Denis Lowe, minister of the environment

Caveat Emptor: The Lowe-Down Cost

Submitted by Heather Cole
L-R): Edison Alleyne (Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Environment), Margot Harvey (Chairman, Sanitation Service Authority), Dr Denis Lowe (Minister of Environment), Clare Cowan (CEO of Cahill Energy), Christopher Sinckler (Minister of Finance and Economic Affairs), Denis Kellman (Minister of Housing, Lands and Rural Development), Senator Darcy Boyce (Minister of Energy in the Office of the Prime Minister)

L-R): Edison Alleyne (Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Environment), Margot Harvey (Chairman, Sanitation Service Authority), Dr Denis Lowe (Minister of Environment), Clare Cowan (CEO of Cahill Energy), Christopher Sinckler (Minister of Finance and Economic Affairs), Denis Kellman (Minister of Housing, Lands and Rural Development), Senator Darcy Boyce (Minister of Energy in the Office of the Prime Minister)

 

Barbados is in dire need of a solution to its waste management problem and a sound environmental preservation plan. A statement that was carried in the press by the Minister of the Environment Denis Lowe during his delivery for the SSA (Amendment) Bill 2016, showed that he was no nearer to providing a solution to these problem than his party was eight years ago when it came into office. All pleas to the Minister and the Government have fallen on deaf ears to introduce a national programme to reduce, reuse and recycle. Minister Denis Lowe is bent on building a Plasma Gasification Plant as a solution to garbage disposal. He was also quoted as saying that “it will cost the taxpayers no money” as well as “the government has not spent a cent and is not expected to spend a cent.”

One may recall all too well that the Cahill Memorandum of Understanding along with the financial documents were leaked to BU and are still available to be read in this forum.. The information captured in those documents was to the effect that investors were to be responsible for the building of the plant and its equipment. It also stated that the land, infrastructure, water, tax free concessions and a guaranteed sales agreement for electricity were awarded to the company. These are the surface cost.

Government has already acquired the land at Vaucluse and per the laws of compulsory acquisition in Barbados, the owner of the land has to be compensated by government. It will cost the Government not cents but thousands of dollars.

Given the water woes that are currently being experienced in the Northern part of Barbados, it is indeed unrealistic for the government to continue to pursue this venture at this time. One wonders if there will be some basis by which the water if it is available will be distributed between the households and the plant and who will get the preferential access to water. Government has been advocating that it is climate change which has resulted in a drought that has been responsible for the water woes and not burst pipes, the aged infrastructure or poor management. If climate change is indeed the problem, it will be interesting to find how far the government is willing to go to ensure that this plant becomes a reality since it has already agreed to the delivery of the water when the water problem was not as aggravated as it is now. One wonders, if at the expense of the taxpayers, the government will incur the cost to purchase and install water tanks specifically for the waste to energy plant.

On February 12th, 2016 in the US, it was reported that the price of gasoline had dropped to US $0.99 cents per gallon in Kansas City, MO. It is at an all-time low and is projected to remain low for the next decade. It will be ridiculous for government to go ahead with the agreement to have the Plasma Gasification Plant built especially now that it knows that the price that it will pay the owners of the plant for electricity will be highway robbery of the taxpayers’ money.

The agreement does not provide any information on liability insurance in case there is a fall out. No information has been given regarding the potential health issues that the presence of the gasification will create.

There will be a cost to measure Barbados’ air quality given that nitrogen dioxide, mercury; dioxin, particulate matter, and acidic gas are all by-products of Waste to Energy facilities. At present we do not have a facility or the technology to monitor the quality of air on the island.

Nano particulate is a by-product of plasma gasification plants and we can expect a surge in asthma related and breathing problems as a result of the plant. Nano particulate are also cancer causing. The entire population is at risk of inhaling the particles and the exposure can lead to an increase in cancer in the population. These harmful dioxins are also transferred to the unborn, affecting their brains, immune systems, sexual and mental development and hormones. How will the hospital which now does not even have basic necessities and is seeking to become private be able to accommodate residents who become too sick to work and to pay? This will be an additional burden in the cost of health care that the state will have to bear.

These harmful dioxins affect everything in the environment; the soil, plants, food-crops and animals and the coral reefs. Outdoor farming close to the plant will definitely be a thing of the past. Another cost to taxpayers will be the cost of growing king grass at the expense of growing a revenue generating crop like sugar cane. It does not even rational sense to grow grass to burn garbage.

While the Minister of the environment will never state it, there is a cost to giving tax concessions to any company in Barbados. The taxes that are not collected from Cahill will have to be reallocated to the taxpayers by increasing a tax or creating a new tax. There will be a cost to the taxpayers for the infrastructure that will be laid like wells and pipes and roads, prior to the plant being build and this means that it will be coming from the public purse.

Then there is the matter of the tipping fees that the government will forgo if the waste haulers are forced out of business. It also makes one wonder about the said fees which are to finance government’s agreement with SBRC and should the public expect a replacement tax.

