Dr. George Brathwaite

The George Brathwaite Column – Blame Builds Confusion

Dr. George C. Brathwaite

Dr. George C. Brathwaite

“We are made wise not by the recollection of our past, but by the responsibility for our future” George Bernard Shaw.

Plain and simple, the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) administration under Prime Minister Freundel Stuart is trying to reach the landmark of January 21, 2017 in efforts to duly celebrate the Father of Independence – National Hero and Right Excellent Errol Barrow – on his birthday but whilst in government. Despite talking of the economy turning the corner and saying that economically things are looking up, the lived realities are suggesting that Barbados is in the grips of a crisis which is effectively dismantling the economy and society. Leadership continues to be under scrutiny, and the policy arena appears to be muddled with problems leading to the perceptions of societal fear and other unbearable anxieties which are crawling under the skins of the population.

In fact, over the last few days in Barbados, several ludicrous statements were made by public officials in what seemed like an orchestrated attempt to confuse and bamboozle the polity. It so happened that these persons believed they have a right and duty to dim their presence in the eyes of the public against a background of numerous calamities and national problems that are getting worse instead of being solved. Many Barbadians are likely to suggest that effective leadership transcends taking responsibility rather than making excuses and harping on why positive actions cannot be taken. It is in that context, that one must wonder if the national interest is being subsumed under the heavy and soiled mat of the DLP and its priorities.

Elsewhere, one researcher suggests that “political responsibility is a concept through which we see ourselves and our world,” but as it stands these days, “it would appear that the political realm consists of political actors who seek to avoid the ascription of and/or the acceptance of political responsibility.” If this observation is true and indicative of things in Barbados then it reasons that the country is by far worse off than eight years ago.

The contention here is given that some members of the political class in Barbados, and in particular those sitting in the Cabinet of Prime Minister Stuart, have recently been singing a sorrowful parody that takes the ‘blame-game’ to new lows and exposes the incompetence for which many persons have previously alluded and mocked, then it is fair to say, that this DLP administration has shamed the very mirror image concept that was framed by its founder father and most celebrated politician. Maybe it is worth repeating the consideration that Barrow gave to this country and to those serving the interests of Barbados. He stated:

“What kind of mirror image do you have of yourself? Let me tell you what kind of mirror image I have of you, or what the Democratic Labour Party has of you. The Democratic Labour Party has an image that the people of Barbados would be able to run their own affairs, to pay for the cost of running their own country, to have an education system which is as good as what can be obtained in any industrialised country, anywhere in the world.”

Incidentally, it is well accepted in political science literature that ‘bad government is the inevitable result of a lack of accountability’ and ‘fertile ground is prepared for corruption’. All across Barbados we are hearing both of bad government and corruption. Maybe it is time that we take stock of ourselves and our nation instead of trying to make it from one term to the next while Bridgetown becomes a citadel of backwardness. Of course we know, that the good and the ills occurring are products of this society; but is that ample reason for the Attorney General to point fingers elsewhere rather than feel challenged to bring about positive change?

It makes sense to examine the mothers, fathers, and guardians that may have ignored their sons when they were going wrong. Similarly it may make sense to investigate the education system for shuttling out children that are consistently underperforming while the Minister gesticulates and practice ‘Jonesing’ around instead of introducing real progressive reforms. Yes, it also makes sense to ascertain what things have crept into our culture and have inundated us with a proliferation of things foreign, but which we accepted and allowed to our detriment; is it these things that are now attracting concern with the declining values system evidenced in Barbados? These are all issues and concerns for which we as a society must attempt to understand and to correct; but why as a policy maker and an executive government would a Minister facing these challenges throw his or her hands in the air?

One can presume that no Minister at this time is to be found in the uncanny position as Dr. David Estwick finds himself. Again, it seems convenient that the policymaker prefers not to be blamed. Instead, those persons not getting water on any regular basis but still having to pay for dry pipes should blame the management or other entities in the Barbados Water Authority (BWA), but stay clear of the sanctified Dr. Estwick. Whatever can we do in St. Joseph, St. Thomas, St. Lucy, St. John, and several other areas to provide the most basic of commodities and life – water?

So that regardless of the situation or the Ministry involved, the DLP Ministerial members are saying to the nation, just do not blame us or the Minister. Dr. Estwick, if one remembers, is on record of being critical of the very colleagues he sits with as a Cabinet member; but he now is seemingly adverse to the cries of the people and the plight of the poor in St. Joseph and across the country. Surely, Dr. Estwick is bigger than the minion status he occupies in Cabinet. Hence, his resignation can become token relief for the country folk, and he would easily appear noble to all Barbadians.

At this juncture, it is needless to talk about the prolonged garbage situation that has been rubbished by Dr. Lowe, or the behemoth called the Transport Board which has its own set of chaos and colossal failures. The point is that someone inclusive of the Prime Minister has to take responsibility for many of the wrongs plaguing our system of governance and the actions that are negatively impacting the Barbados society.

Ministers of Government must be held personally culpable for their own acts and omissions, and for those of their heads of department and their personal staff. This is the 21st century and we cannot allow this dissonance between the governing and the governed to continue unabated. Ministers have to be responsible for the department and agencies in which they have participated or of which they were aware or should have been aware of the relevant happenings.

