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Anti-teacher Sentiment on the Rise Linked to an Ineffective Political Class

Submitted by William Skinner

Ever since the late 60s the political managerial class has made the teaching profession, the scapegoat for most of the negative trends in the society. This lambasting of the profession reached its zenith in the mid-seventies and continued. What we are witnessing at present are the results of the beatings that the teachers have endured at the hands of both the Barbados and Democratic Labour Parties.

The political managerial class has been successful in breeding the anti-teacher sentiment that is now evident. The students who are at present engaged in deviant behavior on the school plants are the children and grand children of those, who witnessed the assault on the profession. In other words, their parents and grandparents, who perhaps escaped serious scrutiny of their deviance, would have graduated from the school system believing that teachers are to be disrespected and maligned. They then passed on this assessment to their children and grand children.

There is clear evidence that the system is collapsing under the weight of ineffective measures of discipline, an elitist gas chamber called the eleven plus exam and a level of political corruption, which has basically chased professional public servants out of the ministry and replaced them with party hacks, who in some cases ironically, were once members of the profession.

The reason that the political managerial class is so silent on the now daily emerging problems in the schools is a very profound admission that it has benefitted tremendously from the decadence that it has nurtured. In terms of pure sophisticated yardfowlism, there are very few ministries that can surpass what occurs in the Ministry of Education under both the Barbados Labour Party and the Democratic Labour Party.

Unless the emerging crisis is brought under control, we would all pay a very great price for allowing the political managerial class to destroy the teaching profession.

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62 Comments on “Anti-teacher Sentiment on the Rise Linked to an Ineffective Political Class”

  1. ac May 5, 2016 at 6:21 AM #

    this is the most slanted political propaganda i have read on BU..

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  2. William Skinner May 5, 2016 at 6:39 AM #

    @ac
    Please describe the “propaganda” in the piece. Thanks.

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  3. Alvin Cummins May 5, 2016 at 7:17 AM #

    William Skinner;
    kindly define;specifically, this so called “political…managerial…class..”
    There has always been, and always be conflicts between those who challenge, object to, and refuse to adhere to any form of discipline. Children, especially those whose hormones drive their psyche, determine that there is necessity to object to authority, and who sometimes carry their abhorrence into adulthood. the problem comes when there is a need to rein in this different attitude.
    People have a penchant for taking these attitudes and using them to direct barbs at their opponents.

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  4. Gabriel May 5, 2016 at 7:47 AM #

    Was it not George Herbert,the Welsh Anglican priest who observed “One father is more than one hundred schoolmasters”?Add to that view, the negative elements brought about by crop over events,the advent of the wukkup culture,add the negative element of the reggae events and the advent of the ganja culture(witness how many boat loads of marijuana are being seized by the police in the last few weeks which coincide with the reggae events currently on the calendar)add these to the observation of William Skinner and we have real problems in the school system.No wonder teachers are now targets for their charges.School is a veritable battleground and the politicitisation of education when added to the mix do not augur well for the future.
    I seem to recall a poll done in ’07 or ’08 by Peter Wickham on popular leadership among 4 political candidates.No 1 had an approval rating of 51%, no 2 was rated at 29%, no 3 was rated 27% and no 4 came in at 7%.I leave you to work out who is no 4.How prophetic!

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  5. David May 5, 2016 at 8:04 AM #

    We continue to see the ‘script ‘ being followed by the several actors. Barbados will have to pay a heavy price for this nonsense. A generation is watching.

    Senator Harry Husbands, a former head of the BBC, was heard to say in the Upper House, as far as he is aware there is not dispute between the MoE and Unions.

    Carry on smartly then.

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  6. ac May 5, 2016 at 8:05 AM #

    There is no balance in the article but the usual generalization of pointing blame in one direction. As far as i know and can attest i was educated in the public school system yes there were teachers and student conflicts which in most cases were resolved at the principals office absent of media and unions input
    What has now occured and in all aspect are improtu voices in cullsion with political interference mostly lead by political operatives in the media that have brought along a tagging of division.
    The Unions the one sole voice upon which teachers students and parents are relying for sound reasoning has become beligerant resulting with a perceived negative image or perception of the teaching profession
    In more than one ways the media role is as important in effecting conciliatory tones as it is in setting political agendas where negative tones by politicians and public are aired along with the union insistence of setting agendas for their employers
    Hence the article does not give a full account of the undertows and agendas that have fueled the negative image of teachers which when brought to daylight is a combination of Unions input and media role in fueling the fires against teachers pitting teachers against parents govts students and society in general

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  7. William Skinner May 5, 2016 at 8:07 AM #

    @ Alvin Cummins,
    The political managerial class is represented by all those in political authority and those who benefit , usually at the higher echelons or connections by association to the political authority. In brief they can be found in all areas private and public. This description/definition is obviously open to discussion and I am not an authority- just my position

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  8. David May 5, 2016 at 8:09 AM #

    All the parts of the infrastructure that has stood us proud is being dismantled bit by bit.