Added to this, the recycling industry will also be impacted since the size of the plant demands a specific tonnage of garbage. There is still no guarantee that garbage of the households in Barbados will meet the requirement of the Waste to Energy Plant. Garbage may very well be imported to feed the plant and one will not know if it will be nuclear waste or rat or snake infested waste. This brings us to the question of who will be inspecting waste that is imported. Will this not incur a cost?

In another article earlier this week the Minister of the Environment was again quoted saying that he was unaware of the extent of erosion on the beaches of Barbados and that the cost of combating the erosion was too much to be undertaken at this time due to the financial constraints it would have on the economy. He seems to have forgotten that tourism is not only the biggest sector in Barbados but the only one that is performing relatively well. Why not preserve the tourism product? All of the money that will be spent on the hidden costs of the Cahill Plant which will be incurred by government can be put to better use to combat beach erosion.

Why expose our tourism product to a Plasma Gasification Plant. From the upscale housing development of Sandy Lane to the pristine sandy beaches and the coral reefs as well as the reputation of being an exotic destination are at risk of being ruined because it is impossible to conceptualize a Plasma Gasification Plant on a tourist destination that is only 166 sq mls.

Instead of purchasing another garbage truck, the $480,000.00 of the tax payers’ money could have been used to lay the foundations for zero waste, reduce, reuse and recycle programs and banning products such as plastic and Styrofoam which are not bio-degradable. These will put the island on a more sustainable path to effectively handle its waste. Ours is a consumer economy, there will always be buying of goods, throwing away old things for new ones and disposing of packaging. Ultimately the amount of garbage will continue to rise. The answer to resolving the island’s garbage problem does not lie in purchasing more and more trucks or building a Plasma Gasification to Energy Plant.

In the final analysis, the Government of Barbados’ short sighted actions are not solutions to the waste management problem – time to start a sound environmental preservation plan. The Plasma Gasification Plant will be at no cost to the managers of Barbados, but ultimately the price tag will be quite hefty to the taxpayers who are still healthy enough to work in Barbados after the plant is in operation. The real buyers should therefore beware that the Plasma Gasification Plant comes with a price tag that cannot even be calculated at this time. One hopes that the Minister of the Environment realizes that it is not the Opposition but the people of Barbados that “are in a position to take the Freundel Stuart Government over the guillotine for the proposed waste to energy joint venture with the Cahill Group of Canada.” Sadly, the Prime Minister, who is ultimately responsible to the people of Barbados for his Ministers’ actions, clearly missed the mark when he failed to make a meaningful contribution in the Debate on the SSA (Amendment) Bill 2016. One wonders if he has been blinded by the garbage that he spoke.

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71 Comments on “Caveat Emptor: The Lowe-Down Cost”

  1. Violet C Beckles February 13, 2016 at 1:48 PM #

    Barbados is in dire need of a solution to its waste management problem@

    The DBLP is the only waste management problem Barbados have, Removed them and lets get back to clear air and water,

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  2. TheIGazer February 13, 2016 at 2:30 PM #

    Excellent.
    It is amazing to see the deep thinking that goes into the writings of Ms. Cole. It is obvious that many know what the problems are and have possible solutions, but we have become like a river that has lost its power and only stay on our current course.

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  3. Redfactor101 February 13, 2016 at 2:55 PM #

    A great condensed version of the scam that is Cahill energy ……..

    Question is what investor would buy into this abomination.

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  4. Heather February 13, 2016 at 3:43 PM #

    I forgot to mention the almost $200,000.00 finders fee.

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  5. Sunshine Sunny Shine February 13, 2016 at 4:23 PM #

    Heather Cole

    I just want to know one thing from you after reading a well put together article. Are you a supporter of any these stinking parties? Because if you are, what you wrote do not mean shite to me because all it says that you are tearing down one stink for the sake of getting in the other stink so the feeding of the loyal swine of 8 years missing bittle can continue. If you are an independent thinker and do not serve none of these stinking parties, I gave you my utmost respect for presenting a non-partisan view that is spot on about these stinking disrespectful DLP rats.

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  6. Heather February 13, 2016 at 5:03 PM #

    @ SSS, I have been blessed with an analytical mind. At present I am using it to inform the people of Barbados of what is really happening around them. In my opinion there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the Westminster system. It has some flaws that can be transformed and amendments are to be made so that it is revevant to Barbados in the 21st century. Governance is the problem in Barbados. In other words our problem is not the ‘what” but the ‘how.’ The people must want to change the how. We can flip from B to D every couple of years but until we the people demand accountability, change the rules of the game and act as employers things will never change.
    In my opinion it will be difficult for a 3 party to an election in Barbados. They will be unknown and without experience. It was the inexperience of the present government that has brought our once great island to its knees. Have you read my last post on the People’s Manifesto of Barbados? I know that I have a lot to offer and I am willing to support the party that will undertake the changes that I see are necessary for Barbados in governance as well as incorporating the people’s Manifesto into their own. The bottom line is that I am on the people’s side. Each and every Barbadian has a role to play; to be building blocks or corner stones for the next generation to stand upon. If we do not fight this battle to win, we will fail our future generations. I will do all that I can to ensure that Barbadians make an informed decision in the next general election.

