Minibus on the go!

PSVs Overcharging

Submitted by Anthony Davis
Michael Lashley, Minister of Transport

Michael Lashley, Minister of Transport

I have a problem with some minibus, ZR drivers and conductors who charge tourists $2.50 as the fare.

The extra money which you get from robbing the tourists will come back to haunt you because when they find out that you have stolen from them they will:

  1. Stop taking minibuses/ZRs
  2. Get the Transport Board buses when they want to get around to see the country
  3. When they return home they will tell their people how thieving you are, and that will give Barbados a bad reputation.

The Ministry of Tourism is not spending millions of taxpayers money on advertising Barbados for you to drag it into the mud.

The minibus/ZR organizations should hold meetings and tell you how much harm you can do do to the island just by charging tourists 50 cents extra.

This nonsense with a few of you doing whatever you like has to stop.

This island is in enough trouble, without you exacerbating the situation!

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68 Comments on “PSVs Overcharging”

  1. Lee July 23, 2016 at 7:19 AM #

    There was obviously a time when Bajans USED to understand consequences ! We have become another careless society. . .

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  2. Well Well & Consequences July 23, 2016 at 7:33 AM #

    The leaders do not care about consequences. ..the people are following their careless and irresponsible leaders…ya have a careless prime minister, AG, tief for speaker of the house, corrupt DPP, none of them show good example…ya have a minster of business playing both sides against the middle….the middle being the people.

    http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2016/07/23/paul-still-in-foul-mood-over-imported-chicken-wings/

    Leadership is lacking on the island. The people follow what they see…in true…”wuh de politicians and everbody doing it..wuh I could do it too.”…..style and fashion.

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  3. David July 23, 2016 at 8:04 AM #

    The owners of the PSVs must accept responsibility for the state of things in the sector. A simple task of coming together under a strong vibrant association seems to be a perennial challenge. On the government side, the ineffectiveness of the Barbados Transport Authority is the other side of the issue. As usual every thing we do is poisoned with politics.

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  4. Anonymice - TheGazer July 23, 2016 at 9:35 AM #

    Trying to rip-off people because they look or sound different is a ‘world-wide’ phenomena. However, when it is your bread and butter then one should exercise a great deal of caution and not put their livelihood in jeopardy.

    The blogger provided three solid reasons why they should not engage in this activity, but number 3 can stand on its own. For a 50 cents here and there. you could lose the spending of several tourists.

    (Given that many of our tourists are from the UK, this is a case of “penny wise, pounds foolish)

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  5. Colonel Buggy July 23, 2016 at 8:13 PM #

    From what a passenger on a ZR van told me, the $2.50 charged to the tourists,is mild compared to what she saw the conductor charged from Bridgetown to Sheraton Mall, $5.00.
    Ripping off tourists is prevalent in Barbados. I once went to a popular site on the East Coast and bought a Banks Beer, next day when I returned , with a different attendant serving, the price was up in the air, and when I questioned it , the attendant inquired as to what the other fellow had charged me the day before. It was then that I discovered there were three prices in force at this establishment for the same item. One for immediate locals, the fellows from the nearby districts,another price for obvious Bajans, and the highest of all reserved for tourists.

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  6. Artax July 23, 2016 at 9:45 PM #

    David July 23, 2016 at 8:04 AM #

    “The owners of the PSVs must accept responsibility for the state of things in the sector. A simple task of coming together under a strong vibrant association seems to be a perennial challenge. On the government side, the ineffectiveness of the Barbados Transport Authority is the other side of the issue. As usual everything we do is poisoned with politics.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    There are at least three associations representing PSVs, each having a different uniform. And they seem to be unable to share a unified opinion on issues affecting them.

    I have noticed a significant increase in minibuses [B], especially on the Speightstown and Speightstown to Oistins [City-by-Pass] routes, and route taxis [ZR], mainly on saturated routes such as Silver Hill, Silver Sands, Airport, Deacons Road and Wansted. Hence, I have REASON to AGREE with to comment re: “As usual everything we do is poisoned with politics.”

    Perhaps the Transport Authority should make information available to the public relative to how many permits were issued during the past 3 years. I guess we should not hold our breaths in anticipation of a response from the TA.

    Interestingly, the Transport Board has approximately 35 Hino Mini-buses, 20 Hino Road Runners that were bought in 1997 and 15 Hino Road Rangers in 2000. Rather than being utilized to provide service on shorter routes, many of these units can be seen daily, parked at TB’s Weymouth Headquarters.

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  7. ac July 23, 2016 at 9:58 PM #

    consider this the tourist alternative of renting a car buying gas or travel by taxi to get to the same required destinations as would be by Zrs check the figures and see who are the real losers and winners
    I know the moral suasion is a factor that should be consider however given the alternatives by which the tourist can travel and the high cost for doing so the fifty cents difference which the zR charges can be summed up as a savings for the tourist
    i bet that if tourist those aware or unaware where quizzed about the fifty difference most would shrugged and say the alternatives are much higher in cost
    at times it is best not to make a mountain out of a mole hill

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  8. Colonel Buggy July 23, 2016 at 11:51 PM #

    The last time I went to Dominica, I was supposed to pick up a hired car at Melville Hall Airport. I waited and look around, then a mini van taxi driver, told me that probably due to the bad weather, the night before , delivery of the car was not made, and he could drop me off at the hired car place in Roseau. When I got to Roseau, I enquired from the taxi van driver , how much I owed him. Not one cent, he said, the Hired Car company will have to pay him. He could easily have charged me , and probably still collect from the hired car company. We in Barbados could learn a thing or two,from Dominica, about how to treat tourists, irrespective of their nationality.

