Denis Lowe, minister of the environment

Denis Lowe Struggles to Implement a Waste-to-Energy Solution Late in a Second Term

Submitted by Anthony Davis
Denis Lowe, Minister of the Drainage

Denis Lowe, Minister of the Drainage

The Cahill project may be a thing of the past, but the Freundel Stuart administration has not abandoned the idea of a waste-to-energy plant on the island.In fact, Minister of the Environment Dr. Denis Lowe warned that Barbados ‘cannot fully develop without the inclusion of waste-to-energy technology’, as he piloted a resolution on the Barbados Green Economy Scoping Study in ParliamentBarbados TODAY dated October 25, 2016

Once again someone in this Government is trying to lay the blame for his dilemma on the populace of this country. When they wanted to hike the water rates Minister Kellman came up with the flimsy excuse that the populace used the most water in the island, whereas it’s evident that the hotels especially, use the most water. Other businesses, and Government also use a lot of water.

Pray, tell me Mr. Minister, did you not read the “Burnside Mangrove Pond Green Energy Complex & Beautification Programme and Environmental Impact Assessment Outline Review TCDPO Ref: 1123/07/2013C” which you should have received re the Cahill Waste-to-energy plant?

It states at 4.1:

Waste Generation and Disposal Requirements
Waste generation is closely linked to population, though for Barbados, tourism contributes a disproportionate quantity of waste. A rule-of-thumb is that each tourist generates roughly three times the waste of a local person in the same period of time.

If we take as an example that 50,000 tourists came to Barbados in any given year, how much waste would they have generated as opposed to 50, 000 locals?

I didn’t go to university so I need you to do the math for me.

Why do you single out the businesses – especially the restaurants – to put on the pranger?

What tax do you want to call this one?

The business tax?

I guess the businesses -including the restaurants, already pay heavy taxes, except they are one of those belonging to Sandals which doesn’t pay any taxes and won’t be doing so for years to come.

You can fleece the indigenous businesses and the rest of the populace, but you can waiver the taxes for some foreign entity, and in the meantime renege on your promise to give the other hotels of the BHTA the same sweetheart deal you gave to Sandals with the stroke of a pen.

Which type of waste-to-energy plant are you planning for Barbados, Mr. Minister?

Under 2) Gasification, of the said Burnside report it states:

Several waste gasification processes have been proposed, but few have yet been built and tested, and only a handful have been implemented as plants processing real waste, and mostly in combination with fossil fuels.

Wouldn’t such a plant produce more environmental pollution than we already have?

What made you lash out at some of your Government’s favourite people?

Have they stepped out of line?

Won’t you have to depend on them some time again?

Where are the anti-environmental pollution laws which you promised us for this year, Mr. Minister?

“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” – Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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74 Comments on “Denis Lowe Struggles to Implement a Waste-to-Energy Solution Late in a Second Term”

  1. Pachamama November 2, 2016 at 5:47 AM #

    How is it that this person could still be seen as serious?

    How is it possible that Dennis Lowe could be anywhere near the locus of political power?

    Why is it not possible for people to look into his face and see a puerile mind incapable of doing anything other than play childish political games with the people?

    How is it not possible for people to gleam that Dennis Lowe is merely seeking a fat payday for services to certain elements within the corporate community?

    And if our long standing instincts are correct, why is this miscreant still able to operationalize projects not primarily in the national interests?

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  2. WHAT-A-MESS November 2, 2016 at 7:16 AM #

    How is it possible that this government has not been thrown out of office by the populace. In any other country with spunk, the people would demand they call an election immediately and then get them to hell out. Something is better than nothing. So get them out and put in the other party, even if it is to show both these parties that if they do a whole set of nonsense, the people will throw them out as quick as you can pucker up your mouth to whistle. Complaining on social media and blogs cannot do the trick. So just insist they get the hell out before they ruin what little is left of the island. The world is laughing at us as we drown in a quagmire of foolishness on a daily basis. Foolishness that makes them rich. Pensions? They do not deserve to stay in office in order to collect their pensions. Maybe they could get that off of Mr Parris instead. Idiots. Not one of them can be called a true proud Barbadian. Disgrace is the only word that comes to mind and no, I do not belong to any particular party, I vote for the party that does what they promised to do, and if they do not, I marching with those strong and fearless enough to insist they return from whence they came, on the other side of those benches they have also brought into disrepute every time they open their mouths. Shame. Shame. Shame.

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  3. hamilton hill November 2, 2016 at 7:28 AM #

    Dennis Lowe is not in any way struggling to implement any waste to energy solution. Dennis Lowe is a member of a Cabinet that has grown confident in the knowledge that we have gained the status of A Bewitched Brood of Bajans. Michael Carrington was caught with his hands stuck in the cookie jar, after de lotta long talk what happened? Not a damn thing.Two ministers in an obvious conflict of interest posing bout in big rides…. lotta long talk and then what? Not a damn thing. The prime minister and the same Dennis Lowe looked directly into the tv camera and lied to this nation in relation to CAHILL….lotta long talk and then what? Not a damn thing. Watch how the proverbial bone thrown Fat child’s way suddenly disappears, as some revered White Shadow makes a killing off the backs of the masses. The black man’s thrash is the white man’s treasure as far as this cabinet is concerned…There will be a lotta long talk and then what? Not a damn thing will happen.Why is that? We have developed the status of A Brood Of Bewitched Bajans.

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  4. Bush Tea November 2, 2016 at 7:39 AM #

    @ Pacha
    How is it possible….?

