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Exposing the Legal and Political Sinfulness of the "Fingerprinting Regulations"

Submitted by David Comissiong, President, Clement Payne Movement
Prime Minister Fruendel Stuart and Attorney General Adriel Brathwaite

Prime Minister Fruendel Stuart and Attorney General Adriel Brathwaite

The most efficient way to respond to the many varieties of political “yardfowls” in Barbados who prostitute themselves  on the altar of political expediency is to expose them with the facts!

And so, I now propose to use this article to expose the facts underlying the legal and political “sinfulness” of the recently nullified Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations 2015, otherwise known as the “Fingerprinting Regulations”!

The facts are as follows:-

On the 17th of April 2015, the Right Hon. Freundel Stuart, the Minister responsible for Immigration, made the Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations 2015 – a legal instrument comprising some eighteen (18) regulations. At the time, Mr. Stuart purported to be acting under certain powers granted to him under the Immigration Act of Barbados to make regulations.

The Regulations that Mr. Stuart made on the 17th of April 2015 stipulated that :-

a) Where any person seeks to enter or depart from a port in Barbados, that person SHALL provide an Immigration Officer with “biometric data” (fingerprints, facial photographs, a scan of the retina of the eye) through the use of a biometrics system.

b) The Chief Immigration SHALL specify the type of biometrics data that a person shall provide.

c) A Citizen or Permanent Resident of Barbados who refuses to provide an Immigration Officer with the specified biometric data may be restrained from leaving Barbados or from re-entering Barbados.

d) A Citizen or Permanent Resident of Barbados who compiles with the demand to provide the specified biometric data when he or she leaves Barbados, but who then refuses to comply with the demand to provide the specified biometric when he or she seeks to return to Barbados SHALL be refused re-entry into Barbados.

Now, the first “political sin” that Mr. Stuart committed when he made these far-reaching Regulations, is that he made them without first consulting us – the people of Barbados – about this matter!

Indeed, before actually making any such Regulations, Mr. Stuart should have informed us – the people of Barbados – that he proposed to make regulations of such a fundamental and far-reaching nature, and should have given us the opportunity to think about, discuss and give feed-back on his proposal. Surely, this is how a democratic system of Government is supposed to work!

The second “political / legal sin” consists of the fact that the Regulations that Mr. Stuart made on the 17th of April 2015 constituted a clear breach of the statutory and Constitutional rights of the citizens and permanent residents of Barbados!

The Citizens and Permanent Residents of Barbados possess statutory and Constitutional rights to enter and to leave Barbados – rights that are outlined in the Immigration Act and in the Constitution as follows:-

Section 4 of the Immigration Act :

 

  1. A citizen has the right to enter Barbados.
2. A Permanent Resident shall, so long as he continues to be a Permanent Resident, be permitted to enter Barbados.
3. The Minister (responsible for Immigration) may prohibit the entry into Barbados  of any person other than a Citizen or Permanent Resident.

Section 22 of the Constitution :

1.      No person shall be deprived of his freedom of movement, that is to say… the right to enter Barbados, the right to leave Barbados…

3.      Nothing contained in or done under the authority of any law shall be held to be inconsistent with or in contradiction of this section to the extent that the law in question makes provision… for the imposition of restrictions on… any person’s right to leave Barbados that are reasonably required in the interests of defence, public safety or public order ”

Thus, the statutory and Constitutional right of Citizens of Barbados to ENTER Barbados (their native land) is absolute and unfettered, and cannot be restricted under any circumstances whatsoever !

The statutory and Constitutional right of Citizens to leave Barbados may be restricted, but only if such restriction is “reasonably required in the interest of defence, public safety or public order.”

But the blame for this second “political / legal sin” has to be shared between Mr. Stuart and his Attorney General, Mr. Adriel Brathwaite! As the Government’s chief Legal Officer, it fell to Mr. Brathwaite to discern that the Regulations made by Mr. Stuart breached both the Immigration Act and the Constitution; to point this out to Mr. Stuart; and to take steps to rectify the “mischief” embedded in the Regulations.

However, far from carrying out any such repair job, Messers Stuart and Brathwaite and the other members of the Administration compounded the wrong-doing by going on to engage in a number of fundamental procedural irregularities in relation to the said Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations 2015.

As noted before, the Regulations had been made by Mr. Stuart under the Immigration Act: and Section 31 (3) of the said Immigration Act stipulated that all regulations made by the Minister responsible for Immigration “shall be subject to negative resolution.”

Now, the legal procedure for enacting regulations that are “subject to negative resolution” is outlined in Section 41 of the Interpretation Act Chapter 1 of the Laws of Barbados as follows:-

(2)… the expression “statutory period” …shall mean a period of forty days…

(7) The expression “subject to negative resolution” when used in relation to any statutory instruments shall mean that such instruments shall, as soon as may be after they are made, be laid before each House, and if either House, within the statutory period next after such instrument has been so laid, resolves that the instrument shall be annulled, the instrument shall be void as from the date of the resolution…

And Section 16 (1) of the Interpretation Act goes on to state that – “Every enactment shall be published in the Gazette and, unless the enactment otherwise provides, shall take effect and come into operation on the date of such publication.”

So, having made the Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations on 17th April 2015, Mr. Stuart was obligated to lay them before the House of Assembly and the Senate, and to give the members of those two Houses of Parliament a period of forty (40) days to consider whether they wanted to bring and pass a Resolution to annul the said Regulations. Indeed, Mr. Stuart and his Attorney General were obligated to go through this procedure before they could publish the Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations in the Official Gazette as the law of the land !

