Immigration

Influx of ‘foreigners’ Changing the Region

sexworkersThe following is an extract from a Yahoo T&T Group Forum BU is a member. It details a commentary on the rise across the Caribbean. In fact, a flavour of the commentary is playing out in the EU exacerbated by the refugee crisis. The old question is one the regionalist – and the ideologues – cannot ignore, the commitment by sovereigns to managing borders and ensuring quality of life for ‘locals’ by unbridled entry of people whether from the region or outside. It is unfortunate the most endowed economies in Caricom for example are responsible for exporting the most people to the other islands. Of concern is that many of the emigrants are unskilled and operate in the ‘exotic industry’. The Chinese have been effective in tagging Chinese labour to concessionary loans to beggar governments, the result, a growing local Chinese population.

Ordinarily people of the region should feel confident in the political leadership to guide our open societies through an uncertain period. It appears to BU we are currently being washed along in a current to nowhere. Those of us who express concern at the state of affairs are labelled as being xenophobic and jingoistic. Have we found those Nigerians who vanished a few years ago?

Apparently, only the Ministry of National Security and maybe some in government are not aware of the massive influx of Venezuelans and people of other nationalities into T&T (see Inshan’s FB post & Robin Montano’s blog post below). We all know of the Chinese invasion that continues unabated, with people who cannot speak English  and with apparently no resources, who land here today and tomorrow they are up and running businesses, with their work permit, nationalization papers, and staff. CASH is king so they want Cash, no credit card and lynx etc, except in rare cases. Why? you really don’t know why? And, if not collecting taxes, VAT etc from them are not enough, there is tremendous leakage of forex for remittances to their families etc. All this cannot happen unless some in authority are on the take.  Why is this allow to continue?

The government must immediately ramp up border patrols, interdiction, scanning at ports and points of entry, random patrols in coastal areas,  and do all we can to stop the flow of drugs, guns, and people into T&T.

Crime is reaching astronomical levels, gangs are roaming everywhere, murders are on the rise, tens of thousands of illegals are swamping the systems and resources of T&T and we behave as if it is hunky dory and all is well.  Things are getting worse in Venezuela with power cuts for much of the day in many areas, basic supplies running out and violence increasing. People are desperately trying to get out of that land or coming to T&T to trade, barters etc (what do you think they bring to barter & trade?). The easy availability of guns is the major reason for crime. Let’s tackle this problem, now, as a matter of national urgency. If  the current Ministers of National Security cannot do the job then the Prime Minister has to step in, maybe take control of that Ministry, manage & supervise the Ministers… or get people who can do a better job there.

Inshan S Ishmael

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I would like to place on Public record that if Immigration don’t get off their backsides and do something to stem the flow of Illegal Immigrants from Guyana, Grenada, Jamaica, Nigeria, China, India, venezuela, Jamaica and other Countries we will reap the whirlwind.. In fact it has already started….I was told by inside sources that over 50,000 Venezuelans have already landed….The laws MUST be changed, anyone providing accommodation to an Illegal Immigrant must be held accountable and charged..$ 100,000 minimum.

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64 Comments on “Influx of ‘foreigners’ Changing the Region”

  1. lawson April 27, 2016 at 5:49 AM #

    Don’t let immigrants in …you don’t want them working hard and setting the bar too high for the locals.

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  2. ac April 27, 2016 at 6:25 AM #

    Maybe it is time for regional govts to revisit and revised t the immigrations laws assigned through Caricom
    Yes the frustration levels among the natives and the illegal entry of foreigners would not get better as time go by
    The peoples voice would eventually be heard ending with catastrophic results sooner rather than later
    The fact being that govts like Venezuela should be held accountable for their people plight and the burden of responsibility should be leveled against those govt with calls for some kind of penalties be it a cutting off of trade in similarity to what other nations have done as leverage and durable actions against countries who use threats of war against their nations

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  3. St George's Dragon April 27, 2016 at 7:14 AM #

    The influx of foreigners is not a new thing. It’s been going on in Barbados since 1627 so it might be difficult to throw out all the newcomers.

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  4. Well Well & Consequences April 27, 2016 at 7:55 AM #

    Lawson…were you not the one screaming loudly with MoneyB about Justin letting in the Syrian immigrationsvto get your benefits. These islands are small and problem plagued, lack resources and large spaces.

    Canada is bigger than the US with wide open spaces further than the eye can see and only have a 34 million population, a couple years ago, I think it was an area in or just outside Scarborough the Asian community had succeeded in building their own town, supermarket, everthing.

    There is enough room in Canada for everyone, even in the Yukon territories, why dont you invite everyone, the Caribbean population can all fit nicely, just in one corner of GTA….anywhere in Calgary….so much space and hardworking people that they are in other countries, will contribute significantly to Revenue Canada…lol

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  5. Well Well & Consequences April 27, 2016 at 7:58 AM #

    St. George…. and in 1627, there were no passports, visas or immigration, they just rolled in, killed the natives, set up shop and brought in slaves and indentured servants while stealing everything in sight, same bitches who now burden everyone with visas and immigration laws.