    With brass bowls, ..all kinds of shiite are possible…

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  5. Walter Blackman November 2, 2016 at 7:43 AM #

    Pachamama November 2, 2016 at 5:47 AM #

    “How is it not possible for people to gleam that Dennis Lowe is merely seeking a fat payday………?”

    Pachamamum,
    This is a very important topic, so, as an avid reader of BU contributions, I want to make sure that I can follow and understand all arguments being presented.

    Can you please write a few more words to help elucidate or illuminate your question, as quoted above?

    I thank you in advance for handling my request like a scholar and a gentleman.

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  6. Bush Tea November 2, 2016 at 8:02 AM #

    @ Walter
    Is this a smart move by you to get Pacha to document the multitude of shiite deposited on Barbados by this idiot …. so that you can make some internal case?

    We know you too well to even contemplate the possibility that you do not know EXACTLY what Pacha is speaking about….

    Obviously then, you have ulterior, high-level motives.

    You were warned about the level of COMPROMISE that would be required when you align yourself with the devil. Do not look to BU to fight your internal battles…. cuss the damn man’s ass up front …just as you know IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
    …and let the chips fall where they may.

    What Pacha what??!!
    If you have gone into the den like Daniel, then start pelting some lashes in the thieving lions’ asses…

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  7. ac November 2, 2016 at 8:10 AM #

    Another litany of crticism which all have gotten use to.
    How about penning a more sensible article Mr. Davis detailing causes and solutions for the growing waste problem which is not going to get better
    Wasted time spitting the same political garbage can be well spent being actively involved with the penning of sensible thoughts and ideas.
    The reason we are back to square on on this issue is mostly because many in this society would seize any opportunity to spew fear and doom out of an interest geared towards themselves.
    The positive evidence of WTE plants are well known as many have been built with a proven record of safety
    Because govt buckled under pressure by these neo conservative enviromentalist activist does not eliminate facts that our waste problem would become unmanageable as our population becomes larger and business expansion becomes a necessary part of our landscape in creating more waste
    This knee jerk reaction to progress would not help our country but take society back to the dark ages and out of easy grasp of modern day technology like a patient who refuses to seek the necessary proactive treatment and only resorts for remedial help on the death bed

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  8. Walter Blackman November 2, 2016 at 8:42 AM #

    Bush Tea November 2, 2016 at 8:02 AM #
    @ Walter
    “You were warned about the level of COMPROMISE that would be required when you align yourself with the devil. Do not look to BU to fight your internal battles…. ”

    Bush Tea,
    I aligned myself with (joined) the DLP in 1985 before Tom Adams’ death. Can you name one person who warned me about any level of compromise that would be required back then?I spoke on the DLP platform all over Barbados in 1986. Never once did I hear anybody refer to the DLP as “the devil”.

    I look to BU to provide me with education and entertainment, and I appreciate the effort that BU makes in both areas.

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  9. chad99999 November 2, 2016 at 8:49 AM #

    The level of political discourse on this blog needs to be raised.

    It is understood, even by dunces, that there is little point in replacing this government if the only alternative is just as bad, or worse. We need to propose ways of improving the performance if the entire political class, and that begins with sober, serious and sustained criticism of public policy decisions.

    We don’t get a lot of that on BU. For example, why would anyone fault the government for offering income tax incentives to Sandals? Because of its size and financial success, Sandals is doing more for the island’s vusibility than any other hotel. In most North American cities, the only TV and newspaper ads featuring Barbados are Sandals ads.

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  10. Bush Tea November 2, 2016 at 8:50 AM #

    Don’t play daft Walter.
    No one is talking about 1985. This is 2016.
    DLP shiite!!!
    DLP1985 and DLP2016 is chalk and cheese.

    After taking an independent PRINCIPLED stand on BU that stood ABOVE partisan politics …and which rightly criticised DLP shiite…. you opted to join with the shiite-hounds and now speak with an air of compromise that now belies your BU persona.

    Caswell was a B
    Come-and-sing was a B, D, P, C
    …and Bushie was a BB ….before adoption too…

    You have CHOSEN to return to the mud….
    let us see how you plan to clean up the sty…

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  11. Walter Blackman November 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM #

    Bush Tea November 2, 2016 at 8:02 AM #
    “@ Walter
    If you have gone into the den like Daniel, then start pelting some lashes in the thieving lions’ asses…”

    Bush Tea,
    If we intelligently view Barbados as “the den”, then all of us ought to be Daniels. So what is preventing us from “pelting some lashes in the thieving lions’ asses…”?
    Do we have an insurmountable difficulty in identifying the lions? Are the lions masquerading as Daniels? Are some of the Daniels really thieving lions? Are some of us just anxiously waiting for the call to join the thieving pride?

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  12. David November 2, 2016 at 9:41 AM #

    @Walter

    Have a read of Roy Morris’ column, don’t take BU’s word alone.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/88676/public-confusion-dr-lowe > >

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  13. Bush Tea November 2, 2016 at 9:46 AM #

    LOL @ Walter
    What a response….!!!

    Skippa, don’t fool yuhself….. you GOOD as shiite hear?
    ANY political party would be lucky to have you….
    Pity it has to be the party of brass bowl clowns…

    The DLP is the single largest collection of Bajan Brass Bowl Idjuts since the “Ossie and Carl Moore convention”.
    Imagine a party where AC is the seer…?
    LOL ha ha ha
    Oh shiite !!!!
    …and AC actually is more coherent, AND BELIEVABLE, than ANY of the ministers….

