Adrian Loveridge

The Adrian Loveridge Column – Cost of Strike Action and Airplane Cancellations

Grantley Adams International Airport

Grantley Adams International Airport

While I would not dream of depriving any ‘worker’ of their fundamental right to withdraw their labour, in the interest of humanity one has to question the timing. Tourism is mostly about people and how the various contributing players interact with each other. Often the first or last person encountered on a visit can make the difference whether or not that person returns to our shores.

Uncertainty helps create chaos and I wonder if any dollar value has been put on the loss of revenue throughout the industry caused by the short lived but damaging strike action at the airport and seaport on the 24th March.

While Government ultimately controls the ability to settle long standing industrial issues in the public sector, once again it is the private sector and individual travellers who pay the price of inaction or at the very least the tardiness in settling these issues. LIAT alone reportedly cancelled ten flights and while a proportion of passengers will re-book, they cannot fill all those unused seats twice on another day, so the losses are almost unrecoverable.

Likewise the delays impact negatively on the legacy and low cost carriers, where crew timings are often crucial to profitable operation. When an aircraft cost US$100 million or more to purchase or that amount is reflected in lease payments, carriers cannot afford to have inactive planes on the ground or delayed at the point of departure for prolong periods.

I graphically remember a journalist asking one of the largest coach operators in Britain, Len Wright, where he kept all his vehicles, he responded simply ‘on the road’. My wife flew out on that same day and her Thomas Cook aircraft flew down empty from Orlando deliberately delaying departure to arrive after initially announcing a 6pm air traffic control re-commencing time.

In an Airlines for America report, it was estimated that United States carriers alone in 2014 had an average cost per block minute of US$81.18 per plane or a mind boggling US$9,149 million extra cost across their members in that year alone.

For European Union registered airlines there are of course relatively generous compensation payments for passengers experiencing delayed flights of more than three hours, subject to the journey distance which dictates the amount.

As an example a flight from a London airport to Faro in Southern Portugal which is over 1,500 kilometres or 1,000 miles and is delayed more than three hours, the flyer would be eligible for a refund of Euro 400 per person. But this is subject to all sorts of conditions and in this case unless the airlines were aware of a potential air traffic controllers strike, this would not be covered.

Clearly some airlines often quote ‘extraordinary circumstances’ to try and avoid rightful and lawful compensation, but this has only spurred a vast array of companies specialising in obtaining legitimate claims for individuals on a commission basis. Most offer a guarantee of a qualifying rebate on a commission basis or no fee is payable.

As my wife should have been on a Faro bound flight on last Monday and her plane was delayed first by seven hours and then cancelled altogether. This led to two days loss of hotel, a journey across London to another airport, new airline tickets and an overnight Gatwick stay among other unplanned expenditure.

EasyJet the airline involved offered absolutely no assistance other than a GB Pounds 3 ‘refreshment’ voucher, so we are going to ‘challenge the system’ and will report back in a couple of weeks.

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53 Comments on “The Adrian Loveridge Column – Cost of Strike Action and Airplane Cancellations”

  1. David April 4, 2016 at 5:30 AM #

    It seems that the Paradise property aka Four Seasons is back on the radar.

    http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/business/sale-four-seasons-works?

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  2. ac April 4, 2016 at 6:18 AM #

    in as much as i was unhappy about the action taken by the Union ..reason being the impact would have cause severe damage to the nation/s interest . this article also represents an interest of self loathing and really could not give a dam about national interest ,Point being where was AL voice when the Sanitation strike took place if any thing was said it might have been in muted tones

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  3. David April 4, 2016 at 6:26 AM #

    @Adrian

    Mum is the word.Always remember small minds deal with people and NOT issues.

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  4. lawson April 4, 2016 at 6:53 AM #

    BWU making Barbados great again…..sorry….wait again

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  5. David April 4, 2016 at 6:59 AM #

    @lawson

    There is a struggle for position from the unions and the prevailing economic conditions will encourage an unstable industrialization climate. The fact that the government and the trade unions involved have been unable to come to an understanding before taking draconian action speaks volumes about the quality of dialogue between the two and the effectiveness of the mooted social partnership. Last week we heard BSTU also sounding a warning about strike action soon if the SBA matter is not addressed.

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  6. lawson April 4, 2016 at 7:03 AM #

    country first

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  7. Artax April 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM #

    It amazes me when some people express disgust, while shouting “country first,” because public sector employees may have cause to with-hold their labour in protest of an issue that was allowed to fester, to the extent it has an adverse effect/impact on them.

    I have not seen those same individuals write to congratulate those same public sector employees for “putting country first” when they agreed to forfeit salary increases over the past 8 years.

    Especially against the background where a minister of government, DONVILLE INNISS, when asked about a reduction in his salary, is on record as saying he has bills to pay and children to send to university. NOT one word from the yard-fowls in condemnation of Inniss comments, which “represents an interest of SELF LOATHING” and not “giving a damn about national interest.”

    But, I guess this was what David Thompson ACTUALLY MEANT when he launched his “FAMILIES FIRST” initiative.

    The public sector employees made the ultimate sacrifice in placing “COUNTRY FIRST,” when over 10,000 of them were retrenched from the service, with some having to wait almost 1 year before receiving their severance payments, while 3 years after, the former Beautify Barbados and NCC employees are yet to receive their payments.

    But Barbadian tax payers are “saddled” with the LARGEST Cabinet in the history of Barbados, where individuals such as Maxine McClean and Tony Marshall were REWARDED for USING the call-in-programmes to spread DLP propaganda and additional REWARDS of SENATE or AMBASSADOR appointments were given to Patrick Todd, Irene Sandiford-Garner, Harcourt Husbands, Esther Byer, “Jester” Ince and Haynesley Benn as LOSING CANDIDATES in the 2013 general elections.