But, in breach of this procedure, the Democratic Labour Party administration published the Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations in the Official Gazette of the 23rd of April 2015 as the law of the land, a mere six (6) days after they had been made, and before they had even been laid in the Houses of Parliament.

In fact, the DLP administration did not lay the Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations 2015 in Parliament until the 15th of June 2015, some 53 days after they had already been wrongfully published in the Official Gazette as the law of the land! Once again, this was totally wrong, and in breach of the legal procedure outlined in the Interpretation Act.

The final “political / legal sin” was unwittingly committed by the then Chief Immigration Officer, Ms Erine Griffith, when, in the month of February 2016, she purported to act under the power wrongfully given to her by regulation 3 (2) of the Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations 2015 to specify the type of biometric data that a person entering or leaving Barbados would be obligated to provide, and she stipulated that ALL such persons — with the exception of diplomats and children under the age of 16 years — would be obligated to be fingerprinted from the 1st day of April 2016.

It is these dastardly “political and legal sins” that the Supreme Court of Barbados extirpated with its ruling on Thursday the 30th of June 2016  in the case of “David Comissiong  v  Freundel Stuart, Adriel Brathwaite and Wayne Marshall”

I wish to once again thank the public spirited Attorneys-at-Law who participated with me on this quest for justice, legality and democratic righteousness in the political and legal affairs of our country— Mr. Edmund Hinkson MP, Mr. Lalu Hanuman, Mr Brian Weekes, and Senator Wilfred Abrahams.

Let us hope and pray that the current Governmental administration has learnt something of value from this matter.

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71 Comments on “Exposing the Legal and Political Sinfulness of the "Fingerprinting Regulations"”

  1. Caswell Franklyn July 3, 2016 at 3:23 PM #

    Thanks David Commissiong! This country owes you a debt of gratitude. Your actions protected us from the tyranny of this incompetent and dictatorial government. But you can’t always be the one to stand in the breach. That was the job of the official Opposition and they failed us miserably, notwithstanding that Edmund Hinkson and Wilfred Abrahams went along for the ride. Those two saw the incompetence of their leader and tried to salvage some respect for the BLP.

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  2. David July 3, 2016 at 3:31 PM #

    @Caswell

    Barbadians need to be informed how a negative resolution is co opted by parliament to support law.

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  3. balance July 3, 2016 at 3:37 PM #

    Congratulations Mr Commissiong on your victory on behalf of the people of Barbados . Your invaluable service to the nation in this regard can be likened to that of another unsung famous son of the soil Mr Wendell Mclean.

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  4. Hants July 3, 2016 at 3:42 PM #

    A 34-YEAR-OLD Trinidadian who left his Richplain Road, Diego Martin home in August 2014, accompanied by his two wives and two children, to perform guard duties in Syria was killed last Friday at his workplace during a US airstrike on ISIS terrorists in that country.

    The Trini was identified yesterday as Chris Steve Lewis also known as Abdool Rahim.

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  5. TheGazer July 3, 2016 at 3:53 PM #

    I salute you. I must second Caswell’s statement that the country owes you a debt of gratitude.

    Your resonse was so thorough and clear that I was able to fully understand your actions and your resulting success; but there are some simple questions that would add sanity to this picture

    (1) Why did they feel such a law was necessary? Was it a local initiative or was it driven by the need to help the US build a database?

    (2)If the deficiencies or the steps to be followed were so clear to you, how come those who would impose these regualation did not seethe deficiencies or /follow the steps. How could thhey make such a blunder?

    Clean and excellent writing. I salute you again

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  6. ac July 3, 2016 at 3:59 PM #

    Was it a law or was it not ? your fight was to stop a law not a proposal ..what the court did was to null and void a proposal a political win yes

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  7. Jeff Cumberbatch July 3, 2016 at 4:09 PM #

    Negative procedure is a type of procedure that a statutory instrument can go through. A statutory instrument under the negative procedure will automatically become law without debate unless there is an objection from either House. Conversely affirmative procedure refers to a procedure where a statutory instrument must be approved by both the House of Assembly and the Senate to become law.

    David has adequately explained it in his submission, but I hope that the above adaptation is also useful. It also calls into account the dereliction of duty by the Opposition who did not object to the instrument at any stage!

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  8. TheGazer July 3, 2016 at 4:28 PM #

    To the slow minded or those lacking legal acuity, your posting threw some light on comments made by other legal eagles.

    A next question that bothers me is what made them think that they would get away with this folly? Surely they expected some resistance from the opposition?

    Their action shows nothing more than the disrespect or contempt that they have for the citizens. And then they had the gall, to not defend their ill-begotten baby; leaving it to stand alone like some bastard child that was born of a whore. Like roaches, when the light was turned on them, they slithered away and refused to fight.

    They have been made aware that they are not the men they think they are. When OPPOSED, they folded like ‘cheap cameras’. They need to stick to bobol and back room deals

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  9. Caswell Franklyn July 3, 2016 at 4:37 PM #

    They did the same thing with the waiver of taxes for Cost-U-Less. The instrument was laid five years after the order was made instead of the 40 days and the Opposition said nothing. It is not only incompetence in Government; it is also incompetence in Opposition. You see why I am constantly calling for a system that eliminates both BLP and DLP.

    Sent from my iPad

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  10. David July 3, 2016 at 4:39 PM #

    @Jeff

    Thanks, you appreciate that The Gazer’s followup question motivated the ask, political craft?

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  11. pieceuhderockyeahright July 3, 2016 at 5:10 PM #

    Again David Comissiong,

    You are to be commended for this act of selfless perseverance irrespective of its fallout.

