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Letter Marked Urgent Dispatched to Chief Town Planner Mark Cummins From David Comissiong

Mark Cummins - Chief Town Planner Photo credit: Nation

Mark Cummins – Chief Town Planner Photo credit: Nation

DAVID A. COMISSIONG, LLB (U.W.I) L.E.C (Hugh Wooding Law School)

Attorney-at-Law

4th August 2016

Mr. Mark Cummins

Chief Town Planner

Town and Country Development Planning Office

The Garrison, St. Michael

Dear Sir

Re: The proposed construction of a 15 storey Hyatt Hotel at Carlisle Bay

I write to you in my capacity as a Citizen of Barbados.

As a result of news reports published in the Nation and Advocate newspapers of Wednesday 27th July 2016, I learnt that on Tuesday the 26th of July 2016 – Barbados’ “Day of National Significance” – Barbadian businessman Mark Maloney, Minister of Tourism Richard Sealy, Minister of Finance Chris Sinckler, and one Patrick Mc Cudden, senior Vice President of the American multi-national company known as Hyatts Hotel and Resorts, staged a so-called “signing ceremony” and informed the Barbadian people that in two months time Hyatts Hotel and Resorts and its local partner, Visions Development Inc. (Mr. Mark Maloney’s company), will be commencing the construction of a massive fifteen (15) storey hotel at Carlisle Bay, Lower Bay Street, within the precincts of the UNESCO designated world heritage site of historic Bridgetown and its Garrison, and abutting Barbadians’ beloved Browne’s Beach.

And subsequently, in the Wednesday 2rd August 2016 Editorial of the Nation Newspaper, I (and all other Barbadians) were informed by the Nation’s editorial writer that this project had received the “all-clear” from the relevant authority, and had met “a range of stringent stipulations, whether environmental or structural”.

As a result of the foregoing, I made my way to the Town and Country Development Planning Office on the afternoon of Wednesday 3rd August 2016 and asked to see the Public Register in which you are required (under Section 17 of the Town and Country Planning Act) to record information relating to applications for planning permission, “including information as to the manner in which such applications have been dealt with.”

As a result of perusing the Public Register I discovered that the relevant application for permission to erect the said hotel was filed by Visions Development Inc. on the 30th of March 2015, and that it bears application number 0445/03/2015B.

I also discovered that the section of the Public Register which deals with “Consultations” carried out in relation to the Application, and the section which records the “Decisions” made in respect of the said Application, were both BLANK !

So much then for the Nation Newspaper’s Editorial writer’s assertion that the project had met a range of stipulations and had received the “all-clear.”

(One is left to wonder why the Nation Newspaper has published such misleading information about this matter ! One is also left to wonder how Mark Maloney– in the presence of Ministers Sealy and Sinckler– could state that the construction of the hotel would DEFINITELY be starting in two months time! Clearly something is not right here ! )

Now, since it is clear that the “Consultation” process is not yet over, and that no decision has yet been made in relation to this application to erect a 15 storey Hyatt hotel at Carlisle Bay, I wish to draw the following to your attention :-

1) Some five (5) years ago I was approached by the prominent Barbadian business consultant who is behind this scheme of constructing “foreign brand-name hotels” in Carlisle Bay, and he informed me that Browne’s Beach is much too valuable an asset to be reserved for the Barbadian people, and that the plan is to construct five or six “foreign brand-name hotels” right across the length of Browne’s Beach.

2) Furthermore, during the 26th of July 2016 “signing ceremony”, Mr. Mark Maloney advised the Barbadian people that the massive 15 storey Hyatt hotel is just the beginning of a proliferation of new hotel development in Carlisle Bay!

3) Browne’s Beach is the central and extensive beach embedded in Carlisle Bay, and is an historic beach that is of tremendous value and service to the people of Barbados in general, and to the poor predominantly black working-class Barbadians who inhabit the many over-crowded, and in some cases slum-like, neighbouring communities of the City of Bridgetown and the greater St. Michael area. Indeed, for many impoverished and over-stressed working-class Barbadians Browne’s Beach is their place of refuge and relaxation, their natural spa and health clinic!

4) The construction of a massive 15 storey Hyatt hotel in Carlisle Bay (abutting Browne’s Beach) – to say nothing of the other 4 or 5 “foreign brand-name hotels” that are being planned for Browne’s Beach – is certain to destroy the very character of Browne’s Beach and to turn it into an “alien zone” in which the ordinary Barbadian no longer feels comfortable or welcome. In other words, we will run the risk of Browne’s Beach being transformed into one of your typical West Coast beaches – beaches that native Barbadians feel no longer belong to them.

