Professor Kamala Kempadoo

Prostitution as Legitimate Business

A BU repost from elsewhere because it should be a matter of public interest if for the only reason that it exposes our hypocrisy – Barbados Underground

prositutionThere may be more explanations than one for the deafening public silence that has followed the recent suggestion from Professor Kamala Kempadoo of York University that prostitution should be decriminalized in the region and, since we are included in that region, should be decriminalized in Barbados.

While delivering the Sir Arthur Lewis Distinguished Lecture for 2016 under the auspices of the eponymous Institute for Social and Economic Studies (SALISES), the professor asserted, “…the decriminalization of prostitution would go a long way towards making the sex trade a safer place to work and could eliminate underhand deals, extortions, false promises, criminalization of sex workers by immigration, smuggling of persons…It could allow working women to get access to State protection, health care and rights…”

Among the several explanations for the subsequent silence is the fact that many Barbadians may be astounded at the need to “decriminalize” a practice that is widely connived at and, given local knowledge, is not at all the subject of rigorous official proscription by the state. Indeed, to many of the populace, prostitution is already criminalized if not partially legalized.

It might also be the case that, as with other modern calls for decriminalization –of consensual homosexual acts between adult males in private and of marijuana, the seemingly cultural Barbadian trait of justifying the status quo as optimal immediately kicks in to resist even the suggestion of amendment. Moreover, as Professor Kempadoo rightly noted, there is much moral indignation and stigma that surrounds sexual inclinations.

It may be, therefore, that while there is general ignorance concerning the legalities of prostitution, any suggestion that the status quo should be altered to the further legitimization of the practice is definitely not to be supported.

The truth is that Barbados appears officially to have adopted the stance that while prostitution may be an inescapable reality of human interaction, it prefers to embrace the so-called “abolitionist ” approach; whereby the clandestine sale of sex may be permitted, but all related commercial activities (solicitation, living off the earnings of a prostitute, the keeping of a brothel and procurement) are criminalized by statute.

This does, of course, present a dilemma for us since we generally tend to view the activity of prostitution as sinful, at least overtly, and not in keeping with our claimed Christian values. At the same time, the absence of rigorous enforcement of the law, except perhaps in the context of immigration regulation, belies our moral indignation.

The decriminalization of prostitution for us would thus entail the removal of the criminal sanction from those related activities mentioned above, a phenomenon that we are not certain would meet with popular support, especially since they are all directed to the protection of the prostitute from exploitation.

Professor Kempadoo’s thesis is premised on the argument that sex for economic security in the region is often a “strategy that keeps families and communities afloat” and “effects many other areas of income generation and small business opportunities”, including “hair and nail services”.

We are in no position to gainsay the validity of the professor’s assertions, although we consider that her proposals are much better suited to a jurisdiction that criminalizes the act of prostitution itself. Barbados currently does not.

There may be room for an argument that the stigma and discrimination that the members of this profession attract is to be regretted, although further research may be needed to establish the extent to which these unjustifiably prevent access to public health care and to the enjoyment of civic entitlements.

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116 Comments on “Prostitution as Legitimate Business”

  1. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 11:26 AM #

    @Vincent Haynes April 11, 2016 at 6:53 AM “I set my price and hours and vacation time myself (particularly in the U.S., where we have one of the lowest vacation time minimums in the Western world).”

    Perhaps the whores should join or lead the trade unions and lead the fight for a reasonable period of vacation for everybody, whore or not.

    Because why are U.S> workers labouring under a 2 week vacation period even while the 1% stash their billions of billions of extra cash in Panama?

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  2. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 11:35 AM #

    http://www.peterberkowitz.com/otherpeoplesmothers.htm
    Other People’s mothers

    What is the best thing to do with other people’s elderly, disabled and expensive mothers? Euthanasia?

    And what do we do with our own mothers? The best nursing home that we and our state’s resources can afford/

    And how do we treat our own daughters? University professor perhaps?

    And how do we treat to other people’s daughters? Whore?