    How the donkey are you going help them?
    You could raise Lazarus….?

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  14. David November 2, 2016 at 9:57 AM #

    Imagine Ronald Jones who is responsible for the Alexandra debacle shouting in the parliament about partisan politics as it relates to the private partnership between private waste haulers and government. Do these people take us for fools? He is standing in parliament answering to a Speaker who was found to be quilty of witholding $200,000 from a 70 year old client. And his collegue dares to raise the issue of morality being an issue come the next election.

    #wellspitinwalterspocket

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  15. Pachamama November 2, 2016 at 10:13 AM #

    Bushie

    Walter Blackman maybe making the long-term political calculation that in the blind man’s land the one-eyed man is king.

    Meaning that he maybe angling to be the only man left standing after the gang of thieves and criminals is decimated by the electorate, next election.

    Playing the king’s gambit – to use a term from chess. LOL

    We however do not estimate that he could avoid the public’s ire.

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  16. ac November 2, 2016 at 10:40 AM #

    Facts
    Today there are more than 2,200 WTE plants activr worlwide more than 250plants were constructed between 2010 and 2014
    An additional 550 plants to begin construction by 2024. However barbadians becomes lords of the games knowing it all but having nothing worthwhile to be players in the game
    There is a bragadocious attitude of some wanting to implant hardened views that are topsy tury and contradictory to our modern times going against the grain of facts and evidence

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  17. Bush Tea November 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM #

    @ AC
    Today there are more than 2,200 WTE plants activr worlwide more than 250plants were constructed between 2010 and 2014
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    These may indeed be facts…

    Can you ALSO tell us how many bare-faced, thieving, low-minded bribe taking, CAHILL-LIKE schemes have been uncovered …WITHOUT a single fellow going to prison?
    …just the facts.

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  18. Well Well & Consequences November 2, 2016 at 12:00 PM #

    This government has to be removed, it’s blighting the country.

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  19. Anonymouse - TheGazer November 2, 2016 at 12:16 PM #

    @ac
    Bushie gave you an easy pass.
    But I would like to know your source and the types of WTE plants.
    I belive Cahill was a plasma gasification plant (PGP). How many are PGP plants?

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  20. ac November 2, 2016 at 12:43 PM #

    Bushie none so far that i have heard ..so far all the plants that are up and running have been legit with no reason or cause for those living in close proximity of these plants to fan the flames of fear and doom or sow the seeds of deceit.
    Unfortunately we in barbados will remain stuck in a quadmire of self contentment till we free our minds from the shackels of self loathing having an impressionable belief that we know it all

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  21. ac November 2, 2016 at 12:48 PM #

    You talk about plasma gastification like it is an unknown to scientific technology.
    The dam thing has been use in generating power to space technology.
    It is a proven and safer way to gererating electricity and safe and friendly to the enviroment

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  22. ac November 2, 2016 at 1:02 PM #

    Facts

    There are more than 272 operating gastification plants worldwide with 686 gasifiers.Currently there are an additional 74 plants under construction world wide
    The Usa has 33 plants already built and up and running.
    At any given time day or night bajans rather be misled than be lead great going folks there is always a time to play catch up …but at a very high pricr

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  23. David November 2, 2016 at 1:22 PM #

    Like your mate Dompey your head is so hard.

    Why did the government discontinue Cahill do you recall?

    The issue was scale, there was no gasification plant built anywhere to the same scale as the one proposed for a tiny 2*4 island at Vaucluse with zero environmental safeguards.

    #JA

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  24. Vincent Haynes November 2, 2016 at 1:23 PM #

    Hmmm……looks like the wicket is being rolled for the re-introduction of the plasma gasification plant and I wonder what part the SSAs 20M will play in the preparation?

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  25. Watchman November 2, 2016 at 2:16 PM #

    What happening to Walter PPK Blackman, he is seeking help to follow and understand, please help the man Bush Tea

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  26. Peltdownman November 2, 2016 at 2:55 PM #

    It’s pretty clear that there’s no money for the boys in separation and re-cycling, otherwise we would have started it a long time ago. This is a government that allows matters to get out of hand and then chooses the most expensive solution, like $20 million for 17 garbage trucks. I guess they must be BMW or Mercedes garbage trucks, fully loaded. As for tourists generating 3 times more garbage than Bajans, give me a break! Most of the litter is thrown out into places tourists don’t go. Any other garbage related to tourists would be that generated by hotels, and most of that would be compostable food waste. Instead of looking after the country’s finances, the boys are fattening-up the calf for the final meal.

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  27. ac November 2, 2016 at 3:15 PM #

    No govt bowed under pressure. There is nothing that on any scale given the metrics and specification that technology cannot resolve on a small or large scale. Pressure.. pressure and not readily prepared was the govt failure

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  28. ac November 2, 2016 at 3:24 PM #

    David enough of your silly insults jas.p barbadians are tired of you obstructionist.

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  29. David November 2, 2016 at 3:27 PM #

    If the report is correct the tourists account for a high % of the garbage it should be a quick fix at source because it is a controlled environment.

    We can’t boast of wanting to achieve #1 green economy status in the southern hemisphere and we are unable to pick up and dispose of waste efficiently.

    >

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  30. David November 2, 2016 at 3:29 PM #

    Your hignorance hath no bounds.