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  9. Victor May 5, 2016 at 8:21 AM #

    I have lot of friends who are from tiny tots to older children at primary school and they all LOVE school and mostly idolise and revere their teachers. Rude attitudes and accusations of being “disrespected” by teachers (WHAT?!) seem to come later, during adolescence. You cannot blame the teaching profession for teenagers’ bad attitudes at school.

    It wrong to expect teachers to take upon themselves the entire responsibility of bringing up one’s child. That’s a parent’s job.

    A teacher’s role is simply to educate a child and teachers have a right to expect and demand obedience in a school environment. That includes behaviour in the playground. When at school, there are rules which have to be obeyed without question; these tend to be the rules enshrined by legislation in the wider environment.

    Older shoolchildren have seen their wider world hugely expanded as a result of access to media, mostly via access to their phones. They imagine they have the same rights as adults. But they don’t have these same rights until, as adults, they begin to earn a living and pay tax as fully-functioning grown ups.

    ALL teachers are not blameless but those who should be weeded out are not the problem of schoolchildren or indeed their parents, but the voting public and the Ministry of Education.

    If parents are unhappy with certain teachers, there are channels to follow. The press is only too happy to jump on that bandwagon! It’s one of the few area in the politics of Barbados where there is real clarity.

    So unlike other areas of legislation in Barbados where people cannot bother to protest, Education is one area with an enthusiastic and vocal group of voters because most people are personally involved.

    The way voters react to situations such as a child refusing to pick up litter when asked to do so by a teacher, really reflects the attitudes of the Bajan public in general.

    Voters don’t respect authority, or the rule of law and only care about their own. This is clearly reflected in voting patterns and explains why there is no democratic progress here. Little changes as result of an election apart from a new set of MPs lining their pockets and looking after the welfare of their own constituencies regardless of the bigger picture.

    Teachers, unlike many civil servants, have a clearly-defined role which is to get kids through school with the best possible results.

    If a parent is unable to persuade a child to behave, it is not the problem of the education system. There are rules at school and all children should obey them. What they choose to do after school is not a teacher’s problem.

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  10. Well Well & Consequences May 5, 2016 at 8:34 AM #

    AC & Alvin…in other words, the politicians spent too much of the time they should have been improving the society, creating jobs instead of waiting for tax evaders to produce a few while overtaxing the local population to make up the shortfalls, creating insipid, nonfunctioning yardfowls in every sector of the public service, and within the population as a whole ignoring productivity, manufacturing, agriculture…every sphere of positive progress that would have avoided the present day problems, the politicians of DBLP ignored for over 30 years, even when advised by scholars both local and foreign…3 decades, so yes apart from the bad teachers in the schools who can share the blame for much of the bad behaviors displayed by students, yes the politicians can take fulll blame for the degraded status of the society.

    It’s called reality, no yardfowl rhetoric can change that…none.

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  11. Violet C Beckles May 5, 2016 at 8:50 AM #

    The students behave like the Ministers, there is not leadership, How can crooks lead? The DBLP Lead to more down grades of all things leading to F for Failing Economy , F for Fraud,
    more pain to come RIOTS in 1937 NEXT BY 2017.

    Grow your own food and catch rain or well water, Venezuela is on its way , at least we can wash our BOX-SEA in the ocean when we run out of paper.

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  12. FearPlay May 5, 2016 at 10:05 AM #

    Three days ago I requested that my 12 year old daughter carry out a minor task. After taking inordinately long to get underway, there was also the controlled exhaling of breath signifying in my opinion, passive resistance to carry out a simple instruction. To put it mildly, I hauled her (?) over the coals, raised my voice and upgraded my requested to that of a demand! I felt the need to impose a level of discipline within the household so that a little resistance to authority today would hopefully not escalate into outright anarchy to those tasked with issuing reasonable instructions to her tomorrow.

