibly written a book or achieved any similar distinction “because he used to live in we gap”.

So while we welcome the young Prince, we regret for more reasons than one that his visit had to be “official” rather than the “playing holiday” as referred to by his ancestor and namesake, Prince Hal, the future Henry V, in Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part I. Hal nevertheless counseled-

“If all the year were playing holidays,

To sport would be as tedious as to work…”

Indeed, we regret too that his visit as the representative of the British Monarch, his grandmother, should still be necessary at this time. Our socio-constitutional ethos does not admit of the notion that a mere accident of birth should attribute a superior status to any one individual or family.

It is time for a governing administration to “bell the cat” and to ensure that we do not arrive at our Independence centennial under the existing anomalous governance arrangement.

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50 Comments on “Welcome, Prince Harry”

  1. Dompey November 25, 2016 at 7:01 PM #

    David

    It must not be forgotten that Great Britain did not obtained the island of Barbados through the legal channels, and that the blacks who now constitutes the majority on the chain of islands which constitutes the Caribbean archipelago were brought to the islands against their will. So if you’re saying that our unpaid labour entitle us to the island of Barbados then I would somewhat agree, but don’t you think that the descendants of the two native Indian tribes who were here before the white man and and the black man are entitled to the island of Barbados because these people are the rightful owners?

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  2. Well Well & Consequences November 25, 2016 at 7:04 PM #

    Let’s hope the clowns in parliament dont embarass themselves as Gaston Brown, prime minister of Antigua did by trying to pimp out the island to Harry, it’s very clear from the look on his face after the Brown tackiness that if he does not treat this Caribbean tour as a vacation, it will become even clearer that it’s the punishment it’s meant to be…lol

    ACs….try not to kill Harry with ya asskissing..lol

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  3. Well Well & Consequences November 25, 2016 at 7:10 PM #

    Jeez…Dompey, do you know where the descendants of those native indian tribes are, none of them live in Barbados, many are scattered throughout the Caribbean and other places, but most of them can be found in Central America, Belize, a bread basket….why in hell would they even want to identify with Barbados, the dumb leaders or the social mess that is now Barbados.

    The majority of any country rules that country, Barbados is now a black majority country. ..do the math.

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  4. Exclaimer November 25, 2016 at 7:31 PM #

    @ David,

    Apologies off message:

    Could you please ask your legal expert – Jeff Cumberbach – to look into the subject matter below. Yes, this government appears to be mismanaging the Barbados economy. However, i have always sensed that it is doing so under duress. Take a look at the link below.

    “The obscure legal system that lets corporations sue countries

    Fifty years ago, an international legal system was created to protect the rights of foreign investors. Today, as companies win billions in damages, insiders say it has got dangerously out of control”……………..

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/10/obscure-legal-system-lets-corportations-sue-states-ttip-icsid

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  5. Dompey November 25, 2016 at 7:35 PM #

    Well Well

    A good friend of mine who used to live in Barbados during the 1970s and is now back in Dominica is a descendant of the Carib Indian.

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  6. Well Well & Consequences November 25, 2016 at 7:46 PM #

    Did I not say they are scattered throughout the Caribbean and elsewhere Dompey, many of us are descended from the Native Indians of the Caribbean and have also imherited bloodlines from other groups, what Vincent refers to as the pelaus.

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  7. Hants November 25, 2016 at 7:47 PM #

    It is ironic that me, PUDRYR, Bushie and David know that Harry don’t want to be in Barbados unless they can sneak Meghan into the island.

    If we had real real leaders we would be a republic all like now.

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  8. Violet C Beckles November 25, 2016 at 7:48 PM #

    Treat him like any other half white Tourist, he seems to be a nice person , no fanfare .

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  9. Well Well & Consequences November 25, 2016 at 7:52 PM #

    More the reason why struggling resource rich countries should never do business with multinational corporations who end up robbing the vulnerable countries of their wealth one way or the other, keep foreign companies out as much as possible…when will they learn that stealing has always been an industry for industrialized countries.