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  3. ac April 11, 2016 at 12:44 PM #

    The more postive strides women make it is as if some men cannot resist any negative opportunity to destroy woman character . This balony about descriminalizing prostitution is in itself an affront to demoralize woman while putting men back in an area of sexual control a place of sexual and illicit gratification a place where men always belive they had a divine right of entitlement

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  4. millertheanunnaki April 11, 2016 at 12:54 PM #

    @ ac April 11, 2016 at 10:58 AM #
    “It is truly amazing and of significant importance how it took so many years of mental and social transformation for men to come to terms and understand a woman self worth one being equal partners on the job equalityfor pay equality with a determination to be in leadrship positions.yet today there are still men convinced that breaking those barriers are more importance as they lead the charges that degrade and attacks women self worth by use of coded words and subliminal information..”

    Well said, ac!
    None of us fair-minded people on BU could have put it better. So next time you are vilifying and decrying Mia Mottley in true DLP yard-fowl fashion you should look into the mirror, say three “Hail Marys” and repeat the above as a soliloquy to cleanse your filthy conscience continuously filled with hypocrisy.

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  5. ac April 11, 2016 at 1:00 PM #

    Sorry Miller the jury is still out as to which gender Mia represnts. Sorry ole goat to burst your bubble.

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  6. millertheanunnaki April 11, 2016 at 1:03 PM #

    @ ac April 11, 2016 at 12:44 PM
    The more postive strides women make it is as if some men cannot resist any negative opportunity to destroy woman character .

    There you go , ac! First ‘Hail Mary’ out of your confessional box. We always thought you were a “Man” of the type prepared to destroy a ‘woman’s character’.

    Now do the second “Hail Mary’ and admit the DLP is just a bunch of incompetent lying bastards bent on destroying your once sweet country.

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  7. TheGazer April 11, 2016 at 2:17 PM #

    Simple Simon
    Regardless of what we wish for our daughters or sons, some of them will not meet our expectations. That is a fact of life. The question therefore is ” How can we widen the tent so that we protect all of our children?”

    I understand your feelings, but bear in mind that we are not talking of aliens but of people who are already here and walking among us. If not legalization, what is your solution?

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  8. Vincent Haynes April 11, 2016 at 2:18 PM #

    Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 11:26 AM #

    To each their own…..who are we to judge or condemn……..I think you know about the casting the first stone analogy…

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  9. Well Well & Consequences April 11, 2016 at 2:21 PM #

    SS….that would just be an extension of the voyeuristic duties AC performs on BU.

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  10. TheGazer April 11, 2016 at 2:22 PM #

    @ac
    I read what you said. Sometimes I get the impression that you believe we are discussing a hypothetical situation or that it is a man versus woman problem. What we are discussing is not hypothetical or new; in fact, as many have pointed out, it is one of our oldest problem.
    Let’s tackle and solve it.

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  11. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 2:41 PM #

    @Vincent Haynes April 11, 2016 at 2:18 PM “To each their own…..who are we to judge or condemn……..I think you know about the casting the first stone analogy…”

    Not casting any stones Vincent.

    Just trying to ask pertinent questions in the hope of eliciting sensible answers.

    From time to time, especially in a recession (I recall that the late Branford Taitt raised legal prostitution as a solution even while he was a Cabinet Minister) we hear this talk about permitting women (and the smaller number of men who work as prostitutes in Barbados) to legally earn their living by prostitution.

    My question is are we not letting the political class off too easily?

    Are we not letting the capitalist class (those with plenty of money here and even more hidden off shore too easily?

    Should not the political class and the capitalist class (that is those who reap most benefits in any society) be made to work harder, be more creative, should not we the people demand better for our daughters and grand daughters that to aspire to be whores?

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  12. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 2:43 PM #

    Wunna understand that when this talk about prostitution arises they who propose it mean your daughters, wives, granddaughters, and sisters too?

    Today it might be “them”

    Tomorrow it might be “us”

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  13. Bush Tea April 11, 2016 at 2:47 PM #

    @ Simple Simon
    LOl … you seem to have tossed a cat in among the ‘legalize’ pigeons with your admonition to “do unto others as you would have done to your sister and mommy….”

    Works every time…. even when they are driven by the money/materialism thing that says that the most cost effective approach is to legalize, it all seems so different when the shoes are on THEIR feet …or in this case, their mom’s and little sister’s…..

