Minister of Social Care

No Crime but Jail Time

Submitted by Heather Cole

Submitted by Heather Cole

An article in Barbados today dated Jan 27th 2016, has led me to believe that the present government is even worse than our former slave masters. While it may have happened, I do not recall ever reading that the slaves were jailed for failing to report a crime in Barbados.

In the article under the caption “Jail for failing to report child abuse,” the Minister of Social Care provided information to the effect that persons who did not report abuse would be subject to imprisonment. He did not mention any punishment for the perpetrators of the abuse or the agency that he heads which has failed to act on reports of abuse some of which have resulted in untimely deaths.

It is very strange that the Minister would take this highway approach as a solution to the problem instead of dealing directly with the problem. His method of resolving the problem is to take away his and the Child Care Board’s responsibility towards the children of Barbados and instead lay blame for their inability to manage squarely at the feet of everyone else on the island.

It makes no sense and can actually make some people ignore the abuse if they feel that they may be subjected to imprisonment if they had known about this situation for a long time and did nothing. I wonder how this law will be enforced. How will the police know that persons knew about the abuse? What proof will be required that persons knew about the abuse? What if the person failed to report third hand information which they cannot substantiate? Can they still be punished?

In democratic societies it is normal for persons to report crimes. It is not normal for them to be jailed for failure to report crimes. It makes one wonder if this is Barbados or if the state is becoming like communist North Korea, a Stalin led Russia or a Germany controlled by Adolf Hitler. Can this law be an infringement on the rights of Barbadians? Is the intent to create fear?

Although the intent is to protect children from predators, it is felt that that the full extent of the law should be on the perpetrators of the crime and the said Child Care Board and not the general public. Yes the public must be encouraged to come forward and provide information about the treatment of the defenceless but not under the threat of being jailed.

The Minister has still not gone to the root of the problem which is to create preventative programs like teaching parenting skills, anger management or even extending the foster care programme. A system for routine home visits should be implemented with thorough follow up to prevent cases from falling through the cracks. Additional staff must be hired and trained. Any 24 hour society must provide 24 hour care for its children who are at risk.

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74 Comments on “No Crime but Jail Time”

  1. MR.C January 28, 2016 at 9:24 PM #

    @ Heather Cole

    “The Minister has still not gone to the root of the problem which is to create preventative programs like teaching parenting skills, anger management or even extending the foster care program. A system for routine home visits should be implemented with thorough follow up to prevent cases from falling through the cracks. Additional staff must be hired and trained. Any 24 hour society must provide 24 hour care for its children who are at risk….”
    — x—

    This is an excellent thought,or I should say suggestion. But TRUTH be told, the Government will continue to do business as usual until the people of Barbados decides to STAND UP FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN. And STOP allowing the Government to play word games with them.
    But they already know that the people are going to accept things as usual, and just gather in different locations and talk, and more talk. They have the people’s actions down to a science. So until that’s broken.. things are going to remain as is.

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  2. Alvin Cummins January 28, 2016 at 10:20 PM #

    @Mr. C.
    What is your solution? Have you discussed this with your member of Parliament, put forward your suggestions and offered solutions(including costs to the government)for the suggested solutions?
    It is alright to come up with these ideas but everything must be considered in its implementation.As the older people used to say:”Prevention better than cure.”

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  3. Well Well & Consequences January 28, 2016 at 10:29 PM #

    Alvin….so why is it when people call the child care board with incidences of abuses to children and in one instance a child being removed from a secondary school by the guardian, not a parent, and because the guardian is connected, the same very child care board is telling the people reporting the matter, that they cannot do anything.

    So Blackett wants to lock up people for not reporting incidences of abuse, but when they report it tell them they can’t do anything. What is wrong with you F-ing idiots with your stupidity.

    What Blackett needs to do is set up a number where he can be called directly to prevent these abuses that endanger children’s lives.

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  4. Alvin Cummins January 28, 2016 at 10:37 PM #

    @Well Well if the child has parents why does it have a guardian? Is the guardian the rightful (read lawful) authority with jurisdiction over the child? If so then the authorities are within their rights.Has nothing to do with the “connections” of the guardian. You are so one sided it is pathetic.And you are always accusing me of yardfowlism. Same one-sidedness.