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  31. Pachamama November 2, 2016 at 3:55 PM #

    @ David

    You should know by now that if even God came and told AC the truth, lies according to the DLP would always be preferred. LOL

    She loves the DLP so much that their every bad act or omission will always be remembered something good.

    Should somebody like this be permitted to prevent food from soiling, without limits?

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  32. ac November 2, 2016 at 5:04 PM #

    not a matter of loving any one party ,but have u ever noticed that in the past fifty years when dlp govts lay out plans for the progression of barbados that the blp obstructionist are always out in full force ..makes it hard for anyone to take their opposition to any issue seriously, i cannot remember any one thing of great significant that the blp and their operatives has given unilateral support to any dlp govt especially on those issues that would help the poor or overall society , truthfully cannot remember but this i remember lot of long talk and plenty threats
    so yes on most of the dlp issues i a willing to give support especially when a necessary solution is needed with urgency and where the matter would impact the lives of a nation. Now pachaman you can crawled back into your little cocoon and make love to whomever pleases your lifestyle

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  33. Well Well & Consequences November 2, 2016 at 6:02 PM #

    http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2016/11/02/privatization-not-off-the-table-says-sinckler/

    Can none of them be consistent, who do they think they are confusing or fooling.

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  34. Kammie M Holder November 2, 2016 at 10:47 PM #

    Dr Denis Lowe as a sick man decision making will be self serving and therefore every move he makes must be suspect. How could Dr Denis Lowe behave so carefree and insulting. ..

    Freundel Stuart as Prime Minister has shown no interest in reigning in Dr Denis Lowe and seems only interested in the Prime Ministership. If he had only spent one day as prime minister, history would have still recoded him as a prime minister.

    Prime Minister Stuart has squandered the political mandate and will never be seen by history as a Prime Minister who put country before party. Erskine Sandiford did when he sacrificed himself. A total let down, many persons believed Mr Stuart would have been a political massiah for Barbados.

    Will the BLP bring better governance, transparency and integrity? Unfortunately, the BLP will do nothing more than ride on the wagons of Morality, Integrity Governance and Transparency. Both the DLP and BLP have concentrated the wealth in the hands of a few families. Until we look at proper campaign financing laws that are enforced by a legislated non partisan body we can expect money to buy influence even when its not in the best interest of company.

    It now seems that many are gravitating to politics for the finders fees which on a recently touted project was 19% on a $458M project.. No longer is country`s interest placed before party financiers.

    @AC do get a message to Dr Denis Lowe that he needs meet with Paul Bynoe of B`s Recycling and discuss provision of a letter of comfort. Mr Bynoe will be within his right to share his story of riches to rags should his business folds and it would be a best seller the world over.

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  35. Kammie M Holder November 2, 2016 at 10:57 PM #

    Our only hope is that the greedy fleece or break some US law. I am a betting man that we will see a body snatch for money laundering in the very near future.

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  36. Vincent Haynes November 3, 2016 at 1:00 PM #

    Kammie M Holder November 2, 2016 at 10:47 PM #

    Could you tell us if B’s recycling metal section is closed?

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  37. Kammie M Holder November 3, 2016 at 5:29 PM #

    @Vincent Haynes, AC the DLP public defender can best answer, Sorry.. Mr Bynoe direct number is 246-438-9285. To say Bs Recycling was screwd without vaseline would be an undertatement, The announcement of Bs Recycling approval was delayed deliberately by the powers that be to coincide with the signing of another Waste To Energy agreement.

    The modus operandi is for one party to sign off and commit and the other party to be bound by the agreement if the government changes,
    What do you call that other that political prostitution of the highest order by the political parties of Barbados. SBRC and Ionics Barbados were both projects signed off on by the BLP and built by DLP.

    How did we get in such a quagmire?

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  38. HAMILTON A HILL November 3, 2016 at 5:58 PM #

    Wunna realize that Dr Dennis Lowe just like dat person we know as Dr GP both refer to themselves as devout Christians? Wunna ready to agree that we will sooner see a ghost than a Christian? Dennis Lowe boy I starting to wonder if warm blood flows through your veins……
    You and that pastoral style represent nothing but a mockery where the elderly Bajan is concerned. Your cohorts aint much use, but mam oh man…..you deadly fa real!

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  39. Vincent Haynes November 3, 2016 at 6:12 PM #

    Kammie M Holder November 3, 2016 at 5:29 PM #

    Thanks,you have answered my question……a very sad state of affairs….one wonders at times about their thinking i.e.solid waste tax and forcing the closure of Bs……then having the guts to wonder why the gullies are full of garbage and so many old cars around the island…….unfortunately they will not learn.

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  40. ac November 3, 2016 at 6:56 PM #

    Kammie i previously warned you that you might have won the war but not the battle,, a battle which you failed to understand a battle to get waste management in barbados under control For years many of your suggestions have been tried by various govt but have not reached the level of success in which barbados was able to eliminate the problem of increased dumping or a rodent problem
    Waste management is of big concern world wide some of the green house gases and pollutants attributed to land fills and recycling must be contained as they are proving to cause sever damage to the ozone layer , Your ongoing fight against WTE is not in the best interest of the country since through out the years you have failed to introduce viable and sustainable alternative that can absorb waste quickly as Barbados daily garbage grows at an increasing rate by business and every household
    I know you are going to repeat those innovations of small moving dinosaurs as a safer method but such being the case the end result must be one of a method by which garbage disposal can be decreased rapidly in a timely and sustainable manner
    In opposing you have held firm to health causes related to WTE plants however if barbados continues on a snail pace of methodology in the treatment and collection of garbage the alternative of germs caused long standing and overexposed waste can caused bacteria to breed creating a health risk for govt and populace one that is is very problematic and real having dire consequences which can attribute to growing health cost much of which taxpayers would have to pay

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  41. Bush Tea November 3, 2016 at 7:06 PM #

    @ Vincent
    .unfortunately they will not learn.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Wuh you neither.
    Imagine after all this shiite, you still talking ’bout them “learning”…
    Learn shiite!! …these people are JACKASSES.