If as suggested that the DLP is marking time until early next year, it may be in the national interest that the masses (all workers unite) shake them from their zone of excuses and blame immediately. There is still a flicker of hope, at this time, that the Opposition Barbados Labour Party (BLP) is sufficiently confident to take the responsibility of rescuing and rebuilding Barbados. This is likely to be far more assertive than waiting out the DLP’s unimpressive second term in office which rivals only the period 2008 to 2013. The blame-game will only add confusion to the mix, and one would hardly think that any political party would set out to create the confusion for which Barbados is now immersed.

(Dr. George C. Brathwaite is a part-time lecturer in Political Science at the UWI-Cave Hill Campus, a researcher and political consultant, and up until recently, he was editor of Caribbean Times (Antigua). Email: brathwaitegc@gmail.com )

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55 Comments on “The George Brathwaite Column – Blame Builds Confusion”

  1. Violet C Beckles September 13, 2016 at 8:02 AM #

    Some people take so long to wake up , never better late , better never late,to write about crimes of crooks need not be so long, When you are living it, Nasty bunch of scumbags they are, How do they even sleep at night, Its seem to be very well when you are happy with yourself , pit of snakes,Vote All of them OUT.

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  2. Well Well & Consequences September 13, 2016 at 8:10 AM #

    That’s exactly the intent ofnbackward government ministers, blame mothers and grandmothers for the social problems affecting the boys and girls….they do not blame the FATHERS & GRANDFATHERS for their lack of presence or interactions in their childrens lives…..the fallout is the males, both boys and men…..do not think they are responsible for anything, particularly for raising, supporting and interacting with their children and grandchildren.

    Stupid government ministers, stupid politicians.

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  3. NO-SHOW SHAME September 13, 2016 at 9:04 AM #

    The above is so well written and so correct. The country is broken financially and spiritually. This government we voted for want to blame the people for all of its ills but do not seem to think that they are to blame. Well let me show some things that government could do that might at the same time show where the blame should be and the best way government could give us back the pride and industry of yesteryear so that all the peoples of this beautiful island could truly celebrate this 50th year of independence with happiness.

    Show you care by stopping the ridiculous amount of money being spent on fireworks, party, 1st class tickets to travel worldwide, champagne and caviar at expensive dinners and functions in the name of celebrating the 50th Anniversary of Independence and the birth of Sir Garfield Sobers over and over again with tickets flying off the selling grid into the pockets of family and party friends.

    Show you will stop throwing more suffering into the faces of people who are being told over and over again to pay more taxes and tighten up their belts.

    Show the accountability and transparency that was promised at election time.

    Show that it is wrong and criminal to be blaming recession when you ent clearly recessed with spending on foolishness.

    Show some care for the people who are suffering water shortages, some for even a year.

    Show some intelligence for the children who are our future and the school system that is failing.

    Show some love for those who are sick and ailing in a broken down QEH.

    Show the boys on the block who are armed with guns and selling drugs how their lives can change for the betterment of ourociety.

    Show those who bring in these commodities that this has to stop.

    Show those who bring in prostitutes from all over the world to service those who wish to be serviced are denied this mode of making their dollars.

    Show the immigration people how to treat even the most wanted criminal at our ports of entry.

    Show our citizens how the services they pay for will work for them, garbage for instance.

    Show farmers that you care enough about the health of your people that you will stop pesticides, that you will support local and organic agriculture, that you will stop the huge import of foodstuffs that are second class.

    Show that you will ensure that praedial larceny will be taken seriously.

    Show that you will stop the disgusting behaviour on the road with their rude music and overstuffed passengers by those whose vehicles are owned by politicians and others who could not give a bean about lives.

    Show how you care about the elderly by giving them a better pension for all they have contributed to the island when they were young and able.

    Show that the homes that they have to go into at a certain age are giving dignity and quality of life to these same elderly.

    Show your voters that you are responsible for the running of the country in a way that will be for the betterment of their island.

    Show that you are not simply squandering good money against bad investment.

    These are just but a few things to show. There is so much more. It would take about a Bible of pages to show all that could be shown to return pride and industry to this little island of ours.

    And if you cannot do this, if you cannot show the people the love you have for the island then resign forthwith to let someone else try to show how it can be done. You have systematically disgraced Barbados in the eyes of the world. Show you can be humble, show pride in your country and simply resign.

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  4. Bernard Codrington. September 13, 2016 at 9:11 AM #

    I wonder who elected these stupid politicians? Stupid electorates? I wonder which genetic pool they came from? The same as mine? It is time to stop this blame game. It is getting us nowhere,soon. Change the things we can. What we cannot change ,ignore for now.

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  5. abajanhowe September 13, 2016 at 9:26 AM #

    The blame game is the result of constant non-action mostly by the non-leaders of this present Government. Almost all of the politicians are looking out for themselves and not the population.

    Reining in the different Government agencies for change for the betterment of the people and the country seems blind to the head person, or even forcing an early election will be a lesson in futility, because every one of those offices are stacked with party faithfuls that will hamper any progress that can be of benefit to Barbados.

    The crooked politicians know who they are and would not want to be seen in the ‘caps that fit’ and they are hiding behind their leader who is backing them to the hilt by mostly deafening us with their silence and condoning the evils entrenched in the corrupt Minsters. Throw the blame anywhere else but where it belong is their motto.

    Take note how silent they are of recent times when they are not putting their feet in the mouth.

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  6. Bernard Codrington. September 13, 2016 at 9:32 AM #

    I wonder how many of the BU family give advice to the youth and try to point them to the paths that will make them happy and productive citizens of Barbados. Do we stand on the wayside and say he/she is not my concern? Do we leave them up entirely to their parents who are so busy putting a roof over their heads, clothes on their backs and food on the table that they have little time to socialise them? If we as guardians of our fate do not do this,then we have no moral ground on which to complain.

