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Key Takeaway from the Grants’ Sandy Crest Experience

The Grants in control of Sand Crest Before the relationship wen south

The Grants in control of Sandy Crest before the relationship went south

In 2013 BU posted a blog to react to the surprising news well respected Dr. Grant and his wife were charged with theft from the company they founded.  The recent news that the charge  brought by the Peter Harris controlled Sandy Crest Medical Centre was dropped is good reason for BU to revisit this horrible wrong done to an honest Barbadian family.

BU refers to a document which immediately predates the falling out of Dr. Malcolm Grant and his wife, with Dr. Brian Charles once a very close, trusted and long-term friend of Dr. Grant. The key learning for those thinking of venturing into business with friends – you must make sure that everything is documented and be guided by someone who has the training, knowledge and experience to provide such guidance. For those already in business with friends without the appropriate documentation, this is a good time to formalize the partnership.

Below is a three page letter written by Dr. Charles to his fellow executive directors of Sandy Crest Medical Centre. In the letter, Dr. Charles craftily outlines why the post of CEO should have been created for him at Sandy Crest.

To provide some background, Sandy Crest Medical Centre was first conceptualized by the Grants in October 2003. After incorporating the parent company, Trans Med Inc, the Grants approached Dr. Charles to see if he would join them in the development of and the rolling out of their dream. He was subsequently given shares in lieu of his services.

After careful consideration, Charles later agreed to join the Grants, but pointed out clearly in the beginning that he had no intention of playing an active role in the running of Sandy Crest. This was because of his then positions of Medical Director and head of the A&E of the QEH. The Grants as we understand it agreed to accommodate Charles’ wishes.

Charles joined the Grant’s and became a member of the team known as the executive directors. This arrangement worked very well for the first five years of the company’s existence. With Charles using his experience and contacts as an emergency physician to help primarily with the recruitment and training of other emergency physicians and registered nurses for the medical centre. However, he played little to no role in running any other aspect of the Sandy Crest operation. This was not a problem because Charles, at the time, had no private practice experience when it came to drawing up business plans, negotiating with financial institutions, seeking private sponsorship, financially running, marketing, designing, constructing, outfitting, staffing (administrative), etc. of a private health care facility. Too besides, the Grants were somewhat wary of Sandy Crest becoming another QEH Accident & Emergency Department, so they felt quite happy with the self restricted role Charles played over the first five years of the business.

This dynamic all changed in mid 2008 when Charles was fired from his posts at the QEH. He was without a job and therefore was seeking employment. Therefore he first turned to his good friend Dr. Grant and fellow executive directors for employment.

Dr. Grant welcomed Dr. Charles’ sudden interest in playing a more active role at Sandy Crest although both of them differed as to what role Charles would ultimately play going forward. BU understands that Dr. Grant saw Charles as being an important member of Sandy Crest’s clinical team, offering to appoint him as Clinical Director, while Charles saw his role as being entirely administrative.

Dr. Grant objected to Charles coming on as an administrator because he knew that the Centre could not afford to pay Charles his asking price of $15,000 / month for a proposed 25 hour work week (see letter). Further, Grant noted that what Charles was proposing to do, was already being adequately performed by the Executive Directors and the administrative staff at Sandy Crest. Charles saw Grant’s objection to his proposal as a betrayal of a 28 year friendship, and from then on Grant was considered an enemy.

The rest is history.

The Grants learnt the hard way, having offered a number of friends shares in their dream, the following quote is instructive to others who may be in a lose business arrangement: –

friendship founded on business is better than a business founded on friendship. – John D. Rockefeller

Dr. Brian Charles’ Letter: Parts 1,2 and 3

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61 Comments on “Key Takeaway from the Grants’ Sandy Crest Experience”

  1. Old Baje July 15, 2016 at 8:06 AM #

    So how did Harris become involved?

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  2. Watchman July 15, 2016 at 8:25 AM #

    Obvious, Charles sell his shares to Harris

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  3. I Brathwaite July 15, 2016 at 8:43 AM #

    You want every chapter annotated and highlighted for you Baje. How yah mean how Harris become involved. Don’t mek sport, fah real.

    Blogmeister, all this bassa-bassa in say diddly-squat other than these fellows does get some real effing blenza.

    The letter is a money grab and if my buddy stop me from getting a frigging platinum parachute like dat den I wud kick his ass straight to France too and wish bad things pon he family.

    Nasty business dis ting called business.

    But you didn’t say if the directors did agree with doc-founder or wid doc-25 hours. If de fella was asking for all dat money he either thought the business could afford to pay it or dat he deserve dem wages dem.