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  9. Colonel Buggy July 24, 2016 at 12:06 AM #

    The management of Barbados is out of whack and every individual feels that he or she has the right to do as he/she pleases.
    Not only has Maloney stuck two fingers (Brit style) in the air at the Barbados Government and continued to build in spite of a STOP order, but I am positive that I heard on the CBC news tonight that a shipment of Chicken Wings were again imported into the island, bypassing the authorised entity which has the sole authority to do so.
    Why are we paying a Prime Minister and Ministers, and their hangars ons, big bucks and allowances, not to mention a massive pensions when the time comes, to sit on their arses like puppet dolls, while other unscrupulous persons in this society who benefit big time, pull their strings.

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  10. Artax July 24, 2016 at 12:19 AM #

    This is a PERFECT example of someone ENCOURAGING and SUPPORTING DISHONESTY.

    It’s similar to, for example, school meals workers or teachers asking parents of primary school children to pay $1.50 per week for school meals, rather than the stipulated $1.00.

    When someone queries the decision, they are told “given the alternatives” of preparing or purchasing lunch for their children, “and the high cost for doing so, the fifty cents difference which (the school meals workers or teachers charge) can be summed up as a savings for the parents.”

    I am reminded of Galileo Galilei’s quote: “I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn’t learn something from him.”

    The ACs contribution on this issue is more than enough evidence to prove Galileo was wrong.

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  11. ac July 24, 2016 at 7:23 AM #

    Artax

    It’s similar to, for example, school meals workers or teachers asking parents of primary school children to pay $1.50 per week for school meals, rather than the stipulated $1.00.

    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    no! it is not the same teachers cannot change the price setting for school meals which are governed by state regulatory laws .
    The ZR are privately owned enterprises and under a democracy can charged a fair price which an individual or customer have a right of choosing or refusing
    in the case of the tourist they can either do which best pleases themselves along with having several options of transportation to choose from
    the bottom line in most cases for the consumer always comes down to which best favors the pocket book
    so don/t come trying to pull the school meals option card when all knows that regulatory boards/laws have made a settled price which cannot be and should not be used as a bargaining point against a parent or the child

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  12. David July 24, 2016 at 7:46 AM #

    The busfare is regulated in Barbados , it is therefore illegal for PSVs to charge above…

    >

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  13. Musings July 24, 2016 at 8:13 AM #

    Did not know ZR’s and minibuses overcharged tourists no surprise given the unruly vicious practices of the ZR culture. Never in the history of this island has one group selfishly flouted the law and got away with so much illegal behavior to the detriment of the majority of law abiding citizens.

    A south bound ZR van stopped by the bus pole at Southern Plaza on Friday in the middle of the road blocking traffic going north and south. The nasty looking conductor disembarked pants dropping under his ass in dirty slippers and armhole vest shouting to the carpark and supermarket for potential passengers. No one came it made little difference the ZR wasn’t moving until it got some passengers from Southern Plaza.

    In the meantime docile drivers sat in their cars in a traffic jam stretching on both sides not even blowing a horn. It was an incredible sight. When one driver was brave enough to express disgust with a horn blow the ZR driver and conductor washed him in cuss. Finally when the dirty looking conductor and driver felt no new fares were coming they slowly pulled off.

    The traffic lines by then were long and moving at snail’s pace. Not a policeman or police car passed. Just another day on the streets under the dictatorship of the ZR culture the worst thing ever to happen in our island.

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  14. David July 24, 2016 at 8:29 AM #

    @Musings aka waiting

    And the culture has flourished under BOTH political parties.

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  15. ac July 24, 2016 at 8:31 AM #

    does anyone knows how much it cost to maintain a ZR and how much losses is accumulated in the slow season . Could it be the cost is not sufficiently regulated to make up for the loss revenue
    If that being the case then the Zr owner or management might be aware of the additional; charges and should be held responsible and the Zr driver should not be accused of being a thief . Point being that barbadians have this loose cannon mentality of broad painting when in fact the truthfulness of the story is not always told

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  16. pieceuhderockyeahright July 24, 2016 at 9:25 AM #

    @Musings aka waiting Lol

    Judging from the “tone” of your deliberation you were there.

    Too much vivid detail for you not to have been there .

    You are complicit in this crime, you and all the other drivers, do you know why?

    You have I am sure a cell phone, as do they.

    All of you could have recorded that incident with video and pictures and emailed it here to the Honourable Blogmaster and the driver, the nasty conductor, the number of the ZR and its owner would be broadcasted to the world.

    The power of the pen.

    Blame and Shame

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  17. Anonymice - TheGazer July 24, 2016 at 1:09 PM #

    Mr Davis, You have only touched on a small part of the problem.

    This multi-tiered system of charging for services is in place for tourists and expatriates. Fortunately for the tourist, he/she may just be on vacation, but an expatriate trying to do business in the island must resist aggressive attempts to separate them from their money.

    I have a friend who was making inquiries about a home on the island and the seller began negotiations at a price that was $20K higher that in the newspaper. He hung up the phone.

    The rot exists not only at the ZR level but in other segments of the society. It may be convenient to comment on the ZR drivers, but a larger problem needs to be addressed.

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  18. Anonymice - TheGazer July 24, 2016 at 1:19 PM #

    @ac
    I am surprise at your position.
    What if a Bajan decide to visit his homeland and play tourist? Should he be charged more than a next Bajan? And how do you determine who is a tourist? Dress?Color of their skin? Where they get on or off the bus? Accent (some bajans have an American accent and have not left the island :-))? The two-tiered system has many obvious flaws.

    Don’t just oppose because you have access to a keyboard.