    Perhaps “lawson” and the AC consortium of yard-fowls could APPEAL to Stuart to put “COUNTRY FIRST” and “trim” his cabinet similarly to how he “trimmed” the civil service.

    And to think I was CONVINCED the DLP’s slogan: “PATHWAYS to PROGRESS” was actually meant for ordinary Barbadians. However, what should I expect when the DLP hierarchy told their supporters that the “fatted calf will be SLAUGHTERED and DIVIDED among the FAITHFUL who stood the course.”

    You are being deceitful and hypocritical in choosing to express sentiments of “patriotism” and “country first” at times when it conveniently suits your political agenda, especially when you have refused to take ALL the FACTS into CONSIDERATION and “turn a blind eye” at the TRUTH.

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  8. ac April 4, 2016 at 8:26 AM #

    What de hell is the above comment has to do with strike action and its impact on the overall stabilty of a nation

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  9. Artax April 4, 2016 at 8:33 AM #

    You have continued to demonstrate that comprehension has never been one of your strong points.

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  10. Bush Tea April 4, 2016 at 8:55 AM #

    Well said again Artax

    While Adrian is as usual factual and on point with his article, he continues to demonstrate the albino-centric way of thinking…that what comes first is the COST….. everything else is secondary.
    Nowhere in his well researched paper does he address the question of JUSTICE, or RIGHTS or of the ongoing sacrifice by the workers caused by governments failure to honour a commitment.

    There are some personalities that do very well with this way of thinking. The USA famously went to Iraq and killed hundreds of thousands of people – including many of their own soldiers – based on the presumption that they would be welcomed and invited to share in unlimited oil resources. The Europeans dutifully exploited black slavery for FOUR CENTURIES …until it was no longer profitable ..and accumulate much of the world’s wealth in Europe as a result…

    We are not of that ilk…. WE JUST CANNOT MAKE THAT GRADE….

    Our ‘way’ is the way of COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT……of RIGHT outdoing MIGHT …… of doing what is FAIR …even if it cost more….
    Brass bowlery is playing a game of cricket using football rules…

    Bushie respects Adrian’s logic – it works for him, but cat luck will NEVER be dog luck….

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  11. David April 4, 2016 at 9:39 AM #

    @Bush Tea

    Is it not correct to say that Adrian is within his right to represent his interest as a tourism stakeholder? A functioning society will always have competing interest, it is up to all stakeholders to advocate their concerns and allow the management / leadership systems to work.

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  12. Bush Tea April 4, 2016 at 10:03 AM #

    @ David
    Of COURSE Adrian is within his right – and he does it professionally and with class.
    Bushie was just highlighting the difference between ‘materialistic’ and ‘community-centric’ perspectives.
    Do you not yet understand why he will always be frustrated with the local brass bowl leadership? while he genuinely focuses on efficiency and growth, THEY are more interested in image and show… therefore their focus is on sharing the fatted calf as they go about trying to look like their materialistic idols..

    No problem whatsoever with AL….
    Bushie’s problems are ALL with the brass bowl copy cats …who are trying to be ‘material moguls’ when they have NO SKILLS in that game…

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  13. David April 4, 2016 at 10:10 AM #

    The time is coming soon Bushie, do not despair. You are correct in an earlier comment that there is a rising tide…

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  14. Artax April 4, 2016 at 10:29 AM #

    Whenever the “employee” uses resources available to him/her for his/her advantage, someone always cry “foul.” We need to look at the bigger picture and take human nature into consideration. There is only so much any individual is willing to sacrifice.

    Okay, Customs Officers, Air Traffic Controllers and GAIA employees have a grievance with NONPAYMENT of MONEY LEGALLY DUE to them, which their employer seems adamant in not willing to resolve amicably. These employees, through their bargaining agents (i.e. unions) have staged protest action by with-holding their labour.

    While government CONTINUES (without difficulty) to SUBSIDIZE LIAT, when the governments of other Caribbean islands REFUSE to INVEST in that airline, yet reap BENEFITS)……..

    …………these same employees who have had to SURVIVE high cost of living/inflation without salary/wages increases for 8 years; additional taxes and an increase in current taxes; whose children had to “drop out” of UWI; their former colleagues indebted to banks, mortgage and finance companies…….

    ………..are now being asked to put “country first” because LIAT had to CANCEL a few flights and incurred “almost unrecoverable losses.”

    We recently had a situation where board members of the NIS were given increases in their stipends. The protagonists and yard-fowls said the members were DESERVING of this 300% INCREASE because they UNDERTAKE the IMPORTANT job of managing a multi-million dollar NIS fund.

    Ironically, the JOBS of Air Traffic Control, Customs and GAIA employees are REMEMBERED and RECOGNIZED as being IMPORTANT to the MANAGEMENT and DEVELOPMENT of Barbados’ multi-million dollar Tourism Industry, ONLY at times of labour disputes.

    This DLP administration has given Sandals 40 years’ tax free concession, during which time Barbados has to forfeit potential tax revenue that is important to the island, especially during this period of austerity. Ultimately, Barbadians have to “make up for the short fall” through increased taxes, retrenchment and additional austerity measures.