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  7. Heather February 13, 2016 at 5:07 PM #

    for a 3rd party to win an election in Barbados*

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  8. Sunshine Sunny Shine February 13, 2016 at 5:43 PM #

    Heather Cole

    No disrespect but I still waiting for an answer.

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  9. Heather February 13, 2016 at 5:47 PM #

    I am supporting the people of Barbados.

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  10. Kammie Holder February 13, 2016 at 6:51 PM #

    Time longer than twine

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  11. Sunshine Sunny Shine February 13, 2016 at 8:51 PM #

    Heather Cole

    Then the SSS respect you the fullest. I do not respect much especially when I know you are a political pimp, a liar, a fraudster and manipulator.

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  12. Prodigal Son February 13, 2016 at 9:30 PM #

    Can anyone understand the logic of this government? They have not purchased grabage trucks since they came to office………….yet they blamed the BLP for all they have done wrong……but the goat called Lowe is building a tall, tall building. You ever see ignorance like this?

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  13. Colonel Buggy February 13, 2016 at 10:08 PM #

    Prodigal Son February 13, 2016 at 9:30 PM #
    You ever see ignorance like this?
    ………………………………………………………..
    Just following in the footsteps of the BWA.

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  14. Heather February 13, 2016 at 10:46 PM #

    @ SSS I am not being paid to write any political propaganda as some have been alluding to.

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  15. Heather February 13, 2016 at 10:51 PM #

    @ Kammie what are you saying?

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  16. Harry "Crock" Hinds February 14, 2016 at 12:08 AM #

    Show this email and comments to the people of BARBADOS maybe then they will understand why WE THE PEOPLE must not allow Dennis Lowe and his supporters to take us to the point of NO RETURN. http://mainenewsonline.com/content/16026974-air-pollution-rising-cause-death-india-china-and-other-emerging

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  17. Analyzer February 14, 2016 at 2:09 AM #

    Mia very quiet with all this going on! She exposed them and now doing nothing?

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  18. Sunshine Sunny Shine February 14, 2016 at 7:34 AM #

    Heather Cole

    As I said, you have my respect. Unlike you, I am no lady. I prefer to cuss your ass and expose you. Just like I got a whole lot of information to throw in the crutch of the Barbados Labour Party crook and vagabonds that I hate with a passion. But after seeing the true form of this pretensive Prime Minister and his misfit brigade, I just waiting to get as much correct and accurate information as possible on these stinking DLP liars, cheats and money grabbers. I have to sit by and watch Barbados build a reputation of being a place for garbage, both literal and political. I have to hear my business colleagues from other islands lament with sarcastic voices, what happen to Barbados, the gem of the Caribbean. You think I could feel good coming home and seeing some of the shite this these stinking bitches that running the country did to Barbados. I really do not know what the heck happen to bajans. When Bernard St. John and his misplace oreo wife started to behave like to high-minded shites, Barbadians got mad and nail the doors of Illaro court shut after putting their tails out to sea. Now you have a non married Prime Minister with a screw pooch mannerism insulting bajans left, right and center; a bold face crook call Lowe Lowe Lowe, doing bare shite and talking shite, a finance minister, telling bajans he does not lose any sleep at night, and bajans sitting back, lying down, and standing up taking this nonsense. I really wonder what happen to our pride. We gone foolish and soft or something?

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  19. Tunnel-Boring Machine February 14, 2016 at 8:02 AM #

    The construction of the new SSA building has be stalled/suspended for 12 months now as the developer/construction company is unwilling to submit to the ‘requirements’ for the provision of the letter of comfort/sovereign guarantee by MOF.

    HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO BUY A LETTER OF COMFORT AND SOVEREIGN GUARANTEE THESE DAYS????

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  20. caribbeantradelaw February 14, 2016 at 8:05 AM #

    @SSS, we have indeed become the laughing stock of the Caribbean whether we want to admit it or not. But my main concern is the fact that we seem to have lost the ability to get BASIC things done.

    Frankly, I support neither party and my single wish is for a viable third party to emerge to challenge the status quo.

    In regards to why Barbadians are keeping silent, I think there are three main reasons:

    (1) Too many people are benefiting from our corrupt system which encourages patronage and nepotism.
    (2) Those who are against the system are often afraid to speak out because of fear of victimisation of themselves or their families or the impact it may have on their job security. Not to mention the fact that anyone who speaks out is automatically branded a closeted Bee or Dem.
    (3) A growing number of people have become apathetic and see no hope for change.