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  19. Colonel Buggy July 24, 2016 at 1:34 PM #

    I was a child bicyclist I rode my bike, at nights without lights,on the wrong side of the road and broke every rule of the Road Traffic Act. Not a fellow opened his mout to put me right.
    As I grew up I acquired a motor cycle, by whatever means, I drove my noisy scrambler at nights without lights, without a helmet or number plates, or insurance, or a driving license. I broke every rule of the Road Traffic Act. Not a fellow opened his mout to set me right.
    Now I am a ZR driver /Conductor, I am breaking every rule in the Road Traffic Act. Those in authority pay us very little attention.
    Next I got hold of a Glock 9 mm , and walk into the Bridgetown court yard, and all of a sudden everybody is on my case ,telling me that I have broken the Rules and Regulations of this fair land.

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  20. Colonel Buggy July 24, 2016 at 1:42 PM #

    ac July 24, 2016 at 8:31 AM
    Sir, if you are the mouth piece of the Democratic Labour Party, then God help us.

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  21. ac July 24, 2016 at 2:37 PM #

    Where did I say I am in favour to over charging .I questioned the why and what is factored into the many challenges the drivers faces daily.unlike the article premise of calling the zr drivers thieves which in my opinion cast selfish assertions and passes scurrilous judgements
    Here we have a class of service privately owned workers who have to squeeze out a living in an highly competitive environment without having to rely on govt handouts or concessions now snarly confronted by so-called judges and jurist of a moral persuasion who have the tenacity of leaning forward in their seat to pass judgement on the driver’s and calling them thieves
    Now because I try to explore the issue from an angle of plight I am now being castigated and regulated in the minds of some as being dishonest.

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  22. Anonymice - TheGazer July 24, 2016 at 2:58 PM #

    @ac
    Seems as if you are “for” and “against” at the same time.
    Hmmmm….. a double jointed woman ❤

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  23. ac July 24, 2016 at 3:39 PM #

    sometimes morality requires a balancing act that requires what is best for self and best for another maybe you can apply the act of being double jointed in this case to pass the test .

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  24. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI July 24, 2016 at 4:06 PM #

    @ Anonymice – TheGazer July 24, 2016 at 2:58 PM #

    It is for this reason that the Honourable Blogmaster says of such a one “Thine Hignorance knoweth no bounds…”

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  25. Colonel Buggy July 24, 2016 at 4:24 PM #

    There are also reports of some regular taxi drivers, especially those operating from the Airport, leading incoming visitors to believe that the fare to their destination , refers to US dollars.

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  26. Colonel Buggy July 24, 2016 at 4:28 PM #

    Then again, we are no wiser, thanks to the former Attorney-General, knowing if the construction of Dodds Prisons was quoted in US Dollars or Barbados Dollars.

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  27. ac July 24, 2016 at 5:39 PM #

    lol here comes the parrot pdyr

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  28. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI July 24, 2016 at 8:20 PM #

    AC

    The DLP management is definitely going to have to get you to stop posting here.

    You AC my dear give me 60% of my inspiration!!!

    Beyond your “Stoopid Cartoons” remark that the DLP must credit your for, your 5.39 pm post today about the parrot for instance make me wonder what does this parrot cause me to envision??

    And I came up with what is the craze right now PokeMon and immediately from that Pokies Not Men

    The description goes “A new variant of the App that is taking the world by storm Pokemon launched in Barbados today

    It is called Pokies & Not Men and the entire population of Barbados is already playing the game whose objective is to GET THE 18 D.L.P. PLAYERS OUT OF GOVERNMENT

    So far things are going really well and in a few months time, January 2017 at the general Election, the people of Barbados will get rid of the entire set of Pokies & NOT Men

    There wont be any GYM but a Dustbin – RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOORS OF PARLIAMENT.

    PLAYING THE GAME IS ONLY GOING TO COST EACH GAMER ONE VOTE

    SIMPLE GAME RULES

    VOTE THE D.L.P TO EFF OUT!!!

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  29. Artax July 24, 2016 at 9:24 PM #

    @ ac

    You are INCORRECT to state that “The ZR are privately owned enterprises and under a democracy can charged a fair price which an individual or customer have a right of choosing or refusing.”

    In May 2014 the operators of private PSVs suggested government should raise bus fares because of rising operating expenses. However, in response, Michael Lashley said government was NOT considering an INCREASE in bus fares. [Nation News, May 1, 2014].

    Also, recall that at a meeting held on Monday, September 21, 2015, Chris Sinckler and Michael Lashley REJECTED a REQUEST made by over 100 owners and operators of PSVs in attendance, to INCREASE bus fares. [Barbados Today, September 23, 2015].

    Therefore, it is clear that bus fares are also GOVERNED by state regulatory LAWS and ZR or mini bus operators CANNOT make an ARBITRARY decision to charge WHATEVER fare they want.

    Since you are the DLP’s official representative on BU, perhaps you should ADDRESS your QUESTION re: “does anyone knows how much it cost to maintain a ZR and how much losses is (are) accumulated in the slow season. Could it be the cost is not sufficiently regulated to make up for the loss revenue?” to Sinckler and Lashley.

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  30. Artax July 24, 2016 at 9:42 PM #

    “ac July 24, 2016 at 8:31 AM #: does anyone knows how much it cost to maintain a ZR and how much losses is accumulated in the slow season. Could it be the cost is not sufficiently regulated to make up for the loss revenue?”

    “ac July 24, 2016 at 2:37 PM #: I questioned the why and what is factored into the many challenges the drivers faces daily, unlike the article premise of calling the zr drivers thieves which in my opinion cast selfish assertions and passes scurrilous judgments. Here we have a class of service privately owned workers who have to SQUEEZE OUT a LIVING in a highly competitive environment………..”

    @ ac

    Interesting comments.

    However, you have a “hypocritical ability” of criticizing an issue, but subsequently taking a different position when that issue is praised by the DLP.

    Now you are AWARE that as recent as September 2015, both Michael Lashley and Chris Sinckler REJECTED a REQUEST made by PSV operators to INCREASE BUS FARES, do you still MAINTAIN your POSITION on the issue, as outlined by both of your above comments?