5) There is also the issue of the height and size of the proposed Hyatt hotel. The highest building in Barbados is the Central Bank – a building that is some nine storeys tall. Is it really sensible to erect in Carlisle Bay, within the precincts of our UNESCO designated World Heritage site, an American hotel that will dwarf and dominate every other building in Bridgetown? Please bear in mind that this hotel will be more than one and a half times the height of the Central Bank of Barbados! Won’t it significantly undermine the World heritage status of historic Bridgetown and its Garrison?

6) And how do you engage in the type of deep and extensive pile-driving that will be required to construct a foundation for a towering 15 storey building without emitting vibrations that will do serious damage to such neighbouring historic buildings as the Bethel Methodist Church, St. Patrick’s Cathedral and St. Paul’s Anglican Church?

In light of the foregoing I am hereby requesting – nay, demanding – that this application for Town and Country Planning permission to construct this proposed 15 storey hotel be subjected to a most rigorous and comprehensive “Environmental Impact Assessment” procedure, inclusive of a “Social Impact Assessment” study.

I have learnt from the News Media that some consultations are on-going with the Barbados National Trust in relation to the implications of the proposed project for Bridgetown’s UNESCO world heritage site status.

However, what I am requesting goes way beyond such a narrowly based impact assessment!

I am requesting – first and foremost – that the people of the neighbouring communities be consulted in Town Hall meetings, and through relevant sociological surveys and assessments. And when I refer to “the neighbouring communities” I am referring to virtually all of the residential communities of the City of Bridgetown and southern St. Michael. I am also requesting that consultations be held with the churches and the various community groups and social clubs of the affected communities, as well as with the several environmental and heritage preservation organizations of Barbados.

I am also requesting serious and wide-ranging investigations of the possible dangers to other buildings in the vicinity of the proposed hotel, as well as  an investigation into possible negative impacts on the aesthetics and amenities of the entire city of Bridgetown. ( And while you are at it, perhaps you can draw to the attention of your governmental colleague, the Chief Immigration Officer, the negative implications of  the Hyatt Hotel’s vice- President’s bold assertion that ALL senior posts at the hotel will initially be filled by expatriates !)

And even through it may only be the opinion of one Citizen of Barbados, please permit me to state for the record that I am convinced that Barbados will be making a grave mistake if it permits such a priceless national asset as Browne’s beach to fall into the hands of foreign multi-national companies and to become the location of out-sized foreign-owned hotels, rather than to be reserved for indigenous Barbadian entrepreneurs and for locally owned hotels, guest houses and related facilities that fit snugly into the national environment, and that radiate the unique charm, culture and hospitality of Barbados and Barbadians!

It is with this conviction that I now hereby call upon you and the Town and Country Development Planning Office to engage in the Environmental Impact Assessment measures outlined and requested above in relation to the Town and Country Planning application reference number 0445/03/2015B.

I now look forward to hearing from you as a matter of urgency.

Yours faithfully,

David A. Comissiong

P.S Please take note that in light of the dire implications that this matter has for the entire population of Barbados, I am taking the liberty of sharing the contents of this letter with my fellow citizens.

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202 Comments on “Letter Marked Urgent Dispatched to Chief Town Planner Mark Cummins From David Comissiong”

  1. Pachamama August 6, 2016 at 8:27 AM #

    @ Bushie

    Your point about internal or albino-centric thinking within co-operatives is right.

    for example, we tried to refocus members away from buying so many cars and other items

    which concentrated resources into the same hands, with limited success then.

    our idea was to own a dealership but could not get the rule changes

    We can better work in such a system, like we have done before, to spur development.

    We have found that if one has a mind to genuinely help the people without looking for a reward yourself the people will respond positively.

    especially if they can call you to a meeting anytime to drag you over the coals – LOL

    past successes will also help and the movement now has that

    we were there before, we know this too well, we’re afraid.

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  2. Well Well & Consequences August 6, 2016 at 10:14 AM #

    Look MoneyB. ..don’t let it kill ya…lol

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  3. Frustrated Businessman aka 'Nation of Laws' my ass. August 6, 2016 at 10:29 AM #

    David August 5, 2016 at 4:36 PM #
    Agree with Bizzy on Del Mastro. Approve the project for them but approve for local as well.

    Dal Mastro paid allot more bribe money that Bizzy is likely ever to have access to. If the Canadians continue their prosecution of Dal Mastro principals the project might never happen.

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  4. David August 6, 2016 at 10:34 AM #

    @Frustrated Businessman

    Where is the impact study for the solar farm in Waterford?

    Have we had a town hall?

    We want to hear from minister Donville Inniss who seem to be sponsoring this Mastro project.

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  5. Gabriel August 6, 2016 at 11:13 AM #

    @John Chapman
    Do you have a copy of the newspaper supplement of the Pierhead Project?As I recall it,the proposed hotel/condo was located at the Pierhead itself,that is in the vicinity of the old baggage warehouse,not near the boatyard.If you have access to a copy of the supplement,can you share it with the BU household.