    You ever heard of a jackass ‘learning’? … YUH have to cut his ass….
    Even Balaam had to put a few lashes in his donkey’s donkey to get him to speak up…

    We MUST be JAs too …. cause every time the union got the whip in the air …and the donkey ready to ‘straighten up’…. the jackass brays, and the foolish union pulls the whip…

    Damn DLP donkey must be laughing at the union asses…

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  42. Prodigal Son November 3, 2016 at 7:31 PM #

    Wait………….has anyone heard of or from Clare Cowan since the dems stabbed her in her back?

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  43. Kammie M Holder November 3, 2016 at 7:57 PM #

    @AC, I am firm is my opposition to Waste To Energy of the Combustion and incineration type but not of biodigestion.

    Dr Denis Lowe is a waste for a politician and history will record him as the most hated politician if sentiments on the ground are an indication. Even some of his cabinet buddies finds him despicable and have said that to me personally.

    He will not be able to do as he pleases for much longer aided and abetted by his friend the Prime Minister of Barbados Mr Freundel Stuart who has been a total let down. I respect the Prime Minister`s office but not his modus operandi.

    Dr Denis Lowe knows why he has not embraced recycling and why he promotes Waste To Energy. Mr Paul Bynoe will soon have a lot to say for when a man has lost all there is nothing else to loose.

    As a bajan with kids I will speak my mind respectfully without fear or favor and accept the consequences. However, I will use whatever remedies the constitution affords me to protect myself. Too many in this country use anonymity to attack and slader others rather than speak the truth using their real name. Be bloody bold enough to stand up and be counted,
    #ANewWay

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  44. Kammie M Holder November 3, 2016 at 8:02 PM #

    Both political parties have good candidates but the parties are now irrelevant and need bush baths for thorough cleansing. #ANewWay

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  45. ac November 3, 2016 at 8:57 PM #

    Kammie state your evidence as to what you state ref Denis lowe don’t just make allegations and exaggerated pronunciations.
    There are times when business have to upgrade their products or business models so as to have an advantage to move along with the modern times especially in a fast moving technological age in order not to be left behind.
    You must understand that barbados is no longer isolated but is guided by certain rules and regulation that govern the global community which barbados is a member
    There are many rules of goverance which impact barbados way in how the enviroment should be protected.
    You might wish to add a sinster approach with an attack on Lowe but you must realize as i mentioned in my comment that the rules and guidlines along with several treaties that barbados has signed might impact older business models which have become outdated in favour for new models based because of better technology
    Unfortunately SBRC might be caught in such a conundrum
    making govt decision seemingly looking unfair.However unless one have all the facts to veryify speculation and perception which give reason to be sinister is dangerous

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  46. Vincent Haynes November 3, 2016 at 9:02 PM #

    Kammie M Holder November 3, 2016 at 7:57 PM #

    Interesting last para….I am of the firm belief that things will start to happen as far as governance is concerned when we use our real names on this site and show the govt of the day that we are not intimidated by them.

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  47. David November 3, 2016 at 9:04 PM #

    Nonsense Vincent, they will just pick us off one by one.

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  48. Vincent Haynes November 3, 2016 at 9:06 PM #

    Bush Tea November 3, 2016 at 7:06 PM #

    Chuckle…..we greein pun dis wun…….so leff out cussin muh

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  49. Vincent Haynes November 3, 2016 at 9:09 PM #

    David November 3, 2016 at 9:04 PM #

    Sad,Sad…..after 200 odd years……then 50 years…..animal farm personified.

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  50. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI November 3, 2016 at 9:20 PM #

    @ Vincent Haynes

    Just when I was thinking that wunna fellers getting serious and ting wunna gone and re-introduce the Carl Moore and Heather Cole shy##te talk bout exposing we real names and ting heah…

    Wunna unnerstand whu going on doah??

    Let me see if de ole man can find a parallel fuh wunna to relate to.

    Alrighty dennnnn de ole man tink uh someting.

    You got a staunch woman right.

    One night you get a likkle bit pun de outside and in your enthusiasm you lef de condom wrapper in de car or she bite you and lef a mark or scratch you scvunt pun purpose or whatever (it is obvious by de ole man writings dat dis is not imaginations right??)

    Well you caught out but de onliest ting is dat she ent know who it is and she tell you dat “it is ok, if you tell she who it is, she ent going get vex or call de woman (or de woman man) and mek no noise”

    Now wunna unnerstand whu de state of play is regarding writing heah widout dese ingrunt piece uh names?

    Wunna is menses and wunna dun now whu dat disclosure uh de wumman name does lead tuh, now answer de ole man dis.

    In dis small minded DLP/BLP impotent doggie, pig headed, political lackey environs dat is dis 2×3 island, I want wunna to tell me effing dat disclosure dat wunna recommending bout heah in Barbados, effing dat is a good idea?