    Just stop and think about it for a moment. Can you imagine a teacher being tested to the limit of their authority by classes of 30 or 40 children every day for an entire term? The only recourse they have to deal with some of the disgusting, indisciplined, own way, unmannerly and aggressive youth in class is to “reason” with them! How many of us would be willing to reason with our own children repeatedly throughout the day, day after day in order to have them cooperate with us over minor matters? When you instruct your child to “go tidy your room”, are you willing to tolerate dissent, disobedience, and even harsh words in challenge to your authority? I think not, yet we send our ill-manners children to school and expect a teacher to put up with that kind of behavior. To those of you who support this new freedom of expression I say train your dog before you let it out in public.

    Somebody has to lead and somebody has to follow and the day we allow the inmates to run the asylum is the day that Barbados become BarBedlam!

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  13. Bustopher Jones May 5, 2016 at 10:11 AM #

    Do politicians really create yardfowls. Or are they natural extensions of the political party?

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  14. Well Well & Consequences May 5, 2016 at 10:28 AM #

    Bustopher…politicians need empty headed followers who cannot think critically or reason or question their actions, follow blindly and make themselves look stupid at all times…read AC and Alvin, so yes, politicians create, mold and shape yardfowls into the idiots and pimps they can control and set loose on weak people.

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  15. Donna May 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM #

    I do not think that there is any widespread anti-teacher sentiment among parents in this country. I believe the problem has arisen because of the bad teachers who are allowed to remain after numerous complaints from students and parents are ignored. When parents take the regular channels NOTHING is the outcome. The bad teachers then tend to increase their victimization of the children involved. If the minority bad teachers were either reprimanded, controlled or removed this problem would go away. Of course there will still be delinquent children who will have to be dealt with but then the teachers would have our unquestioned support as we would be convinced of their professionalism.

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  16. Alvin Cummins May 5, 2016 at 10:55 AM #

    I thought the problem was with Jeff Broomes at Alexandra. It extended when he was transferred to Parkinson. It has still continued and gotten even worse, so He was not the problem. It has extended from the Principle to the teachers vs. students. Common factor the Unions and their leaders. QED.

    Well Well,
    I have no dealings with the politicians. Your designation of me as a yarifowl. has no bearing on my independent thinking..even though it may coincide with the ideas of a particular person or party. Great minds think alike! But fools seldom differ. Your move.

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  17. Donna May 5, 2016 at 11:17 AM #

    The unions are just a part of the problem. There is culpability all round.

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  18. chad99999 May 5, 2016 at 12:02 PM #

    Lots of vague arm waving today from people like Donna, who complains about “bad” teachers. Are these teachers “bad” because they (a) can’t get students through the CXC exams (b) are boring in the classroom, (c) are hard to understand, (d) are rude and threatening to the students, (e) are sexually deviant, etc. etc?? Please explain!

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  19. Georgie Porgie May 5, 2016 at 12:27 PM #

    re FearPlay May 5, 2016 at 10:05 AM #
    sound doctrine that can not be refuted

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  20. Georgie Porgie May 5, 2016 at 12:47 PM #

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/80872/cuban-trained-medics-treated-unfairly

    THIS MORE IGNORANCE
    WHY SHOULD THE POLITICIANS NOW DECIDE WHO SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PRACTICE MEDICINE IN BARBADOS INSTEAD OF THE MEDICAL COUNCIL?

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  21. Well Well & Consequences May 5, 2016 at 12:49 PM #

    Alvin…there are no great minds in either political party, particulaly the party to which you claim membership, so am I missing something…cause I could swear, if there were any great minds in the current government, the island would not have so many problems thst seem, to the ministers, unsolvable.

    You dont want to play chess with me, I play chess like I speak french.

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  22. David May 5, 2016 at 12:52 PM #

    What has always differentiated the teacher in Barbados, possibly other countries, is the ‘extra ‘ teachers have historically given to the job. We are at a dangerous point in the debate.

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  23. David May 5, 2016 at 12:54 PM #

    @GP

    Is it the politicians or the Medical Council.

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  24. Well Well & Consequences May 5, 2016 at 12:57 PM #

    GP…it compounds what I just told Alvin and speaks to the ignorance of the current ministers of government, who should never been selected as leaders to begin with…..as you would know Cuba has made such great strides in medicine, despites decades of US embargos, that now, US companies are vigorously pursuing Cuban trained doctors for their ability to initiate amazing breakthroughs in medicine.