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  6. Bernard Codrington. April 27, 2016 at 8:36 AM #

    There were no natives in Barbados in 1627. The few that were seen were passing through.

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  7. millertheanunnaki April 27, 2016 at 9:03 AM #

    @ St George’s Dragon April 27, 2016 at 7:14 AM #
    “The influx of foreigners is not a new thing. It’s been going on in Barbados since 1627 so it might be difficult to throw out all the newcomers.”

    Well said SGD?
    The Caribbean is just one melting pot of immigrants from the three ‘old’ continents.
    Trinidadians should be the last to display anti-immigrant attitudes.
    The vast majority of them have their origins in the hellhole of Calcutta brought in to replace the lazy ‘Africans’ in the cane fields and who were becoming too uppity; demanding to be allowed to go to church and be able to read the Bible.

    The only ethnic group entitled to be seen as victims of ‘free-for-all’ immigration are the Amerindians who have been decimated because of imported communicable diseases.

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  8. David April 27, 2016 at 9:37 AM #

    Again the simple point to be made is that our concern is not about immigration per se but border management to protect our quality of life. It is what all developed countries do. Then again we are not developed.

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  9. Well Well & Consequences April 27, 2016 at 10:11 AM #

    Bernard…not to get into a back and forth, but there are archeologists recently on the island who found irrefutable proof that there were natives in Barbados as there were on all the other islands, where were they passing through to, we will not have history rewritten so that a few can tell more lies for the next hundred years.

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  10. Shaft April 27, 2016 at 10:26 AM #

    What quality of life are talking about… The quality of life experienced by Caucasians, they don’t seem to mind immigration..! Why, because they have their own areas and control of the BDS$..! These immigrants are coming with loads-a-money and because Barbadians focus is now all about money, they’ll be welcomed..!

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  11. Vincent Haynes April 27, 2016 at 10:29 AM #

    Humanoids have been moving/roaming all over this world from the time the first tribes decided to exit the area around Eritrea.
    What is so absurd is that the majority of the tribes around the world hold fast to some deity that tells them in one form or another to be your brothers keeper and have love for every one,yet we find reasons to deny them those same platitudes such as statements like…the need to protect our quality of life…..it will be a drain on our economy…not enough space…….what a hypocritical and selfish lot we humanoids are.

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  12. ac April 27, 2016 at 10:29 AM #

    Based on the article content it is clear that the influx is a caused of economics.
    The fact being that protection of our borders means a 24 hr dilligence which can only so far has solve the problems of the influx partially.
    However if regional govts can agreed on a solution where the govt of those nations from which the illegal immigration flows one in which those govts should bear full resopsibilty for the economic refugees( for which there is no basis for legal status to be granted ).Then the high flow of the increase of illegal immigrants would decrease significantly
    Whereby govts would have a right to impose sanctions against those govts who are lacks in their immigratiln laws or policies with a disregard on the burden caused by the disproportionate influx of illegal immigrants on neighbouring countries

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  13. Alvin Cummins April 27, 2016 at 10:48 AM #

    Bernard Codrington, et al,
    Caribs, Arawaks, (the Natives) were here long before 1627. In 1972, There was much wringing of hands over the question of immigrants in Canada. Selficxh people …of the DonaldTrump ilk, will always object to the entry of other people, but wherever yo go in this world; and it is the only one we have,so shut up about this foolishness and live your individual life to the fullest. You were born alone and will die alone.

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  14. lawson April 27, 2016 at 1:51 PM #

    If the caribs were visiting today I am sure the arawaks would be worried since they are on the menu. Very similar to head lopping by isis refugees. It is funny how people come to a country because of all its good points, freedom, economy etc etc then try to change it into the shithole they just came from

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  15. Well Well & Consequences April 27, 2016 at 3:09 PM #

    Lawson…is that a confession to the Inuits, etc

    Lol.

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  16. lawson April 27, 2016 at 3:20 PM #

    That is a statement of fact , those first French and Italian explorers of north America did screw things up but lucky some sane scots finally came over and straightened the mess out

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  17. Well Well & Consequences April 27, 2016 at 3:46 PM #

    I gather you are of scottish descent Lawson and you still did not answer my question re Canada.

    Everywhere the self proclaimed “settlers” aka old thieves went, they brought disease, death, destruction, displacement of natives, for centuries, there is no way to get around it and the only thing the lowlifes like Grant brought over from Scotland, was Eugenics, ethinic cleansing and racism, practiced to this day…..chaos, confusion, destruction…not a good track record dude.