    So now dat we put dat ingrunce to bed again whu is de next move dat we gots to do to expose de kickback bribes dat associated wid whatever Last Swan Song deal dat dis Black Lipps Lowe Down seeking to implement to recoup de $5M loss wid he muddah account and dat nex “Me Claire who de ef is you” failed deal

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  51. Bajan Yankee. November 3, 2016 at 9:34 PM #

    @AC, what a load of crap for a response that speaks to nothingness.. Paul Bynoe is my friend and I know intimately his trials and stumbling blocks.

    Why would an international banker Mr Bynoe was sourcing funds from have reasons to inform him of who was running around with Cahill. Where is your conscience for fairplay. transparency.

    Too many excuses to justify bad decisions. “Excuses are the tools of the incompetent they build bridges to nowhere and monuments of nothingness.”

    Vacancy exist for political candiates who will put country before self and party for the sake of future generations. #ANewWay is coming to a constituency near you in the future!

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  52. Kammie M Holder November 3, 2016 at 9:38 PM #

    @Bajan Yankee, dont waste your time responding to AC. Political operatives are dime a dozen and will always sing for their supper. Like you I know Mr Bynoe as he freely shares his problems with whoever would listen.

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  53. Bush Tea November 3, 2016 at 9:45 PM #

    @ Piece
    That business of ‘using real name to stand up and be counted’ is so naive that it hurts…
    Lotta shiite!!

    Nothing wrong with standing up, ….IF YUH GOTTA WHACKER..!!
    …but just to be demoted like the Akanni fella, … or have you uncle’s reputation dragged through the mud; or …have AC and Donkey cussing you and yours for fun …..only detracts from the message…

    People use their real names mostly when they want ‘noticing’… or where it is an unavoidable part of the message being delivered -like Caswell and Jeff…

    If ANYONE (including highly placed whistleblowers) has a valuable MESSAGE to bring to the forum, then the “real name’ don’t mean one shiite…

    Even Carl Moore now gets that basic point …..after GP ripped his donkey apart last time he ventured here…

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  54. Kammie M Holder November 3, 2016 at 9:51 PM #

    @David King, no pain no gain. Bussa was betrayed by his own. To be fearful is natural and I do I understand what you speak. The most vicious things have been said about me by those who would wish for their financiers to continually benefit from GOB inefficiencies. However, those in the camp would say I am fair and consistent in condemnation nor do I hold any political bias. Why educate me then expect not to question and think.

    At some point in time we must all say united we stand divided we shall all suck salt. The unions, churches, media houses and some NGO`s have all sold out. To whom do we turn.

    When a man has lost all, there is nothing else to loose. #ANewWay

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  55. David November 3, 2016 at 9:55 PM #

    Even in the best companies employees are allowed an encouraged to whistle-blower read anonymously.

    On Thursday, 3 November 2016, Barbados Underground wrote:

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  56. Well Well & Consequences November 4, 2016 at 3:01 AM #

    “Kammie M Holder November 2, 2016 at 10:57 PM #
    Our only hope is that the greedy fleece or break some US law. I am a betting man that we will see a body snatch for money laundering in the very near future.”

    That’s one way to purge the island of those useless bastards, but there are other ways to get them all gone……ALL, the greedy business people, the greedy and stupid ministers, the greedy politicians.

    Focus on the message…..the messengers are not important, the damage being done to their scams and schemes against the people…… by BU and other social media forums is irreversible.

    The most important think is that none of them can stop the flow of information, trust me they really tried, I so hoped that they would all go broke trying.

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  57. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI November 4, 2016 at 5:22 AM #

    @ Well Well & Consequences

    And that is “the point of the spear.”

    Try as they may THEY CANNOT KEEP BACK THE TSUNAMI THAT IS SOCIAL MEDIA!!

    WW&C that “focus on the message” is a superb exhortation.

    Look at Barbados UnderGround!!

    No let us not do that let us focus on Naked Departure.

    Let us “go low” just to show this point.

    As inflammatory and defamatory as its content may be (purported to be) it has wide readership among a certain cross section of the population.

    On another blog the Honourable Blogmaster speaks to the issue of whistleblowing.

    Right now Mia Mottley and the BLP troika has amassed a mobaton of “whistleblown” documents which speak to the indiscretions read teifing of the Demonic Lying Party.

    But the thing is this.

    What is she, and Eddie Hinkson (whom Pornville hath reliably said wishes to be the next prime Minister of Barbados) and others who have the dirt, going to do?

    It is not like they are going to send the material to Naked Departure or to Barbados UnderGround!!

    They can’t because (a) for the most part few of them understand how to anonymize their identity and the material sent (b) with Naked Departure ONLY they have to be careful since Veronica MAY BETRAY DEM when she get in a mood and (c) they want to seem “in the know” during the coming General Election!!

    And that is the main issue really, “they want to feel powerful when they expose the information” on a platform

    Now let the ole man examine that for a while a la Hilary Email Dump (failed) strategy

    It is the constancy of “UP IN YOUR FACE” that gets a people like the docile Americans AND THE SUPER DOCILE BAJANS riled to the point of rejection.

    Your audience on the election platform is a few thousand people at most and unless it is TOXIC materials, the link between (a) exposure (b) assimilation and (c) action on the leaked information takes time to foment.

    But that is the disconnect that these so called strategists are waddling in.

    They do not understand how the internet works and are caught in that old time “Queens Park”
    denouement and exposee which in their antiquated opinion is going to change how the people going vote the following day!!