    As far as medical thrillers go I would like to know why doc-25 hours get he oxygen stopped at the QEH. Dat is just de gypsy part of my Bajan gene. hehehehe. But it might put some more oxygen in this story too and dat big-ass wage grab…he musee had a big big mortgage payment, a few mistresses and a wicked golf habit to feed. And too an id to scratch.

    Anyhow, wha get loss way in all dis is that de doc-founder start up a real propra med center and was moving along real sweet before all dis board room fiddling and fecundity. Props to he for dat.

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  4. Georgie Porgie July 15, 2016 at 8:55 AM #

    I have never met the Grants, but I met Charles ONCE! Once was enough.
    He is a pig from the back woods of Dominica..

    My son was sick and taken to QEH This idiot did not have the grace to engage in discussion with a fellow physician (and a senior one) about a few lab results.

    The man is immensely arrogant and stupid and feels entitled in his self importance.
    How else can he expect an exorbitant wage in a medical enterprise he contributes 25 hours weekly.

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  5. Bush Tea July 15, 2016 at 9:03 AM #

    Don’t tell GP that this is typically how doctors operate in REAL life… MONEY!!!
    He is an honest fella who is really committed to his oath …and seems to presume that most others are too…
    Most of them are committed to their albino-centric alto egos and to their BMWs.

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  6. Old Baje July 15, 2016 at 9:05 AM #

    If Charles could just up and sell his shares to Harris the Grants’ lawyer is a poppet because when you set up a private company like that you don’t expose yourself by allowing anyone to buy shares in your company without your approval. On the other hand, if the Grants approved it because they wanted Harris’s money then they have only themselves to blame.

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  7. Old Baje July 15, 2016 at 9:07 AM #

    @ Bushie

    Don’t get me started on the arrogance of doctors in Barbados. That is a subject for a separate blog.

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  8. Sargeant July 15, 2016 at 9:11 AM #

    One door closes another opens, I lose a pick and get to replace the salary at another facility with a 25 hour work week, still time to get in a golf game or lounge on the beach.

    SWEET

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  9. Past Zone July 15, 2016 at 9:30 AM #

    Don’t Grant’s now deceased wife was a good and decent woman………. but her husband was a fine piece of work. He has a major chip on his shoulder and has been known to curse people of both the white and black race with equal nastiness, al at the drop of a hat.
    HE IS BEST LEFT ALONE.

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  10. Well Well & Consequences July 15, 2016 at 10:07 AM #

    Baje…Peter Harris has a very nasty way of using whatever is available to him, blackmail through recording, video taping to get what he wants, he is never to be underestimated…scum personified.

    There was an attempt to acquire Bayview Hospital by Dr. Sparman and other doctors, Sparman paid his down payment, Harris was not a part of that arrangement, but have they knifed Sparman in his back with a rusty old spoon, Harris and other doctors now own Bayview Hospital and Sparman is still trying to get back his deposit…lol

    The now Platinum Motors formerly another car business owned by local whites the elderly widow did not want to sell to Harris, but he had information and intended to use it….she sold.

    Harris has no scruples and is exceedingly greedy….like Maloney, Bizzy et al….he intends to take over the whole country, control both governments, which is not hard to do…and do whatever he feels like to the people…..which is even easier with a corrupt DPP.

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  11. Georgie Porgie July 15, 2016 at 10:11 AM #

    @ Past Zone July 15, 2016 at 9:30 AM #
    As I said above,I dont know the Grants, but certainly CHARLES should also have been left alone! It is one thing to be chummy in medical school, but truly one really learns more about their high school and university acquaintences after school

    re Grant …….had no private practice experience when it came to drawing up business plans, negotiating with financial institutions, seeking private sponsorship, financially running, marketing, designing, constructing, outfitting, staffing (administrative), etc. of a private health care facility.

    Who does? This is not taught in medical school. You learn on the fly.
    As a youngster my father took me to Dr Innis when he operated from Pinfold St.He had a design for his examination areas that was clearly copied from the ER at University HoSpital of the WI at Mona (I learned this 13 years later, off course.)

    Grant should have set up with two simple consulting rooms and two simple operating rooms, and expanded as he became successful. If he didnt succeed , he and his wife could have sought work elsewhere.

    You can do a lot of doctoring with a stethoscope, a sphygmomanometer and your diagnostic set to begin with and A LOT OF PATIENCE AND FAITH, and the understanding that our people will only come to your place in droves when you are already successful, and dont really need them. I lacked the patience and the understanding, so I opted to go and help deliver my baby in the system that I designed that came into being on Sept 1 1985 in the polyclinics.