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  7. Bernard Codrington. September 13, 2016 at 9:35 AM #

    The above concerns also relate to the political class they need to be told privately that they are falling short of public expectations. Most will respond.

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  8. Well Well & Consequences September 13, 2016 at 9:36 AM #

    …….”that this DLP administration has shamed the very mirror image concept that was framed by its founder father and most celebrated politician……”

    Barrow knew why he warned bajans so many decades ago that they would wake up one day and realize they own nothing on the island…prophetic words….he knew the mentality of those in his political party, he knew the backward mentality would be transferred from generstion to generation, he knew it’s a mental block…read their own stupidity…. that causes politicians not to see what is right in front of them.

    A grown man, father and attorney general would encourage for another few decades that men and boys on the island not take responsibility for their actions, blame the females for everything that is wrong with the young and for everything that goes wrong in their lives, fir everything wrong with society…., a mess that government ministers and politicians helped create which already caused 2 generastions of young men and women to be lost to a decaying, corrupt system created by government ministers. ….and politicians.

    Adriel Nitwit is trying to create enough confusion to cause another 2 or 3 generations to be lost to his backwardness. …another wasted 50 or 75 years down the drain for young people. .

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  9. Well Well & Consequences September 13, 2016 at 10:08 AM #

    “Take note how silent they are of recent times when they are not putting their feet in the mouth.”

    Everytime they open their backward mouths…that’s exactly where the politicians put both their 2 feet….their brains and mouths never connect to create intelligent discourse.

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  10. chad99999 September 13, 2016 at 11:27 AM #

    This article is more of the same. Political opportunism.
    The lawyer politicians of Barbados do not, as a group, have the skills to MANAGE the country. Nor can they be expected to have these skills. They are the winners of popularity contests, and their role is to formulate policies, then propose and enact laws. It is up to the bureaucracies they lead to keep water flowing in the pipes, to make sure that the hospitals provide efficient care, to deliver effective educational programs in our schools and colleges, to administer our ports of entry, to keep government-owned buildings clean and in good repair, etc.
    But this is where we fall down — at the technical and management tasks essential to a successful modern economy. We have neglected technical education, so we are short of competent technicians. Most of our managers are not properly trained to manage, which is a difficult skill to learn.
    Why blame it all on the politicians? Why elect another group of lawyers who don’t even understand modern economics, much less the nuts-and-bolts of modern administration?

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  11. FearPlay September 13, 2016 at 11:34 AM #

    The president of the Philippines is recently reported to have referred to the President of the United States of America as “the son of a ….”. What would be appropriate terms by which each member of this government be entitled?

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  12. George C. Brathwaite September 13, 2016 at 12:08 PM #

    @chad99999
    It is obvious that you would rather me write and tell the big lie that the DLP is performing exceptionally well as a government and that the people of Barbados are happy with the performances and delivery of services.
    Last I checked, I am still a Barbadian and I reserve the right to respectfully show my disgust at the very paltry performance of this government.
    The opportunity to vent my feelings could only arise in the deplorable conditions that are emerging under this poorly performing administration.
    Hence, instead of thrashing my writings because of the things observed, maybe you should pen some articles directly to the DLP machinery advising them on how they could improve, or you can also choose to sing with them how great they are. Seriously, let us face the facts, it is eight years in the seat of government and things appear not to be getting better but worse. The sad thing is that this government promised much and apart from negatives, have delivered very little. These are the facts. If you want to defend them and attack the voice of reason, please do so. It is as much your Barbados as it is mine.

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  13. chad99999 September 13, 2016 at 12:24 PM #

    The DLP has not done anything for me and I am not carrying any water for them.
    Your comments completely ignore what I have said, viz., the main fault for the problems we face in Barbados lies with the technical, managerial and professional classes who are not quite up to the task of running a modern economy.
    The politicians are POLICYMAKERS. It is not their job to operate the Water Authority, or prevent our government buildings fro falling into disrepair. In any case, most of them cannot even design or evaluate policies to keep the economy humming because they never mastered the economic concepts and models that are used to make crucial decisions in economic management. They certainly know nothing about managing public sector activities.
    What would the BLP do differently when the Headmistress of the Party is another corrupt, know-nothing lawyer?

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  14. Bernard Codrington. September 13, 2016 at 1:28 PM #

    @ Chad, where were you living when “the Head Mistress “was running her ministries with am A+grade of efficiency?

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  15. chad99999 September 13, 2016 at 1:40 PM #

    I am not aware of any politician in Barbados running a ministry with A+ grade efficiency. That is a cruel fantasy. I do know they somehow get money to finance their political operations and their luxurious lifestyles, which include travel to their properties in North America and the UK.

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  16. millertheannunaki September 13, 2016 at 3:20 PM #

    @ chad99999 September 13, 2016 at 12:24 PM
    “The politicians are POLICYMAKERS. It is not their job to operate the Water Authority, or prevent our government buildings fro falling into disrepair. In any case, most of them cannot even design or evaluate policies to keep the economy humming because they never mastered the economic concepts and models that are used to make crucial decisions in economic management. They certainly know nothing about managing public sector activities.”

    Chad, the 5 of 9, I must admit I do admire your maverick intellect by stretching the art of controversy to the max.

    But in your zest to impress you sometimes make simple faux pas in logic and indeed commonsense.