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  10. Gabriel November 25, 2016 at 9:07 PM #

    WW&C
    What you mean is that stealing has always been the modus operandi of the ethnic group called white and it continues to this day

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  11. David November 25, 2016 at 9:42 PM #

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  12. pieceuhderockyeahright November 25, 2016 at 11:29 PM #

    @ Hants,

    “How you good self?”

    Ammmmm de ole man likes “more bounce to the ounce” if you get my drift (see the Honourable Blogmaster’s representative clothed in the Grenadian flag elsewhere) so Megan and Melania aint going make it.

    De ole man also will go on record to say that all of the notable BU Pan Africanists and “de white amn is the spawn of the devil” proselyters WILL BE NOTICEABLY ABSENT from this debate fearful that, should they comment about a living breathing representative of the Queen Mother, they will incur the arath of the various authorities once their commentary is reported by “the resident BU policeman and supporter of the Demons”

    You will all know who that is given the response that will be soon forthcoming.

    By the way, de ole man notes that ammmmmmm certain “pyrotechnically incompetent” denizens read people who burn down their house WHILE SLEEPING have now become a staple here on BU.

    What is happening?

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  13. exclaimer November 26, 2016 at 1:56 AM #

    So long Fidel. The world will miss you greatly.

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  14. Well Well & Consequences November 26, 2016 at 4:50 AM #

    Yes Gabriel, it’s how the white group has managed to survive for centuries, stealing from others is their survival kit.

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  15. Well Well & Consequences November 26, 2016 at 4:55 AM #

    http://ow.ly/Qf0q306xpO7

    A true legend and real independ soul, who knew the true meaning of independence. .

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  16. Dompey November 26, 2016 at 6:47 AM #

    Piece/ old man

    Don’t talk about the Queen’s mother unless it is done with a measure of discontent because when the old broad died at a 105, it was reported here on the evening news that she held a pathological hatred for black folk.

    But apart from that how you doing old man? I was getting frighten becausing I thought you was on yah way tah de Great Beyond when I dan see yah hear on BU for yah little while. But Bush Tea hear licking he mout on BU one dat yah little pension didn’t come in so yah couldn’t pay fah yah iPod bill and dat is why yah wasn’t on BU.

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  17. ac November 26, 2016 at 6:54 AM #

    Castro dead

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/26/americas/fidel-castro-obit/index.html

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  18. Dompey November 26, 2016 at 7:05 AM #

    Prince Philip the biggest racist of all asked a black British politician which of the exotic places in the world he came. And on a trip to China Prince Philip lamented: if you stay in China too long you would leaved slitty-eyed.

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  19. Well Well & Consequences November 26, 2016 at 7:15 AM #

    http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2016/11/26/no-more-free-pass/

    A chance missed 50 years ago by black leaders happy to get away from colonialists with useless titles and dependency, nothing has changed 50 years later, nothing, the leaders are still nit proactive, focused, forward thinking, they have no vision on how to turn those tables……

    …… and they still relish and seek dependency….. the success of high levels of programming, still at play..

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  20. lawson November 26, 2016 at 7:33 AM #

    So lets see you have one horse and you want to go to town but you insist on riding it backwards. You have to pander to the brits they are your tourism lifeline even more so today with castro gone. You may feel you have kept your dignity waiting for a barrell at the dock, or be the barrell accept that life isnt fair and be that conduit for change on the island vote for a white guy to run things

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  21. lawson November 26, 2016 at 7:41 AM #

    The queens mother’s funeral some of the most stirring piping. Glamis castle and some gin and tonics great way to spend an afternoon

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  22. Well Well & Consequences November 26, 2016 at 8:16 AM #

    Lawson…you do not want some white mentally defective idiot as prime minister in Barbados..

    Unless it’s the fair minded Justin of course…lol

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  23. lawson November 26, 2016 at 9:05 AM #

    white mentally defective idiot as prime minister….welcome to my life… no I was hoping for better for ewe , instead of a black belly running you sheeple I wanted something new not the old mutton that has been hanging around for years who would pull the wool over your eyes and ram it too you. Some one who could shepherd you in the direction of growth. With castro’s death the wolf will soon be at the door.