    Since Grant had a wife who was also a Dr, he really needed no one else as partners. All other doctors who worked in his place as he expanded should have been employees.

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  12. Well Well & Consequences July 15, 2016 at 10:18 AM #

    A plus for Harris is that he got greedy, black lawyers also with no scruples who are eager, willing and able to help him…that is why he keeps so many of them on retainer, opened law firms and doctor’s office, the tighter he sews up the island, the less likely it is for people to get away from him or the 2 governments. ..DBLP to defy him.

    Harris is still trying to put his own government in place…get rid of DBLP nuisances, they are too slow and stupid for what he got planned…lol

    Soon he will follow the other parasite Maloney, giving interviews trying to fool bajans what a good lowlife he is….as usual.

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  13. Well Well & Consequences July 15, 2016 at 10:25 AM #

    GP…ya right, that practice could have been built up leaving out the former school mates and all the dirtbags.

    Dr. Coppin started his little practice upstairs Jordans by himself over 20 years ago, it has become very established, very successful and is still operational.

    When you invite your friend who invites his buddy from the bottom of the barrel who is stealing from his policyholders and stealing money that should be paid out to injured people….that is blighted money, nothing good can come out of any such arrangement.

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  14. LOL July 15, 2016 at 10:43 AM #

    The Grants were obviously business idiots who never appreciated until it was too late that they were swimming with the sharks. This is life, my advice would be chalk this up to a hard learning experience and move on. This is what life’s all about. Makes no sense dwelling on a past event that you can never reverse. Illud est quod est.

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  15. Well Well & Consequences July 15, 2016 at 10:49 AM #

    When you swim with sharks….you need a lot of bandaid…old NY truism.

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  16. LOL July 15, 2016 at 11:17 AM #

    Where is Leslie Haynes aka The Gnome, Mr. Harris’ PR man on BU? Can you imagine a senior man of silk, a former president of Barbados Bar Association and former acting High Court Judge here in Barbados, behaving in a most unprofessional, unethical and despicable manner here on BU yesterday? How disgraceful to the legal profession. His former senior legal partners, Sir Harold ‘Bree’ St.John and Jack Dear, both were friends of mine, must be rolling in their graves. Neither of these great legal luminaries would ever have conducted them self in such a subjacent manner. We have sunk to a new and unprecedented level here in Barbados. We have been overrun by philistines. Shameful.

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  17. David July 15, 2016 at 11:26 AM #

    Obviously the Grants saw an opportunity to cater to a niche market read the rich and famous of the Sandy Lane variety in Sunset Crest hence the name. There is inherent risk associated with any business venture. Monday morning quarter backing is part of it.

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  18. Retribution-things that make me go hum! July 15, 2016 at 12:13 PM #

    @ well, well – Baje…Peter Harris has a very nasty way of using whatever is available to him, blackmail through recording, video taping to get what he wants, he is never to be underestimated…scum personified.

    ……You certainly know the Bastard – PH well! The Grant’s underestimated the gangster in Peter if they did indeed sold him shares. Ask anyone that is employed by any of his businesses if they are happy in their jobs. One deceitful, conniving bastard!!

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  19. LOL July 15, 2016 at 12:15 PM #

    Brian Charles is not the main issue here. He was a side show to the main event. The Grants obviously failed to conduct adequate due diligence as far as Peter Harris was concerned. From the 90s when Harris and Bruce Bailey opened CGI on River Road, the word on the street was that these two were ruthless and dishonest. All one had to do was have a word with someone like Adrian Deane at BF&F, later Sagicor General, to find out how they both escaped coming under the scrutiny of the fraud squad. The Grants miserably failed at their Sandy Crest venture because they failed to deny Harris a place at their table. While sad, this is the truth. They have no one else to blame but them self.

    Brian Charles may have become an enemy sometime into the venture, but I’m almost 100% certain in saying that Charles could not have pulled off this coup without Harris’ backing and guidance. So while Charles may not have been well intentioned as far as the Grants were concerned, it is obvious that he was a business neophyte, unlikely owning much more than a corner shop before he was given a chance to come into Sandy Crest.

    We live and learn in life. Or at the very least, we all should.

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  20. Well Well & Consequences July 15, 2016 at 12:46 PM #

    Retribution. ..Bjans are tolerating and accepting the criminal behavior of Harris and other minority business people in silence, the governments condone those criminal behaviors and as long as the people do not speak out, expose publicly for the world to see what the minority criminals do, it will continue….the voters have to punish the politicians as the enablers.