    Under these circumstances and those of insignificant economic growth, credit rating downgrades and a large fiscal deficit, perhaps SIMILARLY to how ordinary Barbadians a BEING ASKED to put “COUNTRY FIRST,” Butch Stewart could be CONVINCED to do LIKEWISE, whereby he WAIVES all rights to the concessions, at LEAST UNTIL Barbados BEGINS to experience ECONOMIC GROWTH once more.

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  15. pieceuhderockyeahright April 4, 2016 at 10:32 AM #

    Some years ago, a commenter here, and de ole man, spent 3 hours in a plane circling an airport because of smog.

    3 hours circling while de ole man was wondering, dis plane got dat much gas? whu gine happen effing we run outta Esso?

    Suppose one uh dem planes coming to Barbados was on its last tank of gas? Ooops dem doan use gas does dem, airline fuel.

    On the one hand, it is my feeling that essential services like airport firemen, policemen and the Barbados Defence Force fellows who growing fat in Needlehams Point, should not be allowed to strike, but what can peeple, under pernicious rule of so-called “law”, do to get what is rightfully theirs?

    As a policeman, fireman of soldier can i have a proxy mechanism where instead of me striking, the union gets someone else to strike in my stead? And who will that proxy be? teachers? Sorry dem is Redman peeple.

    So say that the asbestos at Oistins police station has killed (nearly said kilt but i remember what FearPlay told me) about 4 of my colleagues, how do I, after writing 50 letters to the PS and the minister, how do i get them to understand that I am dying and just like the next fellow, I don’t want to die of Asbestosis?

    It is alright for Adrian Loveridge to talk his pup cause he has a hotel that is generating millions of dollars over the time he has been resident here but, barring the officers at the RBPF and the Coast Guard working for the drug lords and getting kick backs and augmenting their monthly incomes, alot of these essential services workers are living from paycheck to paycheck, while the cost of living getting higher.

    It does not ceas to amaze me why it is that in the face of such obvious mismanagement of the resources of government by the DLP, Adrian and his colleagues, with all their ideas about how to spend government resources to advance his hotel and theirs, cant gang together as they do, and get $10 million to pay out two of these ministers and cause a general election in 2016..

    He just talking cause he got a mouth and, as far as “skin in the game” and his commitment to this island that has been his home for 30 plus years, as you have said Blogmaster, Loveridge and his group. is/are only prepared to go thus far, and no further

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  16. ac April 4, 2016 at 12:52 PM #

    The nations interest should be all of society interest especially of those who always have cup in hand begging for more.
    Not only a those having a voice of self interest that awakens in times if adversity

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  17. Artax April 4, 2016 at 3:21 PM #

    You are on record as having often described business owners who seek concessions or special privileges from government, as “those who always have cup in hand begging for more.”

    Since you have essentially ADMITTED that: “The nation’s interest should be all of society’s interest, especially of those who always have cup in hand begging for more,” then surely you have AGREED that “the nation’s interest” should be that of BUSINESSMAN Butch Stewart as well.

    Hence, you could use this FORUM or when you are at George Street gatherings, to ask Richard, Irene, Chris and other Cabinet members, if they could not CONTEMPLATE the FOLLY in giving Stewart 40 years of tax free concessions, without any PREREQUISITE STIPULATIONS or CONDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

    Under the current economic conditions, Old Brigand, ESAF, Mount Gay or Cockspur should the FIRST CHOICE rums at Sandals, instead of Appleton Jamaican rum.

    Not only is he able to IMPORT Appleton Jamaican rum DUTY FREE, he is also able to PROMOTE and SELL that brand CHEAPER than OTHER brands in his hotels, at the EXPENSE of Barbadians.

    However, if SACRIFICING Barbadian jobs, products or potential revenue to the detriment of the Barbados’ economy, is their way of “putting country first,” then I would hate to be living in this island if they ever decide to “put country last.”

    Whose self interest is being satisfied?

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  18. ac April 4, 2016 at 8:36 PM #

    ok since you want to rumble about self interest m then let me put it this way Sandals selling appleton rum according to you put barbados interest last
    Now answer this the BLP selling Barbados as doom and gloom put whose interest first ?

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  19. Artax April 5, 2016 at 12:10 AM #

    I wrote in a previous post that comprehension has never been one of your strong points.

    Perhaps you are CONVENIENTLY FORGETTING that Moody’s or Standard & Poor’s DOWNGRADES of Barbados’ credit rating ARE NOT based on ANALYSING BLP POLITICAL RHETORIC, but on this DLP administration’s ECONOMIC POLICIES.

    It is also interesting to note that after Sinckler REBUKED Marla Dukharan and dismissed her assessment of the Barbados economy as pure folly, the island suffered ANOTHER credit rating downgrade.

    Under Sinckler’s watch as MoF, between 2009 and 2016, Barbados RECEIVED about NINE (9) credit rating downgrades. CONSISTENT downgrades and negative outlooks often RESULT in “doom and gloom.” Perhaps the BLP is calling it as they see it.

    “Now YOU should answer this,” who is actually “selling Barbados as doom and gloom?”

    Taking CONSISTENT FAILURES into consideration, any reasonable MoF would have ADMITTED he is a FAILURE and RESIGNED. However, an ARROGANT and BOMBASTIC Sinckler is ADAMANT he is CORRECT, while everyone else is INCORRECT.

    Under these circumstances, Sinckler refusing to resign “puts whose interest first?”