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  18. Gabriel April 27, 2016 at 5:47 PM #

    Read in the Zimbabwe Herald that Chinese nationals are creating havoc with the money supply in Zimbabwe.It appears that US currency is the coin of the realm there and the South African rand is at an all time low against the dollar and the Chinese are physically taking thousands of dollars in cash and depositing in South Africa.One was caught at the airport in Zim with US$50,000.00 in cash and was made to pay a fine of $200.00!!!There was no mention of confiscation of the money.The article confirms that oversight of the money supply is very poor.Incredible to read of this in of all places Zimbabwe.

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  19. Crusoe April 27, 2016 at 8:00 PM #

    Immigrants are not killing the Caribbean economies, corruption is.

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  20. Crusoe April 27, 2016 at 8:09 PM #

    @David,

    The Caribbean islands cannot thrive without a robust Caricom. That is the reality.

    The other tough task will be overcoming corruption in private AND public sector.

    Those two points are the foundation of any move forward.

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  21. Simple Simon April 27, 2016 at 8:36 PM #

    @”All this cannot happen unless some in authority are on the take. Why is this allow to continue?”

    Why is it that we Bajans call them Trickydadians?

    The newcomers are exploiting your ingrained dishonesty.

    That’s why.

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  22. Simple Simon April 27, 2016 at 8:41 PM #

    @Bernard Codrington. April 27, 2016 at 8:36 AM “There were no natives in Barbados in 1627. The few that were seen were passing through.”

    So how do you know that there were few, and how do you know that they were just passing through? Did somebody check their passport stamps?

    Don’t believe everything that was written by the wicked, thieving Europeans who came.

    Maybe there were 20,000 indigenous people living in Barbados, and maybe they were all killed off.

    The truth is that we do not know because the research has not been done as yet.

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  23. Simple Simon April 27, 2016 at 8:47 PM #

    Indigenous people were living in these islands for thousands of years, maybe for tens of thousands of years

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  24. Lawrence James Bauer CFA April 28, 2016 at 1:34 AM #

    I thought I would share the following article, which was posted on Yahoo for the past few days, dealing with the reason why all modern societies need some controls over both immigration and welfare entitlements: a “caring” socialist economy that gives generous entitlements to those in need will find there is UNLIMITED demand for those entitlements, both from the local people, and the immigrants who bring nothing — gradually bankrupting the declining population who are willing to work.

    When Kansas Instituted Work Requirements to Get Food Stamps, Guess What Happened
    By Rachel Sheffield | April 26, 2016 | 12:25 PM EDT

    Abraham Lincoln once said, “No country can sustain, in idleness, more than a small percentage of its numbers. The great majority must labor at something productive.”

    Over the past several years, the number of Americans on food stamps has soared. In particular, since 2009, the number of “able-bodied-adults” without dependents receiving food stamps more than doubled nationally. Part of this increase is due to a federal rule that allowed states to waive food stamps’ modest work requirement. However, states such as Kansas and Maine chose to reinstate work requirements. Comparing and contrasting the two approaches provides powerful new evidence about the effectiveness of work.

    According to a report from the Foundation for Government Accountability, before Kansas instituted a work requirement, 93 percent of food stamp recipients were in poverty, with 84 percent in severe poverty. Few of the food stamp recipients claimed any income. Only 21 percent were working at all, and two-fifths of those working were working fewer than 20 hours per week.

    Once work requirements were established, thousands of food stamp recipients moved into the workforce, promoting income gains and a decrease in poverty. Forty percent of the individuals who left the food stamp ranks found employment within three months, and about 60 percent found employment within a year. They saw an average income increase of 127 percent. Half of those who left the rolls and are working have earnings above the poverty level. Even many of those who stayed on food stamps saw their income increase significantly.

    Work programs provide opportunities such as job training and employment search services. For example, in Kansas, workfare helped one man, who was unemployed for four years and on food stamps, find employment in the publishing industry where he now earns $45,000 annually. Another Kansan who was also previously unemployed and dependent on food stamps for over three years, now has an annual income of $34,000.

    Furthermore, with the implementation of the work requirement in Kansas, the caseload dropped by 75 percent. Previously, Kansas was spending $5.5 million per month on food stamp benefits for able-bodied adults; it now spends $1.2 million.

    Maine is another powerful example in favor of work over dependency. Similarly to Kansas, Maine saw a major decline in its caseload after instituting a work requirement. Within the first three months after Maine’s work policy went into effect, its caseload of able-bodied adults receiving food stamps plunged by 80 percent, falling from 13,332 recipients in December 2014 to 2,678 in March 2015.

    Providing assistance to help those in need does not have to be a one-way handout. According to a Heritage Foundation survey, Americans overwhelmingly agree that able-bodied adults receiving welfare should work. However, very few of the federal government’s 80 means-tested welfare programs require recipients to work for benefits.

    One of the best ways to ensure that welfare does not become a trap is to initiate reform based on the principles of work and personal responsibility. As the examples of Kansas and Maine show, good public policy can help encourage individuals towards self-sufficiency and better lives.