    They believe that their static posters pasted all over Westbury Cemetery’s wall, ad nauseum, going “carry the day” in 2016 among the undecideds.

    They think that a few wuk up fets and a suzuki van with a loudspeaker on top going mek tings happen.

    They fail to comprehend that dem posters and bunting all round de Light and Power posts are for the party faithful WHO DUN MEK UP DEM MINDS ALREADY.

    So them keeping all the info close to them chest so that when the election bell ring dem going “expose a fellow” and dont realize that “with an audience that is slow to move” read clinically a dead electorate, they need to repeat the message over and over and over again until the people, while not showing what they are going to do, WILL DO IT, “VOTE EVERY ONE OF THE DLP SCVUNT OUT” on Election Day

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  58. Frothy Mouth November 4, 2016 at 6:39 AM #

    We need to seek the help of Wikileaks…can someone reach out to wikileaks or anonymous?

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  59. Frothy Mouth November 4, 2016 at 6:41 AM #

    Please download Tor if seeking to contact wikileaks or anonymous to ensure your transmissions are secure from the security agencies.

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  60. Vincent Haynes November 4, 2016 at 7:20 AM #

    Bush Tea November 3, 2016 at 9:45 PM #

    You are armed and covered in the glory of the whacker with abounding faith in BBE,hence no mortal/humanoid can phase you and yours.

    …….either the afore is “true” or if false you would have discredited yourself and all you stand for eternity.

    ……your actions will give us the answer.

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  61. Vincent Haynes November 4, 2016 at 7:24 AM #

    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right – INRI November 3, 2016 at 9:20 PM #

    All I can say….to each their own…..your way and my way do not converge on this issue.

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  62. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI November 4, 2016 at 8:23 AM #

    @ Frothy Mouth

    In addition to the TorBrowser do not (a) play shockwave files on sites that you suspect because (at time of writing) Tor CAN BE CIRCUMVENTED BY shockwave files and (b) DO NOT DOWNLOAD PDFS, JPEGs or mp4s since they can have code embedded which conveys information about you that you want to safeguard

    For Example the US Small Business Agency is a conduit for the US Department of Homeland Security and customarily sends html code to subscribed users machines and harvests data from those machines through inbuilt and purposed “persistent data” access.

    It is like you have a neighbourhood watch and as one of your members you have the “Dead Bolt Man Nicholas”.

    you and your members cant understand “why your houses are being robbed everytime you are off to work, especially when he is the Secretary of the Watch and has been entrusted with the work schedule for all the people in the neighbourhood.

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  63. ac November 4, 2016 at 8:43 AM #

    Kammie Holder “political operatives are a dime a dozen” very interesting set of words coming from you one who actively engaged the operation of carpet baggers a known set of special interest group in opposing the WTE plant
    Now for what it is worth i will agree with your statement ” political operatives are a dime a dozen”

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  64. Well Well & Consequences November 4, 2016 at 10:18 AM #

    Yes Piece..lol

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  65. Vincent Haynes November 4, 2016 at 3:52 PM #

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  66. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI November 4, 2016 at 8:48 PM #

    @ Mr. Kammie Holder

    John (who does normally talk a good set uh ingrunce bout udder tings) jes raise a point bout garbage and water pun a next blog and before I forget leh me revert to something that you have been preaching for ages.

    I copy this from a next site

    “Another idea is that of an integrated waste management system.

    “In the integrated waste management system, there are three tiers of priorities: primary pollution and waste prevention, secondary pollution and waste prevention and lastly, waste management.”

    “Often when the phrase “waste management” comes to mind, I would think of the last two tiers which involve recycling, reuse, incineration and landfills. However, the first tier is the most important as it reduces the waste generated right from the start, diminishing the need for the next two tiers.”

    I would like to suggest something to you Mr. Holder

    Why you and your future Centre Trust doan go to the IDB for a small grant for Sustainable Cities or something, but the idea simply is as follows.

    De Future Centre Trust going adopt an entire Community for a pilot project that is going to pilot that 3R mantra.

    So you look fuh a developer whose properties can accommodate (OR BE RETROFITTED FOR) separation at source PUN EVERY PROPERTY IN THAT DEVELOPMENT!!

    Each property will have 4 receptacles (i) Paper, (ii) Plastics (iii) Glass and (v) Metal

    The property will have an Organic Compost and there may be an augmented community storage Bin for Batteries, Metals and Glass.

    You need to capture the metrics as in the total tonnage, the savings etc versus the costs.

    You have to stop talking bout these things ammmmm Mr. Holder.

    The fact is that you need to accept as I do now that these people around me are brass bowls who simply cannot do any better, it is not arrogance, it is not sanctimoniousness, or pride.

    It is simply fact.

    You think that if Jester Ince or Chris Stinkliar or any of the rest on either side had an inkling of your sense that we would be in the shyt##e that we are in now??

    The fellers are simply Waste Foops and once you realise that and accept that then you understand what you have to do.

    You is a man dat the IDB respects doan mind that you got some good waste foops on your Board that cant spell Recycle but you have to recognise that as well and work around them.

    Most of the time Waste Fopps like to stank Up and get awards for thngs that they know nothing about but talk nuff on.

    Look at Lil Caesar Stephen Lashley who all he good to do is find a wuk up and jump bout de place and dem read a speech wid he pretend voice.

    You ent bout dat so what you got to do is to say let de waste foops do dem waste foopism tings but you got work to do.