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  20. ac April 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM #

    steupse! oh please!

    what you have written is ust another piece of political propaganda Moodys is a analytical and statistical financial rating agency that reviews , rates, and gives recommendations to countries for their fiscal planning in managing their debt
    The Moodys latest assessment was not based on political propaganda or doom and gloom but was buttress against those markers with specific attention given where necessary to reduce the debt along with giving a favorable outlook upward to a stabie economic performance
    the BLP on the other hand has never made any formidable or forth coming solutions but has for the past seven years contain and continued on a campaign of derogation influenced by a need to win elections
    your above comment has all but ensure that the campaign of doom and gloom would remain high as a priority on the blp list even in the face of what positives that was given in the moody/s report
    which begs the question whose interest is the blp party putting first is it the country/s or their need to win an election driven by their own self interest
    Putting everything in its true and realistic perspective yes more can be done to bring the debt down as Sinckler has said during the .budget .However the long over drawn drumbeat of doom and gloom does nothing to help but is an intentioal and self serving attack on the countries national interest driven by Mia Mottley and her crew
    Comparing Moodys non political assessment to Mottley displayed of self interest should be punishable by laughter

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  21. Artax April 5, 2016 at 10:28 AM #

    I have “told you” time and time again that COMPREHENSION is NOT one of your “strong points,” but I must add that your contribution, in the words of your leader, DEMONSTRATES your “MONSTROUS PERVERSION of COMMON SENSE.”

    Okay, you wrote that Moody’s “gives recommendations to countries for their fiscal planning in managing their debt.” Surely even you must agree that Moody’s has consistently downgraded Barbados’ credit rating BASED on a SIMILAR ASSESSMENTS each time.

    However, over the past eight years, EVERY ECONOMIC POLICY INTRODUCED by this SHIITE BUCKET administration has been UNSUCCESSFUL in REDUCING the DEFICIT, STABILIZING the economy and FUELLING economic growth, while the debt continues to INCREASE (the SINCERE one of the consortium of Dr. David Estwicks would attest to this). The Governor of the Central Bank, for example, ADMITTED the much TOUTED Medium Term Development and Medium Term Fiscal Strategies FAILED to ACHIEVE the DESIRED OBJECTIVES (after Sinckler said they were “working).”

    This clearly INDICATES the DEMS are NOT USING Moody’s recommendations.

    So far, Dr. Mascoll’s and Ryan Straughn’s outlook on the economy, based on current economic variables, have been “spot on.” Even the new BEC’s president, Jeremy Stephen made similar assessments, only to be labeled a BLP and “preacher of doom and gloom.” Recently, economist Marla Dukharan drew the wrath of the ARROGANT and BOMBASTIC Sinckler when she dared to analyze the economy and offer suggestions. But we all know Sinckler is INTIMIDATED by women, and in his fear he lashes out at them quite brutally (ask June Fowler).

    Hence, what we have is Sinckler (who is not an economist) who, in the face of consistent failure, is ADAMANT he is CORRECT, while assessments on the economy made by World Bank, IMF, Moody’s, Standard & Poor’s, CDB, Marla Dukharan and every other independent economist are incorrect, BLP supporters and preachers of doom and gloom.

    Based on the above examples and the DEMS’ history of NOT LISTENING to others, why should the BLP “make any formidable or forth coming solutions?”

    As revealed by the IMF, this administration is on record as MANIPULATING economic data to give Barbadians the impression the economy is growing. An example of this DISHONESTY was when the Worrell REFUSED to use the Statistical Service’s unemployment figures and COMPILED his own stats, which were LOWER. Unfortunately for him and the DEMS, the IMF took FAVOUR with BSS figures.

    Surely, these actions are demonstrative of a LIMPING and SCARED DLP “party putting first their need to win an election driven by their own self interest.”

    However, this article is about tourism. What you or Douglas could do is submit an article to BU based on Barbados’s economic performance during the past 8 years, and we can take the discussion from there.

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  22. ac April 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM #

    barbados an island with limited resources dependable mostly on tourism cannot implement the draconian recommendations at a speed of high expectancy that Moodys and IMF would like to see happen.
    It would become a socio economic night mare.seeing the deficit go down would be good but the social cost must also be factored
    Even the blp prophets of doom and gloom can figure that out.
    Btw my understanding of your comments have been your attempt to draw a fiscal deficit line in the sand using political doom and gloom as arush to judgement trying to present govt policies as total failures even your consyant attempt of accusing the MOF the gov and the PM as liars only serves to put a wedge and division amongst tge populace..Never mind the other areas of the economy which has begun to show signs of recovery and stabilityvattributed to govt policies resulting in the creation of jobs
    If high defecit was the only real concern upon which govt can be acessed for good economic performance then the great countries of therld would not stand a chance of future survival in hard and fluctuating global enviroments
    The rall order of the day is that of the blp trying to educate the populace about high deficit as most people only care about pocket book issues that affect their daily livlihood and if they have jobs food on the table nothing else matter and for those reasons alone the govt might be slow in implementing harsh measures with expediency to bring down the deficit

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  23. Artax April 5, 2016 at 4:40 PM #

    Asking you to IDENTIFY “the other areas of the economy which has begun to show signs of recovery and stability attributed to govt policies resulting in the creation of jobs,” will only be met with another set of generalized, rhetorical political statements.

    On one hand you are SUGGESTING that, “Barbados (is) an island with limited resources, dependable mostly on tourism, cannot IMPLEMENT the draconian recommendations at a SPEED of HIGH EXPECTANCY that Moody’s and IMF would like to see happen.”

    While on the other hand, you are IMPLYING the reasons why “government might be SLOW in IMPLEMENTING harsh measures with EXPEDIENCY to bring DOWN the DEFICIT,” is BECAUSE most people only care about pocket book issues that affect their daily livelihood and if they have jobs food on the table nothing else matter.”