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  25. David April 28, 2016 at 2:12 AM #

    @Crusoe

    There will be no integration if Jamaica and the other larger islands are not keen.

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  26. Crusoe April 28, 2016 at 4:13 AM #

    @David,

    Agreed. Then, what does that say about the future of the Caribbean.

    Not really a ‘choose which option’ you want scenario, more a yes or no. Obviously, still a choice, but more a choice between being smart and being a shmuck.

    If the islands do not hold and build together, I would say that the most economically viable and stable ‘West Indian’ country in fifteen years will be Guyana. Not because of clever management, purely because of a wealth of natural resources and happenstance based on being negatively ostracized by Burnham.

    Of course, some of them see themselves as South American, that should tell one something too.

    Not a pretty scenario.

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  27. Vincent Haynes April 28, 2016 at 4:26 AM #

    Crusoe April 28, 2016 at 4:13 AM #

    Bajans settled in British Guiana during the middle to late 1800s,hence the Burnhams,Greens,etc and are presently heading to that land of opportunity again like many other Caribbean people.

    It is a vast land mass and like the legendary wild west has great potential….if only I were younger.

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  28. David April 28, 2016 at 4:31 AM #

    @Vincent

    You understand that investment is attracted to places where there is a stable social and political environment? The days where settles will stake a piece of land and defend it with a 303 is not of this time.

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  29. balance April 28, 2016 at 4:49 AM #

    “Maybe there were 20,000 indigenous people living in Barbados, and maybe they were all killed off.

    The truth is that we do not know because the research has not been done as yet.”


    Many of us to justify our infertile boast that ‘our brave forefathers sowed the seed from which our pride has sprung’ try to downplay the events of 1627 and Barbados’ path to development ignominious though it seem to some before our black forefathers were sold to the Europeans into slavery for economic reasons. There is no incontrovertible evidence as yet to refute Mr Codrington’s assertions. The evidence does indicate that there was indeed human existence in the island before 1627 but none at the time. Indeed many of us never make reference to the role of the Portuguese who visited in 1536 and after naming what the island Los Barbadoes after what they perceived to be bearded fig trees growing on the island and seeing no potential in remaining sucked their teeth and left. Not so with the Courteen brothers, they decided to make a hand of it and planted the seed. Out of this economic enfranchisement was born on the island first through the importation of workers of Indian ethnicity from South America specifically British Guiana and then Africa. I have never researched the statement by some that persons of Guyanese descent used to have come here to do the pan boiling instrumental in producing our sugar for the sugar estates so I do not know if it is true. I also wonder why so much credence is given to the stupid story of the Chase vault located in Christ Church parish church whereas no attention is given to the burial site in All saints church yard of the first person purportedly to have landed in Barbados.

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  30. Vincent Haynes April 28, 2016 at 5:01 AM #

    balance April 28, 2016 at 4:49 AM #

    As a person who grew up in the sugar industry I can state that all the panboilers I knew where from BG.Many known bajans are the progeny of these individuals.

    The past and its interpretation by historians must always be viewed with skepticism as evinced by the recent dispute between Beckles and Watson,when Beckles unable to justify his myth produced the race card.

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  31. ac April 28, 2016 at 5:48 AM #

    over twenty thousands Jamaicans are living in T&T many have overstayed their six months of privilege of entry under Caricom law and have become a burden to the govt …Wonder how many Barbadians would agree to having twenty thousand Jamaicans illegally taking up unlawful residency in this country and becoming burden to taxpayers.
    it is about time Caricom immigration laws need to be revisited to be in sync and reflect the reality of times that we are living in, The meaningful and goodwill symbolism of we are one still carries a weigh of responsibility which some govts in the region fail to recognize

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  32. Bush Tea April 28, 2016 at 6:44 AM #

    Good post by Lawrence James Bauer CFA April 28, 2016 at 1:34 AM
    There are few things more destructive to the human being, and more counter-productive to human development …than is welfare.

    Welfare actually produces the very OPPOSITE result to what is required of human development. It creates laziness, mendicancy, subservience, and tyrants.
    By the sweat of a man’s brow should he eat bread and establish his self image and pride in achievement.
    It is our present welfare-based society in Barbados that produces such high class brass bowls who worship easy money, laziness and exotic luxuries while producing as little as possible, and selling off their birthrights to strangers for trinkets…

    Welfare should be restricted to those who are victims of unfortunate circumstances; such as to widows, the injured, and young children who may lose their natural protection. Perhaps even idiots like AC and Carl Moore could be accommodated…

    Too many refugees are simple greedy, lazy, parasites ..who are seeking to reap the benefits of other’s work. Most want to end up in the most advanced societies where money, exotic luxuries and state welfare abounds….
    How many ‘refugees’ seek to settle in safe, but poor, countries where they can have opportunities to help to BUILD a prosperous society…? For example, practically all of those Syrian /Libyans etc in Europe want to get to Germany or London. Few want to be in Greece or even Turkey where they are culturally much more at home…..