    And here is Alvin telling me about great minds, where are these great minds and who has them, certainly not DBLP ministers or politicians or they would never discriminate against Cuban trained doctors who are also Bajan citizens… the ministers are certainly certified jackasses for leaders.

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  25. Well Well & Consequences May 5, 2016 at 1:00 PM #

    Dont the ministers have the authority to veto the idiocy of the Medical Council, who could be just as small minded and petty, the Cuban medical graduates are Bajans, not Cubans.

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  26. ac May 5, 2016 at 1:03 PM #

    The teachers role is still a functional part of the student overal well being despite some of the internal problems.teachers have always step up to the tasks as being role models and guidance counselors for our nations children.The unfortuante happenings resulting from teacher student conflict can not be blamed solely at the feet of the teacher or student but a society who seeks quick resolutions for complex issues
    The fact being that such incidences are rare and cannot be define an entire education system in disarray and which for the most part has shown more sucess than failure

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  27. Georgie Porgie May 5, 2016 at 1:13 PM #

    David May 5, 2016 at 12:54 PM #
    @GP
    Is it the politicians or the Medical Council.

    the MEDICAL COUNCIL DECIDES WHO SHOULD BE REGISTERED
    BUT IT SEEMS THE POLITICIANS WANT TO HAVE THAT RIGHT

    THE MEDICAL COUNCIL IN EACH STATE IN THE USA DECIDES WHO CAN REGISTER IN THAT STATE

    WW
    the ministers DO NOT have the authority to veto the Medical Council, ARE YOU SERIOUS

    tO PRACTICE IN THE USA YOU HAVE TO PASS THE USMLE AND DO RESEDENCY,
    IN SOME STATES THEY DONT ACCEPT PERSONS WHO ATTENDED CERTAIN SCHOOLS EVEN IF THEY HAVE DONE THE ABOVE

    WHY SHOULD OR MEDICAL COUNCIL NOT DETERMINE WHO SHOULD PRACTICE IN BIM?

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  28. Colonel Buggy May 5, 2016 at 1:13 PM #

    Now we understand why Hitler was so powerful,because the hacks surrounding him blindly supported him in everything he did. Not a single one of them , was able or had the guts to stand up to him , and say ‘Fuehrer irren Sie Sich!” ,Boss you are wrong. The very same thing that is today happening all around the presidential hopeful Donald Trump.

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  29. Well Well & Consequences May 5, 2016 at 1:31 PM #

    So GP….the only question left to ask is, why dont the medical council want medical graduates of Cuban medical schools, practicing medicine in Barbados, unless there are no slots for them, eg small hospital, 2 smaller private hospitals, small island…..again I reiterate, these medical graduates are bajans.

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  30. Georgie Porgie May 5, 2016 at 2:10 PM #

    I DO NOT KNOW why dont the medical council DO NOT want medical graduates of Cuban medical schools

    BEING A BAJAN DR DOES NOT QUALIFY YOU TO WORK IN BARBADOS JUST AS BEING A CALIFORNIAN DR QUALIFY YOU TO WORK IN CALIFORNIA

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  31. Donna May 5, 2016 at 2:41 PM #

    Chad,

    I am not personally aware of any sexual infractions by teachers but I am aware of many whose behavior towards the children is unbearably rude, discriminatory and unfair. How about a child who asked to go to the bathroom to address feminine issues being denied permission. The child walked out of class to attend to the issue and when she returned she was put out of the class FOREVER. This is only one of the cases of which I am aware where teachers behave like maniacs and deny a particular child access to education. Another boy was put out of class because the teacher thought his accent was annoying. At least he was let back in. Some children are put out of class repeatedly for doing things they never did and while the child who does it laughs and stays inside. This happens, the child does not get to complete work, loses marks and gets a bad report. The teachers just do not listen.

    This is mainly what I mean when I say bad teachers apart from poor, one dimensional teaching which may be easily corrected this is my main concern.

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  32. Donna May 5, 2016 at 3:37 PM #

    Chad,

    Sorry I had to run off. Also there are many teachers who are regularly absent. Children often spend half of the day without work. They do not give homework assignments. I know one who spends his time on his tablet and cell phone and by the canteen during class time. Many of them are a no show for year level meetings. They do not return telephone calls and the only feedback you can get from them is when the report comes home with bad marks and unfair comments that totally puzzle the child. They do not answer any questions if you happen to catch them in the staff room. They do not listen or investigate your concerns about the reports to see if perhaps a mistake has been made. (Quite possible since they often don’t even know the children’s names.) They just dismiss you as one of those foolish parents and treat you with scant respect.