    My friend this is not only CONTRADICTORY to your previous statement, but LUDICROUS and “should be punishable by laughter.”

    Your comment re: “If high deficit was the only real concern upon which govt can be accessed for good economic performance then the great countries of the (world) would not stand a chance of future survival in hard and fluctuating global environments,” is indicative of one who is not versed in the theory of economics, but one who has incorrectly regurgitated what was told to them.

    Firstly, you stated that “Barbados (is) an island with limited resources,” and as such you cannot compare this island with “great countries of the world” because, though the circumstances may appear to be similar, the economic VARIABLES are different.

    A deficit requires an increase in borrowing, for which they are two main sources, the Central Bank and the private sector of the economy (financial institutions, firms and households). The government has been financing the deficit by borrowing from the private sector through issuing of bonds, the NIS fund and the printing of money by the Central Bank.

    For example, whereas Barbados has to BORROW to FINANCE and SUBSIDIZE social services, through transfers and subsidies, citizens of the “great countries of the world” have to PAY MARKET PRICES for transport, health care, housing, education and many other services we receive “free.”

    What we have in Barbados is an administration that has developed policies to realize its own political objectives, analogous to those of firms and households. In other words, households seek to maximize their utility, firms seek to maximize profits, while this administration seeks to maximize the votes they receive in the next election [vote maximization].

    I am disappointed that contributors to BU are more interested in Donald Trump and other such “parochial” issues, which often attracts over 200 contributions, rather than engage in “discussions” about the Barbados economy.

    By different contributors presenting varying “economic” perspectives, would make the “discussion” much more interesting, than if one person presents a myopic political view in defense of the DLP, and another trying to present a view based on economic theory.

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  24. pieceuhderockyeahright April 5, 2016 at 5:03 PM #

    @ Artaxerxes

    In all fairness to BU contributors who are attracted t the madman Trump, you should know that, were it not for the fact that you were here countering the idiocy of Legion, many would not come to see the varied yet similar posts of hotelier Adrian Loveridge.

    How would a fellah know that under a topic about airplane cancellations and how he wife had was to catch another plane, and had was to incur some unplanned expenses for her alternative ticket, that you would be here in a death battle with one of the Legion of the Damned?

    Whu after all Artaxerxes, you is a big economics polemicist of the High Order of Melchizedek and to find a follower of Malki Tzedek in the back alleys, figuratively speaking, conversing with the “challenged” 3/5 ths is akin to Hawkins discussing scatology.

    But I was told by Brother Bush Tea that April Fool’s day commences “Be Kind to Animals Month” so I guess every man must do his duty, and it is here that you have decided to do yours.

    You ent even notice that Adrain Loveridge does post these subject and, like David Come Sing a Song, does doan come back tuh he vomit?

    When a writer does that to his own topics you should be watchful, irrespective of what it says, you hear me Artax?

    It speaks to the measure of the man when after making all pretensions, he abdicates that which he pledged to support, whu you tink??

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  25. Bush Tea April 5, 2016 at 5:09 PM #

    @ Artax
    …all you manage to do is give Bushie (and some other BU family members) the unfounded impression that ac finally said something worthwhile ..to which you feel a reply is needed….

    OK ….so we read your ‘response’ to ac – which as usual is lucid and logical …and then rush to see this great change that has come about from ac ……
    ONLY TO SEE THE SAME COW PUPP!!

    Man Artax … stop ffing with BU family members man!!!
    If you are trying to get us to read AC’s drivel … just say so….
    so that we can openly cuss you too…
    …but this underhanded approach is REALLY below the belt…

    If Bushie did not know better the bushman would say that you have been drinking something that you are meant to ‘rub’ with….
    Either that …or ac worked a little OBEAH on your computer….
    You may need a bush bath skippa…🙂

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  26. Artax April 5, 2016 at 5:11 PM #

    @ PUDRYR

    Another excellent contribution.

    I have to agree with your comments.

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  27. Artax April 5, 2016 at 5:17 PM #

    @ Bushie

    No, Bushie, doan cuss muh.

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  28. ac April 5, 2016 at 5:43 PM #

    my question Artax to you! How much of barbados burdening debt can be attributed to the BLP policies

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  29. Artax April 5, 2016 at 10:43 PM #

    “My question Artax to you! How much of Barbados burdening debt can be attributed to the BLP policies?”

    NONE!!!!!!!

    AND I CHALLENGE YOU TO LIST ANY!!!

    The BLP was VOTED OUT of office on January 15, 2008, approximately 8 years, 2 months and 21 days ago.

    Rather than continue to BLAME the BLP, global economic recession, “prophets of doom and gloom,” “Sam Couch and the Duppy,” or even my friend on the “Cream of Wheat” box, it is about time you and the DLP realize that you have held office for 8 years, ACCEPT that Chris Sinckler is an INCOMPETENT Minister of Finance and ADMIT the DEMS are RESPONSIBLE for this island’s economic misfortunes, high fiscal deficit, large debt to GDP and lack of investor confidence.

    After 8 years not only have Barbadians had enough of your “blame game” nonsense, MORE IMPORTANTLY, they are FED UP of the Democratic Labour Party.

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  30. ac April 6, 2016 at 5:19 AM #

    Really did not expect you to respond be that as it may i close my case
    but just in case you want to do research you can read many of the auditor general reports which list of many of the unnecessary spending attributed to cost that have been and some of which have been unaccounted during the blp reign not thousands of dollars but millions all of which adds up to loss revenue and which now serves as evidence as part of the deficit included in barbados revenue
    you are just another yardfowl extraordinaire with your head buried in the sand

    have a nice day yardie

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  31. Artax April 6, 2016 at 7:00 AM #

    And I bet you felt COCKY writing “read many of the Auditor General Reports.” My STUPID friend, the Auditor General Reports DO NOT analyse or explain ECONOMIC POLICIES, so asking me to READ those reports to find out “How much of Barbados’ burdening debt can be attributed to the BLP policies” is ludicrous.