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  24. Well Well & Consequences November 26, 2016 at 9:17 AM #

    You really have it in for Justin…lol

    All politicians are wolves who collude with each other. The problem with the ministers in Barbados is one of mental weakness, it does not appear the others in the Caribbean are much better, they never matured mentally, but you do not want any minority in Barbados governing, they have for decades already created the present mess by being corrupters, bribers and manipulators of the past and present fools in both political parties. The people will be much too vulnerable which will create an eventual backlash when the continue their halfassed, small island racism and classism, you never allow a minority who lack basic intelligence and fair mindedness to govern a majority country, …….you will experience echoes of 1937.

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  25. Exclaimer November 26, 2016 at 9:38 AM #

    @ David,

    “…..stealing from others is their survival kit (white people).” Never has a truer word been spoken.

    I am certain that JC and the very green and naïve Alicia Nicholls (Caribbean Trade Law and Development) are familiar with this obscene, and opaque legal system that puts into peril the concept of the nation state. Those in the know should be alerting their citizens of the perils of doing business with foreign corporations.

    I am certain that there must be a correlation between our rapid decline as a nation and our commitment to open world trade agreements.

    @ Piece,
    Keep your chin up.
    You’ve done your piece.
    It’s time for others to do theirs.

    I’ve just been witnessing some dumb-arsed white Cubans in Miami celebrating with extreme vigour the death of the great Fidel Castro. What idiots!

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  26. Exclaimer November 26, 2016 at 9:40 AM #

    Lawson appears to have fallen of the wagon.

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  27. Frothy Mouth November 26, 2016 at 10:45 AM #

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  28. Frothy Mouth November 26, 2016 at 10:47 AM #

    Why we spend money to fete colonist many going to bed hungry. Oh Jackasses and Jennyasses seem so rampant in the Caribbean we should patent ignorance.

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  29. David November 26, 2016 at 11:07 AM #

    @Exclaimer

    Alicia is a good young Bajan professional who is tapped into global affairs should be so glad to have her.

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  30. Reco Anthony November 26, 2016 at 11:40 AM #

    READING SOME OF THESE COMMENTS MAKES ME GO HEHEHEHE, HAHAHAHAHAHA, LISTEN DE WHITES DON’T HAVE TO RUN PARLIAMENT OR BIM, THE NEW WHITE NIGGERS IN PARLIAMENT DOING AH GOOD JOB FOR THEM…LOOK AT THE BIG MOUTH CONTRACTS THAT WAS GIVEN OUT(SHADY DEALS) LOOK AT THE 5 OR 6 FACES ALWAYS SHOWING UP..ANY BLACK FACES? NOW TO THE HARRY, HARRY AN HIS PARLIAMENT OF NEW WHITE NIGGERS WILL HAVE AH WONDERFUL TIME, WHILE WE HAVE TO SIT BACK AND CONTEMPLATE OUR FUTURE. THE FACT THAT BIM IS DOWN ON ITS BELLY MEANS NOTHING TO MANY, AFTER THIS MASSIVE FETE WHAT NEXT?…SO 50TH DEPENDENCE (LATTER STAGES) ANTHEM,PLEDGE, MARCHES, BROKEN TRIDENT, ETC.ETC CAN KISS MY…B.S.R.H.C.

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  31. Piece Uh De ROck Yeah Right - INRI November 26, 2016 at 11:52 AM #

    I wonder wher David Commisiong is?

    With Fidel Castro gone one would believe that he would have been on the ofrefront of praise for this fallen warrior but i guess that there is still tomorrow where one can graft an adequate eulogy for BU et al while we suffer through Harry and Rule Britania

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  32. Hants November 26, 2016 at 12:08 PM #

    @ Piece Uh De ROck Yeah Right,

    Fidel Castro prevented Cuba from becoming the ( best ?) Tourist Island in the Caribbean.