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  6. David August 6, 2016 at 11:23 AM #

    @Gabriel, is this the graphic you are asking?

    Pierhead Marina LANDSIDE B HR

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  7. Tony Rudder August 6, 2016 at 11:56 AM #

    A very clear and concise argument for maintaining the status quo, allowing Bajan citizens to enjoy their environment, and long may it continue. Once again , well said David.

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  8. Hants August 6, 2016 at 12:06 PM #

    “The Government of Barbados has also announced plans to revive the Pierhead Marina project in the capital city of Bridgetown which would greatly improve the island’s yachting capabilities and to develop this niche market in the country’s tourism sector.”

    http://2016.export.gov/Caribbean/eg_car_091069.asp

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  9. Gabriel August 6, 2016 at 12:12 PM #

    David
    That is not the original concept as published in the days’ newspapers for all to see and study.It embraced the entire lower Bay St environs,the lower Fairchild St,Probyn St area now occupied by the block of the old Coles Garage building to the old Paul Foster Travel,the old Plantations building called Sunjet House and the old Empire building,and the Lower Bay St area up to the esplanade as I recall.That concept was circa 1992.

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  10. Hants August 6, 2016 at 12:17 PM #

    @ Gabriel,

    Let google be your friend. There are several design concepts for the “Pierhead” marina projects.

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  11. Hants August 6, 2016 at 12:36 PM #

    You could install Google Earth on your computer.

    It is a very useful tool.

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  12. Freedom Crier August 6, 2016 at 12:55 PM #

    What is Truly Mind Boggling is that they are those who are Blinded by the Very Ones whose Intent it is to Deceive them!!!

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  13. pieceuhderockyeahright August 6, 2016 at 2:09 PM #

    @ Bush Tea

    Without a Doubt this Sand Nigger is a plant to Disrupt BU

    What the Ef you C Kay does Obama have to do with an issue of a 15 storey building being placed in a historical property?

    She is either mad, stupid or a Bajan who, because of being denied a visa to America under the Obama term, is bent on disparaging the United States of Murica

    Of course she could be all three, TOGETHER

    If Angelique the Mugabe-ite will put up the petition for banning the The Murica Weeper, I will sign that one.

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  14. Gabriel August 6, 2016 at 2:09 PM #

    Fearful freedom C..vnt
    I won’t be surprised if you posted that Trump’s present wife posed in the nude and was featured on the front page of the NY Post this week.Now if Michelle had done that you,Fox News and the Tea Party would be fit to be hog tied ennit.

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  15. Well Well & Consequences August 6, 2016 at 2:18 PM #

    Bizzy, Cow, Bjerkham, Maloney need to get government contracts from the politicians/ministers to take to the banks to borrow money to pay the government ministers bribes…lol

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  16. Freedom Crier August 6, 2016 at 2:53 PM #

    Well Well & Consequences August 6, 2016 at 10:14 AM #

    “Look MoneyB. ..don’t let it kill ya…lol

    The 44th president of the United States, Barack Obama, has a birthday coming up. Born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, Obama’s life story contains a journey of remarkable financial success. Raised by a single mother and his grandparents, Obama worked his way through college….”

    pieceuhderockyeahright August 6, 2016 at 2:09 PM #

    “@ Bush Tea

    What the Ef you C Kay does Obama have to do with an issue of a 15 storey building being placed in a historical property”?

    pieceuh…. Maybe you should ask your friend above …Just Setting the Record Straight!!!

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  17. Freedom Crier August 6, 2016 at 3:12 PM #

    @ pieceuh…. This Is For You and Yours.

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  18. Piece Uh De Roch Yeah Right -INRI August 7, 2016 at 5:06 AM #

    @ Sand Nigger

    I note that you from time to time emote quite well and incredibly use rational thought to support your irrational rant on socialism. Ergo the Churchill quote.

    For your benefit and that of your four well wishers or is that five?, ( I am not sure if this blog lets you vote for yourself) I will do your customary “cut and paste” practice, an indication of your paucity of intellectual grey matter

    “China’s crackdown, which started last year, has targeted the country’s small human rights advocacy movement and involved lawyers tackling cases to do with freedom of speech, religion or abuses of power….”

    The larger BBC article can be found by a google of the excerpt, you are expert at such googles so have at it

    But I will explain its relevance for those like you who are slow.

    One. This article is posted by one of the 3 legal activists on BU WHO POST UNDER THEIR REAL NAME unlike you And me Sand Nigger.

    Two. The full letter, barring quotes of reported speech, is a result of a person who, having gone to school, something that you seem to have done rarely, finds themselves capable of distilling what they were taught and presenting such as logical original thought.