    That Chad is what I mean by bad teachers. The bane of every good parent and the nightmare for some good children who are trying hard to succeed.

    That is why Chad when my son comes home I will have to start our regular home school session. And that is why none of you can shut me up.

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  33. Georgie Porgie May 5, 2016 at 3:54 PM #

    wow! I did not realize that things are so bad!
    This certainly did not happen in my days at school from 56-70 whether at primary or secondary school

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  34. Donna May 5, 2016 at 4:00 PM #

    GP,

    The problems are not that bad at most primary schools. It is the secondary schools that are the problem.

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  35. Well Well & Consequences May 5, 2016 at 5:10 PM #

    GP…this issue about not accepting Cuban trained doctors did not start yesterday and they are the only ones being refused, that’s discrimination. California does not refuse to register only California trained doctors.

    That same council is regstering one or two other doctors from the other islandss that are down right beasts, with no ethics or morals and they should not be practicing medicine in Barbados, but they are anyway. …something is wrong on the island.

    You are paying to have your drivers license renewed but because they refuse to fix the machines issuing the cards the police are not honoring the recepits from licensing authority and ya can be charged with a traffic offense…..the country is in tatters.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/80879/licence-snag

    There is now an update online that they are printing license cards again today, after weeks in some places and months in another, it had to be highlighted in the newspapers before they got off their backsides and did something.

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  36. Well Well & Consequences May 5, 2016 at 5:17 PM #

    I dont like the old adage in Barbados that the teachers are always right, those were in the days where teachers earned respect of students and parents and respected everyone….too many teachers themselves are very disrespectful of students, parents, their profession, their environment and need to be thrown out of the schools.

    It’s been ann ongoing problem ignored by both ministry officials and teachers union, they need to be monitored going forward to minimize their nasty attitudes….some of them.

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  37. Hants May 5, 2016 at 5:26 PM #

    “More than 200 taxi drivers, who are mostly from the Toronto-area, were found to be doctors in their homelands before arriving in Canada for a better life, according to a federal immigration survey.”

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  38. Gabriel May 5, 2016 at 5:53 PM #

    I have heard from two heads of Primary schools which suggests they too have some serious behavioural problems at that level and the two comprise old school,60’s 70’s,and new school ’06.
    Some points to ponder…..revert to separate the sexes at Primary and Secondary…..make the profession sufficiently attractive to encourage more males in male schools…..bring back the church in the life of the schools.

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  39. Well Well & Consequences May 5, 2016 at 6:01 PM #

    Hants….if you are the best specialist in the world, lawyer, doctor whatever and you immigrate from UK, US, Caribbean, anywhere in the world to Canada, you have to requalify, go back to school to become a lawyer, doctor again.

    I have a friend left the UK 10 years ago, a lawyer and is still trying to finish school to requalify, cant move back because he put down roots, transferred money and have small children.

    These countries have turned themselves into traps…people beware.

    The US is even worse, many top notch doctors and lawyers from middle east, India etc are stuck in menial jobs or have to go work for scum like Donald Trump who dont want to pay immigrants decent wsges, circumvent tax laws or refuse to hire Americans because he prefers enrich himself and not pay what union laws require in wages.

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  40. Georgie Porgie May 5, 2016 at 6:39 PM #

    re California does not refuse to register only California trained doctors.

    California HAS A LIST OF SCHOOLS THAT IF YOU HAVE ATTENDED THEM YOU CAN NOT PRACTICE THERE
    BEEN READING THIS FOR LAST 14 YEARS ON VALUEMD
    CALIFORNIA IS THE STRICTEST STATE FOR REGISTERING DOCTORS
    A NUMBER OF STATES ALSO FOLLOW THE CALIFORNIA LIST

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  41. Well Well & Consequences May 5, 2016 at 6:48 PM #

    GP….I suspect that might have something to do with accreditation re California medical schools, it’s now hitting every profession that’s worthwhike….accreditation, the relatively new buzzword.

    But if Cuban trained doctors are good enough to practice in the US and around the world, sought after for their unique skillls, why is Barbados the exception…

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  42. Crusoe May 5, 2016 at 7:19 PM #

    I know the debate has gone past schools, but back to the original post.