    If you honestly believe in and are ready to defend your above comments, when you attend the next DLP constituency branch meeting, please exhibit some honesty by telling Lashley and Sinckler what you believe and defend your comments with equal vigor, and more so, as you have defended them on BU.

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  31. ac July 25, 2016 at 9:51 AM #

    The premises of my comment is solely based on the economics of sustaining a fair and equitable profit margin for the business to performan and be maintain properly .Really do not understand the necessity outside of setting a standard guidline which is fair and practible by which the business can follow but cannot go over and above the area of price next gouging
    However what is amazing is the writer and bloggers goes on a tangent.as labelling the drivers as thieves instead of using a plausible and clean approach of looking at how econmics might be a cause for the driver having to use a backdoor entry of illegality to keep the business afloat
    Btw speckled fowl there was a time when it was legal to sell a race of people and make them work for free i think civilzation in a democracy demands better that all people be treated with dignity fairness and equality
    So when u get here talking about law go check yuh history

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  32. Artaxerxes July 25, 2016 at 11:35 AM #

    It’s truly amazing how you selectively choose certain aspects of a contribution, interpret it to suit your particular agenda and subsequently respond accordingly. It demonstrates that your ability to read and comprehend is limited or confined to your specific bias.

    You raised the issue of PSV operators essentially having to do what is necessary to remain profitable in a competitive environment, even if it means ignoring the laws of Barbados to make an ARBITRARY decision to charge WHATEVER bus fare they deem “conveniently suitable” at any given time.

    Since 2010, the PSV operators having been asking government to increase bus fares or grant them duty free concessions so as to offset the increasing cost of operations.
    As recent as September 2015, both Lashley and Sinckler REJECTED a REQUEST made by Association of Public Transport Operators (APTO) and other representatives, to grant the sector an INCREASE in BUS FARES and DUTY FREE CONCESSIONS.

    Hence, we can reasonably assume Sinckler and Lashley DO NOT SHARE your perspective on this issue. Rather than CONVENIENTLY neglecting to address government’s response to the sectors’ requests (taking your reasoning into consideration), you DELIBERATELY focused your attention on contributors, as you wrote, “calling PSV operators thieves.”

    You stated “the premise of (your) comment is solely based on the economics of sustaining a fair and equitable profit margin for the business to perform and be maintained properly,” is the basis for your argument in support of overcharging.

    Therefore, applying similar logic, surely you must be equally supportive of operators undertaking other illegal activities such as going off route, overloading, speeding or “dragging,” to “sustain a fair and equitable profit margin for the business to perform and be maintained properly.”

    However, I find it necessary to remind of your comments in response to a BU article entitled “Indiscipline on the Roads,” which was submitted by Anthony Davis on June 12, 2015:

    “ac June 12, 2015 at 7:07 PM #: yes if Barbadians were serious about a change this kind of DISRESPECT for LAW and ORDER could not have been ALLOWED to go one for these many years, there is a history of lawlessness at the root of this problem along with citizens closing their eyes to such problems until hell broke loss…..”

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  33. ac July 25, 2016 at 12:51 PM #

    Why are you Artexes stressing self about what i say as an indivudual i have a right to say what ever the hell i want i am not cojoined to what any one thinks or say. This stupid knee jerk reaction which you seem to present is nestled within a sense of insecurity .it is truly amazing that with every word i uttered you takes pen to paper to either remind me or just infused your intrepretation of what you think.Now get lost not interested in what u think

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  34. Artaxerxes July 25, 2016 at 1:21 PM #

    Don’t flatter yourself, I will never stress myself about anything you write. And how could I pointing out the ignorance you continuously/consistently demonstrate in your contributions, be interpreted as “presented within a sense of insecurity?”

    It is a known fact that you are an idiotic yard-fowl. Perhaps I have developed a hobby of highlighting your INSECURITIES as you struggle hopelessly on BU, attempting to defend this inept DLP administration. And response has demonstrated I was SUCCESSFUL once again.

    There isn’t anything informative in the shiite you write, which is usually composed of incoherent rhetorical political yard-fowl diatribe shiite.

    Similarly to how Carl Moore wrote he is the nemesis of the “anonymice,” I am your nemesis. Therefore, you can always expect a response from me each time you come to BU with shiite and until you decide to take a long deserved “sabbatical” from this forum. It is about time you leave BU permanently.

    It is wunnuh dat gine me stressing wunnuh selves.

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  35. ac July 25, 2016 at 2:54 PM #

    Steupseee

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  36. ac July 25, 2016 at 5:36 PM #

    but then again mr big shot did you not hear and see how OSA ram a political big stick down the throat of Mia for encouraging her members to vote against the retirement bill . i think that kind of s.hhit you should be stressing and worrying about
    instead of giving me all kinds of political horse sh ..t advice

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  37. Artax July 25, 2016 at 9:12 PM #

    Once again, and for the final time, I am not a MEMBER or SUPPORTER of the BLP or DLP. As such, I don’t care what Arthur does to Mottley……… it is of no concern to me.

    I would not allow myself to exhibit your LEVEL of STUPIDITY to blindly support mere mortals, while apportioning to them godly status and demonstrating your ignorance in the process; an OBJECTIVE you have SUCCESSFULLY MASTERED. In actuality, you are an ignoramus pretending to be a “political strategist.”

    Additionally, it is OBVIOUS, as evidenced by your contributions, you have a COMPULSIVE OBSESSION with “stressing and worrying about” Mia Mottley, who, according to Prodigal, seems to be LIVING RENT FREE in your “UNFURNISHED” head.

    No matter the topic posted to BU for discussion, you always attempt to lower the standard of this forum with your NONSENSICAL contributions and by introducing some shiite about Mottley.