    Three. “Cockroach nah wise to go Chicken party” deals with appropriateness of personnel and/or venue. Your idiotic rant on socialism, in this corner, is an insult to blog manners/etiquette but I invite you to continue in that mode because the Honourable Blogmaster will deal with you in due course.

    Four. Well Well and Consequences posts here prolifically but, and I can only assume this, seems to be speaking to an aside that Hants? remarked on in another? blog perhaps. The salient fact is that she DOES NOT DO THAT EVERY SINGLE BLOG, EVERY EFFING TIME!!

    Five. The fact is that you are a very simple person.

    And I will be kind with my explanation of that statement and not call you the badword that is on my lips for your patented stupidity.

    Others who are contending with David Commissiong’s opposition to the 15 storey building in the World Site spoke to forex, job creation, ancillary economic activities etc.

    “Proposal and counter, proposal and counter” which, for the most part, is consistent with reasonable discourse, presentation of the whys and the why nots that rational people utilize.

    It is obvious that you are an avowed capitalist but it is totally impossible for one to link your Obama hating, Hillary bull shy*e with this blog.

    And frankly, being the effing cyber bully that PPK and others state that I am, I shall be your Huckleberry and tell you that you are very simple border on well…….

    Six. The other four pokey hairs that “liked you” did not like you as per the rational content of your submission, such “likes” were, and are, “contra Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right, the opinionated sanctimonious ole man who tinks he knows everything”

    That is the sad thing about us Bajans.

    We are incapable of seeing that the activism that Come Sing A Song is prosecuting here, and in other salient matters, is based on rights and law and the fact that a segment of our society isbreaking the law AND THAT SUCH ACTION, LEFT ALONE TO THRIVE, IS THE VERY EFFING THING THAT CHURCHILL WHOSE PICTURE YOU COPIED SPOKE AGAINST !!!

    That dufus is what he meant in this now immortal? speech that I now copy for the benefit your ignorant self and your fellow voters “We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender….”

    This is what men and women do who love our little country, SAND NIGGER, they stand up against the tyrannical draconian despots like Fumbles and Mugabe and Hyatt building in a restricted historically protected UNESCO site.

    But dis ole man knows that all this will be lost on you, and we will see another Hillary set uh pup copied quite soon

    So leh de ole man mek a Marxist/Leninist/Che dictatorial prediction, “befo’ Hillary becomes the next President of the United States, I predict dat you going be gone from this site Sand Nigger”

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  19. Well Well & Consequences August 7, 2016 at 5:42 AM #

    Piece…that is why I dont read the Sand *igger…he, she, it is such an idiot…lol

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  20. ac August 7, 2016 at 9:08 AM #

    Fidel Castro used nationalism very well to strike fear in the hearts of the cuban people against foreign investment (bogey man)in his country and as they say the rest is history . Today he fondly sits at the right hand side of those he mostly fear looking for assistance for a state which has become dilapidated and many of the citizens who did not take to the high seas looking for a better life are living in poverty and begging govt for bread
    I say the above as testimony that at times we can become our own worst enemy as exemplified by those who are pretentious in thought word and deed wanting champagne taste but having mauby pockets , or the guy who insist that the property he owns must remained in the family as was purposed when the termites have all but eaten it to the ground even after giving several lucrative offers to dispose of it
    Hopefully in years to come nothing of which i say would be a reflection or come true to this piece of 166sq miles

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  21. ac August 7, 2016 at 9:10 AM #

    Cock A doodle PDYR rise and shine have you put ac name in lights on your billboard today

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  22. Anonymice - TheGazer August 7, 2016 at 9:14 AM #

    @ac
    I do not know much about socialism or communism but it seems to me as if you would deprive the guy of his termite farm and use his land in a different manner. Seem as if you are advocating some kind of socialism there….

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  23. David August 7, 2016 at 9:26 AM #

    Castro used ‘nationalism’ to get his people to creatively respond to the vaccum created when they had to kick the Americans out of Cuba because they were ravishing the natural resources and infecting it’s rich culture. Half a century later we have seen the result, trade restrictions being relaxed and they have a say as well. The world is ready to move on. You bray about communism yet the America you love list China as a preferred trading partner.

    JA

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  24. ac August 7, 2016 at 9:48 AM #

    David August 7, 2016 at 9:26 AM #

    Castro used ‘nationalism’ to get his people to creatively respond to the vaccum created when they had to kick the Americans out of Cuba because they were ravishing the natural resources and infecting it’s rich culture. Half a century later we have seen the result, trade restrictions being relaxed and they have a say as well. The world is ready to move on. You bray about communism yet the America you love list China as a preferred trading partner.

    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    Just maybe Castro own interest over exceeded his better expectations for the people and country . As we engaged the same is happening in Venezuela

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  25. Donna August 7, 2016 at 9:48 AM #

    Piece,

    Five thumbs is still in attendance! LOL.