    Now de old man going comment at length as to the why the hurry presently but there are some house cleaning matters to attend to

    @ Eddie Hinkson MP.

    My man you going have to be careful that your actions do not translate your intentions to the Leader of the Troika and you are dismissed from your constituency seat like the others are slowly being replaced with the bottie lickers

    Maria was dismissed for far less and for you to have your eyes on her prize well that is a problem

    @ Caswell

    First matter Caswell.

    You real smart with your sentence regarding when the “statue was commissioned and sculpted by Broodhagen…” Hmmmmm if people were only to know the implications of that sentence but we going dun dere

    Second Matter ammmmm Cwc2007 ammmmmm lolol you really think that, with all that is involved in that matter, that theLoE gine be ingrunt enough to stick she Prme Minister by Default head out there in the public eye?

    Man you dun know dat she arrogant but she ent stupid.

    Unity Workers Union got any people in the Office of the Attorney General or the Immigration Department?

    Wunna gots to follow de money to the source to see why they pushed “the proposal” through with such alacrity.

    Caswell “you can hide and buy land but you cannot hide and wuk um”

    Dem got a number of people up in deah who would give you copies of the files Caswell.

    David C only touching pun the surface of the seriousness of this problem dig deeper and get de files.

    Oh ammmmm get a family in law like you brother wife sister man to buy you a phone that it ent connect to you so dat when you talking tuh people it ent you Caswell phone hear?

    Dem last name must not be related to you okay???

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  12. FearPlay July 3, 2016 at 5:16 PM #

    I must agree that the Opposition Barbados Labour Party carries almost as much blame in this shenanigan as the incompetent Democratic Labour Party. Who can we turn to for deliverance if the opposition sits idly by while this lame excuse for a government tries, time and again to fritter away the rights of the citizens of this country.

    It bears askance, how many other underhand deals that should have been brought to light and only a trained legal mind would discern, has gone unnoticed or unchallenged? An alert and competent press should have been screaming from the rooftops for an explanation the moment this came to light. What a pox to be wrought upon an honorable profession.

    One must also now view with a jaundiced eye any mouthings coming from the DLP’s legal lapdog. His credibility has been sold for a bowl of porridge and to think, a QC at that. What a prostitution of the designation. I suppose that was to be expected when an insignificant individual rises from obscurity to a position of such national prominence in just seven years.

    Sincere appreciation to Mr Commissiong on a job well done.

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  13. Hopi July 3, 2016 at 5:23 PM #

    “All such persons with the exception of diplomats” … some of the biggest criminals in the world are diplomats. They commit all types of crimes including drug-running and terrorism with immunity yet they would be excluded from this Bio-metric bs……more proof that real idiots are in charge in Barbados, but then again they are just following international protocol..real independent people.

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  14. David July 3, 2016 at 5:26 PM #

    There is a matter BU looks forward to the light of day being shone upon it and it – the Karib Cable acquisition by Columbus (TeleBarbados) followed later by TeleBarbados acquired by Cable & Wireless Communications (FLOW), now we have Liberty.

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  15. FearPlay July 3, 2016 at 5:34 PM #

    Next play on the cards – Liberty acquires Digicel. Back to square one.

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  16. Well Well & Consequences July 3, 2016 at 5:52 PM #

    “c) A Citizen or Permanent Resident of Barbados who refuses to provide an Immigration Officer with the specified biometric data may be restrained from leaving Barbados or from re-entering Barbados.

    d) A Citizen or Permanent Resident of Barbados who compiles with the demand to provide the specified biometric data when he or she leaves Barbados, but who then refuses to comply with the demand to provide the specified biometric when he or she seeks to return to Barbados SHALL be refused re-entry into Barbados.”

    In other words the Barbados government has no problem with reducing it’s citizens to the level of runaway slaves and stateless people….without their knowledge. .

    Not even the US government with all it’s warts and Patriot Act is that brutal….I have a feeling it’s the slaves in parliament came up with this nastiness all on their own to show their masters the extent of the brutality they can unleash on their own people. ..but day can only run so long, until night catches up.

    Bajans can thank these lawyers, Commissiong with the full knowledge that their taxpayer funded education was money well spent…I am sure many other lawyers contributed their legal knowledge….but many more need to contribute and clear their debt to the people on the island, while keeping the current beasts for government ministers, in constant check.

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  17. Well Well & Consequences July 3, 2016 at 6:15 PM #

    Hopi….interpol should know they need to keep their eyes glued on ALL diplomats, particularly Caribbean diplomats, read the recentky deceased Antigua diplomst….they have been known to use diplomatic pouches and passports to commit the most horrendous crimes. The ministers in Barbados believe themselves untouchable in their criminality because they are holders of these diplomatic passports, but take time Barney..

    The likes of Donville Inniss, Dennis Lowe and Michael Lsshley should alwa6ts be on international radars.

    AC…it null and voided a proposal to prevent it becoming law. ..the government will now have to prove otherwise, why dont you consult an attorney before posting rubbish.

    GAZER said ” How could they make such a blunder?

    Simple Gazer…..none of the ministers ever read the constitution and therefore do not know what it contains.

    Loved your comment Fairplay…it shows the conspiracy between government ministers and legal hacks like Gollop to undermine the constitution and violate basic human rights on the island….and as we all know it will only be majority blacks affected by the nasty actions of black men and women in parliament.