    I applaud Heather for her efforts in agitating for change and actually putting forward solutions. She is doing what a lot of us wish we could but can’t for whatever reason. I hope her efforts bear fruit.

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  21. millertheanunnaki February 14, 2016 at 8:54 AM #

    @ Tunnel-Boring Machine February 14, 2016 at 8:02 AM
    “HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO BUY A LETTER OF COMFORT AND SOVEREIGN GUARANTEE THESE DAYS????”

    A Letter of comfort and sovereign guarantee is considered to be a contingent liability that effectively increases the national Debt and is viewed rather skeptically by the credit rating agencies and the international financial ‘regulatory’ agency the IMF.
    The more sovereign guarantees given the deeper Barbados falls into the bottomless pit of junk bonds.

    Who is going to lend Barbados money to shore up its balance of payments to finance its out-of-hand conspicuous habits when they are many ahead of them with similar sovereign guarantees?
    Do you think the GAIA would make good collateral to offer to would be lenders during the next round of begging trips to be undertaken by the MoF and his Guv of the CB?

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  22. flyonthewall February 14, 2016 at 10:11 AM #

    @SSS
    Beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing. This “brilliant analysis” has political fingerprints all over it. Read it again carefully and you will recognize the scare tactics that have been embedded.

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  23. Heather February 14, 2016 at 10:21 AM #

    @ the Flyonthewall where are the political finger prints?

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  24. David February 14, 2016 at 10:54 AM #

    Some financial institutions accept the weight of a guarantee to advance funds to a borrower. Not sure given the current state of government finances how much weigh it still carries.

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  25. Tunnel-Boring Machine February 14, 2016 at 11:42 AM #

    @Miller

    You missed the point, how much do you have to pay to get one from MOF&EA?

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  26. Analyzer February 14, 2016 at 8:03 PM #

    The islands west of Barbados should be worried about the toxic fumes too. St. Vincent and the Grenadines, St. Lucia, Martinique, Dominica and even Greneda might get more toxic fumes than theBarbadian population.

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  27. TheGazer February 14, 2016 at 8:12 PM #

    It is amusing to see how some attempt to discredit a posting by insinuating that the author has political finger prints. I would prefer that the fly get off the wall and points out the deficiency in the posting instead of just buzzing around. zzzzzzzzzzzz

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  28. Harry Crock Hinds February 14, 2016 at 8:25 PM #

    From:Harry “Crock” Hinds
    Please send this Email attachment on to as many people in BARBADOS that you can, asking them to do the same as well. This will HELP a lot of people to make up their minds to reject the Plasma Gasification Plant, due to all the NEGATIVE FEED BACK FROM AROUND THE WORLD. IF IT HAS / IS CAUSING SO MUCH DAMAGE IN THESE BIG COUNTRIES, imagine what it will do to the present and future residents YOUNG and OLD in BARBADOS.

    http://mainenewsonline.com/content/16026974-air-pollution-rising-cause-death-india-china-and-other-emerging

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  29. millertheanunnaki February 14, 2016 at 8:36 PM #

    @ Tunnel-Boring Machine February 14, 2016 at 11:42 AM

    I did not.
    I think the going rate is the cost of a second hand jaguar or what Cost-U-Less contributed to the 2013 campaign.

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  30. ac February 14, 2016 at 8:46 PM #

    Before the author goes shooting off the mouith about zero waste why does she not do the research which includes the years and billions of dollars to reset the mindset of society heading towards zero waste through adaptation models which in effect forces households to rethink there methods of having to not rely on those articles that are necessary to everyday living like paper cups and baby diapers paper towels and ordinary everyday household items that would have to be totally eliminated in order to completely have a zero waste society
    this idea of zero energy having no high degree of cost is a falsehood as society would have to reshape and remodel their way of living by a dressing those items which are easier and accommodating to easier lifestyle in favor for of rigid and expensive items that are not harmful to the environment
    The WTE plants is multifaceted which can eliminate those items which are bio hazards to the environment without much necessity for rigid and aggressive and costly changes to households

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  31. SuckaBubby February 14, 2016 at 9:39 PM #

    Government , should release all the collection routes by permit to private companies .Government runs all collection points and sell the garbage to the recyclers who in turn had bought it from the private collectors.SSA can deal strictly with government properties or private jobs on request paid for.The recylers can process and sell it via export.