    Cuba was well on its way to becoming the best Gambling resort and Whorehouse in the Caribbean.

    Cuba would have been a combination Las Vegas / Thailand.

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  33. chad99999 November 26, 2016 at 12:32 PM #

    Like it or not, most people in the Caribbean continue to love their British masters and want to feel that they are part of a Commonwealth led by the Royal Family.

    The latest evidence for this comes from Grenada where the voters have just rejected a proposal to replace the UK Privy Council with the Caribbean Court of Justice.

    In fact, all talk of severing constitutional ties with London is silly. Our legal system, our government, and most of our governing ideas are borrowed from the UK.

    We are too stupid to think for ourselves on these big questions. When you don’t have the brains for self-government …

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  34. mitchlans November 26, 2016 at 1:31 PM #

    Any word from the DLP & Sycophants Ball held at the old queen’s house last night?

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  35. David November 26, 2016 at 1:48 PM #

    Prime Minister’s ball

    By Davandra Babb on Nov 26, 2016 11:08 am

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    Barbadians from near and far celebrated last night in grand style at the Prime Minister’s Dinner and Ball, one of the highlights of the country’s 50th anniversary of independence celebrations. Held at the Prime Minister’s official residence, Ilaro Court, under the theme ‘One Golden Moment In Time, A Celebration of Excellence,’ the dinner and ball […]

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  36. Well Well & Consequences November 26, 2016 at 3:50 PM #

    I gotta agree, it’s stupidy, lack of knowledge and sleazy politicians who mislead a population who did not research what they were voting for, most Grenadians would not do the necessary research that would help them understand why they needed those 7 important amendments to their constitution for their personal progress and that of generations of future Grenadians, out of 70,000 only 25, 000 voted…..and they would much prefer listen to lying politicians for their information anyway.

    Bad move, they will remain in the 1950s for another 50 years….another hundred years of stagnation.

    The people of the Caribbean are going nowhere fast, regressing at top speed.

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  37. David November 26, 2016 at 3:58 PM #

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  38. Well Well & Consequences November 26, 2016 at 5:03 PM #

    I am surprised that Leroy Parris Fruendel’s friend, as well as Peter Harris, Parris’ business partner and sidekick were not also honorees, what about Mark Maloney, ya would think the thieves, other conmen and parasites would be pimping for honors for their thievery, commanding a whole section for themselves.

    Ada Straughn deserves her honor.

    ACs…ah know yall would have had to be pimping around that dinner, ya can’t help yaselves…where is your honor…lol

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  39. Reco Anthony November 26, 2016 at 5:34 PM #

    YES THE PEOPLE OF BIM VOTE FOR FOOMS AN HE LATIN WORDS…”.POLI IN LATIN MEANS..MANY,…. AN TICS MEANING BLOODSUCKING CREATURES…….@ WELL WELL FROOMS IS AN ASS PERIOD, BUT TO PUT IN PARRIS AN THAT ILK WOULD REALLY LOOK BAD, BUT HE STILL PUT IN ONE, CAN U SPOT HIM?

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  40. Exclaimer November 26, 2016 at 6:32 PM #

    “Welcome to the Caribbean, Prince Harry. Will you dare speak out about slavery?”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/21/carribean-prince-harry-slavery-slave-trade-meghan-markle-royalty

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  41. Sunshine Sunny Shine November 26, 2016 at 7:14 PM #

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  42. Hopi November 26, 2016 at 8:27 PM #

    De ole sidewinder crawled out from under a rock to talk smack.

    Please, please don’t ‘bell the cat’

    Oh Solon! Solon! ye Greeks are always children ( in need of mother’s milk)

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  43. Well Well & Consequences November 26, 2016 at 8:28 PM #

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/90135/tougher-measures

    After all the wukkig up ad big dinners..

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  44. Well Well & Consequences November 26, 2016 at 8:34 PM #

    I sure did RecoAnthony…they are planning to beg Bizzy for campaign financing and Bizzy is planning to bribe them in exchange for taxpayer contracts, they do not want to break that cycle, but social media will be relentless.