    Of course, those driven by a philosophy that puts GOD and country before self would do ALL in their power to help potential prostitutes to avoid that lifestyle altogether …by providing education, guidance, support and love ..just as they would do for a favorite sister.. and they would suffer with those who still fell into the trap – like they would for a favorite little sister…

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  14. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 2:49 PM #

    Kempadoo is a Grenadian is she not? She must know then that prostitutes are not denied medical care in Barbados. Any man or woman can show up at any polyclinic in Barbados and be treated for whatever ails them.

    I have used the polyclinic services in Barbados for many decades and at no time has anybody ever asked me what I do for a living.

    At the polyclinics nobody cares whether you are a prince, prelate, prime minister or pope.

    Why do we insist in letting foreigners demand we implement solutions to problems which we have long solved or which do not exist?

    Maybe in other places prostitutes are denied care because they are prostitutes but I have NEVER heard of any denial of care to any Bajan based on the kind of work the patient does.

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  15. TheGazer April 11, 2016 at 2:51 PM #

    Usually, I agree with the Bushman.
    Having difficulty understanding him…
    Some are already here with us. Watchu gonna do???

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  16. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 3:02 PM #

    B@ush Tea April 11, 2016 at 2:47 PM @ Simple Simon LOl … you seem to have tossed a cat in among the ‘legalize’ pigeons with your admonition to “do unto others as you would have done to your sister and mommy….”

    It is my duty to toss the cat about the pigeons (figuratively) of course) Lol!!!

    Or as I call it asking pertinent questions in order to elicit sensible answers. Lol!!!

    But truly I try to hold onto one law.

    Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart…

    And

    Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

    As the mother and grandmother of daughters I have no wish to see any of them working as whores, university professor, capitalist merchant, prime minister, pope or something so is more what I am thinking.

    And the same for my neighbors daughters and grand daughters who can be the Cabinet Ministers etc.

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  17. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 3:04 PM #

    @TheGazer April 11, 2016 at 2:51 PM “Some are already here with us. Watchu gonna do???”

    You Gazer can brighter the corner where you are by…

    keeping thy money and thy parts in thy pants.

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  18. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 3:15 PM #

    If wunna men think it is so important for unemployed or underemployed women to have money why can’t wunna give them some of your money?

    Why do you have to ask for or expect sex in return?

    Prostitution is NOT about making for money…it is about making sex or extra sex available to men.

    because if it was only about money every man in the world would be pushing for a just child support system, every man would be pushing education and every man would be pushing job creation.

    We could also use the tax system to create and distribute a minimum guaranteed annual income, so that everyone, men and women and children too can eat, and not have to sleep outdoors or do without medical care.

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  19. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 3:20 PM #

    Wunna are talking about prostituting our wives, daughters and grand daughters when some a wunna won’t even support your toddlers?

    when some ‘o wunna boast that wunna “never pay a cent in income tax ’bout in Barbados yet” ?

    when even presently women and your children bunking ’bout at all kinda strangers place and the government has $36 million in an emergency fund bank account for more that 10 years now and won’t spend a blasted cent of it?

    Wunna want me to go on?

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  20. lawson April 11, 2016 at 3:21 PM #

    SS…a safe place to raise the next generation lol…..only a woman can be sure she is raising your next generation

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  21. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 3:24 PM #

    @Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 3:02 PM #

    Correction
    As the mother and grandmother of daughters I have no wish to see any of them working as whores. University professor, capitalist merchant, prime minister, pope or something so is more what I am thinking.

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  22. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 3:30 PM #

    @lawson April 11, 2016 at 3:21 PM “SS…a safe place to raise the next generation lol…..only a woman can be sure she is raising your next generation.”

    Lawson in the grand scheme of things it does not matter whether or not the next generation is literally yours or if you like a certain Archbishop of Canterbury discovers thy daddy ain’t your daddy.