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  26. ac August 7, 2016 at 9:54 AM #

    Anonymice your logic befuddles me

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  27. David August 7, 2016 at 9:54 AM #

    And there is the alternative narrative you will not be able to fine on CNN.

    But there is another narrative, favored by the government and the pro-Chavista social movements and civil society sectors, which, it is important to stress, are independent of the government. This perspective can loosely be called the economic war thesis. It explains the crisis in terms of the economic and social dynamics at play outside policy and governmental action. It holds that business sectors friendly to the opposition are waging an aggressive and protracted campaign of economic sabotage to deliberately stir up social unrest to destabilize and discredit the governing Chavista bloc and in the ensuing chaos bring about an end to the PSUV government and the installation of a new one made up of opposition parties. The central pillars of the economic war thesis are that these hostile sectors have been engaging in acts such as hoarding and price speculation and have purposely generated scarcity in pursuit of calculated chaos.

    http://www.coha.org/the-other-explanation-for-venezuelas-economic-crisis-2/

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  28. Donna August 7, 2016 at 10:00 AM #

    Why not just enjoy the comic relief for a split second and scroll down? If I can do it ANYBODY can. Nobody with half of a brain will be persuaded by her and nobody with less than half of a brain will take the time to read her posts.

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  29. Alvin Cummins August 7, 2016 at 10:15 AM #

    @David Commissiong,
    “….poor predominantly black working-class Barbadians who inhabit the many over-crowded, and in some cases slum-like, neighbouring communities of the City of Bridgetown and the greater St. Michael area. Indeed, for many impoverished and over-stressed working-class Barbadians Browne’s Beach is their place of refuge and relaxation, their natural spa and health clinic!”
    David, progress cannot occur by standing still. All like you are calling for progress, but yet do not want to take the steps necessary to achieve this objective. A diabetic cannot get better without strict changes in the lifestyle. Nelson street and its environs is, and has been for generations, a slum, and now, drug haven. The building of hotels on the waterfront, which happens in all countries with these resources, is an economic fact, almost a necessity. OSA enunciated this when he pointed out that “land should achieve its highest economic value'” How could this be done without building valuable properties on this area. If hotels desire to establish there, they should not be discouraged. The entire country benefits. All that is required is that locals have access to the beaches. This is easily accomplished by putting in any agreement the understanding that ALL beaches are accessible by all Barbadians. We should not remain living in poverty when we have thousands, nay millions of dollars available to us.
    By the way 15 stories is not Massive. The Burge-al Arabia in AbuDhabi is over 1000 feet high. It is a five star hotel and that small country attracts over 10 million visitors a year. Why are you afraid of progress? Why didn’t you raise such objections when The Four Seasons project was posited by Pemberton and group and approved by the OSA government

    .

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  30. ac August 7, 2016 at 10:19 AM #

    Yes David there are varying sides to the stories but in the ensuing arguments the relevancy comes down to good goverance and not what is in the best interest of some but a governance that provides a footing that can accomplish much leaving no stone upturned that would pulled at the nations conscience causing devastation as what has happened in Cubam
    There are are many ways in a deovracy to thread a needle unlike socialist govts who depends on a large dose of nationalism as the only way forward not going to work never will

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  31. Gabriel August 7, 2016 at 10:26 AM #

    Alvin
    You never cease to amaze.Do not compare apples with oranges.Hyatt and 4 Seasons are 2 completely different concepts and locales.You never cease to prove yourself to be the proverbial octogenarian JA you are.Another stupid Dem.

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  32. David August 7, 2016 at 10:27 AM #

    @Alvin Cummins

    Barbados is a SID, we shouldn’t measure development based on what is done in Canada read socalled First World countries.

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  33. Gabriel August 7, 2016 at 10:32 AM #

    There is no reason why every Barbadian should not be living in decent wholesome housing in Barbados.Governement over the years have collected enough taxes to do so.The same way the US can give Israel 4 billion dollars a year in aid and they use it to remove the rightful owners of land and build decent housing for Israelis,a similar treatment can be done for the Caribbean countries,all of which are still under developed in housing and infrastructure.

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  34. David August 7, 2016 at 10:39 AM #

    Systems of governments and how they have evolved and continue to do so must be understood in a historical context. A perspective shaped by living in the USA the land of unbridled conspicuous consumption will trapped you in a tunnel labelled myopia.

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  35. Alvin Cummins August 7, 2016 at 10:57 AM #

    @ac,
    What Castro and the ordinary people did for Cuba was necessary and needed. One has to remember what Cuba was like before; illiteracy, atrocious health conditions, poverty, under the imperial hand of the Americans who regarded it as the whorehouse of this hemisphere. The suffering of the people before ‘Castro kept the remedy from being considered as excessive. A purgative is necessary to correct constipation. It may be unpleasant but gets the job done. The people have rid themselves of a colonial and imperialist power and are self sufficient. When they can afford it the luxuries will gradually come in. Viva Cuba y la revolution.!!!The people of Venezuela are also being subjected to the type of economic war that was waged to punish Cuba for throwing off the imperialist mantle.