    As Donna said, the blame is joint and several.

    Reality is that the teaching profession also carries some of the blame. Donna also notes another aspect, that some teachers are in absentia, without an adequate backup teacher.

    In fact, some teachers are not adequate themselves. I have heard of some of the schools, some teachers do not turn up for class. Some teachers are not performing, yet cannot be moved even after complaints to the officials, and that is at CAPE.

    There are many excellent teachers, but bad eggs are causing strife.

    Where is the accountability? The Ministry must bear some of the blame for not shifting poor performing teachers, or is that both the unions and the Ministry?

    I also agree that indiscipline on the part of students is a problem. But then, that too goes to management (apart from parents), because once they step through the doors, the premises are the Ministry premises and the teachers are de facto guardians with all the responsibility that such entails (hence why any inference of infelicities is concerning).

    Another aspect to consider is that those students who obtain Scholarships etc all undergo lessons, even students at CXC must get lessons to succeed, why is that? They do not learn the required work to a required standard in the schools.

    Res ipsa loquitor.

    The whole system needs dealing with, that is the reality.

    May I draw a parallel between the Barbados education system and the West Indies cricket team?

    Bad management and underperformance.

    And the blame is joint and several.

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  43. Hants May 5, 2016 at 7:25 PM #

    If Bajans are being trained as Medical Doctors in Cuba surely they must have been told that they could practice in Barbados after they graduated.

    They are Bajans and should be given an opportunity to qualify after graduating from medical school in Cuba as long as there is proof that they are on par with UWI graduates.

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  44. David May 5, 2016 at 7:41 PM #

    @Hants

    The debate whether Cuban trained doctors, and BU include dentists) is an old one across the region. Some islands allow and others do not.

    http://www.stabroeknews.com/2011/news/breaking/07/08/Bajan-doctors-group-says-cuban-medical-training-not-up-to-scratch/

    http://www.stabroeknews.com/2011/news/breaking/07/08/Bajan-doctors-group-says-cuban-medical-training-not-up-to-scratch/

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  45. Georgie Porgie May 5, 2016 at 7:58 PM #

    re Cuban trained doctors are good enough to practice in the US WHERE? WHEN? HOW?
    Have they done USMLE and residency?

    RE That same council is regIstering one or two other doctors from the other islands FROM WHICH SCHOOLS? Have they done USMLE and residency? DOUBT THAT VERY MUCH

    Hants May 5, 2016 at 7:25 PM #
    If Bajans are being trained as Medical Doctors in Cuba surely they must have been told that they could practice in Barbados after they graduated. THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD SO

    They are Bajans and should be given an opportunity to qualify after graduating from medical school in Cuba as long as there is proof that they are on par with UWI graduates. BUT ARE THEY?

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  46. Hants May 5, 2016 at 8:24 PM #

    @Georgie Porgie,

    I HOPE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BAJANS WHO STUDIED IN CUBA.

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  47. Georgie Porgie May 5, 2016 at 8:51 PM #

    YES HANTS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING
    1- STUDENTS SHOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD BEFORE WHETHER THEY COULD PRACTICE IN BIM AFTER STUDYING IN CUBA
    2 THE COUNCIL HAS DETERMINED THAT THE TRAINING IN CUBA IS SUBSTANDARD

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  48. Gabriel May 5, 2016 at 9:00 PM #

    GP
    I recall Barbadian dental surgeons trained at UWI in Trinidad could not practise in Barbados.I don’t know if the anomaly has been corrected but it did exist and there was a similar Dental body which determined qualification and membership.I think I read also some changes were made to the rules of the Medical Council and which originated with the cabinet mandating medical doctors must be current in the practice and those of a certain age who did not want to continue could opt to retire.

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  49. David May 5, 2016 at 10:15 PM #

    @Gabriel

    The T&T trained doctors have to pass a Barbados exam to practice here.

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  50. Colonel Buggy May 5, 2016 at 11:03 PM #

    Ronald Jones has recently announced that another 2 or 3 Medical Schools are waiting in the wings to set up business here. Are graduates of the existing medical school will be allowed to practice in Barbados, without any further qualifying exams?