    Let’s examine funds that remain “unaccounted during the DLP’s reign, not thousands of dollars, but millions all of which adds up to loss revenue.”

    The following excerpts were taken from pages 26 to 30 of the Auditor General’s 2014 report:

    “The Financial Management and Audit Act, 2007-11, Section 35 requires that any loans made by Government shall be approved from a capital contribution by Parliament for that purpose. The Act also requires that these advances be secured by way of debenture mortgages, the terms of which should be determined by the Cabinet.”

    There were a number of advances for the financial year(2013 – 2014) for which there was no evidence that they were made from any capital appropriation. Examples are as follows:

    ……. A sum of $11.8 million was advanced to BTII under the Urban Development Project.

    ……. An advance of $1.2 million was made to the Barbados Agricultural Management Company.

    There was no EVIDENCE that these advances were VOTED by Parliament. It should also be noted that these entities are wholly owned by the Crown and HAVE LITTLE or NO MEANS of generating income to REPAY these advances.

    BTII Urban Development Project …………………… $18,757,808.46
    Barbados Agricultural Management Co. …………. $58,635,015.70
    National Housing Corporation ………………………$87,945,336.13
    Queen Elizabeth Hospital …………………………….$26,754,113.97
    BMC Loan ………………………………………………… $7,500,000.00
    Advances to Rural Development Com. ……………… $6,400,000.00
    Advances Urban Development Com. ……………….. $1,600,000.00

    A loan receivable in the amount of $2,000,000.00 was made to Southern Golf on September 25, 2009. No loan agreement was entered into by the parties and no REPAYMENTS or INTEREST were RECEIVED from Southern Golf to date.

    Loan to Clearwater Bay: The Government of Barbados GUARANTEED a loan for $120,000,000.00 in respect of the Four Seasons Development project during the financial year 2011-2012. This guaranteed debt was called during the financial year 2013-2014 by the lenders. As Government had guaranteed the debt, an amount of $124,329,766.00 which entailed principal plus interest was paid through its company Clearwater Bay.

    Durette & Co. Caribbean Limited: During the financial year 2009-2010 amounts totaling $950,000.00 were loaned to Durette & Co. (Caribbean) Ltd from the now defunct Public Enterprise Investment Fund. This loan has not been brought to account to date by the Treasury.

    The unaccounted funds listed above, for financial year 2013/2014, amounts to $347,872,040.26. And I have only included one section of this report.

    You have conveniently forgotten that the National Housing Corporation is YET to ACCOUNT for the over $40M RECEIVED in MONTHLY ADVANCES from the Ministry of Finance WITHOUT parliamentary approval. And in an effort to have this money remain “unaccounted,” the idiot you have as a PM repealed the PAC Act.

    You need to understand that, through his reports over the years, the Auditor General has highlighted a number of financial irregularities perpetrated by both BLP and DLP administrations.

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  32. ac April 6, 2016 at 9:32 AM #

    Now go and find the auditor general reports for the blp 14 year reign and do a deep analyse of all the monies unaccounted for and paid projects that were not delivered. you are trying to hood winked by deploying actions to show one side of the story again you are indeed a bigger yardfowl than i belive
    But wheel and come again bro those numbers tell a part of a story . go find the first part.bro

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  33. Artax April 6, 2016 at 11:34 AM #

    Once again you have displayed your ignorance. If you are the best the DLP could find to represent them on BU….. but then again, we have Sinckler as minister of finance, Stuart as prime minister and Jester Ince… you fit “hand in glove.”

    You are trying, in vain, to convince BU that on September 7, 1994, one day after the 1994 general elections, the BLP inherited from the former Sandiford administration:

    …… Revenue surplus
    …… Adequate amount of foreign reserves
    …… Debt balance = zero
    …… Low cost of living and inflation
    …… Low levels of unemployment

    Barbados is on record as having run a high deficit since the late 1960s. And for you to confine Barbados’ debt to September 1994 to January 15, 2008, is ludicrous.

    Obviously, successive governments would have borrowed funds during their tenure. This does not mean the debt is confined to that specific administration. It is Barbados’ debt, not BLP debt or DLP debt.

    This debt would have accumulated over time, especially taking the repayment periods into consideration.

    When that specific administration demits office, the incoming administration will have to make sure outstanding commitments are paid. This is one of the reasons the term “Government is a continuum” is used to describe such activities.

    What you should concern yourself with is the fact that this Damn Laying Party (DLP) has borrowed unprecedented sums of money during the past 8 years (and Stinkliar said they only borrowed three times). And it is a FACT that you liars BORROWED MORE MONEY WITHIN FIVE YEARS than the previous BLP administration DID IN THE 14 YEARS you always allude to.

    You liars are arguing that the borrowing was to pay off loans incurred by the previous BLP administration. However, if you want to present that argument, you must take into consideration ALL the ACCUMULATED BALANCES of loans incurred by previous administrations that remain “on the books.” If not, the previous loans would remain outstanding resulting in DEFAULT due to non-payments.

    During this “discussion” you moved from writing that Barbados’ economy could be compared to that of “great countries in the world, to the BLP policies are responsible for the debt to the Auditor General’s reports having information pertaining, to economic policies and debt. You continue to move the goal post, while and I kept on scoring.