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  36. Alvin Cummins August 7, 2016 at 11:19 AM #

    Gabriel, and David.
    Gabriel don’t get me started on the relationship between the USA and the stat of Israel. Israel is a surrogate of the U.S. and is the outpost in the Middle that is necessary for them to maintain in the area they would love to control. I won’t get into that discussion at this time. Of course the concepts behind the Hyatt and the Four Seasons ar completely different. The Pemberton Group (scammers that Well Well always talk about)foisted their concept on a group of wealthy investors. Unfortunately the financial meltdown reduced the capacity of many of these investors to maintain the strength of they investments. That is why the project collapsed. The considerations regarding the Hyatt ar4e completely different. And I fully understand them. However you try the beach created by nature can never have the same”pristine” innocence that existed in our youth. It is now a valuable resource and will bw exploited, whether today or tomorrow, but it can never be allowed to sty unused. As a World Heritage Site the area surrounding cannot be allowed to become a bigger slum, a more foul smelling ghetto, and a denizen of the dark for the nefarious. The whole area must be dragged kicking and screaming into the shower and cleaned up. That whole space from Dulow Lane.on the North around River Road and back up Bay street and everything contained therein must be cleaned up and rebuilt. And don’t talk about taxes as if the taxes paid alone could solve that problem.
    Living in North America and first world countries opens ones eyes to what can be accomplished and what is needed. It is time that folks learn to understand the perspective from which those who have lived in these places offer their suggestions. Donkeys wore blinkers which limited their vision. They could only see straight ahead. Living in North america removes these blinkers and one has a wider perspective, and sees all possibilities.

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  37. David August 7, 2016 at 11:25 AM #

    @Alvin

    Why not restore the Empire Theatre. Better still why not give it to the Creatives to put on shows/plays to lure people to Bridgetown. Will the Hyatt attract locals to Bridgetown, in the evenings?

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  38. Gabriel August 7, 2016 at 11:59 AM #

    Alvin
    Your argument that 4 Seasons failed because….,,’unfortunately,the financial meltdown reduced the capacity of many investors to maintain the strength of their investments’….is to quote Philip Greaves “hogwash”.Since you no longer reside here let me wiser you up.The 4 Seasons project failed because of interference from David Thompson and the DLP then in opposition,and it’s extended brothers in arms,Leroy Trotman and the BWU.
    Thompson in Opposition berated and abused foreign investors only to sing a different song when in government and sending a local Indian lackey with an affected Oxford accent flying all over the the globe seeking investors for that said project.I was here,I know it all.I don’t give bullshitters a free past.

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  39. Gabriel August 7, 2016 at 12:01 PM #

    Wisen……free pass

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  40. Freedom Crier August 7, 2016 at 12:06 PM #

    Alvin Cummins August 7, 2016 at 10:15 AM #
    @David Commissiong,
    David, progress cannot occur by standing still. All like you are calling for progress, but yet do not want to take the steps necessary to achieve this objective… If hotels desire to establish there, they should not be discouraged. The entire country benefits.

    Alvin Cummins August 7, 2016 at 10:57 AM #
    @ac,
    What Castro and the ordinary people did for Cuba was necessary and needed.…

    The Above seems to be written by Two different individuals Mr. Alvin…One is Either For Free Enterprise which your first statement represents. The Second is so Contradictory of Free Enterprise and is supportive of the Cuban Communist Regime… The Cuban people have gone through Hell and Still Live in Hell and the ones who speak out are Jailed!

    Everything works fine until it does not work any longer, as in No food (empty shelves in the Grocery Store), no money, no electricity, no toilet paper, with everything being owned by the State with nothing rippling down to the people, who they have plundered in the first place through uncontrollable Taxation’s and Nationalization! However those at the Top do not wait in line 12 hours to hope to purchase necessities as now what is ensuing in Venezuela.

    If you believe the Scriptures that say, “By Their Fruit You Shall Know Them. Right now we who are in this discussion have lived long enough to see the results of Socialism, Communism et al, as in Venezuela, Cuba, almost South American Countries and in North Korea. (Since China has adopted more Free Market Principles, there Economy has boomed and as they start to exert more Control, their Economy Stagnates).

    What do you think is happening in our very own beloved country of Barbados? Have we witnessed a booming Economy or STAGNATION with EXCESSIVE TAXATION that does not allow the FORMATION of CAPITAL, through ENDLESS REGULATIONS!! We see however endless Derelict Buildings, Garbage reaching the Skies with health hazard risk attached while spreading the word internationally, of the Disarray and Sanitation State by the Tourist visiting our Island, furthering Crippling our open Window Bread Winner of a few months of the year! How about those People lacking for want of Water in certain Areas, but yet we see a huge Government Symbol of a Waterworks Building, which is a prime example of Socialism, that of the water not trickling down to the people!!