    You may have the final word.

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  38. ac July 25, 2016 at 9:45 PM #

    you so crazy lol and stop telling the big lie yes you are a blp yardie that is why you cannot help jumping on the paling to cackle every time the mention of mottley comes up negatively in the forum

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  39. ac July 25, 2016 at 9:53 PM #

    yardie here is something for you to cackle about

    Arthur lashed out at Mottley over her stance on the amendment after she took the opportunity to shred Government over the treatment of former workers of state agencies, including severed employees of the National Conservation Commission (NCC) who the Employment Rights Tribunal ruled last week had been unfairly dismissed in April 2014 as part of the administration’s retrenchment exercise.
    However, Arthur took offence to Mottley’s position, suggesting that it was naïve, simplistic and superficial and had no bearing on the measure before Parliament.
    The former Prime Minister said that extending the retirement age to 67 was one of the important accomplishments of his administration, and he stressed that BLP legislators who were members of his Cabinet at the time should not now oppose decisions to which they had previously agreed.
    “Judging the amendment on its merit we cannot seek to intrude on that discussion, matters that we may think would give us some political support or be politically interesting but has no bearing on the matter that is before Parliament of the land,” Arthur said in an obvious jab at Mottley.
    “This is a simple amendment to make sure that two posts recognized by the Constitution as being worthy to be in the Constitution. It is on those compelling grounds that I have to support the amendment to the Constitution. That is all that is being required to allow those two posts to benefit from the increase in the age of retirement,” the former Prime Minister stressed.

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  40. ac July 25, 2016 at 9:55 PM #

    Political opportunism that is what you and other blp operatives thrive on.

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  41. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI July 25, 2016 at 11:18 PM #

    @ Artaxerxes

    Beautifully said, I have copied that 9.12 pm submission for the poster line that will be about AC which will feature a paling cock.

    I specifically want the one that the Honourable Blogmaster puts up because that is a beautiful fowl, splendiferous.

    @ AC

    To show you what Artaxerxes has gone to pains to explain to you regarding your paucity of thought is borne out by the clear confirmation that ” you are an ignoramus pretending to be a “political strategist.”

    It lies in one word/phrase you submitted

    The word was “shred”. The phrase was “…after she took the opportunity to shred Government over the treatment of former workers…”

    Inherent in the word “shred” is the concept of successfully tearing apart something. The word dufus, which you “an ignoramus pretending to be a political strategist” CANNOT understand should have been “attack” or some other verb which did not convey “successful” action.

    Steupseee

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  42. ac July 25, 2016 at 11:30 PM #

    PDYR EXCUSE ME YOU GUYS REALLY FULL OF IT I am OFF TO BED wIll deAL WITH ThAT DREDDED SHREDDED WORD Tomorrow THAT GOT U ALL UP IN ARMS BUt ThEn AGaIn yOu caN UsE thE WOrd In ONE OF YOUR sIlLy cARTOOns

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  43. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI July 25, 2016 at 11:35 PM #

    Get your version of Pokemon – the DLP ripoff variant – the Pokies & Not Men app

    Available at the House of Assembly or on George Street in Belleville

    For special orders that go to your mudda accunt call AC or Pigrim at Legion Enterprises.dlp.bb

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  44. Artax July 26, 2016 at 12:09 AM #

    Hahahahaha…….. see wuh I tell yuh? It seems as though your motto is: “when the going gets tough, write something shiite Mia Mottley.”

    I feel fuh you, hear… you like you got Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), yuh. This is a common, chronic and long-lasting disorder in which a person has uncontrollable, reoccurring thoughts (obsessions about Mia Mottley) and REPETITIVE, RITUALIZED BEHAVIORS (compulsions), they feel compelled to perform (no matter the topic, you have this repetitive urge to focus on Mottley).

    Since Dr. Denis Lowe professes to be a licensed Clinical Psychologist, perhaps you should APPEAL to him for HELP.

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  45. Artax July 26, 2016 at 12:27 AM #

    This article is about PSV operators OVERCHARGING commuters, and as usual, you are seeking to lower the standard of BU by introducing some shiite about Mia Mottley. You “cannot seek to intrude on this discussion, matters you may think would give (you) some political support or be politically interesting, but has no BEARING on the MATTER that is before this (forum).”

    You introduced a silly argument to condone and support the overcharging of bus fares. The minister of finance and the minister of labour essentially dismissed that nonsense when they rejected a suggestion made by PSV operators to grant them duty free concessions and an increase in bus fares.

    I will temporarily ignore the topic and engage you in a “tit for tat”……………. my apologies to the blog-master.

    You have constantly implied that, Mottley not being in possession of a LEC has been illegally practicing law in Barbados, to the point of exhaustion.

    However, I’m sure Michael Carrington PROUDLY DISPLAYS his LEC, yet was confronted with a law suit for ILLEGALLY with-holding his client Mr. Griffiths’ property for 14 years and BLATANTLY refusing to RESPOND to any requests for settlement issued by the senior citizen. The court ruled in favour of Griffiths thereby indicating Carrington is basically a thief.

    Freundel Stuart, another lawyer who can also brag about being in possession of a LEC, CATEGORICALLY DENIED signing off on CAHILL, but subsequently admitted he signed the deal after EVIDENTIAL PROOF was DISPLAYED on BU. Surely you must agree that by his actions, Freundel is proven to be a liar.

    Recall Denis Lowe PROUDLY DISPLAYED a theology PhD in parliament, which he claimed to have received from “God’s Bible School and College,” (but a search on the internet shows nowhere that GBS offers a doctoral program). However, (that aside), Lowe being a “man of the cloth,” stood in charge of an UNGODLY and IMMORAL NCC retrenchment process, which ignored the mandated “first in, last out” policy and saw workers recently employed individuals from his constituency REMAINING employed.