    As even Sargeant is beginning to grasp, the basic disease is called ‘albino-centricity’ – the worship of money and materialism…🙂

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  33. ac April 28, 2016 at 8:27 AM #

    @bush shit

    Sigh….lumping all eggs in one basket is counter productive. Seemingly you cannot or refuse to belive that there are some in society who would need assistance from govt
    Where the Syrian refugee choose a place to abode is irrelvant to the causes and curcumstances which makes them flee out of a politicial climate that has become unbearable and which u or any human beign would chose not to stay
    It is so amazing that individuals whose lives are not caught up in catastrophe can easily look down on others with self righteous indignation and form conclusion with an indifference to plight and circumstances which gives sufficient reasons for the individuals to make decisions that are in the pursuit of a dignified and a better way of life

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  34. Well Well & Consequences April 28, 2016 at 8:48 AM #

    Balance….the intent here by a few is to claim that the first white rejects thrown out of UK, were the very first people to land in Barbados as slaves, ya have to watch for intent, if this LIE is allowed to take root as so many of the minorities have been spreading and too many dumb blacks are believing, it would eventually displace the true event of the descendants of the majority blacks as ever being brought to the island as slaves.

    They will find themselves being blamed for the few minorities being brought to the island as indentured servants, instead of the real culprits the UK…black people tend to believe any lie that is successful in displacing them or destroying their true history.

    In the 1500s the Portuguese who landed in Barbados would also have had slaves, everyone of them had already run through Africa, by that time. There were people on the islands thousands of years before others arrived. The same UK put that information in the public that Barbados was inhabited when they started laying claims, they should know, it would all be in their archives ar Mercey Side…hope I got their museum name right.

    If you tell a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. Start teaching that lying crap the minorities are putting out there in the schools and it will be hundreds of years before the truth returns.

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  35. Well Well & Consequences April 28, 2016 at 8:54 AM #

    What the minorities are trying to run away from is that their Scottish, Irish and British ancestors were the victims of Eugenics and ethnic cleansing from the days of Cromwell.

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  36. millertheanunnaki April 28, 2016 at 11:49 AM #

    @ lawson April 27, 2016 at 3:20 PM #
    “That is a statement of fact , those first French and Italian explorers of north America did screw things up but lucky some sane scots finally came over and straightened the mess out..”

    It’s a pity another Scot of Victorian vintage could not achieve a similar feat in Africa.
    Did David Livingstone straighten the East African mess out or did he leave behind the white man’s burden while paving the way for Rhodes the English supremacist?

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  37. Due Diligence April 28, 2016 at 1:01 PM #

    Lawson

    This one for you

    A sign prominently displayed in a store window of a business in CAMPBELTOWN, SCOTLAND.

    ‘WE WOULD RATHER DO BUSINESS WITH 1000 AL QAEDA TERRORISTS THAN WITH ONE SINGLE BRITISH SOLDIER!

    You are probably outraged at the thought of such an inflammatory statement.

    However, we are a society which holds Freedom of Speech as perhaps our greatest liberty

    After all, it is ONLY A SIGN”.

    You may say ‘What kind of business would dare to post such a sign?’

    Answer:

    A FUNERAL PARLOUR.

    (WHO SAID SCOTTISH UNDERTAKERS HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOUR?)

    YOU GOTTA LOVE IT!!!

    = God Bless Scotland =

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  38. Well Well & Consequences April 28, 2016 at 1:13 PM #

    Funny enough, I was watching a documentary on the History Channel this morning re reenactment of the migration 40,000 years ago of homosapiens running out of the Caucasus Mountains to escape the brutal ice age which wreaked havoc in Europe and North America, no one escaped, the Neanderthals in the North also suffered, anyone care to guess where they might have run to, bear in mind that there is also irrefutable DNA proof that despite all the pretty labels, neanderthals and homosapiens are cousins, same strands found in each other’s DNA….yet look how they have managed to corrupt every country and everything.

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  39. David April 28, 2016 at 1:25 PM #

    To those who are misunderstanding the point, it is not about preventing people from entering Barbados. It is about ensuring those who do honor our laws and are fit to enter. It is the right of any sovereign to so do. The generalized BS being posted by a few must be deliberate.

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  40. Well Well & Consequences April 28, 2016 at 2:10 PM #

    The stark reality about that always turn out to be that events always cause things to work out differently, Germany, Turkey, Belgium etc, were trying to keep out immigrants for decades, they now have an influx.

    Man can wax philosophical about sovereignty all they want, but circumstances always dictates differently and ironically it’s often because of mankind’s own actions, it’s the soverign oriented have to pull up roots and migrate.