    Your paradox of contradictions can sometimes defeat your own argument.
    Just examine your two statements repeated below for the hoisting on your own petard:
    “The politicians are POLICYMAKERS.”
    vs
    “They certainly know nothing about managing public sector activities.”

    How can you make policy without knowing (or being advised thoroughly) about both sides of the decision-making process or equation?

    Politicians who make up the Executive arm of Government (the Cabinet) must be seized with the skills set to both quickly appreciate and demonstrate a comprehensive understanding of the workings of his or her ministerial portfolio and to effectively manage the people and the processes not at the micro level but certainly at the macro level with an helicopter or eagle view of what is happening under his or her watch.

    Ideas or policy expectations based on partisan political moorings might originate with politicians but, clearly, real policy formulation and implementation must reside with technocrats. It is the role of the politician to accept or reject such policy proposals.

    The buck stops with the politician. He or she must therefore receive the kudos when things work out for the general good or must carry the can or the blame when things go awry. That is the cost and benefit analysis of being a politician.

    Stop blaming the under-managers. They can be replaced just like the politicians.

    It would be most refreshing if your present ‘hands-off’ Prime Minister would place a sign on his desk with the following inscription:
    “The buck stops here”.

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  17. chad99999 September 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM #

    This is where you show the limits of your knowledge.
    Policymaking is about making decisions. It is about CHOOSING courses of action from various possible options.
    Management, on the other hand, is about the EXECUTION of policy choices.

    In advanced countries, politicians spend most of their time DEFINING THE VISION and the MISSION, picking the people to carry out the mission (appointments), FORMULATING POLICIES and RELATED LEGISLATION, PROPOSING AND ESTABLISHING PROGRAMS to implement their policy choices, and working out budgets to ALLOCATE RESOURCES to the programs. They then write and deliver SPEECHES to communicate their decisions and build support for the choices they have made.

    But they do not try to manage. They do not have the time or the ability. MANAGEMENT is about setting time-bound performance objectives for an organization, identifying the risks that can prevent the achievement of those objectives, designing and implementing controls to help reduce the risks and ensure the achievement of the objectives, evaluating the results against the planned objectives and making adjustments to improve future performance.

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  18. FearPlay September 13, 2016 at 7:53 PM #

    I believe that it was His Excellency, the Rt Hon Errol Barrow who made the first changes to the way thing were run in the Civil Service by taking away many of the powers of administration from career Civil Servants and Permanent Secretaries and reposing them in the hands of politicians. This may have been a prudent move at the time when one considers that there were minister of calibre running the country. Regrettably we find ourselves today with (and I quote) “a poor-rakey Parliament”, hence the inability to either set policy or execute a plan. We have now reached a situation where the blind is leading the blind.

    Ever heard this saying? “Leaders who don’t listen will eventually be surrounded by people who have nothing to say”! Well, I think that we have reached that position with our Civil Servants. Go figure.

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  19. millertheannunaki September 13, 2016 at 9:13 PM #

    @ chad99999 September 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM
    “In advanced countries, politicians spend most of their time DEFINING THE VISION and the MISSION, picking the people to carry out the mission (appointments), FORMULATING POLICIES and RELATED LEGISLATION, PROPOSING AND ESTABLISHING PROGRAMS to implement their policy choices, and working out budgets to ALLOCATE RESOURCES to the programs. They then write and deliver SPEECHES to communicate their decisions and build support for the choices they have made.”

    It seems you are referring to the American form of governance more so than the Ministerial or Cabinet system based on the Westminster style.

    If you believe that speeches delivered by ministers of the Crown are written and prepared by the same ministers then you are really ‘executing’ a deep dearth of appreciation of ministerial government.

    We shall hate to think the Minister of Finance does indeed write and thoroughly prepare his budget presentations and cannot tell the difference between 0.7 % and 0.07 % while showing a consistent inability to handle and present in a clear manner policy matters involving basic numeracy and numeracy.

    You can split as many etymological hairs as you like but the stark reality remains that the Cabinet of Barbados has Constitutional and direct responsibility for the good governance or MANAGEMENT of affairs of the country called Barbados and is obligated to report to the ultimate Executive Her Majesty (the Crown or State) or Her appointee by way of Parliament.

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  20. Tron September 13, 2016 at 10:30 PM #

    The government of this country makes the tax policy, the decisions about international loans and the structure of the civil service. Not the civil service itself.

    The government of this country sets the framework for the private sector through taxation, excessive import duties and bureaucracy. Not the private sector itself.

    The government of this country calls foreign rating agencies garbage. Not the people of Barbados themselves.

    It is all about the government.

    If it was the opposite, why independence, if the government had no say at all? Why?

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  21. Well Well & Consequences September 14, 2016 at 2:35 AM #

    Barbados does not have 3 branches of government, with layers of managers between the president, federal, state and city agencies, so it’s left to the “poor rakey” parliament, made up of “poor rakey” government ministers, in a “poor rakey” cabinet to manage and set policies for a top heavy civil service to follow.

    Everything is miniscule in Barbados, it’s a tiny island, the ministers are the ones acting like it’s all so difficult, they themselves are the ones making it more difficult than it ought to be…they are the legislators, the civil servants have the day to day implementation of the policies set by the legislators.

    It’s not difficult to understand.