    It is shameful that Mia saw nothing wrong with the violation of the rights of the same citizens whose votes she now needs to ascend to pm status, good thing not everyone in opposition shares her views or inaction or bajans would be thoroughly screwed, no excuse, she should have been upfront in this challenge…it would have helped her reputation of being in partnership with the likes of Inniss.

    Caribbean people should also be thankful, what Commissiong et al did was make sure a precedent was not set across the Caribbean…with Barbados government as the lead instigator…they are traitors to black people these ministers.

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  18. millertheanunnaki July 3, 2016 at 6:24 PM #

    @ David Comissiong:

    The question is whether the same Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations 2015 can be applied to non-Barbadians as they stand.

    Do you really feel this administration can at this stage ask American and UK citizens to be fingerprinted before entering Barbados as visitors on holiday or on business?

    This whole long talk of national security as the reason behind the necessity for these regulations was just what it is; just a load of BS.

    There is absolutely no one boarding a UK or US port of departure can pose any serious threat to Barbados as to be detected by the jokey immigration in Bim.

    Why doesn’t this administration deal with the basics (and in keeping with its intellectual pay-grade) like cleaning up the ‘damn’ smelly garbage covered island which is posing a potentially seriously threat not only to security but also to public health and the viability of the country’s major forex earner and employment sponge.

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  19. ac July 3, 2016 at 7:22 PM #

    Nobody dare says differently if not they would be read the riot act , in any case i give Mr. Commissiong kudos for his clean and clear cut advocacy by invoking the rights of a democratic free people to bright about change by those actions provided within the laws rules and guidelines of a country.whereby others have sought to create panic and chaos for change, His means to an end demonstrates that in a democracy change can be brought about by civil measures

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  20. David July 3, 2016 at 7:32 PM #

    The attempt to introduce this change by stealth has put paid to any claim by this government being a transparent government.

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  21. Well Well & Consequences July 3, 2016 at 7:41 PM #

    ACs…yall got me seasick with ya seesawing, just be glad these attorneys are cognizant enough of the Constitution so that the human rights of you, your children and grandchildren going into the future are not violated by idiots for government ministers.

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  22. Hants July 3, 2016 at 7:52 PM #

    “Since November 2007, all foreign visitors to Japan must adhere to new entry requirements. Japanese immigration officials will photograph and fingerprint all visitors upon arrival.”

    Imagine if Barbados tried to do that.

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  23. Hopi July 3, 2016 at 7:55 PM #

    @ WellW……….You gotta realise that Interpol ain’t exactly some independent agency. Interpol only pursues those that they’ve been ordered to go after. This whole system is like a Russian Doll and I think you have a tad bit too much faith in the US system.

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  24. Well Well & Consequences July 3, 2016 at 8:00 PM #

    Not really Hopi…I know those dudes grab who they deem a threat to whatever they themselves are doing…I have no delusions in that regard, but also know that certain people are always a threat to what they themselves are doing…in that I have the ultimate confidence.

    It never fails..lol

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  25. David July 3, 2016 at 8:04 PM #

    @Hants

    As we post these comments arrivals to GAIA have to wait and unusually long time for baggage and to clear customs. Maybe there is only one dog to sniff all the bags and this is compounded because of a lack of sophisticated scanners to speed up the process.

    On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 11:52 PM, Barbados Underground wrote:

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  26. Well Well & Consequences July 3, 2016 at 8:11 PM #

    Hants…I actually see nothing wrong with fingerprinting visitors, you never know who or what ya letting into the country, read the Bulgarian scam artists complete with ATM scanners and more recently british visitrrs armed with same…who stole tons of money from banks on the island, even more recently the Canadian females with millions worth of Marijuana…ya never know what ya letting in…but it appears the government ministers are not interested in that and are more interested in showing how they can reduce their own people to criminals, then brutally violate their rights to be citizens.

    If it was only fingerprinting, which is questionable…but these were taking it to another level and render their own citizens stateless, if they did not comply…ya dealing with wild animals occupying parliament. ..not even North Korea does that…ya more likely to get a bullet, which I see as kinder than what the Barbados government is planning.

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  27. pieceuhderockyeahright July 3, 2016 at 8:50 PM #

    Chad 45 said to speak to and he alerted me and asked me to convey this information

    4 things

    One.

    Comissoing was right to defend against a procedurally inept DLP government who’s will not say that they used BLP information from the inepts before the Dale Smiley tenets ond his predecessor

    Two.

    This as Gazer has noted is not a Barbados Government initiated project. De muricans tired of Humpty Dumpty selling passports to undesirables and compromising the integrity of their screening processes. This is an ICE program not a Barbadian project, the initial project was tiefted I understand but this is an enhancement of what ….. But we like um so, why word with natives whe a body can get bull by a foreigner.

    Three.

    Pause and consider that we can’t even defend ourselves against the illegal practice of Red Caps teifing duty free run from the arrivals lounge how can we defend against terrorists inserting themselves into our aircraft transport cycle?

    We have to do this and post all the procedural steps, do this quickly.

    Four.

    When monkey handling gun or inept DBLP handling big people business how wunna expect Ingrunt Mia, Dale, Fumble, Adriel, Stacey and Humpty Dumpty to manage this?

    Mia may see it only as a way to hire subcontractors from England for a continuous contract with Bobo and the others only looking to get some.

    All we can pray is that Mujamixd doan get wind of these soft targets cause, because of fecundity, thank you The Gazer, we ent ready

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  28. balance July 3, 2016 at 8:52 PM #

    “FearPlay July 3, 2016 at 5:16 PM #

    I must agree that the Opposition Barbados Labour Party carries almost as much blame in this shenanigan as the incompetent Democratic Labour Party.”