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  41. Well Well & Consequences April 28, 2016 at 2:21 PM #

    http://ow.ly/4nd3Od

    Wonder how many of them do the same thing in Barbados, I met two both from the US…illegal immigrants who no one pays attention to.

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  42. Simple Simon April 28, 2016 at 9:33 PM #

    @Lawrence James Bauer CFA April 28, 2016 at 1:34 AM “a caring socialist economy that gives generous entitlements to those in need will find there is UNLIMITED demand for those entitlements, both from the local people, and the immigrants who bring nothing gradually bankrupting the declining population who are willing to work.

    So please tell me again because it appears as though I have missed it. Which society was ever bankrupted by immigration?

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  43. Simple Simon April 28, 2016 at 9:39 PM #

    Providing assistance to help those in need does not have to be a one-way handout. According to a Heritage Foundation survey, Americans overwhelmingly agree that able-bodied adults receiving welfare should work. However, very few of the federal government’s 80 means-tested welfare programs require recipients to work for benefits.

    You do know don’t you that the American Heritage Foundation is a right wing talk shop, so of course they would be against welfare for poor people, but welfare for rich banksters? Can’t hear a peep out of the Heritage people..

    So when the U.S. government used billions of the tax payers money were the banksters required to work?

    Stupseee!!!

    Don’t make me laugh

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  44. Simple Simon April 28, 2016 at 10:02 PM #

    @ac April 28, 2016 at 5:48 AM “over twenty thousands Jamaicans are living in T&T many have overstayed their six months of privilege of entry under Caricom law and have become a burden to the govt …Wonder how many Barbadians would agree to having twenty thousand Jamaicans illegally taking up unlawful residency in this country and becoming burden to taxpayers.”

    Since unlawful immigrants typically can’t access tax funded services explain to me how they are a “burden on the taxpayers?”

    In addition since Trinidad’s population is 4 times that of Barbados you do understand that Barbados would only have t host 5,000 illegal immigrants to be in Trinidad’a position. During the BLP’s term of office Barbados hosted far more than 5,000 immigrants (both legal and illegal) and I can tell you that most of them were working and contributing to Barbados’ economy and were NOT a burden on the taxpayers.

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  45. Simple Simon April 28, 2016 at 10:12 PM #

    @Bush Tea April 28, 2016 at 6:44 AM “Welfare should be restricted to those who are victims of unfortunate circumstances; such as to widows.”

    Why widows?

    Aren’t real real men supposed to provide for their wives and children? And aren’t they supposed to save money, purchase insurance etc. in case they die and leave the a widow behind?

    And what’s up with widows anyhow? Suppose I am a 66 year old worker, why should my tax money go to support a 30 year old widow? Why can’t the 30 year old widow find work and stop being lazy, subservient and mendicant?

    Why should I support her just because her husband is dead?

    Will you also give welfare money to those women [and men] who have never had spouses?

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  46. lawson April 28, 2016 at 10:34 PM #

    in an old age home near me all the vets that are left or elderly govt workers marry the young care takers so their pension doesn’t die with them whats
    wrong with that the

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  47. Bush Tea April 28, 2016 at 11:37 PM #

    @ Lawson
    What wrong with that…?
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    NOTHING…… if money and materialism is the god that you worship then it makes complete sense to do whatever it takes to get the maximum amount of dollars …..

    Wuh in young people’s homes …don’t you see marriages that are designed totally around the material resources being brought to the relationship?
    Boss, when you possess the ability to physically enslave 20 generations of human beings solely for the purpose of enriching yourself, then squeezing a few more years of pension money out of the government is child’s play…

    @ Simple Simon
    Bushie said ‘widows’, not EXes…. and no one said ’30-year-olds’…wuh dum is politicians?

    Widows (some) tend to live their whole lives as a part of a ‘unit’, playing a vital ‘at-home’ role. On the death of a husband in such a relationship, and in particular where the couple may have been very modest to begin with, such a lady may need family /community support. Those that don’t need help are fine…. but there may be JUSTIFIABLE cause for a lifelong, hardworking housewife (whose contribution to the community via her stable family- may well exceed many other jokers who go out to work) to be formally supported by that community.
    How does a 69 year-old housewife go out and look for a job in such circumstances?

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  48. Sargeant April 29, 2016 at 12:41 AM #

    @Bush Tea
    Good post by Lawrence James Bauer
    ++++++++
    What makes it a “good” post? “Good” is a relative term, so what is it good for? “good” for whom? After reading the submission I smelled a rat because it sure didn’t seem like the Kansas that I have been reading about recently, then I looked up the author and saw that she worked for the Heritage Foundation and it all came together.