    All the talk about GOD, Denis has proven time and time again he is a dishonest individual and should be aware that attending God’s Bible School” does not negate his sins, give him diplomatic immunity and a passport to heaven.

    The CLICO forensic audit report provided evidence to prove that David Thompson, (another lawyer who attended Hugh Wooding for his LEC) had his hands deep in the $3.333M scam with Leroy Parris.

    These DISHONEST activities RESONATE in the MINDS of the electorate, not some silly debate about increasing retirement age.

    DLP = Deceitful Lying Politicians

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  46. balance July 26, 2016 at 4:17 AM #

    “ac July 25, 2016 at 9:53 PM #

    yardie here is something for you to cackle about

    Arthur lashed out at Mottley over her stance on the amendment after she took the opportunity to shred Government over the treatment of former workers of state agencies, including severed employees of the National Conservation Commission (NCC) who the Employment Rights Tribunal ruled last week had been unfairly dismissed in April 2014 as part of the administration’s retrenchment exercise.
    However, Arthur took offence to Mottley’s position, suggesting that it was naïve, simplistic and superficial and had no bearing on the measure before Parliament.”

    Everyone in the Caribbean knows that Mr Arthur’s seemingly unbridled dislike for Ms Mottley would cause him to be unsupportive of any position taken by Ms Mottley sound or unsound just as your unbridled love for the DLP would cause you to defend any stupid position taken by this present mob governing the country.

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  47. ac July 26, 2016 at 6:18 AM #

    and then yuh got the empty head duguid another blp political opportunist who will get his backside rinse out by the people of christ church west and handed to him. What a waste

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  48. David July 26, 2016 at 6:39 AM #

    A key area we need to improve as a society is the ability of the people the politicians serve to hold them accountable. It is for some time we have known about the reckless management and borrowing from the NIS Fund (by successie governments) to support same reckless behaviour by politicians but have we heard from minister Michael Lashley how they plan to repay the people’s money? Yet we can pay all exorbitant monies to lawyers to review boilerplate agreements, travel the world first-class and stay in 4/5 star hotels etc.

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  49. ac July 26, 2016 at 8:06 AM #

    Now that is the side of the PM i like one which would stand up to the blp kunckled heads and let them know what kind of hypocrites they are.Yesterday analogy by Nowthe PM referencing to the arrogance of the BLP was well worthy of a standing ovation all

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  50. Artax July 26, 2016 at 8:37 AM #

    David July 26, 2016 at 6:39 AM #

    “A key area we need to improve as a society is the ability of the people the politicians serve to hold them accountable.”

    @ David

    Recall, for example, the vendors’ stalls that were built adjacent the temporary Golden Square Market on Probyn Street. The Ministry of Agriculture DID NOT do ANYTHING to SECURE “property of the crown,” and as a result of their NEGLIGENCE, ALL of those stalls have been DISMANTLED and the MATERIALS STOLEN.

    Those stalls could have been temporarily assigned to the vendors selling on the environs of the Fairchild Street Bus Terminal, who were recently removed by the police, until a permanent location could be found for them to operate.

    That venture was a WASTE of taxes and the Minister of Agriculture, Dr. David Estwick, should be held ACCOUNTABLE for this travesty.

    And to “add insult to injury,” the yard-fowl supporters will ALWAYS try to DEFEND the INDEFENSIBLE.

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  51. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right INRI July 26, 2016 at 8:59 AM #

    If there is one thing that I do not understand about Bajans in general AND the PSV community in particular, in the rampant inability for us to see alternative mechanisms to deal with the multiple issues they all face, mini bus sub culture, lawless drivers, unprofitable? routes, dragging by drivers, tiefing by drivers/conductors and the list goes on and on.

    Any one or all three of the associations could approach the IDB with a project which sought to use ICT to improve mass transportation and police their drivers, provide instantaneous metrics on route usage, traveller statistics , money collected and the list goes on.

    The Assinine Cretin and Legion would not know this but the law does not permit for an increase in bus fares it DOES provide for the decrease in bus fares

    And why would that community do that you might add?

    Because if inclusive in the ICT enhancement the idiots were to implement a transfer for PSV riders to move from Route A to route B for $1.50 per leg*** the ridership on PSV s would increase and the other subculture elements would shift into the shadows.

    The real problem that we face in Barbados is what I call “Time Travel and the Blacksmith”

    Imagine a quirk of fate (a general election or the outdated 2party system that is politics in Barbados) were to bring the Best Blacksmith from Magna Carta times to our century.

    After our obvious fascination with him and him with us, his popularity gets him elected.

    But the fact is, he only knows how to shoe horses, and the only horses we have around are Uglicia and the Deceitful Lying Party

    So we have created and subscribe to that ubiquitous phenomenon in our cuntry, in the snivel service and our private sector which is incapable of spontaneous anything other than copying the Pokemon craze but are incapable of self actuation and in fact, HATE ANYTHING THAT SHOWS US UP AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN HORSESHOE MAKERS

    Our collective donkeys is grass

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  52. David July 26, 2016 at 4:03 PM #

    We have to STOP giving politicians a free ride. Until we do, top in mud.

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  53. ac July 27, 2016 at 6:24 AM #

    This is a potent article which makes relevant points and gives clarity as to why i made my comments not as some would suggest that i am condoning illegalities but to refresh an awareness to the problems which the drivers /owners have to face daily in maintenance and sustaining their livelihoods and business

    https://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/public-service-vehicles-in-barbados-we-love-them-but/

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  54. David July 27, 2016 at 6:45 AM #

    Intersting comment in the media yesterday from the PM about the effect of ‘tech’ on the society. What he neglected to mention was the role the government continues to play in the PSV sector. For over 3 decades we have seen the sub culture help to infect our Youth and wider society. We have to protect our Youth or the society rots.