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  32. Redfactor101 February 15, 2016 at 5:58 AM #

    @ suckabubby
    Problem with your plan is the Cahill agreements has promised all the garbage on the island to the plasma gasifier they would have to void the cahill agreements first in order to go down the zero waste management route the correct was for us to go.
    In light of the breaches to the contract todate that is a pretty simple thing for the government to do
    Put Cahill on official notice of its breaches and void the contract.Cahill is bankrupt and has nowhere to go with this

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  33. ac February 15, 2016 at 7:17 AM #

    here is an example of what it would be necesarry for society to envision having zero waste management relative to cost for the average household by way of adaptation

    Down with Disposables — The kitchen is filled with disposable items that are responsible for a whole lot of waste. Try these alternatives instead:
    Replace paper towels with reusable rags
    Pack to-go meals with reusable sandwich bags
    Non-Disposable or biodegradable dinnerware
    Always bring your own shopping bags
    Earth friendly sponges
    Buy in Bulk — Disposable containers generate 13 million tons of plastic waste in the U.S. Taking a few minutes of planning before you head to the grocery store can help eliminate that waste.
    Bring mason jars to the grocery store to hold bulk items or foods from the deli counter. Check out this expert guide to zero waste shopping from Trash is for Tossers
    Consider buying bulk castile soap to use as hand and dish cleaner instead of buying a bunch of little bottles of different cleaners. Castille soap can also be used as body wash, shampoo,.
    Love your Leftovers – Forty percent of all food goes to waste in the U.S. Check out these recipes from WeHateToWaste.com and learn to love your leftovers. Whatever can’t be salvaged should be composted!
    Shop Second Hand — Carbon Trust estimates that CO2 emissions associated with clothing account for three percent of global emissions. This number includes out-sourced production, shipping, washing, and drying. Shopping second hand saves good clothing from a landfill and reduces the overall demand for clothing production.
    Take Care of Clothes — Buying fewer items of higher quality will save you money in the long run and make it more likely you will take the time to mend rips and tears instead of throwing it out
    Simplify Cleaning Supplies — White Vinegar and baking soda are your new best friends. These all natural alternatives to dangerous chemical cleaners are versatile, effective, and eliminate plastic bottle waste. Check out this link for a list of zero waste alternatives for all your bathroom supplies.
    Make Your Own Cosmetics — Save money, avoid harsh chemicals, plastic containers, and packaging by making your own cosmetics. Check out Free People’s blog for instructions on how to make your own natural cheek and lip stains, perfume, shampoo, make-up remover, and more. Also be sure to check out OGP’s very own DIY beauty guides right here.

    the truth being these alternative solutions would be costly to every household and time consuming further more not practical in addressing the problems of high energy cost which would become problematic again in the future

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  34. Artaxerxes February 15, 2016 at 7:25 AM #

    caribbeantradelaw February 14, 2016 at 8:05 AM #

    “@SSS, we have indeed become the laughing stock of the Caribbean whether we want to admit it or not. But my main concern is the fact that we seem to have lost the ability to get BASIC things done.”

    @ caribbeantradelaw

    According to Prime Minister of St Kitts and Nevis, Dr Timothy Harris, Barbados is no longer being considered across the Caribbean as an excellent model of economic and social development.

    Harris told the media that: “For a very long time Barbados had been seen as a model of good government, good governance, good macro-economic policies model for small island states and certainly over the last decade Barbados has lost that.”

    He also said: “Barbados, to some extent is now, as you say for a prolonged period in a situation of economic difficulty which I think tarnished the way people look at Barbados for leadership in economic matters and that is a result of a number of factors both internal and external.”

    I’m sure that, after reading Harris’ comments, Stuart, Sinckler, Dr. Worrell and the entire DEMS brigade will accuse Dr. Timothy Harris of being a member of the BLP; a label they are quick to attach to their critics.

    Similarly to you, I’m not a supporter of the BLP or DLP. However, during the 2008 election campaign, which in some aspects “mirrored” that of Barrack Obama’s presidential campaign, the DLP promised “to clean up politics” in Barbados. A promise that many of us bought into and elected the DEMS. Unfortunately, 8 years after, the status quo relative to corruption and misleading the electorate remains the same.

    The DLP and its supporters must realize their political party forms the government of Barbados and Barbadians have the right to scrutinize and criticize their tenure.

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  35. Redfactor101 February 15, 2016 at 7:33 AM #

    Sarcasm or superciliousness !!!!!!!

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  36. Frustrated Businessman aka Republic my ass. February 15, 2016 at 7:34 AM #

    Tunnel-Boring Machine February 14, 2016 at 11:42 AM #
    @Miller

    You missed the point, how much do you have to pay to get one from MOF&EA?

    Everyone doing business with Stinkliar has to pay.

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  37. SuckaBubby February 15, 2016 at 9:07 AM #

    Redfactor101 February 15, 2016 at 5:58 AM #

    You are absolutely correct.Government not governing and business people who have no business acumen.

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  38. Peltdownman February 15, 2016 at 9:24 AM #

    @ac, what you outlined seems very doable to me. The Cahill project is using a sledgehammer to smash a nut. The things that you have outlined are already being done in many countries. You are denigrating Barbadians by implying that they are too lazy to do some of these things. Do you seriously think that a national undertaking to recycle and reuse wouldn’t go a huge way in reducing what has to go to a landfill? You and your fellow blind mice like to bring up Greenland as an excuse to carry out your own folly. But we would not be in this situation now if the terms of the original IADB agreement including Greenland, had been adhered to. That agreement called for a conversion to recycling and reusing, whereby only the unrecyclable material would be compacted and sent to the landfill. The problem was that the landfill mooted was in the wrong place. That did not nullify the rest of the agreement.