    Utter nonsense. Just because they failed to criticise it does not make them complicit. The opposition did not introduce the draconian regulations nor there is no evidence to indicate they sanctioned them by vote or otherwise.

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  29. David July 3, 2016 at 9:05 PM #

    Let us understand balance – the Opposition saw this matter on the Order Paper, says nothing and they are not complicit or be held to account.

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  30. Pachamama July 3, 2016 at 9:08 PM #

    Seems to us that the PM is taking orders from the American Embassy.

    On its face, we cannot see any direct material interest for the GOB to propose such regulations. Is it now possible for a government to be this evil, fundamentally dictatorial?

    For us it would be wrong to interpret this wickedness by the DLP government as for its own sake.

    We would wish to suggest that the hidden hands of empire are behind these moves. Maybe a one-world government apparatus openly at work.

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  31. Bush Tea July 3, 2016 at 9:10 PM #

    Great job Mr. David Come-and-sing-a-song.

    One however has to express GREAT ‘admiration’ for a Prime Minister and AG who can withstand such embarrassing humiliation …coming as it does after the CAHILL debacle; coming as THAT did – after the CLICO /Parris shiite… and yet continue to f*** the country up… (foul)

    OH WAIT…. this has been the TREND since 2010.
    Have these people NO SHAME?

    Shiite man…. ANY self-respecting MAN would have resigned on principle, and a “man of principle” would have found some kinda ‘lens to fall on….

    These DLP low-lifers are not worth what Paddy shot…..

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  32. Bush Tea July 3, 2016 at 9:14 PM #

    LOL @ balance
    Just because they failed to criticise it does not make them complicit.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    What are you suggesting?
    That the opposition members are there for their good looks…?
    …or to improve the employment statistics?

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  33. Kammie Holder July 3, 2016 at 9:40 PM #

    @David Commissiong, with so many lawyers in the BLP why did they not take on this flagrant breach and bad piece of law?

    With over 1200 lawyers educated by the public coffers why the Bar Association did not find it fit to jump to protect the citizenry?

    David, why must it always be you, Caswell Frankly or me?

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  34. Kammie Holder July 3, 2016 at 9:47 PM #

    @Balanced, what hogwash of excuse you posit for the Queens Opposition in not defending country from a flawed law. Perhaps, you would offer the same excuse why we don’t hear the Opposition making noise about FOIA, ITAL or a new Defamation Act.

    Stop offer excuses for disgusting disappointing representation, don’t you have grans whose future you wish to protect?

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  35. Kammie Holder July 3, 2016 at 9:53 PM #

    Barbados does have a problem of both returning nationals practicing identity theft and using fake names to evade authorities. However, the GOB went about the border protection in the wrong way. Who is to blame?

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  36. balance July 4, 2016 at 5:22 AM #

    Kammie wish your voice was just as balanced when the other side was in opposition but were the controversial regulations brought by the leader of the opposition. I have noticed a new trend in political debate since the DLP came to power hitherto unknown before which holds the actions of what can be described as a powerless opposition in our form of governance up to scrutiny rather than placing blame where blame lies.

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  37. balance July 4, 2016 at 5:39 AM #

    In response to criticisms about the Fingerprinting proposal , The Attorney General proclaimed that –

    “Chances are that at some point of time, we are going to have a bad event [and] that in fact that is another use of information. So we will see how it goes,” said Brathwaite, who was adamant that “Government policy isn’t shaped by whether or not the Opposition, David Comissiong or anyone wants to take us to court.” [Attorney General, Adriel Brathwaite]

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  38. balance July 4, 2016 at 5:47 AM #

    William Skinner

    In the real world fingerprinting people at ports of entry is normal. In the real world spending $7 million dollars to celebrate 50 years of independence will be okay. In our world of polarised politics and political stupidity , we cannot discuss anything without seeing it through BLP/DLP eyes. A party that spent over $240 million to build a cricket stadium while leaving old pipe lines to leak water will now have problems with $7 million. Pot calling kettle black again………….
    As for the finger printing, the right move but once again poor political PR and bungling by this inept DLP government.”

    Perhaps the above in an indication of why the opposition prefers to sleep at the wheel rather than oppose

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  39. Well Well & Consequences July 4, 2016 at 5:54 AM #

    Brathwaite is lying as usual of course, the only bad event is the sewer rats like himself in parliament trying to violate the rights of citizens.

    First of all they will need credible proof that any event will happen in the Caribbean. ..let alone Barbados…the US has everywhere wired for sound more or less and are always among the first of the industrialized countries to pick up any terrorists chatter.

    Brathwaite andvthe otger dummies in parliament do not have access to any such resources or the weapons to deter any such very unlikely event.

    Brathwaite and the other sewer rats in parliament are frauds and wannabes, the only people should be fingerprinted entering and leaving the island are those in parliament, they are dangerous to country and people.

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  40. balance July 4, 2016 at 6:21 AM #

    Why would a caring DLP Government bring legislation to unfair Barbadians? This should not have happened in the first place. Had this attempt to introduce this regressive legislation not been made, neither the Mr Commissiong, the BLP nor anybody else would have had to challenge this -embarrassing to the government- legislation in court. I am not aware of any time in the history of Barbados that the opposition has ever brought a case against the Government in court. For those who believe that the opposition should have challenged it in court, from reports in the newspaper it seems to me that it was vehemently challenged by the BLP in the highest court of the land that is Parliament please if Mr Dale Marshall’s contribution to the debate as reported was an accurate account.