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  55. Colonel Buggy July 27, 2016 at 9:26 PM #

    David July 27, 2016 at 6:45 AM
    Did this Government not introduced free bus fare for school children,to get them away from the ZR’s and Minibuses? Do the same children not now allow the Transport Board buses to go past them, while jumping on a private PSV and paying fare to boot? What attempts has the same authorities ,who were so instrumental in diverting the school children away from this sub culture, are making to address this “spinning- top- in -mud situation.?” Bugger all, from the looks of it.

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  56. ac July 27, 2016 at 9:39 PM #

    now govt cannot be the parents or guardians of these children if the parents that lived in the same household cannot direct or teach these children the right and proper how can one expect govt to become their caretakers
    the govt put a transport policy in place for the parents to take advantage that children can ride free so there is where the blame should go ask the parents
    what would you want the govt to do ban the zrs or pass some kind of laws that would ban children from riding on the zrs
    how about raising the bus fares for the ZR drivers most likely the parents would have little choice but to let the children ride the transport buses

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  57. Colonel Buggy July 27, 2016 at 10:39 PM #

    ac July 27, 2016 at 9:39 PM #
    now govt cannot be the parents or guardians of these children if the parents that lived in the same household cannot direct or teach these children the right and proper how can one expect govt to become their caretakers
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
    Would I hear a strong supporter of any British , US or Canadian political party making a statement like this, especially when its to do with the proper upbringing of their children?
    The same government however,has no qualms about becoming caretaker of some of these very children , at Summerville and Dodds,junior.

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  58. Artax July 27, 2016 at 11:48 PM #

    July 17, 2016 will be 9 years since that article was posted to BFP on July 17, 2007. If we are honest with ourselves, surely we have to admit that there has NOT BEEN ANY SIGNIFICANT POLICY CHANGES for the PSV operators or the conditions under which they operate, under both BLP and DLP administrations.

    Recall in his 2008 Budget presentation, Thompson announced that ALL SCHOOL CHILDREN in uniform or under the age of 18 and carrying identification would NOT be REQUIRED to PAY bus fare. To this end, the government allocated an extra $8M to the education ministry to subsidize the new free travel policy. Hence, under this new policy, “the education ministry NOW pays the Transport Board a subsidy of $2.00 for each school carried.”

    Additionally, recall Thompson also threatened to ban school children from commuting on private PSVs, if operators did not adhere to specific laws, as is substantiated by the following excerpt:

    “I want to MAKE it CLEAR how this GOVERNMENT feels: If there IS NO IMPROVEMENT in the COMPLIANCE by PSV’s with the LAW and TRAFFIC REGULATIONS during the intervening period, at the point of introducing the new service, WE WILL BAN SCHOOL CHILDREN FROM TRAVELLING ON PSV’S BY LAW.” [Page 36, Financial Statement and Budgetary Proposals 2008 presented by Hon. David Thompson Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, on Monday 7th July, 2008]

    Such a policy of banning school children from travel on private PSVs, if implemented, would also add “to the problems which the drivers /owners have to face daily in maintenance and sustaining their livelihoods and business.”

    There is NO DENYING that private PSV operators have SUFFERED under BOTH BLP and DLP administrations.

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  59. Artax July 28, 2016 at 12:18 AM #

    More often than not, politicians make policy decisions that prove to be unsustainable in the long term. According to my research, prior to 1976, Barbados had a fare policy that was based on “stages.” In other words, bus fares were apportioned according to distance travelled.

    However, prior to the 1976 general elections, then PM Barrow replaced the stage fare policy with a basic bus fare of 25¢ “island wide.” Here beggineth the Transport Board its tale.

    Sooner or later the authorities have to make a decision either to allow market forces to determine bus fares or continue to borrow and increase taxes to maintain fares at unsustainable levels and subsidize fares for school children, senior citizens and the ranks of the police force.

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  60. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI July 28, 2016 at 8:57 AM #

    @ AC

    You are both “right and wrong” on this point

    What you are trying to say is tied integrally to parental responsibility and discipline insofar as if i tell my chilrun are is reading well “do not get on a PSV” THAT IS THE LAW & MY CHILRUN, WILL NOT GT ON A PSV!!.

    End of that story, this is what parents real parent do.

    But, having said that the flip side of that story is that the Transport Board, having spent several millions of dollars in a Wayfarer system that was supposed to have given real time statistics on the whereabouts of a bus, a function that a $50 ole phone plugged into the bus’s battery can do, a multimillion GPS system that was a sweetheart deal by an inept minister with he firends in the UK, a system that has never worked, what else do you want my children to do?

    Stand up in the sun waiting on an non existent bus?

    You need to stop being so blinded by your allegiance to Fumbles Fools and wake up and see the reality of the poor provisioning of technology for making Transportation in Barbados possible

    THis is why Fumbles inept speech about technology was sooooo out of wack with the reality of your government’s waste of millions of dollars.

    Having said that AC let me also add that you are not alone in such sweetheart deals.

    Mugabe Mottley also made such a deal with Illuminat in the millions of dollars to provision the Royal Barbados Police Force with similar GPS technology ALL OF WHICH HAD TO BE REMOVED FROM POLICE VEHICLES but Illuminat made millions from technology THAT DID NOT WORK.

    REMEMBRANCE IS A BITCH WHEN LIKE MADAME DEFARGE one can stand up and say “JE T’ACCUSE” with such conviction and with truth behind one’s claims AND NOT A FELLER CAN SAY NO, YUH LIE!!

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  61. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI July 28, 2016 at 9:03 AM #

    @ Artaxerxes

    Your post of Artax July 28, 2016 at 12:18 AM # ….More often than not, politicians make policy… is strange.

    Since it is not that time yet it is doubly strange….