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  22. chad99999 September 14, 2016 at 6:20 AM #

    Most of you are not corporate managers and you don’t know the difference between leadership and strategic decision making, on the one hand, and operating management on the other
    The CEO of a company spends most of his time choosing courses of action for the company — vision, mission, budgets — picking or approving the people who will have operational responsibility for corporate departments, speaking to employees to understand their concerns and motivate them, and so on. But he foes not try to run individual parts of the company himself
    Why? Because he is usually a lawyer, a banker or an accountant with little detailed knowledge of how individual departments like IT, or Logistics actually work. And he is too busy meeting people and making phone calls to get into the weeds.
    The same is true for a prime minister or a Cabinet Minister. They are leaders who take overall responsibility for operations they barely understand, but it is up to the operating managers to actually get things done. The operating manager should be handing a piece of paper with good news to the Minister, so the Minister can read the paper in Parliament, take his bows, and look good.

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  23. David September 14, 2016 at 6:46 AM #

    @chad99999

    Nothing wrong with your text book positions then you have to factor nuances of the Caribbean market.

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  24. chad99999 September 14, 2016 at 7:13 AM #

    Let me break this down some more:
    If the Minister of Education decides to switch from GCE A-levels and O-levels to CXC, and introduce new subjects like Agriculture and Accounting to the classroom (thats an example of choosing courses of action from available options), it is still up to the school principals and the school teachers to ensure high quality instruction takes place in the classroom, and the students are motivated so they perform well on their Accounting exams. If the students fail their Accounting paper in droves, I hope you do not automatically blame the Minister.

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  25. David September 14, 2016 at 7:22 AM #

    @chad99999

    We blame the Minister if there is not a working performance based system in position.

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  26. David September 14, 2016 at 7:24 AM #

    0 minutes ago Details @chad99999

    We blame the Minister if there is not a working performance based system in position.

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  27. Well Well & Consequences September 14, 2016 at 7:56 AM #

    That’s why it’s not difficult to understand…the civil service manages the daily rut, are more versed in procedures, cause ministers have short shelf lives, the civil servants are handed down the laws by legislators…….civil servants will obviously alwsys have more experience and skills than any old or new politian/minister…..so what the hell does anyone need a minister for, they should not even be paid.

    Track Record:

    Minister at QEH…FAIL

    Minister at water authority….FAIL

    Minister at Transport Board….FAIL

    Minister at attorney generals office…..FAIL

    Minister at Ministry 8f Education……FAIL

    Minister of International Business…..FAIL

    Minister at PMs office…….FAIL

    …….did I forget anyone.

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  28. Tron September 14, 2016 at 8:15 AM #

    @Chad

    Again. It was the government´s decision to take up the CS loan for 10 % interest. It was the government´s decision not to restructure the civil service and state agencies, allowing the budget deficit to explode. It was the government´s decision to insult the rating agency. It was the government´s decision to increase taxes to a level, where food is unafforable for most inhabitants of this island. It was the government´s decision to sign the contract with Cahill. It was the government´s decision not to repair any roads. … On a little island like Barbados, most decisions are made on the top level.

    Chad, if your arguments on management were right, does the CEO not have the responsibility what is going on in his company. Shouldn´t he resign when there are clear signs of bankrupty?

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  29. Well Well & Consequences September 14, 2016 at 8:20 AM #

    Resign or get locked the hell up.

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  30. chad99999 September 14, 2016 at 8:29 AM #

    David
    I am not taking textbook positions.
    I am describing how the world works in successful countries. I left school many many years ago.

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  31. chad99999 September 14, 2016 at 8:38 AM #

    Tron
    I agree with you. The government is to blame for all the things you describe.
    But the government is being blamed for more than those things. WW&D blames them for everything.

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  32. David September 14, 2016 at 8:44 AM #

    @chad99999

    And this is the result when a climate of poor governance is allowed to take root. The baby goes out with the bath water.

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  33. Well Well & Consequences September 14, 2016 at 9:26 AM #

    Chad…but the government is the one promised everything in their manifestos….both 2008 and 2013. If they delivered on NONE if thise promises, then who to blame,.

    It’s like insurances executives lying to you theirr customer about a policy, investment….then you lose everything and realize they were just lying to get ya money….who do you blame.

    Check out their 2018 mamifesto when they make it public, if ya think am lying…the politicians lie and make promises they NEVER keep,

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  34. Well Well & Consequences September 14, 2016 at 9:30 AM #

    Besides, telling lies to a whole country just to be elected to enjoy perks and salaries and status etc….then do nothing to upgrade every sector to push that country to progress or the people to comfortable living and quality of life ….should be a crime.

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  35. ac September 14, 2016 at 9:38 AM #

    What one expect from a bunch of losing opposers but to blame Govt for everything but in realtime reflection many of the same problems were not given the highest priority by the 14 year reign of the blp govt
    Hence we have water mains around one hundred years needed to be fix and a bunch of losers politicizing the problem as if that type of advocacy would guarantee a quick fix
    Then we have some on local media presenting themselves as talk show moderators adding fuel to fire with self serving shameless political bombas advocating any and everything irrevalant to finding a solution
    Better yet would have been if these political mouthpieces in the media would take advantage of their professional role in an area that would best serve those who are being affected by water shortage instead laying a pipeline of inflammatory political rhetoric
    The reality is that there is no magic bullet or quick solution to the water problem despite the many noises or call fir resignations

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  36. Well Well & Consequences September 14, 2016 at 9:53 AM #

    What I would like to know is when did it become ok for politicians/government ministers to lie to the electorate/taxpayers, make promises they would not even try to keep, so they can be elected to get their hands on the treasury and temporary status and self-enrichment etc….when did their treachery, deceit and greed start.

    When did it become ok for ministers not to accept responsibility for their failure to do their jobs.