    Harris refuses to pay one too many injured people their compensation, he refuses to stop stealing from one too many of CGI policyholders. ..and that is why the exposure of all the nasty, fraudulent, criminals things he does with Simmons, the DPP, lawyers and doctors….will be exposed infinitely.

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  21. Georgie Porgie July 15, 2016 at 12:52 PM #

    Monday morning quarter backing SHITE.

    I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT

    THIS IS COMMON SENSE AND EXPERIENCE THAT YOU GAIN ON OUR OWN OR OBSERVING AND TALKING TO YOUR FRIENDS

    Dr Coppin, a simple poor boy from Amity Lodge is doing well in an area close by enough in St James.

    NO MEDICAL SCHOOL TEACHES HOW TO ENTER private practice

    EXPERIENCE IS GAINED OVER TIME
    sucessful practices grow with TIME

    I NEVER DREW UP business plans, OR negotiatED with financial institutions, OR SOUGHT private sponsorship, financially running, marketing, designing, constructing, outfitting, staffing (administrative), etc. of a private health care facility, AND MOST DOCTORS DONT DO IT.

    they grow gradually as they succeed

    only wells and graves start at the top!

    THE GRANTS DID SHITE AND THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT SIMPLE

    WHAT THE ASS MONDAY MORNING QUARTER BACKING GOT TO DO WID ANYTHING

    RE Obviously the Grants saw an opportunity to cater to a niche market read the rich and famous of the Sandy Lane variety in Sunset Crest

    EVERYPLACE YOU GO TO SET UP IS A NICHE MARKET EVERYWHERE! EVERYWHERE!

    IT TAKES TIME FOR A PRACTICE TO GROW. THATS WHAT MY Monday morning quarter backing HAS TAUGHT ME

    I HAVE SEEN PRACTICES GROW IN ALL SORTS OF PLACES IN BIM EVEN BY FOLK WHO ARE GRUMPY AND POOR PHYSICIANS

    WHEN I BEGAN I SAW A NUMBER OF FOLK WHO CAME TO ME FROM A CERTAIN WHITE MAN. THEY WERE ALL ON THE SAME LITTLE WHITE TABLETS BUT THEY ALL HAD DIFFERENT DIAGNOSES

    re There is inherent risk associated with any business venture.THIS INCLUDES OPENING A RUM SHOP OR SELLING FISH CAKES AT THE OVAL IT INCLUDES TALKING SHITE TOO– THEY CALL SUCH COMEDIANS ah lie

    THERE ARE A FEW DRS DOING WELL IN BIM TODAY WHO WHILE DOING THEIR MSc IN FAMILY PRACTICE WORKED ON SUNDAY MORNINGS IN MY OFFICE. THEY PAID NO RENT. THEY KEPT WHAT MONEY THEY MADE. AND LEFT A FEW DOLLARS FOR ANY SUPPLIES THEY USED.

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  22. Georgie Porgie July 15, 2016 at 1:14 PM #

    WHEN BRANFORD TAITT VISITED A CERTAIN POLYCLINIC WHERE I WORKED IN THE 80’S HE OPINED THAT WE COULD TRY TO MAKE THE AREA FOR THE GENERAL PRACTICE CLINIC SUCH THAT IT WAS MORE LIKE A PRIVATE DRS OFFICE

    I TOOK A RULE, A PENCIL AND A SHEET OF PAPER AND DREW A SKETCH TO CONVERT AN AREA IN THE CLINIC INTO THREE CONSULTING ROOMS, THREE EXAMINING ROOMS AND A NURSES TRIAGE STATION FROM WHICH ACTIBITY INTO AND OUGHT OF THESE AREAS COULD BE MONITORED

    OFF COURSE I had no private practice experience when it came to drawing up business plans, negotiating with financial institutions, seeking private sponsorship, financially running, marketing, designing, constructing, outfitting, staffing (administrative), etc. of a private health care facility.

    MY PLAN WENT DOW TO THE MAN RESPONSIBLE FOR SUCH THINGS IN THE MINISTRY
    FELLAS CAME UP TO SEE HOW IT WOULD WORK. ONE OF THE WIGS SAID TO ME “YOU SHOULD BE IN THE MINISTRY”

    GUESS WHAT? A JACK ASS WHO HAD BEEN A PUBLIC HEALTH INSPECTOR WHO WAS PROMOTED TO HEALTH PLANER VETOED MY STELLAR FLOOR PLAN AFTER THE MORON HAD DONE SOME MONDAY MORNING QUARTER BACKING

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  23. LOL July 15, 2016 at 1:18 PM #

    All of a sudden it struck me when I reread the lead article, that Dr. Charles was requesting to be paid 15K/ month for working 5 hours a day or 25 hours per week. Does this include a lunch hour? How many weeks holiday was he expecting per year? Conservatively, assuming that the rate of inflation was 3.5% per year since 2008, it means he would be requesting $32,000/ month in 2016 for working 40 hour/ week, if he were writing that letter today. Not a bad sum. He is obviously a hot shot hospital administrator. Dexter James better watch out, Charles may be coming for his QEH job soon. Who do I send in my letter of application to?