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  45. Well Well & Consequences November 26, 2016 at 8:41 PM #

    Do not expect any apologies fronm the racist beast of buckingham palace Liz Windsor, a beast will always be a beast.

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  46. Well Well & Consequences November 27, 2016 at 8:58 AM #

    http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2016/11/27/top-barbadian-educator-passes-away/

    Matthew Farley.

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  47. Piece Uh De ROck Yeah Right - INRI November 27, 2016 at 10:20 AM #

    T’would be smack for some of you as long as we do not lick the ass of the master.

    Self Determination by wunna niggers is never an option cause for such to ensue wunna would have to grow a pair.

    @ Hants

    Thailand is a rollicking whore house and Las Vegas is the aesthetically permissable manifestation of the Mafia.

    But , and in so commencing this sentence one has broken the cardinal rule, for there to be any desire for self determination among the niggers shuch would mean anarchy and, as Thomas Sankara found out in Volte now Burkina Faso, that is the mark of death.

    Isn’t that such an anomaly of gargantuan proportion?

    In one breath some of wunna does promote the “why dont all you blacks go back to africa where wunna come from” and, incredulously, wunna does come to us monkeys, in africa, the same place you want us to return to and rape us for the plentitude of resources under our earth, AND WILL ASSASSINATE THE ONES OF US, the Sankaras, the Lumumbas, and even the attempt thusly with the Fidels WHO WISH SELF ENFRANCHISEMENT!!!

    How many of you have been to Cuba? Recently?

    The problem is that a revolution say that of the United States of America, or Russia, or France, or China, they get to fashion the Story which the world sees and by which it is embellished a la 1776 Independence Charter or Magna Carta but, for poor ole Cuba any non caucasian visionary is called a butcher by election machine hackers and it becomes wunna gospel

    ….not having in your souls a single ancient opinion received through tradition from antiquity. .. being beings as we are devoid of any inventiveness or innovation other that being able to pucker our lips inventively to such the pooches of princes at our LLaro courts

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  48. de pedantic Dribbler November 27, 2016 at 11:00 AM #

    @Piece Uh De ROck Yeah Right – INRI November 27, 2016 at 10:20 AM …that is a rather lop-sided piece.

    The issue with Fidel or (Sankarra) is not the colour of their skin but rather the colour of the heart and soul. Stalin was ‘crucified’ as a depot and butcher. He had the same colour heart and soul. Different outer covering.

    They are all acolytes of the mantra “… that a man who wants to act virtuously in every way necessarily comes to grief among so many who are not virtuous.”

    Having taken leadership they could have pivoted east, west or in-between to maintain a different ‘existentialism’.

    We don’t condemn them for those they killed (because that is the currency of any strong leader) but we can condemn them for policies which maintained THEIR self-enfranchisement to eternity. When they were born all sentient ideas on governance and leadership did not revert to them completely.

    Surely hail their ‘virtues’ but in a world lacking virtuous men we can be reminded that “Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil.”….not much to do with ‘Self Determination by wunna niggers’ on that point really.

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  49. Hopi November 27, 2016 at 8:07 PM #

    @Pieceofde………I’ll address u directly since I don’t play virtual games. Just saw ur post @ 10:20am. I support an individual that you didn’t (as if ur support mattered at all) and I’m a nigger who needs ts for self-determination? Old man ur stupidity is mind-blowing.You’ve just proven urself to be an ass. Whatever virtual respect I had for you has now been deleted. Bang!

    If u wanted Hillary rotten clinton to be the next POTUS, why didn’t u get a boat load of ur ilk, come to DC and let Obama know that u come to support HRC.

    What do you know about self-determination living on an island whose life-blood is contingent on external factors. Self-determination for me is signing my own pay cheque do you sign yours? And I don’t need any flaccid organs to do that.

    When persons like you understand how the affairs of this world are conducted, then maybe you could influence my decisions. But from where you sit that’s virtually impossible.

    Ole man u r domiciled in a vitreous place so piss off!

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