    The important this is to ensure that somebody is there to wipe our sorry @sses when we can no longer do it ourselves.

    it does not matter whether that somebody is my son or your daughter.

    get over yourself

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  23. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 3:33 PM #

    @lawson April 11, 2016 at 3:21 PM “SS…a safe place to raise the next generation lol…..only a woman can be sure she is raising your next generation

    If God wanted wunna to know he would have told ya…the fact is for millions of years you did not know, because speaking in biological terms there is no need for you to know.

    I’ve heard men enough say that “the child that ain’t my child is my best child.”

    As I said get over yourself.

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  24. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 3:36 PM #

    @Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 3:20 PM “Wunna talking about prostituting our wives, daughters and grand daughters when some ‘o wunna extract concession after consession from the over burdened tax payers.

    Wunna want me to go on?

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  25. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 3:39 PM #

    @Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 2:41 PM
    Correction:

    From time to time, especially in a recession (I recall that the late Branford Taitt raised legal prostitution as a solution even while he was drawing a big fat a Cabinet Minister’s salary from outta de tax payers pocket)

    Wunna want me to go on?

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  26. Bush Tea April 11, 2016 at 3:43 PM #

    @ Gazer
    There is no requirement to always agree with Bushie… nothing wrong with throwing some licks in the whacker from time to time…🙂

    That said however, Simple Simon is making a strong case that rather than ACCEPT a clearly bad situation and even making it worse by now encouraging even more women to fall into the trap, …how is it that we are not OUTRAGED that in the 21st century ….after 60 years of universal free education…. we can have a society where our women can find themselves in a position where they have to sell their bodies…?

    How come we are not fixated with addressing the CLEAR social weaknesses that cause it…?

    Far from outrage, Vincent seems to exude RELISH at the thought of ‘more to choose from…’
    What does it say about us as a people that we can ACCEPT this situation …and far from STRIVING to see it reduced to nothingness by PROPER SOCIAL INTERVENTIONS, we are agreeable to FORMALLY accepting the humiliation of other people’s sisters, wives, mothers and aunts…

    It CANNOT be right….
    Not if we care for ANYTHING besides our OWN selves…

    How can Bushie do anything but support Simple…?

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  27. lawson April 11, 2016 at 6:02 PM #

    So SS a whore is not a whore if she is married, odd I think what you are saying is all women are the same…they just give them different names eo you can tell them apart.

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  28. ac April 11, 2016 at 6:08 PM #

    Gazer @ ac

    I read what you said. Sometimes I get the impression that you believe we are discussing a hypothetical situation or that it is a man versus woman problem. What we are discussing is not hypothetical or new; in fact, as many have pointed out, it is one of our oldest problem.

    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    What hypotethical there is nothing hypothetical about my comments The root of all this ” so called” profession” is Control men arrogance and need to control the woman in and outside the home
    See! how easy it is for your to come from behind the curtains of immorality to protect your territory.? Oh yes bro as far as you concerned that is all MINE
    Nothing in your comments talks about dignity or the character of the prostitute and the long term psychological effects to you it is just another business sale which should be decriminalized. Which is why you feel absolutely no sense of shame in calling prostitution a profession

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  29. ac April 11, 2016 at 6:32 PM #

    If You want to call Prostituition a profession here are some of the harmful facts about this profession ,This is a reality check time for you sir

    Ask any prostitute if she enjoys her profession?
    Ask her if her job is self fullifing
    Ask her if she confides in her children if or when they ask her where she works
    Ask her if she what duties she has to perform in her profession ?
    Ask her if she enjoys being sexually engaged with different men on several occasion
    Ask her if she would advice her children to become prostitutes
    ASk her if she feels violated
    Ask her if when she reaches old age if she would have any regrets
    ASk her how many times she has been abused
    Ask her how times she has received a birthday or a sentimental card from the male counterparts
    Ask her if at any time she has occasioned to one or any of her sexual contacts on the street and they ever engaged her
    Ask her if she would prefer to be a Prostitute than being a married woman with a loving husband
    These are problems that decriminalization cannot resolved
    ASk her about her wages and how it accounts for her lifestyle ,
    Ask her if she feels pride and dignity within herself
    Ask her if if she had better choices if she would be a prostitute

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  30. ac April 11, 2016 at 6:37 PM #

    In prostitution, men remove women’s humanity. Buying a woman in prostitution gives men the power to turn women into a living, breathing masturbation fantasy. He removes her self and those qualities that define her as an individual, and for him she becomes sexualized body parts. She acts the part of the thing he wants her to be.
    A john who was guaranteed anonymity said prostitution was like “renting an organ for ten minutes”. Another man said, “I use them like I might use any other amenity, a restaurant, or a public convenience.
    Women who prostitute have described it as “paid rape” and “voluntary slavery”. Prostitution is sexual harassment, sexual exploitation, often worse. His payment does not erase what we know about sexual violence, domestic violence and rape.