    When did it become ok for insurance companies and their executives to steal from policyholders and vulnerable senior citizens, aided and enabled by government ministers….who already had experience with thieving insurance companies on the island, but NEVER put systems in place to prevent repeats of thievery…to lock up the thieves.

    The low intellect yardfowls like the ACs I can understand, but when did it become ok for intelligent citizens to accept these crimes against themselves and others.

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  37. Bush Tea September 14, 2016 at 10:13 AM #

    @ Chad999 (another 9 gone…)
    You are talking a roll…
    Ultimately, the buck stops at the top.
    Policy makers who establish the vision, the goals and the process cannot escape total and ultimate responsibility for the results.

    Managers can at best maximise the efficiency of implementation, …but if you are implementing shiite, it does not matter how efficient your are …. in fact your efficiency may well speed up system failure.

    Politicians /policy makers who select poor managers (family and friends) must take responsibility when they are unable to implement even GOOD policies.

    Politicians /policy makers who refuse to discipline management, to enforce meritocracy, to fit round pegs into round holes, and to focus on results…MUST be the ones to blame for system failures….

    There is no way to avoid it.

    Right now, all failing roads lead to Froon ….who have been ineffective in ANY area of policy or system management. Only he has the responsibility and power to change idiots like Stinkliar, shiite-hound, Kellman and Wejonseing….. and he has allowed them to continue to wreck havoc on Barbados for eight years now….while he slept in blissful ignorance…

    Managers shiite!!
    The ones we have are also useless, but who will deal with them…? an even more idiotic Froon? who hired /appointed them?

    We are as good as dead….
    GP said it best recently when he suggested that ‘…only Jesus can save our asses now….’
    …or words to such effect….🙂

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  38. Well Well & Consequences September 14, 2016 at 10:21 AM #

    There ain’t a jesus want anything to do with that pile of shit the ministers created…the people have to make a serious stand.

    We all know who helps those who helps themselves.

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  39. Artax September 14, 2016 at 10:31 AM #

    In June 2009, while addressing a meeting at the BWA’s Manor Lodge Headquarters, at Green Hill, St. Michael, then Prime Minister David Thompson told employees that water rates would be increased effective July 21, 2009.

    Thompson said: “The only viable option is to grant a rate increase at this time to permit the conduct of orderly operations, while giving some breathing space for modernising the organisation and commencing a number of projects critical to the development of the water and waste water sector.”

    “This modernisation is an essential component of the preparation of the BWA for eventual regulation by the Fair Trading Commission.”

    On Monday, June 29, 2009, acting Minister of the Environment, Water Resources and Drainage, Senator Haynesley Benn, confirmed the water hike, which, according to him, would see a bill of $20 be increased to $32, translating to an approximately 60% increase.

    New headquarters and 7 years and 2 months after the 60% increase, stupid yard-fowls are blaming the BLP. It’s tantamount to saying:

    Don’t blame the DLP because they were in office for a mere 8 years and 7 months, and “the reality is that there is NO magic bullet or quick solution to the water problem.”

    However, blame the BLP because they HAD the “magic bullet or quick fix solution,” but “many of the same problems were not given the highest priority by the 14 year reign of the BLP government.”

    It seems as though yard-fowls attended a school for slow learners.

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  40. Artax September 14, 2016 at 10:45 AM #

    It makes me proud and fills me with joy to know my 7 year old son exhibits a higher level of common sense, intelligence and the ability to reason more so than some of the adults who come into this forum with the shiite they write, in a futile attempt to defend the nonsense being perpetrated by this inept DLP administration.

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  41. millertheannunaki September 14, 2016 at 11:18 AM #

    @ chad99999 September 14, 2016 at 6:20 AM
    “The same is true for a prime minister or a Cabinet Minister. They are leaders who take overall responsibility for operations they barely understand, but it is up to the operating managers to actually get things done. The operating manager should be handing a piece of paper with good news to the Minister, so the Minister can read the paper in Parliament, take his bows, and look good.”

    You have stated this trite remark rather well. But you have failed to balance the scale and square the equation.

    What about stating also?
    {The operating manager should be handing a piece of paper with ‘not so good’ news to the Minister, so the Minister can read the paper in Parliament, ‘take the criticisms’, ‘and accept full responsibility instead of blaming his underlings’}.

    Despite your specious arguments in defending the ‘boss’ it must be stated that the hallmark of leadership or indeed management is to be mature and capable enough to accept ultimate responsibility for the acts of commission (and omission) of the people he or she has been elected or appointed to lead or manage.

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  42. David September 14, 2016 at 11:21 AM #

    Does the Auditor General, a manager, for example not produce a report that is laid in parliament annually? What have the leaders done for the past decade plus?

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  43. chad99999 September 14, 2016 at 11:21 AM #

    I wish more politicians in Barbados would write their memoirs once they retire. Senior civil servants too.
    Many of them would tell you that it was impossible to get rid of bad ministers (party norms about loyalty, loss of party and government secrets, compassionate and financial considerations). Impossible to get rid of non-performing civil servants and teachers (pushback from unions, political fallout). Yet people expect the government to deliver, no matter what.
    I once had a relative who was the permanent secretary in the Ministry of Health for a time. The medications and some of the equipment ordered for the QEH were disappearing faster than replacements could be obtained, and the budget was exhausted. What could be done? If hospital staff lack integrity and do not behave responsibly, are you going to blame the politicians?