    I know that you don’t pay much to what goes on in the USA beyond the headlines but Kansas has been in the news recently and not in a good way, it has been hard hit by a poor economic performance despite a right wing Republican Governor and a super majority Republican legislature. The welfare cuts that it has imposed are more punitive than remedial and It will ensure that the children of those most affected will continue to be in the welfare cycle long after their parents are gone. Guess who is a major backers of the welfare cuts? None other than the Heritage Foundation so when their shrill reports that a man who was jobless for four years and on welfare in Kansas has finally finds a job that pays him $45,000 annually I say bullshit. This same Foundation is against raising of minimum wages, they don’t seem to care that the minimum wage earners are the first through the door of the food banks.

    It might sound good but it don’t mean nothing (with a little license from Public Enemy) so BT do a little research before you endorse the people with hidden agendas

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  49. ac April 29, 2016 at 5:04 AM #

    listen SSS maybe you are not living in this world where fraud thrives and is a booming business .need i say more about illegal immigrants

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  50. Well Well & Consequences April 29, 2016 at 7:06 AM #

    Bauer talking the usual nonsense, illegals always take jobs that locals think they are too great to do, except when there is a recession, it saves employers tons of money in paying benefits, they are then able to pay staff bigger salaries, except minimum wage eaners, which means more money in the economy, except for what they stash off shore to evade taxes.

    Either that or as happened from the 90s, export jobs to China, South East Asia or South America and pay those workers US $1 a day and leave the US workers to cry foul and that all the jobs are being exported, whereas, with illegals working in the US, the jobs stay in the US and aside from remittances, the money circulates in the US.

    Obama had a hell of a fight trying to raise minimum wage, welfare recipients serve several very devious purposes, outside of the corporate welfare recipients who receive taxpayer funded welfare in the hundreds of billions of dollars, only to stash it offshore.

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  51. Colonel Buggy April 29, 2016 at 12:52 PM #

    lawson April 28, 2016 at 10:34 PM #
    A fellow on the block told me that a similar thing is happening here in Q in the Community, with what they call retired Returning Nationals from England.

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  52. lawson April 29, 2016 at 1:04 PM #

    BT pension money is money I was forced to put into Canada pension plan and others over the years and they have the nerve to tax me on it as they dribble it back after they have been using it free of charge for years. The govt is more than willing to give free rides to people I don’t know with my money, at least this way I can know I am helping a good person that needs a hand up not a hand out.
    But don’t feel left out ,knowing that materialistic things mean anything to you I will post a couple of good African snail recipes shortly.

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  53. Crusoe April 30, 2016 at 4:10 AM #

    Bush Tea ”Too many refugees are simple greedy, lazy, parasites ..who are seeking to reap the benefits of other’s work. Most want to end up in the most advanced societies where money, exotic luxuries and state welfare abounds….
    How many ‘refugees’ seek to settle in safe, but poor, countries where they can have opportunities to help to BUILD a prosperous society…? For example, practically all of those Syrian /Libyans etc in Europe want to get to Germany or London. Few want to be in Greece or even Turkey where they are culturally much more at home…..”

    ….

    No, those refugees may include such lazy parasites, but mainly are folks looking to improve their life, hence why they would not want to go near Greece or Turkey, even if culturally more at home. Unfortunately, they should leave their ‘culture’ where they brought it from. Integrate, not stagnate and ruin where they are going.

    Who the France wants to live in Turkey, they may be refugees, but they are not stupid.

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  54. fortyacresandamule April 30, 2016 at 8:51 PM #

    Trinidad should be the last countrty in the region talking about illegal / legal immigrants from Caricom coming into their country. Last time I checked, they are the only one enjoying the fruits of the single maket. Trinidad trade surplus with the rest of the region is so huge that it is joke to talk about trade in region. One way flow is not trade. Caribbean governments lose a lot of custom taxes because goods from Trinidad enter tax free. Diesel and electricity is subsidised below cost of production in Trinidad. Petrotrin sells refine fuel in Caricom market at premium price, when we could have sourced cheaper fuel else where. In essence, CARICOM countries are the one enriching Port of Spain .

    The migration from other CARICOM countries into Trinidad, is a correction for the massive trade surplus they have been gifted.

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  55. David April 30, 2016 at 10:03 PM #

    @fortyacresandamule

    An interesting point that brings into focus one one of the reasons LIAT has never been able to compete with T&T owned Caribbean Airlines. The T&T government subsidizes the fuel of the national airline.

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  56. fortyacresandamule April 30, 2016 at 10:53 PM #

    @David. Right on. Caribbean airlines aviation fuel is subsided. I don’t begrudge them for their endowment. However, in economics there is no free lunch, and the market will find a way to make correction. Trinidad foreign exchange reserve is around US$ 10 billion plus another US$ 5billion in their heritage fund. There debt load is nothing, compare to the debt overhang killing other CARICOM governments. Even with low oil prices, they have enough room in the medium term to ride it out.

    I mention all of that to say, the few Caricom citizens who are living illegally in trinidad is nothing, compare to the over 90% of CARICOM market Trinidad alone controls. They should be more worried about their citizens who are joining ISIS.