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  51. ac May 6, 2016 at 6:09 AM #

    awaiting the response from the BUT to refute govt statement showing evidence of the numerous meetings held between the union and MOE in regards to the same issues that the union now states are the burning concerns ..In what now has become a political tinder box fueled by clandestine political opportunist

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  52. Gabriel May 6, 2016 at 9:16 AM #

    AC
    Caswell has opened a new can of worms…….

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  53. Observing May 6, 2016 at 10:41 AM #

    @ac
    One cannot refute the irrefutable.

    Just observing

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  54. Georgie Porgie May 6, 2016 at 11:36 AM #

    The T&T trained doctors at UWI DO NOT have to pass a Barbados exam to practice here.

    re Colonel Buggy May 5, 2016 at 11:03 PM #
    Ronald Jones has recently announced that another 2 or 3 Medical Schools are waiting in the wings to set up business here. Are graduates of the existing medical school will be allowed to practice in Barbados, without any further qualifying exams?

    NO NOR DO THEY WANT TO

    STUDENTS WHO ATTEND OFFSHORE MEDICAL SCHOOLS USUALLY HAVE AS THEIR GOAL TO QUALIFY TO WORK IN THE US

    US TRAINED DRS CAN NOT PRACTICE IN BIM UNLESS THEY DO A RESIDENCY AND BECOME BOARD CERTIFIED AS THEY MUST TO WORK IN THE USA

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  55. ac May 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM #

    The downside for BUT coming from this information yesterday by the govt is thst it openly shows a lack of credibility and very good reason to doubt any of what the Unions has presented in the public arena as a “lack of disrespect” shown towards them from the MOE

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  56. Well Well & Consequences May 6, 2016 at 5:07 PM #

    http://ow.ly/hy8930001UZ

    Check that out.

    Hants … pas si bon ceux Fort McMurray incendies et le dollar est en baisse comme une roche.

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  57. Tell me Why May 6, 2016 at 5:39 PM #

    Donna. I read your input about teachers. You mentioned a child being denied from using the bathroom. You said she was put out of class forever. You mentioned a boy put out of class because of his accent. You went further on to state that teachers refuse to give homework and also the teacher who is always on his tablet and cell phone. Now I have one simple question to ask you. Are you a teacher or Principal or janitor? Or maybe, you are a damn liar trying to destroy the teaching profession. Now give me some positives about teachers….like children becoming scholarship winners, gaining endless certificates and cannot get a simple job. Advancing in the work environment due to molding from the same teachers you trying to destroy

    It was mentioned by a parent who when to his son’s school and someone got up and asked with children n attendance “Would you allow your child or ward to be discipline through flogging and endless parents jump up and say “NO”. Now suppose a headteacher had to discipline a child. That same child will say my mother say you can’t hit me.

    That is the fundamental problem. Indiscipline from the home now extend to the school. The adults, the ministry and the idiots now directing the way children should behave. The poor teacher now must contend with over 20 unmannerly children caused by parents who cannot control one child.

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  58. David May 6, 2016 at 6:33 PM #

    Is bus fare still free for students?

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  59. Well Well & Consequences May 7, 2016 at 8:28 AM #

    Lol…good one, where do they find the 2 bucks to pay the yellow buses, which means they can pay 1 dollar on the taxpayer funded blue buses….it will help the economy, but no…the politicians are insisting that they will breed and raise yardfowls for voting purposes, without a care about the economy….so “free” bus fares for students, at taxpayers expense.

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  60. Donna May 11, 2016 at 8:12 AM #

    I can understand you thinking that I am a liar. Believe me if my son wasn’t part of the class where these things happened and if I did not know ALL of the parties involved I would think I was a liar too. I have heard the exact same stories from other parents of children in the same class. There are many positives to be said about teachers. My son has more good ones than bad and his form teacher is a rose. The majority are ok but the bad ones are being allowed to remain in the system.

    By the way, the scholarship winners usually have extra LESSONS AFTER SCHOOL. You playing you en know?

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  61. Donna May 11, 2016 at 8:13 AM #

    By the way, my son never even had a detention so he is not one of the problems of whom you speak.

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  62. Bush Tea May 11, 2016 at 8:40 AM #

    Tell me Why has a bigger point…
    Children are NEVER ‘the problem’….especially those under 14.
    It is ALWAYS the parents …or a few stupid teachers who need to be expunged from the system.

    Unfortunately, we would have to start at the top …with Froon and Jones…. so we may be stuck with the few bad apples….. who WILL surely spoil it for the whole bunch.

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