    Gazer these are facts you are in desperate need of a reality check.

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  31. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 10:25 PM #

    @lawson April 11, 2016 at 6:02 PM “So SS a whore is not a whore if she is married, odd I think what you are saying is all women are the same…they just give them different names eo you can tell them apart.”

    I said no such thing.

    Please do not put words in my mouth.

    I am quite capable of choosing my own words.

    Thank you.

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  32. Colonel Buggy April 11, 2016 at 10:31 PM #

    Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 2:43 PM #
    Wunna understand that when this talk about prostitution arises they who propose it mean your daughters, wives, granddaughters, and sisters too?
    ………………………………………………………………………………..
    Have you heard the story of the Barbadian Soldier of the Caribbean Regiment, during World War 2 ,who was called up to St Anns Fort to await deployment overseas? He took a walk across to Bush Hill to do some business,and discovered that one of the night vendors was his own wife or woman. He never made it overseas .

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  33. Colonel Buggy April 11, 2016 at 10:42 PM #

    Are we still striving for the Singapore model and all it entails?
    http://sbr.com.sg/leisure-entertainment/commentary/red-light-prostitution-in-singapore

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  34. TheGazer April 11, 2016 at 11:28 PM #

    @SimpleSimon
    A large flaw in your argument is that this type of legislation is supported only by men.
    I would also add that the majority of folks engaged in this activity also support lagalization.

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  35. Simple Simon April 11, 2016 at 11:44 PM #

    @TheGazer April 11, 2016 at 11:28 PM “SimpleSimon…A large flaw in your argument is that this type of legislation is supported only by men.”

    I never said so. I was speaking to the people on this blog who represent themselves as male. I was speaking of the legislators who are largely male. I am aware that this current report on this blog was represented as the work of a feminist scholar. I can see that legalization would permit prostitutes to pay VAT, income taxes and NIS and I can understand that they may enjoy such privileges…

    But I never said that legalization is supported only by men.

    I am well aware that there are male prostitutes, those who service women, and those who service men, and those who service both men and women.

    Simple Simon has not spent the last many decades in a convent.

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  36. Well Well & Consequences April 12, 2016 at 5:32 PM #

    Lol…as the world turns.

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  37. chad99999 April 13, 2016 at 6:19 AM #

    The problem with prostitution is the same problem that we have with promiscuous sex. Always and everywhere it leads to the spread of horrifying diseases that eventually degrade or destroy the ability to reproduce.
    Some social scientists believe that the only reason monogamy became so widely adopted, given the natural human desire for sexual variety, was to limit the damage caused by sexually transmitted disease.
    Today, in North America, about 80% of adult women have HPV, some strains of which cause cancer of the mouth and throat. About 20% have genital herpes, which is incurable.
    This female professor is an idiot and a man-hating feminist. But I repeat myself.

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  38. Well Well & Consequences April 14, 2016 at 6:36 AM #

    Let’s hope this opens properly.

    http://ow.ly/10Ev3z

    Piece….ya dont want to miss out on these proposals, ya girlfriend firing on all cylinders..lol

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  40. coral kisses May 8, 2016 at 9:28 PM #

    Full decriminalization of Sex work needs to happen NOW! I am so angry that in 2015 I am still labeled as a criminal for doing what I want as a consenting adult! why should I be required to go to Nevada & work for someone ie a PIMP! when I am fully capable of working independent! Nevada Brothels need to go in the history books along with old sex laws that treat women as children! I support Amnesty International 100%
    THE NEW ZEALAND MODEL! THEY ACTUALLY LISTEN TO SEX WORKERS!

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