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  41. Bush Tea July 4, 2016 at 6:27 AM #

    Steupss @ balance
    You are sounding like AC.

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  42. Old Baje July 4, 2016 at 6:57 AM #

    Congratulations to David Comissiong.

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  43. ac July 4, 2016 at 6:58 AM #

    Using words like time bombs to set off explosive sentiments which re vibrates a whole nation into shell shock that is what the blp operatives like to do
    The govt made a proposal which indeed is plausible on the evidence that the world is being inundated by evil people who wants to do harm across the globe
    The word was sent stating there was a denial of the people constitutional right of free movement written within the proposal and to which the court agreed
    the questions remaining on the proposal are still relevant and at some time would be brought or tabled again
    Those questions which address security of a nation and the right of govt to pursue methods which will oversee while providing security and safety for the people
    AS usual the opposing side would scream holler and make noises after the fact while having no feasible or alternatives proposal as was indicative by the opposition issuance of no alternatives when the proposal was first table in Parliament in 2015
    However not to to be undermine and be seen as weak and out done the opposition gladly rides a wave of political opportunism after the horse is out of the barn .

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  44. Hants July 4, 2016 at 7:10 AM #

    So the facts underlying the legal and political “sinfulness” of the recently nullified Immigration “Fingerprinting Regulations” are being exposed and Bajans will not be fingerprinted at our “ports”.

    We don’t fingerprint tourists and other travelers so no point fingerprinting Bajans.

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  45. Old Baje July 4, 2016 at 7:15 AM #

    Thanks, Caswell, for letting us know that the Cost U Less concessions were the subject of a negative resolution. That was a nasty piece of business. I understand why the opposition didn’t make a big fuss – snouts in the trough. But I still wonder why Andrew Bynoe, Massy and countless other supermarket owners didn’t shout and scream.

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  46. balance July 4, 2016 at 7:39 AM #

    “Bush Tea July 4, 2016 at 6:27 AM #

    Steupss @ balance
    You are sounding like AC”

    steupss@Bushtea
    and you sounding like carson

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  47. David July 4, 2016 at 7:43 AM #

    For the politically blind, individuals have rights and the extent to which the government – elected by the people – wants to negotiate or give away those rights it becomes an issue for the people. This is where citizen advocacy is important to a breathing democracy. How many times have we had to listen to a minister of government explain after the fact the Barbados signed on to some international treaty therefore x or y must now be the case. We have to do better at being more transparent when transacting business on behalf of the people.

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  48. David July 4, 2016 at 7:52 AM #

    The Cost U less matter was an issue in the last campaign, it is difficult to sniff out who the shareholders are if you have paper companies fronting for beneficial owners. It is evident that the granting of concessions to a retail outfit and a consumer of forex was a backroom deal to benefit some. Has Cost U Less broken the back of food prices in Barbados?

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  49. Bush Tea July 4, 2016 at 7:55 AM #

    @ Old Baje
    But I still wonder why Andrew Bynoe, Massy and countless other supermarket owners didn’t shout and scream.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    No one “shouts and screams” for openness and transparency for fear that their own shenanigans are brought under scrutiny. Dribbler calls it ‘indifference’.

    You MUST understand that Barbados is not headed up ‘shit street’ because of a bunch of low-life, (pun intended) political pimps, OR a few crooked businessmen who bribe their way to ‘success’, …BUT because as a PEOPLE, we have chosen collectively to endorse albino-centricity. We are all a bunch of scam-artists who revere the Machiavellian way, and who actually ADMIRE these high flying crooks. Most would do EXACTLY the same if roles are reversed.

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  50. Well Well & Consequences July 4, 2016 at 7:55 AM #

    As a matter of fact, if Mia does not use this in her political campaign to inform each and every household on the island of what Fruendel Adriel and all the other ministers are planning to do re citizens refusing to be fingerprinted entering their homeland, Fruendel et al would render them stateless, countryless and hanging in legal limbo while detained, particularly the elderly, most of whom have no access to the internet and who politicians take great delight in telling lies to and misleading…then we will know for sure.

    If Mia does not use this opportunity to enlighten the elecotrate and get those sewer rats out of the people’s parliament, we will know for sure that she continues to collude with them, that DBLP are one government and cannot separate themselves because of their decades of criminal activities against the country and people. .

    We shall see.

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  51. Bush Tea July 4, 2016 at 7:58 AM #

    @ balance
    LOL…
    So what is wrong with how Carson sounds? …. except that GP hates his guts…🙂
    Whereas AC is the role model of idiots….
    LOL
    ha ha ha

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  52. ac July 4, 2016 at 8:21 AM #

    So glad to be a part of a league of idiots including your “call to be” leader of BUP Caswell that you professor brass bowl has called an IDIOT when in disagreement with your views
    BTW it is time to change YOUR DEPENDS ////IDIOT and do not forget to wipe ….a …sshole

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  53. Old Baje July 4, 2016 at 11:11 AM #

    OFF TOPIC

    Bhana imported the wings and is untouchable. We are a real Banana Republic.

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  54. Donna July 4, 2016 at 11:41 AM #

    Unbelievable the contempt that this government shows for us. Unbelievable how much bungling and defeats they have survived. Unbelievable that Gollop still thinks us so stupid that his answer would suffice. Unbelievable.

    Thanks you, Mr. Commissiong for your fight on our behalf and for your pellucid submission above. Nobody is calling you Comesingalong today. Today we sing the same song!