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  24. Retribution-things that make me go hum! July 15, 2016 at 4:52 PM #

    Lol!

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  25. LOL July 15, 2016 at 6:09 PM #

    I’m in a predicament, I’ve been reliably told that Harris and a few other shareholders are plotting to toss Charles under the Sandy Crest bus very soon, so he may actually find himself out of a job once again. Poor fellow. Life is very unfair. So I’m not sure if I should apply for the post of CEO at the QEH or wait for Charles’ Sandy Crest post which should become vacant before the end of 2016. Any good advise would be welcomed.

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  26. Well Well & Consequences July 15, 2016 at 6:31 PM #

    Ya better stay away from those small sharkslike Harris et al…ya don’t know if rea, reall big sharks are watching them, seeing blood in the water and getting ready to gobble them up, you do not want to be around for any such event…karma is a bitch.

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  27. Simple Simon July 15, 2016 at 11:53 PM #

    @Georgie Porgie July 15, 2016 at 10:11 AM “Since Grant had a wife who was also a Dr”

    She was not.

    Wife/mother/admin clerk more like it

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  28. Simple Simon July 16, 2016 at 12:02 AM #

    Dominica surely needs Dr. Charles much more than Barbados does. Maybe by paying him $169,000 per year in 2007 for running the emergency department of the QEH we provided a disincentive, and denied him the opportunity to be of service to Dominica.

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  29. Simple Simon July 16, 2016 at 12:03 AM #

    Wasn’t Mrs. Grant was Dennis Johnson’e ex-wife?

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  30. David July 16, 2016 at 12:25 AM #

    @Simple

    And your point?

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  31. LOL July 16, 2016 at 1:00 PM #

    Where is The Gnome aka Leslie Haynes? Is he a coward who is now trying to hide behind his silence. Too late.

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  32. David July 16, 2016 at 1:04 PM #

    The fact that the de Gnome went to a bigfoot move to attempt to mamaguy the BU family gives vivid insight to the rules these people are prepared to play.

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  33. TheGazer July 16, 2016 at 1:20 PM #

    DeGone promised to delive documents
    DeGone claimed he uploaded documents
    DeGone then disappear.. He Gone.
    I think DeGone did himself a disservice when he carried water for another and was forced to disappear when he couldn’t carry his own water (keep his promise).

    At one stage I was wondering why the blogmaster was not sharing the uploaded document, but now I see it was also an attempt to undermine the blogmaster’s credibility and attack his integrity. They are wicked smart.

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  34. Well Well & Consequences July 16, 2016 at 1:55 PM #

    Harris and his foolish lawyers always have a last minute dirty angle to try, they do the same things in the court system, because it is allowed. They have only managed to get away with those dirty deeds before for many years because people did not know what to look for….but not anymore.

    All of Harris’ dirty secrets are out there for everyone to be aware of, be careful of and fight back.

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  35. LOL July 16, 2016 at 5:53 PM #

    I’ve known Leslie Haynes aka The Gnome for quite a few years. Never great friends, but whenever we met at a social gathering, we would exchange pleasantries and a word or two. Most who know him, were aware of his drinking problem, but it was not something that anyone held against him. He was an attorney after all.

    However, his performance and utterances on BU lately was not only an eye opener, but a shocker. His credibility has taken an irreparable battering. I cannot believe that a person who I once so highly respected has sank to such a base level. All in his attempt to curry favour with his most recent paymaster, Mr. Peter Harris.

    It says a lot about the character of someone when you are prepared to compromise your integrity and reputation all in the name of a dollar.

    Mr. Haynes all that glisters (glitters) about you is definitely not gold. Mr. Haynes, you have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are certainly not genuine gold. The closest you’ll ever come to being equated to such a precious metal, is being a costume jewellery variety knock off.

    On deeper reflection, this very much sounds like the story of your life.

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  36. Georgie Porgie July 16, 2016 at 5:57 PM #

    re Simple Simon July 15, 2016 at 11:53 PM #
    @Georgie Porgie July 15, 2016 at 10:11 AM “Since Grant had a wife who was also a Dr”

    She was not.