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  57. Simple Simon April 30, 2016 at 10:53 PM #

    @Bush Tea April 28, 2016 at 11:37 PM “but there may be JUSTIFIABLE cause for a lifelong, hardworking housewife (whose contribution to the community via her stable family- may well exceed many other jokers who go out to work) to be formally supported by that community. How does a 69 year-old housewife go out and look for a job in such circumstances?”

    Agreed. I have no problem with the state providing for oldish and elderly widows, especially those who have made a socio/economic contribution by raising good daughters and sons.

    But the young widows should find wuk or a next man.

    I think it was St. Paul who suggested that young widows should marry again, but i ain’t no Bible scholar, a fella like Georgie Porgie would know chapter and verse.

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  58. Simple Simon April 30, 2016 at 10:54 PM #

    I may be Simple Simon, but I ain’t foolish.

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  59. Bush Tea May 1, 2016 at 6:47 AM #

    @ Lawson
    man you and MoneyB are something else…
    Wunna run from Paradise to the Fridge to get way from Tom’s income taxes. Mind you, these were taxes on free money that MoneyB’s dad got when he sold off Bajan assets to for’ners.
    …now you going to extremes to extract pension contributions that you had to make in the Fridge.
    Cuh dear, wunna mean that wunna WILL NOT contribute to the greater good AT ALL??!!

    @ Crusoe
    Everyone wants to improve their lives.
    Mendicants do it by begging, scraping and yardfowling.
    Parasites do it by jumping on the backs of others..
    Capitalists do it by exploitation…
    Prostitutes do it by selling their assets.

    The CORRECT way is to use one’s given talent to generate a level of surplus commensurate with the degree of improvement desired…

    @ Simple
    We are again at one…
    …and yes…young widows should marry again – (and EX-men should be replaced.)
    Did you say that you would be coming by the Bush hut when you finished washing today…?

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  60. lawson May 1, 2016 at 7:12 AM #

    BT last night at the US correspondence dinner Obama said he would like to own a bunch of Tubmans so why are you guys even talking about reparations. My problem with making money in the deep freeze is how hard it was to make it, and when the govt wants to use my pension money as their slush fund I take issue, what about all the half clothed girls I have been taking care of at the strip club what about them or the bartenders I have put through college are they not as equally needy.

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  61. Simple Simon May 2, 2016 at 12:10 PM #

    Leviticus Chapter 19 verse 33 and 34 “‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.”

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  62. Crusoe May 2, 2016 at 12:26 PM #

    Bush Tea May 1, 2016 at 6:47 AM # @ Lawson
    man you and MoneyB are something else…@ Crusoe Everyone wants to improve their lives.Mendicants do it by begging, scraping and yardfowling. Parasites do it by jumping on the backs of others.. Capitalists do it by exploitation… Prostitutes do it by selling their assets.

    The CORRECT way is to use one’s given talent to generate a level of surplus commensurate with the degree of improvement desired…

    Not disputing that one must actually work to build one’s life, but your generalisaiton re the refugees was unfair.

    And the point stands, trying to put one’s efforts into one of the developed countries is preferable for them, than into some ME country run by dunderheads, like it or not, that is the truth.

    And the same applies here, really. You say it yourself all the time, re the brassbowls running things.

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  63. Victor May 3, 2016 at 2:52 AM #

    The solution to unwanted immigration to any country is really simple. Work out whether you need more people coming in, work out why. Then see whether you can reorganise your own people to fill in the gaps in the workforce by retraining, etc. If not, invite immigrants to apply for work permits which have a shelf-life. That’s the Australian model which has worked well.
    The horrible fate of indigenous Australians at the time of conquest is still a major issue there but luckily its not something Barbados needs to address since it seems no locals were wiped out during early settlement.

    As a result of European expansion by trade via seaborne conquest of distant lands which began FIVE HUNDRED years ago, millions of West Africans ended up as slaves in the Americas. It became global simply because technology (the compass, improvements in shipbuilding etc., )allowed it to be so as prior to that huge seaborne expansion, everybody on the planet had been doing the same by land anyway. The very word “slave” comes from Slav, peoples popular as captured servants.

    Improvements in sailing, the quest for wealth enabled the trans-Atlantic slave trade to flourish.
    It was a time of wealth-creation on a global scale.

    Slavery has been going on since recorded time but for the first time in human history people began to demand a stop to enslavement. England, one nation which profited hugely from the sugar boom, was one of the first to condemn slavery and the first to outlaw it. Under the French Revolution it was banned but soon became OK again under Napoleon.

    It’s all part of history now and islands in the Caribbean are independent as are the descendants of slaves from West Africa throughout South America.

    I say that but always on the news today are stories of people being enslaved. The number of enslaved people today is far greater than what happened during the Atlantic slave trade.

    Why are Bajans not looking into that as a sign of respect to their ancestors?

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