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  55. Donna July 4, 2016 at 11:51 AM #

    Kammie, don’t worry! One day coming soon! I have been kicking against the pricks all my life (albeit on a much smaller scale) and have often felt the wrath alone. When I get my second wind I will come out into the light. You’ll be surprised when we meet again. Thank you for your work. Caswell is also a man I had a personal encounter with and he really impressed. We really do appreciate your contributions. You symbolize hope eternal. Hang on until we of lesser strength build the muscles to join you openly in the fight.

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  56. Nostradamus July 4, 2016 at 12:09 PM #

    Old Baje July 4, 2016 at 11:11 AM #
    OFF TOPIC
    Bhana imported the wings and is untouchable. We are a real Banana Republic.

    Which one?

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  57. Well Well & Consequences July 4, 2016 at 1:23 PM #

    This is what happens when you have leaders who cannot be trusted.

    Hoe could Fruendel and the other idiots in parliament believe it’s a good idea to render their citizens stateless if they do not agree to be fingerprinted leaving and entering the island. That is the quality and level of their intellect. Did yhey even think about where they would detain the people who refusd fingerprinting, where would they deport them.did they even think that far, or the international implications…can these nuisances think no futher than the next bribe.

    They should never be returned to the people’s parliament, not even in the role of
    Opposition.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/82879/anti-slavery-activists-arrested-mauritania

    The people of Barbados better watch the politicians very, very, carefully.

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  58. pieceuhderockyeahright July 4, 2016 at 2:14 PM #

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  59. balance July 4, 2016 at 3:15 PM #

    “Bush Tea July 4, 2016 at 7:58 AM #

    @ balance
    LOL…
    So what is wrong with how Carson sounds? …. except that GP hates his guts…:)
    Whereas AC is the role model of idiots….
    LOL”

    I heard growing up stupid under the Union jack that it takes an idiot to know an idiot

    Ha Ha Ha

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  60. Gabriel July 4, 2016 at 10:14 PM #

    I am happy that once again David Commissiong has shown the intestinal fortitude to challenge the mediocrity that 15 other dummies told the old guy in Pilgrim House they support Freundel for Prime Minister. I repeat,Stuart should have stuck to teaching.Even some of his close friends admit the man is a let down,a failure.Once again,Barbados is cast in a negative light with all these lawyers in parliament and an SI get a free pass.
    I remember well senator verla Depeiza frothing at the mouth,sounding like a pro in Nelson street talking about treason.The ass.But then again that is the stinking Dems Bree railed about when he was alive and kicking.The inefficiency of the public servants as detailed by the Auditor General and the inefficiency of the cabinet and parliament as seen by the stealth and sleight of hand with which this serious measure was foisted upon an unsuspecting populace gives cause to pause our future under these scoundrels and vultures over the next 18 months.
    William Skinner,tying Kensington upgrade with the replacement of pipe mains is disingenuous to say the least.It was 1988 or 1989 that your Prime Minister Sandy took away the millions of dollars held by the Waterworks managed by Nicky Sealy,intended for the replacement of those mains,and placed the money in the consolidated fund to pay for his recklessness in spending to pay senior civil servants big salary increases to win the 1992 election which he did and then the IMF had to come to his rescue resulting in the notorious 8% pay cut.DLP=JA’s of the highest order.Always will.Barrow was the DLP.Barrow gone,DLP like a ship without a rudder,attracting barnacles and pirates like lowdown and dem.

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  61. Well Well & Consequences July 5, 2016 at 5:48 AM #

    Eyes will now have to stay peeled to monitor vote buying, the recording and video devices will have to be used by the people, to make sure government ministers and other politicians are kept in check.

    Any politician, yardfowls or pimps try buying votes, video and voice record it and post it online so that the police can make their arrests, post the proof online where it cannot disappear or be tampered with, the police will have no choice but to do their jobs ….Vote buying is a crime and ya can have them arrested…..get your devices ready, don’t let them reduce you to a bribetaker so that they themselves can be elevated to a status to take million dollar bribes…enough is enough.

    That is the best revenge.

    Piece…I am counting on you to get that poster ready to show the people on the islabd how to video and voice record politicians, yardfowls or political pimps trying to buy votes from the people they ignore after being elected to win an election, show the people how to lock up the vote buyers using their smartphone cameras and audio…you the man for that job.

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  62. Well Well & Consequences July 5, 2016 at 6:50 AM #

    Piece…ya got a year and a half to show voters how to perfect taking a video and voice recording and post directly to the internet of politicians, their yardfowls and pimps, as well as the community drug dealers they hire…to bribe poor and needy citizens who cannot pay their rents, water and light bills, for votes.

    Let them fingerprint that… vie faible sale méchant qu’ils sont.

    ACs..yall pimps, how ya like that one.😂

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  63. Well Well & Consequences July 5, 2016 at 6:55 AM #

    How ya like that “stoopid” poster.

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  64. pieceuhderockyeahright July 5, 2016 at 8:11 PM #

    Ammmmmmmm….let de ole man make a new submission on this comedy of Errors that spans Mia Mottley, Dale Smiley Teets Marshall, Fumbles Stuart and Adriel Nitwit Brathwit

    I know dat somebody in de Immigration Office gine get fire but ….

    “Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act will come up for reauthorization in 2017.

    The Section 702 program targets non-U.S. persons reasonably believed to be located outside the United States, in order to acquire foreign intelligence.

    Over the past several years, this surveillance of the online activities of foreigners has been an invaluable source of information for American intelligence professionals and officials.”

    Non compliance with this regulation is going to mean severe penalties for those peoples dat is gine to the USofA.

    Non Compliance in the face of Humpty Dumpty and Stac*** and de rest uh dem “get rich crew” falsifying identities and selling to foreigners AND DE UNITED STATES GUVMENT know who doing de falsification is not helping de GoB.