    Wife/mother/admin clerk more like it

    SO IS THE WIFE OF DR BEVAP……………………….FOR OVER 30 YEARS ON GOLF CLUB ROAD

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  37. Bupps July 20, 2016 at 6:09 AM #

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/83411/public-care-ascribing-motive

    Morning David
    BU had once again forced the traditional media to present a full picture of a previously published story.

    Keep pushing!

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  38. David July 20, 2016 at 6:22 AM #

    @Bupps

    Roy Morris should have asked Dr. Grant or his ”source” why Grant signed. And he mentioned good journalism?

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  39. Well Well & Consequences July 20, 2016 at 6:58 AM #

    Dropped

    Let me conclude with a sentence from the article in the non-traditional media that criticised our reporting: “Dr Grant did not pay back money . . . , the case was dropped, end of story.”

    My question: Why did Dr Grant give up $45 000 owed to him by the company, as well as shareholder $65 543.59 in dividends as well as giving up his very valuable 140 833 shares in the company? And why did he drop his claim for $3 million?

    All this was done and agreed with the directors of TMI, the parent company of Sandy Crest Medical Centre, by the deed signed on June 23, 2016, the same day as the dismissal of the case by the court. Why? – See more at:

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/83411/public-care-ascribing-motive#sthash.BvuClBtH.dpuf

    Morris should know Harris well, he worked for him.

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  40. Well Well & Consequences July 20, 2016 at 7:06 AM #

    Some of the shareholders of Sandy Crest……doctors who should not be writing medical reports for claimants who have cases against CGI Insurance…a clear conflict of interest since the medical reports always lies to the judges of the supreme court about the true nature of the claimant’s injuries and there is a connection between Peter Harris of CGI, Sandy Crest…and everyone of these dictors..

    Ask Dr. George Drakes who was exposed a year ago.

    Those shareholders are Dr Brian Charles, Dr George H. Drakes, Dr Ann Marie Cruickshank, William Alexander McDonald, Dr and Mrs Raymond Massay, Dr Chaynie Williams, Dr David Byer, Dr Andrew D. Forde, Dr Euclid Morris and Kathy Ellis. –

    See more at:
    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/83411/public-care-ascribing-motive#sthash.BvuClBtH.N8CGoaqu.dpuf

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  41. pieceuhderockyeahright July 20, 2016 at 7:29 AM #

    You know, life is a really funny thing.

    I was reading the Roy Morris story and I said to myself, ” myself this is such a Crazy thing.”

    And I went on to say “why is it that Roy is going out to “bat for Peter Harris?”

    Not many people would know that Roy Peter Harris and Ted Taylor started the company Barbados Today together as what they thought were equal partners.

    That was around the time Roy had launched the earlier version of the software game Pokeymon his was called Pokeygun which cause him to leave The Nation.

    Peter, as is his custom with all his partners, including Bruce, screwed them and reoriented Barbados Today hmmmmmmm Barbados and….. Anyways that is another story

    So the question again to Roy when he is going outside to check who broke his windows would be “does your sanctimonious wisdom and new found maturity extend to being kind to the man who greased your pooch and did the same thing he did to Dr Grant to you too?”

    De ole man jes axing

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  42. de pedantic Dribbler July 20, 2016 at 7:57 AM #

    @ David July 20, 2016 at 6:22 AM re ” Roy Morris should have asked Dr. Grant or his ”source” why Grant signed. And he mentioned good journalism?”

    Mr Blogmaster you have prosecuted this matter over these two blogs with a strange stance.

    I was unable to understand why a reporter’s factual and simple details from the court’s completed case docket made the Nation complicit is some attack on Dr. Grant and thus I imagined there was some deep personal matters which I missed.

    Here again I do not understand your query as it relates to “good journalism”.

    How does the ‘why’ change the dynamic as stated in the public details of the deed unless Grant was coerced in some illegal way.

    You obviously know the real meat and potato of this gravy and that’s all good but on the face of it you are prosecuting a case of seemingly ‘simple’ reporting and ascribing some ulterior motives.

    That sir also generates a ‘why’.

    On the other hand Messrs Well-well points to very nefarious motives when she plainly states: “doctors who should not be writing medical reports for claimants who have cases against CGI Insurance…a clear conflict of interest since the medical reports always lies to the judges of the supreme court about the true nature of the claimant’s injuries”.

    Now that is straight up defamation as she is making a claim that deliberately inaccurate reports are prepared by named doctors.

    Wha really going on with this Sandy Crest thing… I presume we will never really know besides innuendo and cross-claims of journalistic dishonesty.