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  39. Frustrated Businessman aka Republic my ass. February 15, 2016 at 9:31 AM #

    SuckaBubby February 15, 2016 at 9:07 AM #
    Redfactor101 February 15, 2016 at 5:58 AM #

    You are absolutely correct.Government not governing and business people who have no business acumen.

    Business people are who brought Barbados to this level of development DESPITE pissy governments and useless civic service. The 8 year recession you are feeling is entirely due to the lack of business development facilitation at all levels of investment by Fumble’s Fools, from hotel magnates to food van vendors. Only the bribers are moving forward; it has never been so throughout our history.

    The Goddard business model for enterprising poor people to bust their ass to develop and expand businesses has been replaced with the Swan Street business model: maintain the perception of small scale, employ family and pay no taxes. Fumble’s Fools have guaranteed the collapse of our social institutions because of this, the only tax the next gov’t will collect is VAT and property tax, both of which will increase to maintain a useless civil service and our delusion of grandeur.

    I said this 6 years ago and I repeat again. Soothsayer? No, realist.

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  40. David February 15, 2016 at 9:48 AM #

    Is Jepter Ince a JA?

    Was the BLP and Arthur not booted from office? Why refer to failed projects by the BLP when that party was rejected by the electorate?

    Then there is James Paul blaming developers for water runoff. Jesus take the wheel.

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  41. ac February 15, 2016 at 10:27 AM #

    @ peltdown
    Do u understand total conversion to total elimination and the impact of cost to overall society which includes business having to restart or rebuild on new ideas and initiatives

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  42. David February 15, 2016 at 10:33 AM #

    The other ridiculous situation is Lowe lowe-balling Jose y Jose recycling project and Donville Inniss publicly congratulating Cherry. Not to mention Bynoe.

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  43. ac February 15, 2016 at 1:53 PM #

    The advocates of zero waste should be honest and transparent about the underlying cost and social adjustments necessary to every business and household In the same way they are calling for govts to be straight forward in their initiatives and plans for WTE management programs
    The first step to getting rid of landfills they need to be comprehensive plan that is durable and one that can rely on sources which is effecient in methodology in reducing those products which cannot be absord in the enviroment by way of land fills
    Zero waste although a step in the right direction is tedious and time consuming and in the long term be very costly to the average household.

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  44. millertheanunnaki February 15, 2016 at 2:21 PM #

    @ ac February 15, 2016 at 1:53 PM
    “Zero waste although a step in the right direction is tedious and time consuming and in the long term be very costly to the average household.”

    Although not in the right direction so too would the Cahill WTE and future landfills.
    The costs would not only be financial but also on the health of the “average household” because on the massive deleterious impact on the air and water needed by all living things; more so humans.

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  45. Redfactor101 February 15, 2016 at 2:26 PM #

    @ac
    You are living in cloud cuckoo land
    Come down from you’re ivory tower and face reality
    Zero waste management is philosophy and a way of life . telling people its more expensive is a blatant misrepresentation of the facts .
    U are one deceitful malfeasance.

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  46. Peltdownman February 15, 2016 at 4:23 PM #

    It is obvious from what AC is saying that they just don’t want to deal with the problem of waste. “Let someone else look after it” is the philosophy, because we don’t want to upset people by mandating them to separate and recycle. Who cares about the pollution and lack of water? After all we’ve always found water, haven’t we? These people are seriously deluded.

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  47. ac February 15, 2016 at 5:50 PM #

    There are several ways of dealin08g with waste management. However the end result is what matters most which involves time and speed recognizing that at the elements that are negatively impacting the enviroment at a rapid rate are attributable to climate
    change
    No govt have the luxury of time to revamp all of society towards goals for a cleaner enviroment through changes that even well intended can slow down the processes that are fast and necessary for a safer enviroment.

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  48. Redfactor101 February 15, 2016 at 6:17 PM #

    @ac
    You are an idiot.
    You must be smoking some bad weed or loosinf you’re already feeble mind.

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  49. ac February 15, 2016 at 7:55 PM #

    Look bro tge race iis on for a cleaner and safer enviroment now twenty ir thirty years from now but the future is now and u better believe it
    Society has been breast feed spoon feed in asking to join hands and do their part in saving the enviroment and most of what been said has falling on deaf years
    There is not too much time left for more to be said ior done .however govts have to faciliate those necessary mechanisms and methodologies that can enhance and speed up the processs for a cleaner and safer enviroment

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  50. Bush Tea February 15, 2016 at 8:17 PM #

    @ Redfactor101
    Skippa, calling AC an idiot is actually an insult to normal everyday idiots.
    You probably owe Alvin an apology in that regard…

    AC is more of a brass bowl rabbit of the female gender….
    and has been for some time now

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  51. Kammie Holder February 15, 2016 at 8:32 PM #

    Some one said earlier Dr Denis Lowe needs to be impeached.
    Reading the Terms Of Reference for the Bids no way could Cahill qualify for they lack experience and skills as requested. If ever their was a need for grandfathering of immunity for a politicians Dr Denis Lowe would be such a politician.