    Couple this with the proposal to modernize the police Department fingerprinting procedures and regulations and a System for a Certificate of Character that takes 4 weeks to obtain and well, you got yourself a serious Immigration Entry problem brewing for we Bajans who “are not known” to the United States government.

    So, while I am the first to congratulate David per this representation on behalf of the people of barbados I say to you that (a) the incompetence and short sightedness of the previous administration, particularly the short sightedness of Mia, aided and abetted by the Dufus who stated that the dogs were looking of “living specimens” has put this cuntry where we are from 2005 when this shy*e started officially, until 2016.

    WHERE THERE IS NO VISION THE PEOPLE PERISH!!!

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  65. pieceuhderockyeahright July 5, 2016 at 9:38 PM #

    Just so that you can understand the complexity of the problem and what successive governments from 2002, both local and regional and international seem to have had difficulty with I will give you this information

    “—name, address, date of birth, place of birth, height, weight, sex, country of citizenship, alien or admission number” which forms part of the Entry and Departure form we fill out for travel to the USA?

    “—name, date of birth, place of birth, height, weight, sex, race, country of citizenship, alien or admission number” and type of weapon, forms part of the Database against which weapons checks are effected.

    Other National Security databases see other information

    As you look at the data structure you should start to realise that, barring sex and race? all of the others can be “changed” (in fact with the Kete Jenner operation recently, anything can play there.) and that is what is creating this bad PR exercise by the DLP.

    Let me show how it has been working out in practice.

    Humpty Dumpty helps to falsify information in a Bajan Passport so you can see why, even in normal circumstances, the advent of Section 702 program, necessitates the introduction of the fingerprinting procedure IF ONE IS TO HAVE GREATER CONFIDENCE IN THE DATA being queried.

    Insufficiency of data is what the USA is dealing with and what the Bajan law, poorly introduced, is seeking to address

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  66. Well Well & Consequences July 6, 2016 at 9:51 AM #

    And your too smart for their own good government ministers compounded the problem by sneaking around trying to circumvent the constitution by gazetting a ” mistake”….only Hal Gollop believes that one…lol…they did however succeed in alienating the citizens instead of turning them into unwanted aliens…which is a good thing.

    Oh well, there is always retinal scans or facial recognition scans…without trying to bypass the constitution.

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  67. Alvin Cummins July 6, 2016 at 8:59 PM #

    Well Well,
    As far as I know Sydney Burnett Alleyne, is a Barbadian Born, and thus a citizen, who should have a right to entry to his own country. As far as I know he is still persona non grata, “exiled” by A previous Prime Minister, over suggested malfeasance; even though he was not arrested and charged in a Barbados court. As far as I know he has not been allowed to return.

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  68. Alvin Cummins July 6, 2016 at 9:01 PM #

    David,
    “”arrivals to GAIA have to wait and unusually long time for baggage and to clear customs.”
    How long constitutes an”unusually long time”?

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  69. Alvin Cummins July 6, 2016 at 9:12 PM #

    Well Well and David,
    Further to David C’s contribution from which the following is cut and pasted, and further to the case of Mr Alleyne, referred to:
    …”the statutory and Constitutional right of Citizens of Barbados to ENTER Barbados (their native land) is absolute and unfettered, and cannot be restricted under any circumstances whatsoever”… It would seem therefore that when Tom Adams barred Mr/ Alleyne from entry into Barbados: despite the assertion that he was a threat to the National Security of Barbados, there could have a suit that he was denied his constitutional rights. But then no one DARED challenge Mr. Adams. Why?.

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  70. Well Well & Consequences July 7, 2016 at 5:48 AM #

    Alvin…in Burnett – Alleyne’s case and in those times the UK accepted Alleyne….do you understand that if a citizen is put in the illegal position of being in limbo….no country can be forced to accept them if their own country is refusing to give them entry….do you know it will violate those citizens rights under all type of international treaties…in these times..this is not the 1960’s or 7s.

    And besides…the other government never rescinded Adam’s order re Alleyne either, so what does that say about them…they are no different to the Adams government either…read the example below…cause I always have to point out the obvious to you.

    Under the same Tom Adams government a Trinidadian was deported because he slapped one of the then Chief Justice’s nephews, do some research and find out who the chirf justice was back then,, he had 2 nephews, both customs officers…both clearing drugs through the ports of entry…in the 70s…

    Adams promptly deported the Trini dude for slapping one of the chief justice’s nephew and despite it being over 37 years later, the dude still has not been able to return to the island, despite requesting entry while both governments ruled…if ya want to call it that…both governments do the same nasty things…2 sides of the same coin, so don’t come on here with ya yardfowl crap trying to convince me of anything,

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  71. Well Well & Consequences July 7, 2016 at 5:57 AM #

    And besides Adams with his paranoid self was just as crazy as Burnett-Alleyne and now over 40 years later, appears to have been lying about the whole incident which appears to have been a setup.

    Just like Fruendel lied to the people about the true nature if his nasty plans to render bajans who refuse his dictatorial, criminal plans against them.

    Alvin…you know your days of being a yardfowl in waiting are swiftly aproaching, you know no one wants ya masters back in the parliament as ministers ever again, except for yardfowls like yaself and the pimps ACs…ya know the scam is over soon.

    You know that since the 70s…there are constitutional laws in place to prevent governments from violating the rights of citizens right…or you dont mind if Canada takes away your citizenship just for the fun of it and pack your ass back to Barbados….Alvin.

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