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  44. millertheannunaki September 14, 2016 at 12:07 PM #

    @ chad99999 September 14, 2016 at 11:21 AM
    “What could be done? If hospital staff lack integrity and do not behave responsibly, are you going to blame the politicians?”

    How about when the same politicians send their friends, family members and political yard-fowls for so-called jobs in the public sector that they are glaringly unsuited and poorly equipped to perform and either do not exist or cannot be justified using the same principles of your type of Management?

    How about the same politicians arranging the award of contracts, consultancy and finders fees to their political friends and elections financiers while asking in Lowedown style for their 5 or 10% cut?

    What about the ‘protection’ given by these same politicians to the likes of Greenverbs Parris after stealing and laundering millions from savers and pensioners?

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  45. Bush Tea September 14, 2016 at 12:41 PM #

    Is Chad999 serious about his relative…?

    What is to be done?????
    …Identify the culprits..
    …Fix the problems…
    …monitor the situation..
    …and this should have started BEFORE the problem became a crisis …if your relative had ANY credibility in holding that position.

    Shiite!!…. Don’t tell Bushie that Chad drinking Toronto water too…

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  46. ac September 14, 2016 at 12:58 PM #

    What i would like to know when it become ok for mudd rackers of the WW&C type to flood social media with unproven allegations.
    It is unimaginative that h
    such loud and boisterous opinions on ever thing under the sun is never challenged by the so called intellectual who always preach about accountability and transparency.
    This person whover it!she or him maybe is a poor excuse for truth

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  47. pieceuhderockyeahright September 14, 2016 at 1:18 PM #

    @ Chad

    You are slipping truthfully.

    Here you are relating this corruption matter so nonchalantly particularly so when your relative is involved yet, just a few weeks ago, you were into your Starsky and Crutch “Marrion Barry sting”

    “Backbone ” for which you’re quick to chide our resident luminary quickly about, should shine through in all your dealings given that you now seek to be part of the 300 Spartans who fight against the horde and whore called the DLP

    We should have long ago heard about the case against the teifs at the QEH which you championed, in the Nation Newspaper as normally, as opposed to this reported speech now being employed

    This morning I found myself agreeing with the optimal configurations you were suggesting but I realize now that while you are strong on what should be, like me, and many others here, you are quite weak on how do we get there for were such the case, you and your relative would have long exposed the teif

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  48. Well Well & Consequences September 14, 2016 at 2:36 PM #

    “Many of them would tell you that it was impossible to get rid of bad ministers (party norms about loyalty, loss of party and government secrets, compassionate and financial considerations).”

    Chad…that is straight from your post…and you still dont see where ministers are to be held accountable for their corrupt actions or lack of positive action that should mirror the salaries they are being paid…by taxpayers.

    Am I missing something or did you just unknowingly contradict yaself.

    Is there not a minister of health overseeing the hospital, is that not what the minister is paid for…overseeing the hospital and health….. when Inniss was minister of health, he hired this indian doctor who had a practice in the UK….it was in the newspapers that this doctor was being paid more than Dexter James, but yet he only visited Barbados a few times and when he was actually in the island, was shut up in his office with Inniss, while his executive assistant, a nurse, not a doctor…did all the work…., so if Inniss can hire a doctor with a practice in the UK….using taxpayer’s money, who did very little or nothing for that money, till he got fed up and left completely. ..why couldnt Inniss, minister of health…oversee the hospital…which completely deteriorated under Inniss’ watch.

    The retarded ACs…what you complsining about, I have not even gotten started yet, but ya can bet everything I am saying has been in the newspapers at one time or the other

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  49. Prodigal Son September 14, 2016 at 3:32 PM #

    @ Well Well & Consequences September 14, 2016 at 7:56 AM #

    That’s why it’s not difficult to understand…the civil service manages the daily rut, are more versed in procedures, cause ministers have short shelf lives, the civil servants are handed down the laws by legislators…….civil servants will obviously alwsys have more experience and skills than any old or new politian/minister…..so what the hell does anyone need a minister for, they should not even be paid.

    Track Record:

    Minister at QEH…FAIL

    Minister at water authority….FAIL

    Minister at Transport Board….FAIL

    Minister at attorney generals office…..FAIL

    Minister at Ministry 8f Education……FAIL

    Minister of International Business…..FAIL

    Minister at PMs office…….FAIL

    …….did I forget anyone……………………………..

    Let’s add:

    Minister of the Environment……FAIL

    Minister of Energy……FAIL

    Minister of Housing …….FAIL

    Minister of Labour………FAIL

    Speaker of the House……FAIL

    Chairman of Committees……….FAIL

    All damn failures!

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  50. Prodigal Son September 14, 2016 at 3:56 PM #

    @acSeptember 14, 2016 at 9:38 AM #

    “The reality is that there is no magic bullet or quick solution to the water problem despite the many noises or call fir resignations”…………….
    ……………………………………………..

    Damn hypocrite!

    You dems had all the answers, you knew how to win elections, you dems are so good at the bloody politics but never had a clue how to manage or govern the country.

    We will never let you forget your arrogancy which started way back in 2008 when you idiots thought that your were emboldened by the electorate to do as you like and share away the wealth of this country in the form of sharing the fatted calf for those who stayed the course with the DLP……………”we dont want to hear nothing from wunnah, any ideas wunnah got, keep to wunnah selves, wunnah had wunnah time, now is we time and we gine do things we way”…………

    Well, the results of doing things the DLP way is on full display for the world to see……..utter choas and destruction.