    So Future Centre going adopt a village/development someplace and with IBD funding wunna going do a lil project to show the efficacy of the concept okay?

    Write de ole am at peaceuhderockyeahright@gmail.com and I gine give you de name of a no nonsense consultant that is an Environmental Man dat trained.

    He doan stand fuh no shy##te so if you going waste he time he going dun wid you jes so.

    Let Us Adopt A New Way

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  67. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI November 4, 2016 at 8:54 PM #

    http://blog.nus.edu.sg/singapore2100/category/sustainability/solid-waste-management/

    I does doan need too much information to understand a concept.

    that is my gift from My Almighty GOD.

    It doan really matter whu um is HE DOES SHOW ME HOW IT WORKS and how to make it work

    I speak this into your life Mr Kammie Holder that you will make this Lilliputian #R pilot a success at the macro level and will rollout a parish project shortly thereafter.

    Doan relly matter which of the tribe of clowns in the house of parliament you know what you have been put here to do, SO JES DO IT!!

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  68. Kammie M Holder November 4, 2016 at 11:02 PM #

    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right – INRI, thank you, we have some CoreNetworks aka Comunnity Recycling Networks going but I do see aspects within your proposals how we can tweek. We will contact you.

    We must find a way to hold Denis Lowe and those who aid and abet him accountable for his poor stewardship of his ministry by using all international watchdog organizations including the one he is deputy chair.

    The Waste To Energy plant will also impact our micro climate.and we must use all means necessary both local and international to stop it. Why not solar farms Dr Denis Lowe now PV cells are at an all time low? Will Dr Denis Lowe use his minister`s salary to provide the monitoring equipment needed by EPD?

    Emtage, Williams, Maloney, Bjerkham,Dasilva, Arthur, Rayside,Bannister and front men must understand the social implications when the wealth is deliberately concentrated in the hands of a few. Sorry to say but both political parties are in for a rude awakening during the next election.

    Where are the politicians and citizens who are bold enough to break ranks for sake of country over party loyalty.

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  69. pieceuhderockyeahright November 5, 2016 at 3:12 AM #

    @ mr Kammie Lowe

    I promise that I will give you a project which will do three things.

    As long as you and your agency ensure on requirement de ole man will give you a trinity project that will (a) revolutionize water heating (b) provide a home based PVC matrix and (c) significantly affect all imports of fossil based fuels for Barbados.

    I no longer see these clowns as Competitors Mr Holder their Hands are too short to Box with GOD so while the will continue to contend, they have already lost e battle since HE has given us the victory.

    As long as your entity sticks to its mandate …

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  70. Kammie M Holder November 5, 2016 at 7:37 AM #

    There is much to celebrate in our year of jubilee, however there is also much to complain about in a country expected to punch above its weight. The apathy towards our Jubillee celebrations lies squarly at the hands of our ARROGANT politicians drunk with power of office. A little engagement thru conversations would have made a world of difference…

    @pieceuhderockyeahright The Future Centre Trust nor I will never compromise. Death is better for its just migration to another plane of existence.Our country needs men and women who will not only think about winning an election but do all necessary to protect the legacy of future generations. I know the inherent dangers in speaking out and can choose to either humble and grumble our cuss speak on environmental issues as a passion.

    I can still smell the rank from the sheep rope, the bladders from cutting cane at Hill View and Cliff Plantation, the ink from my purity bread bag which acted as my school bag still lingers on my hand and the dust trapped by the lard oil on my feet has long been washed away but I cannot forget the shine on my feet.

    We must all do whatever is necessary to ensure that Barbados is a just and all inclusive society where the majority are given equal opportunities. Speaking out in the most non partisan way without fear or favor. The mantra of evey right thinking Barbadian and even those who are sober enough from the worldly distractions such as sports must be ” Barbados Must Come First.”

    #ANewWaymust be found to get our politicians to a conversation and not confrontation. Will it be easy? No, for even their proxies will seek to sabotage your desire to speak out.

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  71. Well Well & Consequences November 5, 2016 at 11:18 AM #

    “We must all do whatever is necessary to ensure that Barbados is a just and all inclusive society where the majority are given equal opportunities.”

    That should not have to be given by anyone…in any country where you are the majority…like Barbados is a black majority country…a BLACK NATION…it is an automatic right….automatically accepted by everyone else.

    Check UK, Canada, US etc…, their majority enjoy automatic rights, why should it be any different or have to be given in Barbados.

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  72. Well Well & Consequences November 5, 2016 at 11:27 AM #

    Apparently…it’s the fools in parliament who are not aware of this and even if they were are so dumbed down and like to kowtow, bow and scrape and take bribes from the minorities, that they have for the last 50 years.., ignored the inalienable equal rights of the majority…their own people.

    I am getting tired of pointing out these elementary things, there is wide access to the internet all this information is online for the world to see, this should no longer be an issue to the point that it is still a topic on BU…

    …….apply more pressure to the government ministers and politicians. ..they are the weakest link, stagnating progress and recognition of the rights of the majority people on the island.

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  73. Well Well & Consequences November 6, 2016 at 5:46 AM #

    How Rwanada, an African country got rid of the blight of plastic bags.

    “She cited the capital’s exceptional cleanliness as an example. Unlike many major African cities, it is free from the blight of plastic bags accumulating in every gutter: that’s because Kagame outlawed plastic bags entirely in 2008, to the point where they are confiscated from tourists entering the country.”

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  74. Kammie M Holder November 6, 2016 at 9:46 AM #

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