    The Minister of Environment is a big coward who refuses to engage the masses for he knows the Cahill Plant cannot stand up to scrutiny. All Barbados must join together and send Dr Denis Lowe and his cohorts who signed the Cahill MOU and PPA before Town Planning approval or EIAS a message that they will be held accountable for breach of public trust.

    Dr Denis Lowe the Prime Minister will not be always around to shield you. In 2018 you will be tried in the court of public opinion for gross arrogance and ignorance of masses concerns on Cahill. Be a man and stop hide behind the Prime Minister and meet the masses in a public arena and defend the virtues of Cahill if its better than weave or slice bread!

    @AC, how can you defend such ignorance when the masses kicked the BLP out because of gross arrogance and poor governance allegations.

    Please take a listen and tell us if this is the same Dr Denis Lowe who speaks of TRANSPARENCY AND GOOD GOVERNANCE AT 1:57secs?

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  52. Kammie Holder February 15, 2016 at 8:57 PM #

    @David, which investor going to buy the Cahill contract knowing it will be the subject of litigation? If the local high court does not rule in the plaintiff favor then an appeal to CCJ is an option. What will it say to the international investors and the world?

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  53. Artax February 15, 2016 at 9:23 PM #

    Has anyone looked at the financial implications of operating a WTE plant? I will offer two examples to BU, of research conducted to verify the economic viability of a gasification plant.

    According to “Alternative Energy News:”

    “All over the developed world, almost half the investment is put in control systems to reduce toxic emissions such as mercury, cadmium, lead, dioxins, furans, volatile organic compounds etc. For example a 2000 MT per day incinerator can cost upwards of $500 million in Europe, half of the cost being put into emission control. Another problem arises in the case of developing countries because the average calorific value garbage in such countries is about 800 cal / kg. For combustion technologies to succeed they would need about 2000 to 3000 cal / kg, otherwise auxiliary fuel has to be added. This makes the process more uneconomical and polluting than it already is.”

    The following excerpt was taken from page 7 of a 2011 working paper prepared by “Eco-Cycle” and entitled: “Waste of Energy: Why Incineration is Bad for our Economy, Environment and Community.”

    “Waste incinerators are hands-down the most expensive technology for generating electricity. In 2010, the U.S.
    Energy Information Administration (EIA) published a report showing that trash incinerators were more
    expensive to build and operate than nearly all other energy sources, including wind, solar, natural gas, coal and
    even nuclear power (see Table 2).xi The high cost of electricity generation and the vast upfront capital to
    construct a waste incinerator are nothing short of a high-risk economic gamble.”

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  54. Gabriel February 15, 2016 at 9:52 PM #

    I could only put up with half of lowe’s tape.I felt to vomit…yuk

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  55. Georgie Porgie February 15, 2016 at 10:17 PM #

    David February 15, 2016 at 9:48 AM #
    re Jesus take the wheel.
    DONT WORRY SAH
    HE IS COMING SOON

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  56. David February 15, 2016 at 11:20 PM #

    @Artax

    @Artax

    We should examine the transparency issue first regarding Cahill.

    He

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  57. Artax February 15, 2016 at 11:22 PM #

    @ Gabriel

    Listen to the other clown, Dennis Kellman, talking about the NHC. But it is the yard-fowls in the background that had me cracking up.

    Ironically, after listening to these guys criticizing the BLP in 2007, you will come to the realization that the status quo remains the same.

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  58. Artax February 16, 2016 at 12:17 AM #

    @ David

    The PM and Lowe are not prepared to address issues relative to transparency, but are finding justification for the CAHILL project to start. Since both men are adamant the project must start, I felt it was in the best interest of the island for us to examine the economic/financial implications of a WTE.

    Notice each time Lowe is challenged he resorts to engaging in “political distractions.” Remember when Mottley questioned him about CAHILL, he recited his autobiography in parliament, letting us know how poor he grew up and displayed unverified copy of his doctorate, while saying Mottley did not have a LEC to practice law in Barbados. The resident DLP yard-fowls obviously ran with this as it took “centre stage” for discussion, thereby distracting from the issues of transparency and accountability as it relates to CAHILL.

    AG Brathwaite promised to investigate if there was any truth to these allegations. However, since he has NOT RETURNED to the public or parliament with the RESULTS of his INVESTIGATIONS, we can safely assume Lowe was LYING.