    Now that all hell has broken out and you are out to sea in every area of governance, you really have the gall to say that there is no magic bullet or quick solution to fixing the problems this country faces.

    Well we did hear the most incompetent AG ever say on Sunday…….dont blame me!

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  51. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI September 14, 2016 at 4:59 PM #

    De Ole Man Googled the words “politics and the Blame Game” because I was sure that there is nothing new about this perpetual cycle

    It brought back several articles about the ever prevalent finger pointing exercises that both sides of the tribes engage in

    The Hindu article “Political parties play the blame game” by NAGESH PRABHU read like if it were David Estwick in India

    it goes “A blame game has begun in Karnataka among major political parties after the Mahadayi Water Disputes Tribunal (MWDT) rejected Karnataka’s interim petition seeking 7 tmcft of water for the Kalasa-Banduri Nala project on Wednesday…”

    THis just goes to underscore the fact that while the clime might change, or the race might change, or the century might change and the tools might have their technological advancements and delivery mechanisms upgraded, the issues remain the same.

    And so do the accusations.

    Even in places like Norway or Scandinavia there are still issues and bickering and reasons to lay blame on the incumbent government.

    But therein lies the stark difference for whereas over the course of years, these societies seek to improve their lot and to make advancements we seem to be in blight mode and each successive government relinquishes another heirloom to the invading hordes.

    @ 2016 we are bickering over the DLP legacy of ineptitude while, “right before our very eyes” the ownership of the landscape is changing and Barbados is ceding all its assets to “foreigners” slowly and insidiously until, very soon, none of this will be ours.

    These field and Hills WILL NOT BE EFFING OURS.

    THe reasons that the DLP MUST BE VOTED OUT IN ITS ENTIRETY should not only be to reward them for their two terms of ineptitude!!

    It is to send a message to Mia and her group that this 5 year shyte is not working and that we, THE PEOPLE, have the power to change all of this WHEN THAT MOMENT COMES.

    Further, if she really wants to make her new cohorts accountable, she must have the Power of Recall enshrined in our constitution, because, given the shyte that these DLP effers did, this would be the single recourse that permits the Bajan people to release MPs of their incompetence at the reigns.

    After a while, these instigators like George C. Brathwaite can only “yank our chain so much with these emotive topics and get that reaction that he and his party are seeking i.e. “this is what the effers have done”

    And we like Pavlov’s dog, dutifully respond to that goading and repeat it like a chant – 50 times!!.

    But the thing that is becoming extremely evident in our ongoing chant is that while everyone is on “the band wagon for change” and decrying the DLP effers, very few are proposing counter mechanisms that HOLD THIS PARTY IN WAITING, ACCOUNTABLE.

    We are without doubt going to vote out every single one of the DLP effers but then what??

    Where is the meat that shows any of us “Time for a Change” advocates that The Covenant of Hope is any different to the Pathways to Progress???

    I am the first to concur that the DLP hates this Barbados Underground forum with a passion given its impact on the minds of thousands of thinking/discerning? Bajans but, at the end of the day, what the ef are we doing really?

    We cry out the DLP which only was able to run an election campaign and not run the business of government and we vote in the BLP which, to all intents and purposes, given the people that they are running, e.g. Sandra Husbands et al, have NEVER SHOWN, even while running the Small Business Association of barbados, any ability to make the shyte work.

    Again here is my cry to Mottley.

    You need to seriously revamp the incoming party candidates and show definitively, right now, that the team that you have around you is not like the DLP Dream effing Team but yours are doers.

    Take down the trackers on your site as well. cause anytime dat de ole man go to a site and find anything that smacks of monitoring you know tings that are not the normal polldaddy, and typefont, and scorecardresearch for the likes and dislikes, de ole man gine publicize it

    In fact all of wunna users need to get serious about using the internet though

    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37359470

    Toymakers fined for tracking children online

    “Three toymakers and a children’s TV broadcaster have been penalised after their sites were found to contain cookies and other tracking tech.”

    “The New York attorney general said the four firms involved had agreed to pay penalties totalling $835,000 (£630,000) as a consequence.”

    It is time that wunna get serious about protecting your online usage.

    Wunna does come here and browse and then leave and go to Dumbville’s Porn Site with the big bubbie womens and wunna have not got a clue that when you leave BU dat BU has the capacity to track all the places that you going to.

    Wunna need to get VPN software on your machine to help with your browsing, phone calls/VOIP and all of the other kinky things wunna does do e.g. ordering victoria secrets (ostensibly for the wife, but wearing dem youself heheheheheheh) and de purported board 14 inch appendages dat some people still ordering mid you de ole man ent say Pigrim or WeJonesing or….

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  52. Hants September 14, 2016 at 6:38 PM #

    BREAKING NEWS. Bajans buying back?

    “THE OWNER OF Channell Supermarkets Inc., Ronald “Tony” Catlyn has reached agreement with ANSA McAL (Barbados) Ltd. to purchase the Trimart Supermarket chain as a going concern.”

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/85501/channell-supermarkets-owner-buys-trimart-chain#sthash.upfAv7Rz.dpuf

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  53. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI September 14, 2016 at 7:32 PM #

    But sine we are on the subject of Blame we must not forget…..

    Not one Effing Seat…

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  54. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI September 14, 2016 at 7:50 PM #

    and so that he should not be alone, here is the second 1/2 of the dynamic duo.

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  55. Well Well & Consequences September 15, 2016 at 2:33 AM #

    Time for bajans to start working on taking back the island.

    Time to get rid of this useless government. …completely.

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