    Look, AC, I don’t have anything better to do at this time, reason why I am entertaining you. You come to BU with the rhetorical political diatribe you hear being discussed at George Street, and try to pass it off as FACT. You write a whole set of generalized comments so as not to commit yourself to writing anything specific, which would definitely come back to bite you in your body (I said body because you are an “ass).”

    The AC consortium of yard-fowls…. “(Strange) Encounters of the (Worst) Kind.”

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  34. Artax April 6, 2016 at 11:37 AM #

    Ohh, yes, if in your opinion I’m a bigger yard-fowl than you believe, at least I am an intelligent yard-fowl (unlike you).

    Shiite, after all dem licks I gih yuh, yuh gine tek a break from BU, or wuh?

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  35. ac April 6, 2016 at 1:04 PM #

    Ok convince yuhself like you say you got nothing better to do. Still not answer the question. Did the past blp administration contribute to the national debt?
    Better you steupse and guh long than tell a lie.
    Btw i got plenty to do so i leave you to figure the question out

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  36. Artax April 6, 2016 at 2:28 PM #

    ac April 6, 2016 at 1:04 PM #

    “Did the past blp administration contribute to the national debt?”

    You have once again demonstrated that comprehension is far from being one of your strong points. Here you go again, creating straw men to knock them down.

    “Artax April 6, 2016 at 11:34 AM #: Obviously, successive governments would have borrowed funds during their tenure. This does not mean the debt is confined to that specific administration. It is Barbados’ debt, not BLP debt or DLP debt.”

    Perhaps you could get Darcy Boyce to interpret my above comments.

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  37. Artax April 6, 2016 at 3:05 PM #

    You “got plenty to do”…… you mean like the large, FICTITIOUS company you are supposedly “managing” and “administrating?”

    Oh yeah, that’s right…….. DLP Propaganda Inc.

    I now see the reason why you are on BU so often. It’s because your job requires you to read BU, defend the DLP, cuss contributors you perceive to be BLP supporters and post DLP propaganda shiite.

    I hope you getting pay outta DLP subscriptions and not from de Treasury.

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  38. ac April 7, 2016 at 6:25 AM #

    Successive govts borrowed except the past blp administration RIGHT? who borrowed and wasted like money grew on trees and who also had promised to save for a rainy day and never did right
    As i said before check the auditor generals report on the past administration and i dare you to post the numerous wastage reported of taxpayers monies in the report
    Moreover that is reason why i stopped support of the BLP . Yes i was a die hard supporter of the blp but when i read the level of incompetency i said NEVER AGAIN
    That would be forever the hang mans noose around the BLP neck.
    Now you can squabble and argue about the DLP necessity to bring down the deficit but on the other side debt accumulation did not start when this administration started office . Now how convenient it is for the BLP operatives to stand on the side lines like Pontius Pilate and declared i wash my hands of this crime,BTW i heard OSA with his usual talking points of selling assets to bring down the debt “fire SALE” what u think?

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  39. David April 7, 2016 at 7:24 AM #

    The Barbados Chamber of Commerce responds to Moody’s latest downgrade. Has the MoF responded?

    http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2016/04/07/opposition-agrees-to-private-sector-remedy/?

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  40. ac April 7, 2016 at 8:11 AM #

    Yeah but what has some in the private sector done in expansion of their product to promote job creation. Talk is cheap crticism comes a dime a dozen. Many in the private sector have been participants to the fatted calf on the receiving end with promises of doing more and afterwards resigning themselves to a lackadiscal attitude waiting for govt to fill in the missing gaps for growth and job creation
    If private sector believes that they are entitled to huge lump sums of taxpayers money then it is only fair that private sector takes a hands on approach in helping to build the economy in formidable and substantial ways.
    To whom much is given much is expected. A reality that seems to be forgotten in the private sector and a reality check the private sector need to be reminded

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  41. David April 7, 2016 at 8:19 AM #

    For a country to prosper there must be the recognition that there is only one sector.

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  42. ac April 7, 2016 at 9:53 AM #

    Govts all over the world grant concessions and give private sector special privileges as social and economic partners in building their economies. Isnt that so?

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  43. Due Diligence April 7, 2016 at 10:23 AM #

    David April 7, 2016 at 7:24 AM #

    The Barbados Chamber of Commerce responds to Moody’s latest downgrade. Has the MoF responded?

    On his behalf, let me just say that Moodys latest downgrade is rubbish, garbage and trash worthy of being hauled away by SSA,

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  44. David April 7, 2016 at 10:41 AM #

    Thanks DD, this is possibly how they will respond.

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  45. ac April 7, 2016 at 11:19 AM #

    What should the MOF say.. The boldness of the private sector to complain only raises a questionable red flag against them which reinforces a public highly plausible suspicion of what little efforts of perfomance the private sector has offered!presented and done through out the years in helping to aid barbados out of economic turmoil.well of course there are a few excpectations

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  46. Artax April 7, 2016 at 12:36 PM #

    “Yes i was a die hard supporter of the blp but when i read the level of incompetency i said NEVER AGAIN….”

    Shiite, and NOW you are a DIEHARD SUPPORTER of this INCOMPETENT lot. This shows a lot about your character. Your writing, language, reasoning and comprehension skills are extremely poor and accurately indicate the reason why you so readily EMBRACE INCOMPETENCY.