    You certainly will not state it here and the Nation will always be playing catch-up… as according to Well-well, Morris knows more than he is saying because he “should know Harris well, he worked for him.”

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  43. de pedantic Dribbler July 20, 2016 at 8:18 AM #

    @Pieces, ok crossing posts there. Are you going to excise this thing. Cause according to you now this whole shee-bang is one effed up cluster …screw-up. From which there is only one big-Petered man.

    Like you, I too am deeply appreciative of Roy Morris’ most ‘new found maturity’. He very honesty noted in this recent piece that he is not a saint and does not pal-around with angels.

    I was taken-aback frankly that he devoted his entire column to clearing the air on this Sandy Crest matter based on the BU provocation…that was ‘alarming’ to say the least.

    Alarming because BU have been extremely provocative with much more impressive national issues and I don’t recall that he was so aggressively nuanced in his desire to set the record straight re his paper’s reporting on any of them.

    Wha is it about this Sandy Crest matter…can somebody enlighten …please!

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  44. Donna July 20, 2016 at 8:29 AM #

    Well Well,

    It’s not just those doctors who are doing it. It is common practice to write bad reports for patients because of a conflict of interest. Many of these doctors fail to disclose that they are also on the insurance company’s payroll, it appears.

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  45. David July 20, 2016 at 8:30 AM #

    @dee word

    Jus carry on smarty. Roy Morris understands. We are not done prosecuting this matter either.

    >

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  46. Well Well & Consequences July 20, 2016 at 8:34 AM #

    Yeah Donna…that is why when you actually have a group of names of those doctors, some who are not well known, you point them out so the public will know to avoid them when they have a personal injury case with insurance companies and let the judges know of the conflict of interest in court, avoid ennding up with a falsified medical report written by one of these scum with no ethics…..waste no opportunity to expose them all.

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  47. Sargeant July 20, 2016 at 8:36 AM #

    @David
    Roy Morris should have asked Dr. Grant or his ”source” why Grant signed. And he mentioned good journalism?
    +++++++++++
    Au contraire David, Mr. Morris has made what in my view is a factual rebuttal of your article.

    Yuh know I don’t hold any brief for Mr. Morris or The Nation but he has presented a compelling narration of the facts and where I grew up we used to say “give jack e jacket and Jean she drawers”.

    The question again is why would Dr. Grant give up his shares or forgive the debt owing? Your article was clear that Dr. Grant didn’t not pay back any money but if you forgive debt and surrender shares without compensation then that is a form of repayment so it is a question of semantics.

    Over to you David

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  48. Well Well & Consequences July 20, 2016 at 8:38 AM #

    When ya have a predilection for underaged girls….ya vulnerable.

    When a country does not have or does not enforce laws against a newspaper publishing 2 children having sex……dissemination of child porn……the whole country is vulnerable.

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  49. Well Well & Consequences July 20, 2016 at 8:43 AM #

    Pedant………Je vous ai déjà dit d’arrêter de jouer avocat.

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  50. David July 20, 2016 at 8:43 AM #

    @Sargeant

    All Morris has done was to summarise in his article what is listed in an incomplete document sent to BU by TheGnome.

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  51. Well Well & Consequences July 20, 2016 at 10:27 AM #

    Ah guess, it did not go as planned for Gnome.

    Why did Morris not print all of that in the first article….why leavr out the most important detsils, goes to show as people have been saying all along, the nation newspaper only gives ya half the story.

    And why did Harris not post all the information or any of the information re the case in his barbadostoday. ….is Morris the fall guy..lol

    What’s wrong with posting a copy of the signed document, according to Morris. ..it is public knowledge.

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  52. Well Well & Consequences July 20, 2016 at 10:29 AM #

    Piece…ah bet you there is a digital recording out there…lol

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  53. LOL July 20, 2016 at 5:56 PM #

    When has Roy Morris ever written a substantive editorial on rape? Especially the subject statutory rape. If he does ever tackle such a touchy subject, is this going to be written in the first person? Does anyone think it is merely coincidental that he has avoided this subject because it’s too close to home – the Nation & Morris? If you do think that his avoidance is coincidental, you are obviously living in the Outbacks of Australia or your name is Roy Morris. Is this the same Roy Morris who receives a personal and under the table retainer fee of 5-10K per payee per month, from a number of people, including Peter Harris, to ensure that the Nation does not publish any bad press on these guys or their companies? I guess that as of late, he has become a born again moralist. Morris as the proverbial leopard cannot change his spots, or for that matter, change his feelings of pride for those dastardly and repulsive spots. Et est id quod est.