    Even though one is behind a VPN and capturing the time stamp of the VPN, generally a post does not take the time of the submitter’s zone. but the time of the WordPress host.

    Why is that?

    Unless hmmmmmmmmm…. archive access and now this? hmmmmmmmmm…

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  62. Artax July 28, 2016 at 12:49 PM #

    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right – INRI July 28, 2016 at 9:03 AM #

    @ Artaxerxes

    Your post of Artax July 28, 2016 at 12:18 AM # ….More often than not, politicians make policy… is strange.

    Since it is not that time yet it is doubly strange….

    Even though one is behind a VPN and capturing the time stamp of the VPN, generally a post does not take the time of the submitter’s zone. but the time of the WordPress host.

    Why is that?

    Unless hmmmmmmmmm…. archive access and now this? hmmmmmmmmm…

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    @ PUDRYR – INRI

    I’m a bit puzzled by your above comments, which is strange, because you write with “impeccable” clarity.

    Would you care to explain?

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  63. ac. July 28, 2016 at 12:56 PM #

    Are u suggesting that since govt transportation is slow and in effective that the children have no other alternative than to ride the ZR and therefore the responsibilty of the child way of transportation should be the responsibility of the govt.
    I find that argument to be facetious because not all the children are attending the same school which might be a cause of tardiness for many children. However in as much as there maybe delays such drlays would be sporadic and remote . However what we have here is a continuous effect where children have rather ride the Zr than the public free transportation for several reasons other than having to deal with delays by public transportation
    The truth of the matter lies squarely at the parents feet who rather than supervisor their children activity relies on every thing mostly tricks of avoidance told to them by the children
    Again i reiterate that if a higher cost was charge by the Zr most parents and child would head tail for public free transportation and figure out alternatives when bus delays become problematic.

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  64. ac July 28, 2016 at 12:58 PM #

    The above comment was for PDYRp

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  65. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI July 28, 2016 at 1:33 PM #

    Ok Artaxerxes

    I believe strongly in VPNs especially VPNs with companies that are not “regional”

    So I am the first to congratulate your practice.

    Let us say that you are travelling and you are in the UK then your date/time stamp will be 5 hours ahead or 4 if the UK is in a daylight saving time mode.

    But your post is prescribed by the local machine, the host BU.

    But you post is an anomaly to that Artaxerxes, so I am left to wonder hmmmmm.

    Quite simply put, it confuses me, I cannot explain it and with me anything that I cannot explain bothers the melts out of someone with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder because, like the robot in Lost in Space “it does not compute”

    @ AC

    Your syllogism is not logical.

    A.Goverment provides free transport for “schoolchildren” B. Government provides a scheduled bus service to serve said children whose schedule is inefficient C. Children, even if instructed by parents to take Government buses, in the absence of said bus, MUST get to school and resort to alternative PSVs

    For your syllogism to “hold water” it would have to be that premise B provided that Government provided a timely and dependable bus service so that the condition stated in C i.e. children being instructed by parents to take government buses would be in contravention of parental instruction

    Again with regard to your comment about making the price of public transportation higher I would say thing to you as it relates to the category of the “working poor” in Barbados

    There are thousands of bajans who bus to work in two zones $4 to get to work and $4 to get back home 5 to 6 days a week. that is $40 to $48 every single week!!

    You and several of you do not know that a significant % of the “working poor” population of Barbados still get less than $300 a week BEFORE TAXES etc.

    $50 from $300 leaves $250 and with some households who are renting, paying utilities etc you are creating a category of “respectable sex workers” which others will call whores.

    It is possible and desirable NOT to increase the busfares and cause greater hardship but to “decrease the TB bus-fares, through the use of 15 minute transfers, and increase your ridership BUT SUCH AGAIN DEMANDS WHAT MY SYLLOGISM POSITS, a proper working/operating Transport Board which, if i recall directly, the transport Board, with 100 buses? parked and inoperative, DOES NOT HAVE.

    No parent can and should insist that its child take a TB bus which is always late, may not come or when it comes, breaks down

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  66. ac July 28, 2016 at 2:18 PM #

    PDYR the bone of contention in my mind lies within a frame work that is durable to transportation and applicable to children behaviours both dealing with reliabilty safety and security
    The latter which at present does not give necessary cause for worry. However the other two upon which parent and child is depending on
    As far as you are concerned u belive that it is the govt role to provide reliability and safety to those who can least afford by way of transportation.
    However i beg to differ on a reasonableness that govt role to provide necessary transportation is depenable on affordability and is not a guranteed right to all citizens. However to adress the social enviroment if negativity that that being the case i assumed that no parent would want to place their child in any destructive social enviroment but would fine the way and means to remove their child with an understanding that the child responsibility is theirs
    Your poppcock mutterings of logic cannot cannot apply in reality that necessitates to meet and supply demands across the board not for a few but many

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  67. Colonel Buggy July 28, 2016 at 6:04 PM #

    ac. July 28, 2016 at 12:56 PM #

    Again i reiterate that if a higher cost was charge by the Zr most parents and child would head tail for public free transportation and figure out alternatives when bus delays become problematic
    …………………………………………………………………………………………..
    You figure so ,Sir. Many of these children who travel on the ZR’s and Minibuses, can be seen with the latest model cell phones. They probably will be able to secure the extra money to pay for the increase PSV and Minibus fare, via the same avenue as Top Ups and New Phones.

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  68. ac July 28, 2016 at 6:46 PM #

    not at all disagreeing with your premises however the argument is sandwich in between a preference or more or less a preferred choice to the extent that the attention of negative behavior attracts children of a wanting choice to ride the Zr,added to the fact that the free public transportation is problematic
    the questions then arises in part how can govt intervene with actions that can play an active role in diverting children/s attention from the negative culture prevalent in the Zr culture

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