    Anyhow, I DO NOT BELIEVE you were EVER a supporter of the BLP, because if you were, you WOULD have SIMILARLY “frowned” upon the LEVELS of INCOMPETENCY DISPLAYED by MEMBERS of this DLP administration, as well as the issues of corruption, rather than vehemently DEFEND them at all costs, even to the extent that you are known throughout Barbados as BU’s “resident yard-fowl clown.”

    What you “die hard DLP yard-fowls” need to REMEMBER is the BLP PAID the ULTIMATE PRICE for their CRIMES by being VOTED OUT of OFFICE on January 15, 2008.

    Barbadians would have known the DLP was serious about good governance, if they had INVESTIGATED the corruption and brought corrupt former BLP ministers before the law courts, rather than continuing to level, in INNUENDO, instances of corruption perpetrated by the former BLP administration.

    Unlike you and the DLP, I REFUSE to be “stuck in the past” and continue referring to the idiosyncrasies of the former BLP administration. THEY NO LONGER HOLD THE REINS OF GOVERNMENT.

    Our ATTENTION should NOW be FOCUSED on the PERFORMANCE of this PRESENT DLP administration, especially against the background of their PROMISE of GOOD GOVERNANCE.

    Remember, the DLP DEDICATED three pages (46 – 48) of their 2008 general election manifesto to highlight the INTRICACIES of “GOOD GOVERNANCE” and ARTICULATED promises to “clean up” politics; immediately introduce ITAL; have politicians declare their assets and sign a code of good conduct; adhere to the Auditor General’s recommendations; minimize corruption; transparency and accountability, just to mention a few.

    Eight years on, we have NOT seen ANY CHANGES. SIMILAR ACCUSATIONS of corruption, incompetence, dishonesty, untruthfulness, greed, arrogance, and being ADAMANT are ALSO being perpetrated by this DLP administration.

    And their “attitude to accountability is not BASED on the UNDERSTANDING that as SERVANTS and REPRESENTATIVES of the people, there can be no SECRETS or MATTERS to be HIDDEN from the POPULATION.”

    In 2016, the STATUS QUO REMAINS the SAME………the only DIFFERENCE being the “ACTORS” now WEAR YELLOW.

    Perhaps the DEMS’ interpretation of “government is a continuum” is to continue engaging in these activities.

    I WILL NEVER BE A SUPPORTER OF ANY POLITICAL PARTY.

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  47. Artax April 7, 2016 at 12:42 PM #

    You need to be also reminded that this DLP administration borrowed more money than any other administration in the history of Barbados, and even more than the BLP did during their 14 year tenure.

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  48. ac April 7, 2016 at 1:01 PM #

    There is nothing wrong with borrowing if it is put to good use and beneficial to the stablisation of an economy activating significant dividends long term.
    The problem arises when govts spend more than is necessary on projects that become counterproductive which when applies to the debt all but shows a negative and can be categorized as wasted or nonperforming debt.
    There is significant evidence presented by the auditor generals report of proof that under the last blp administration millions of dollars in wasted monies was not accounted for.
    Such money could and should have been helpful in sustaining barbados economy if it was well spent
    Anothet reason i said enough was enough with the blp never again

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  49. Artax April 7, 2016 at 1:27 PM #

    The Auditor General’s reports HIGHLIGHTING WASTAGE of public funds is NOT UNIQUE to ONE PARTICULAR POLITICAL PARTY, (the BLP) as you would want us to believe. WASTAGE of PUBLIC FUNDS has been SYNONYMOUS CHARACTERISTIC with SUCCESSIVE BLP and DLP administrations.

    But you are REFUSING to ACCEPT that “there is (similar) SIGNIFICANT EVIDENCE presented by the Auditor General’s report, of proof that, under (this DLP administration), millions of dollars in wasted monies was not accounted for” as well. Similarly, “such money could and should have been helpful in sustaining Barbados’ economy if it was well spent.”

    SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT EXACTLY?

    How on one hand you could CONDEMN one party for “wasting money,” but PRAISE another party for ENGAGING in a similar ACTIVITY?

    The only SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN the BLP and DLP is that the BEES’ colour is RED, while the DEMS’ colour is YELLOW.

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  50. Artax April 7, 2016 at 1:41 PM #

    “Another reason i said enough was enough with the blp never again”

    I hope you are WILLING to ACCEPT that, on a DAILY BASIS, NUMEROUS Barbadians are EXPRESSING SIMILAR SENTIMENTS as it relates to this DLP administration.

    The reality is the DLP is the current governing administration and not the BLP.

    Rather than focusing on what the BLP did previously and was punished for, perhaps, WITHOUT YOUR USUAL GENERALIZED STATEMENTS, I challenge you to LIST the ACHIEVEMENTS or BENEFITS that were REALIZED/DERIVED as a result of the funds this DLP administration borrowed.

    I won’t hold my breath in anticipation of your response.

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  51. ac April 7, 2016 at 2:19 PM #

    Help pay down some of the balloning debt for projects like. Her Msjesty Prison. Kensington oval.. Barrack.. and the BWA long decay of mis water mangement projects and the now long over due payments to the BWU workers which would be included as part of the defecit
    Not to mention gems .crabhill.and the solar nigerian water heaters which was never delivered the BNOC debt all part of the defecit.accumulated under the blp.and a significant amount of smaller loans and monies towards inventory is added to the debt which were outsanding and never received or paid

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  52. ac April 8, 2016 at 8:28 AM #

    Btw out of all the hotels in Barbados Sandals was the only one that place an ad in local newspaper to congratulate the West Indies cricketers on their wins
    Now that is what one can call first class .on the face of every negative said about Sandals the management consistently steps up to the plate with servings placed towards the national interest of this country.

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