    Moreover, a VIGILANT and RESPONSIBLE MEDIA (in the interest of transparency) would have REMINDED Brathwaite of his PROMISE and pressured him to REVEAL THE FACTS or EXPOSE HIM as a FRAUD and LIAR if he FAILED to do so, since enough time has elapsed.

    Now we are witnessing Lowe, in the face of criticism, again refusing to answer questions about CAHILL and resorting to attacking social media. He is fully aware this source of news, especially BU, has kept the flames burning under CAHILL, while the Nation, Advocate, Barbados Today, CBC and experienced journalists such as David Ellis continue to give him a “free pass,” $200 for passing GO, and a “get out of jail free” card.

    What is more comical is the Nation’s lack of interest in exposing CAHILL and other IMPORTANT ISSUES affecting Barbados, but preferred to send an “undercover reporter” to EXPOSE a WHORE HOUSE or featuring two “skippers” as a front page story. If that media house in interested in sleaze, perhaps they should send “undercover reporters” to Bridgette International Bar in Nelson Street so as to inform us about the variety of nationalities of women who sell their “wares” in that establishment.

    BU must be congratulated for continued efforts in highlighting CAHILL with commendable zeal and remaining steadfast despite the DLP infiltrators trying unsuccessfully to “politically spin” the issue.

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  59. David February 16, 2016 at 12:28 AM #

    @Artax

    Whether your last submission was politically motivated or not it is an erudite assessment of the situation that merits its own space on the blog.

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  60. Artax February 16, 2016 at 12:41 AM #

    @ David

    My contribution was NOT politically motivated, I only highlighted the TRUTH.

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  61. David February 16, 2016 at 12:46 AM #

    @Artax

    And that is why it has its own space on the blog. Like Bushie always say, it is the message we need to focus on.

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  62. millertheanunnaki February 16, 2016 at 12:49 AM #

    @ Artax February 16, 2016 at 12:17 AM

    Artax, what a piece of real journalism. Excellent in every regard.

    David Ellis is a compromised mock journalist not even eligible to sit in one of your training sessions.

    Imagine the Nation highlighting a whore house where safe sex is practised while Barbados is becoming just one big refuse dump. But what can one expect when a Mr. Sleaze of Jimmy Savile fame is the man in charge of sensationalism to keep the paper in business.

    Well we all know Barbados is not Amsterdam but merely a whore’s den of hypocrisy and filth.

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  63. Kammie Holder February 16, 2016 at 12:49 AM #

    @David, the public cannot thank you enough for your fight against tyranny, corruption and poor governance. Without your support, we would all be voiceless and suppressed. The world can now hear us thanks to BarbadosUndeground.

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  64. Colonel Buggy February 17, 2016 at 5:01 PM #

    The Prime Minister of St Kitts and Nevis has recently stated that Barbados was once a model to look up to.
    That was when the streets of Barbados were paved with gold. Today they are paved with garbage.

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  65. Sunshine Sunny Shine February 18, 2016 at 6:27 AM #

    Flyonthewall

    I asked her a direct question and she said she is supporting the people. I have since heard differently that she is a supporter of the Barbados Labour Party and campaign advocate. I, therefore, have nothing more to say to her or her contributions on here because I have no respect, whatsoever, for people pushing their agendas, and those of sick ass thieving party, when scorn is being heaped upon Barbadians and their suffering ignored. If she is one of the rats, she will be flushed out and exposed like Alvin Cummins. The SSS have peeps in many places.

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  66. flyonthewall February 22, 2016 at 6:27 PM #

    @SSS
    Congratulations. I “outed” this woman several posts ago, but she now has a loyal following on BU. For some reason, they cannot — or will not — recognize the subtle scent of political propaganda masquerading as independent analysis. No one seems prepared to question Heather Cole as to where she gets her inside information. The content matter of these posts is very targeted and strategic. She is no ordinary bystander. Ordinary bystanders don’t blitz the media with their posts and responses.

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  67. Anthony Davis March 28, 2016 at 7:03 AM #

    The anti-environment minister seems to forget that the hotels – the driving force of the economy at present – also need a lot of water, and if he gives Cahill Energy a 30-year water-free contract, and they can bore and extract as much of that scarce commodity as they please, then he must explain how the hotels and the populace of this country will get their water, and at what price. He is like George Zimmerman after he killed the young black boy – he is standing his ground no matter the consequence. The toxins that that plant will spew out of its stack will lead to an increase in NCDs. It’s strange that Canada has just refused to allow one such plant to be built, so why did Clare really come here? Because she found a load of gullible people to whom she could sell her nefarious idea. This is the same minister who said that he has never seen garbage in Bridgetown. Perhaps he would see it if he took off his tinted glasses and rolled down the tinted windows of the vehicle he is riding in – which is being paid for by the said taxpayers whom he wants to set up for all kinds of respiratory illnesses.

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  68. David March 28, 2016 at 7:17 AM #

    @Anthony Davis

    It is not for Lowe to say but the Chief Town Planner as part of the EIA.

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