    NOW WE WANT TO IMPEDE PROGRESS AND FREE ENTERPRISE, BY CURTAILING DEVELOPMENT BY ENTREPRENEUR? WHAT IS IT COSTING THE PEOPLE OF BARBADOS? NOT ONE DAM THING. THE EXPENSE FOOTED BY THE INVESTORS, WIN OR LOOSE.
    AND THE PLUS IS THAT BARBADIANS WILL BE BETTER OF BY IT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE BY SUCH.

    We in Barbados are just One Chavez Away from Venezuela, so keep wishing for the Cuba/Venezuela Model that would plunge Barbados into FULL BLOWN SOCIALISM. Everything Collapses. Socialism IS A SLOW PROCESS OF DETERIORATION, and the best to you who have their Eyes Open that would not be caught unawares and to those Who Refuse to Recognize what is so Blatantly Staring them in the face, my advice is to “WAKE UP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE”!!

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  41. pieceuhderockyeahright August 7, 2016 at 12:10 PM #

    @ Legion of the five thumbs (all of which are fisted in Fumbles’ badword)

    Oh oh Alvin the other weathervane just did a high foot body shuffle pun you like Pele!!!! while supporting Fidel!!!

    Is their no honour among thieves?

    @ Alvin Cummins

    You sir are an older man who can rather should understand the balance between progress and the destruction of a coastline.

    I remember when…..

    I remember when there was a coastline and Windows to the Sea and unfettered beaches where one could walk barring the Yacht club

    Progress came and the windows disappeared but now we are faced with the monstrosities of 15 stories on an stretch of beachfront that “lies within a world heritage site ”

    I guess that there are for me some issues which I would ask you, a man familiar with the Palm trees along the segregated Belleville, if you cannot see the signs of a New Modernized Belleville, one which clashes with the antiquity upon which the Bridgetown Heritage site is built?

    I hear wunna peeples forging enfranchisement treaties with the 5% shoring up Maloney, Bizzy, and all these brick and mortar and Hard Rock Cement Plagiarists but I have never seen you Alvin made a single concerted effort in discussing any topic to empower black people.

    Nothing that has anything remotely connected with information technology neither you nor the bunch of wasteful foops called the Demonic Lying Party.

    Not a feller ent saying how wunna would like to tek de Empire and repurpose it, with the Assistance of Microsoft, to become an incubator for ICT initiatives.

    All uh wunna sucking pooch for Claire (you more liberally than others) Baloney pooch, del Maestro pooch, tuh whichin as a jailbird his pooch may be wider than others, and the single area of greatest enfranchisement for our youth Mugabe wasted $500 MILLION BDS and not one uh wunna ent doing one shy*e bout.

    I want you to go to page 116 of Dr Keith Holmes’ book Black Inventors “Crafting over 200 Years of Success”

    You will find Dr Cardinal Warde of the Massachusetts Institute listed there. Perform a Google search of his name and patents and you will note that they are ALL jointly held between the goodly doctor and other parties and either MIT or Optron Systems Inc are assignees and a search of the latter site is still looking for investors for patents lodged almost 15

    The point that I put to you with your fossil-like promotions, is that you, and our ministers and Cardinal who leads this government’s information and technology thrust are outdated.

    In his heyday What Cardinal proposed was cutting edge but our country’s ability to have this translate into the legacy of a new generation, new 150 storey buildings that blocks no one’s view but tower for the entire world to see our Technological Hyatt, is fisted deep in the pooches of these men and women whose pooches you come here to suck.

    We are truly effed Alvin Cummins

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  42. Freedom Crier August 7, 2016 at 1:28 PM #

    EXAMPLES OF THE LONG TERM EFFECTS OF SOCIALISM IN OUR MIDST….

    Guyana under Forbes Burnham took a turn for Socialism, to the Demise of Free Enterprise and Guyana’s Economy. As a Bajan would say, and he dead and gone a long time and Guyana is still feeling the effects of that Wrong Turn.

    Jamaica under Norman Manley took a turn to the LEFT and is still feeling the effects. The Jamaica Dollar used to be Stronger than the US$, now is about 160$ to 1$. THAT IS SOCIALISM IN ACTION AND THEY STILL HAVE NOT RECOVERED.

    When I keep Clanging the Bell about Barbados being one Chavez from Venezuela that is only a Current Example, but Guyana and Jamaica are our Caribbean Brothers and Sisters who have gone through Hell because of Failed Socialist Policies and Leadership.

    IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT FOR BARBADOS?