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  54. de pedantic Dribbler July 20, 2016 at 6:20 PM #

    @David, I look forward to your continued ventilation and prosecution on these pages.

    As noted by @Sargeant, it appears that the same document which you consider ‘incomplete’ is the one Morris used to set out an effective rebuttal.

    The fact David is that we can only ask any journalist to put the facts out there and let the the chips fall where they may…in that regard there was nothing preventing a publication of the Gnome document…incomplete or not.

    But realistically this is a personal matter re Dr. Grant, his friends and family and is not of public interest…. Unless of course as Well-well asserts it speaks to a deep and devilish scheme of medical fraud and other illegal acts within/between the insurance companies and the medical fraternity.

    About that we are all interested!!!

    An amusing side note is that Morris boldly stated in his piece that the lawyer of standing (one of them anyhow) was the same one that was identified here by a blogger as the insider Gnome…seems that blogger knew of what he spoke.

    @Well-well, I ask one or two questions and I am lambasted as playing as a piece-a lawyer. O me miserum, how dah does work! A fellow can’t push a checker along the board without getting huff!

    Everyone in life has an agenda I believe. So we always must be open to be questioned.

    This in got one bad-word to do with ‘… de jouer avocat’.

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  55. Well Well & Consequences July 20, 2016 at 7:27 PM #

    Pedant…ya too touchous..lol

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  56. Well Well & Consequences July 20, 2016 at 7:28 PM #

    And Pedant…ya may have noticed, or not, that Morris did not publish the document either, partial or in whole…what does that tell you.

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  57. pieceuhderockyeahright July 20, 2016 at 7:40 PM #

    @ LOL

    Regarding your question about “When has Roy Morris ever written a substantive editorial on rape? Especially the subject statutory rape….”

    THe scum did!!

    Rather he did by proxy when in May Coo Coo and flying fish published that nasty piece about the rape of a female who is same sex oriented.

    THe salaciousness of the article got another “Nation” the United Nations Representative? involved and he had to apologise

    Between he, Ooo Coo and Flying Fish and Sankey Price dem does either publish or get into some serious sexual commentary or hankey panky with guns.

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  58. LOL July 20, 2016 at 7:48 PM #

    Let this sink in for a moment: Roy Morris is the Editor In Chief of Barbados’ leading newspaper, the Nation. What message is that sending to our youth? Does anyone else have the same hopeless feeling about our society?

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  59. LOL July 20, 2016 at 8:02 PM #

    @piece

    I was aware of that sad and disturbing article, but I gave Morris the benefit of the doubt. I honestly thought that it was the Saturday Sun editor who committed this faux pas. Obviously, I should have realised that this was Morris’ Freudian slip, and the real Morris was just showing his true colours.

    Is it true that Morris was head hunted for his current job at the Nation? Are things that bad that the directors/ owners of the Nation had to dig deep down into the cesspit to find/ recycle Morris?

    Are there any surprises that Barbados has retrogressed over the latter ½ of the 50 years since our independence? Politically, socially, economically, spiritually, morally, editorially and otherwise.

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  60. de pedantic Dribbler July 20, 2016 at 8:06 PM #

    Well, well, touchous nah…only if it’s some hanky-panky funny business. Otherwise all good and well in joust-riposte!

    Now re your Morris not publishing the doc…it tells me that the Nation don’t want to get them backside in court over publishing private data…I ain’t playing lawyer here but I imagine that people could get into a bit of trouble when they get things dat fall off a truck.

    He purportedly said what was in the document so publishing the actual thing was totally unnecessary.

    When the big shot journalist in Washington start their story on the Watergate matter for example they got hold of private data which they wrote about but they surely didn’t publish documents as is…you know well enough it doesn’t always work that way or really is there a need for it to work that way.

    But anyhow I have no brief for the Nation so don’t let we get caught up that I defending dem one or way or other. Just saying there was no need to publish the doc itself…so it really doesn’t signify anything.

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  61. Well Well & Consequences July 20, 2016 at 8:31 PM #

    “He purportedly said what was in the document so publishing the actual thing was totally unnecessary.”

    Pedant…real newspapers back up their stories with evidence, if the nation backed up their story about two minors having sex with a photo of all things, 2 minors having sex for the world to see…why can’t Morris show the document..because he says so dont make it true..given his relationship to Harris….why is he so shy all of a sudden

    Doesn’t signify anything if it’s true…but if it’s not.

    Again..Harris has an online newspaper to publish whatever he wants, why would he need BU or nationnews to publish anything in whole or in part.

    Somebody os playing games..but…..one smart….

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