    When Ya See Ya Neighbor House Burn Down Because They Put A Fire Under It, WOULD YOU BE SO STUPID TO STRIKE A MATCH UNDER YOURS?

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  43. balance August 7, 2016 at 1:44 PM #

    “Alvin Cummins August 7, 2016 at 10:57 AM #

    @ac,
    What Castro and the ordinary people did for Cuba was necessary and needed. One has to remember what Cuba was like before; illiteracy, atrocious health conditions, poverty, under the imperial hand of the Americans who regarded it as the whorehouse of this hemisphere. The suffering of the people before ‘Castro kept the remedy from being considered as excessive. A purgative is necessary to correct constipation. It may be unpleasant but gets the job done. The people have rid themselves of a colonial and imperialist power and are self sufficient. When they can afford it the luxuries will gradually come in. Viva Cuba y la revolution.!!!The people of Venezuela are also being subjected to the type of economic war that was waged to punish Cuba for throwing off the imperialist mantle.”

    Despite the ugliness which follows capitalism in its wake; what you have written is absolute hogwash. Cuba is worse off now than then. Go and read the history of Cuba.

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  44. ac August 7, 2016 at 1:44 PM #

    One would have to be living on the outskirts of a reality in refenence to Cuba . yes. castro might be regarded as a revolutionary of an era of place and time. However he was and still is unable to deliver the economic stabily promised under the banner of nationalism he promised and for that reason he would be revered by many as a dictator who ran a valiant race and won acheiving and receiving very little in return to his country and people .
    The episodes of an exodus of his people to those country which he hated and feared the most tells a profound story.

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  45. ac August 7, 2016 at 2:12 PM #

    Notice how Govt is going about with a concerted effort to reach out to the Diaspora. This is not just because of happen stance but a vision for the foreseeable future which would place their hands freely and give them a fair share into the development of barbados which indeed is a sterile way while adressing the issue of nationalism
    Another reason being as of yet those living and dwelling on the country has not step up to the plate and delivered enormously in an effort to safeguard the nations jewels even after receiving the mechanisms of free education to do so
    Yet there are some who belives that barbados economic and social development would be safe and secure without viable financial support methods whlle fooling themselves into believing that barbados long term securitywould be better served without any further outside investment
    The proof is already been seen by Castro Cuba who although beliving in a set ideaology to secure his country future failed miserably to construct a social and economical foundation for his people

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  46. ac August 7, 2016 at 4:27 PM #

    I have no trust in Mr. Comissiong galivants for if he or any one can convinced the law courts of the land that a piece of unfinalised legalislation is the law of the land then he would have little or no more problem convincing a society of lesser intelligentce that his prospects for good goverance are correct and are given high predence within the constitution
    His intelligence is one which can not be watered down or dismiss easily when placed against lesser mortals
    His one forceful and definitive act to convince is synomous to that of walking on water

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  47. Gabriel August 7, 2016 at 5:46 PM #

    Alvin ought to know that pre Castro Cuba was similar to present day Dominican Republic,Venezuela,Colombia,all of South and Central America and that is two distinct classes of people.The rotten rich and the dirt poor.The Middle class is small as compared to the majority of Caribbean islands and territories.Cuba is still known to treat its black brothers with a long hand.

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  48. Freedom Crier August 7, 2016 at 6:11 PM #

    Castro to Pocket 92% of Worker Salaries from Foreign Companies…

    http://www.breitbart.com/…/2014/…/19/castro-to-pock...
    Breitbart News Network

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  49. ac August 7, 2016 at 6:12 PM #

    Yes a very long hand which the blacks would indeed find it very hard to bite off in return for a long sentence in one of Castro dungeons call prison
    One would never hear Comisiong speaking about those kinds of atrocities against his black brothers yet he speaks with much disdain against democratic govts who have given him the freedom of expression which allows himto hail Cubas Castro as a hero in his hastened pursuit to take barbados along the same path of hell and destruction

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  50. Hants August 12, 2016 at 2:07 PM #

    CALL THE CHIEF TOWN PLANNER.

    “But now Jones-Lewis, 80, has been unsettled by a decision of her next door neighbour to erect a chain link fence which has partially blocked access to her home.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/84382/matters-maria-gran-feels-fenced#sthash.OHRmf5g0.dpuf

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  51. Bush Tea August 12, 2016 at 2:43 PM #

    @ balance
    Despite the ugliness which follows capitalism in its wake; what you have written is absolute hogwash. Cuba is worse off now than then. Go and read the history of Cuba.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    How many time does Bushie have to caution you that you CANNOT use terms such as ‘worse off’, ‘better than’ etc UNLESS you can define the GROUNG RULES of life.

    How the hell do you know that Cuba is not significantly MORE in line with the true purpose of life than us or anyone else…?
    …from CNN?

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