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  5. Well Well & Consequences January 28, 2016 at 10:41 PM #

    Ironically, I only heard about the case in the last hour. Why are the schools on the island allowing parents, in this case a guardian to take a 13 year old out of a school, claiming the child is being home schooled when that is not the case, why was there no follow up to confirm that is the case by the school.

    Why did the ministry of education give permission when the home schooling does not exist and never followed up to see if it’s true…..just because the guardian went to one of the older secondary schools….why is this child being put at risk by adults in charge of children’s security…..doesn’t any civil servant practice due diligence when it’s their friends and former school mates involved in child abuse.

    People are now watching the situation to see if anything violent or deadly happens to this child.

    Child care board knows of this case and refuses to do anything, just like Jahan King.

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  6. Well Well & Consequences January 28, 2016 at 10:44 PM #

    Alvin….the operative word is the safety of the child. The child care board knows of the case., just as they knew of the King child’s case and did nothing and now he is dead., so don’t tell me crap when you are trying to protect your shitty can’t do anything jackasses.

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  7. Well Well & Consequences January 28, 2016 at 10:48 PM #

    You don’t want to get on my bad side Alvin, tell Blackett to set up a number so he can be contacted about these pathetic cases, you are not fooling anyone while children are at risk and can lose their lives.

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  8. Heather January 28, 2016 at 10:55 PM #

    @AC your PM and his Ministers have never responded to any of the letters that I sent them. Perhaps it is better to inform the public in Barbados than try to speak with individuals who do not even acknowledge the communication that was sent. To make it worse your PM has an odious belief that the public is only making noise. Perhaps it maybe best if the Minister of Social Care ask Barbadians for help. His response to this crisis is with a law that will not be enforceable.

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  9. Well Well & Consequences January 28, 2016 at 11:02 PM #

    That is what am trying to tell Alvin….these cases of child abuse when reported have to be investigated, when people call re child abuse trying to save the life of a child and get a dumb response, there must be some other avenue they can access.

    Blackett can’t just jump out and say he will lock up those who don’t report child abuse when there is no one to report it to…..why don’t he lock up those in the child care board who are blatantly and callously refusing to acknowledge the rights of the child to live free of abuse and who ignore the reports.

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  10. Sunshine Sunny Shine January 29, 2016 at 4:50 AM #

    Alvin Cummins Aka complete and total idiot, hmmmm

    Assessing Alvi

    Alvi, I am not gonna blame your present stupidity on your education. I believe you work hard is france to achieve them few certificates you got behind your name and I believe, without a shadow of a doubt, they have stood you well throughtout the tests of time. However, Alvi Pelvi, I can’t help wonder if the shite you write has anything to do with your old age and the fact that you might not be as sharp as you were during your youthful days. So I gine assume the latter and the fact that you are as yardducky as they come.

    The Draconian DLP Government

    Draconian approaches seems to be the order of the day with this DLP piss poor party that you love. How else can you explain wanting to lock up a person who chooses not to report a knowing case of abuse like their are a criminal committing a hideous crime. Surely you know, Alvi, that the problem with abuse is systematic and culturally inculcated. The minister might see this draconian law as the only way in which you can get citizens to report cases, But, Alvi, through the introduction of fear factor law! I mean, Alvi, is this really the best approach to bringing about a solution? Since you are asking for suggestions concerning how to combat the problem of abuse that is only now getting attention only because a few persons have met their demise at the hands of it, otherwise these crooked is ass politicians would not have give two whoops and a pooch back about it, here is what I am going to suggest for your reading pleasure.

    My Points for Alvi Pelvi

    The minister should first determine, through the agency responsible for child welfare and overall welfare of its citizens (if he ain’t done do so already), in what circumstances may abuse occur. What degree of abuse may justify intervention. What patterns must be identified for the situation to be termed abusive, and map out the areas of the island were abuse tends to be far more prevalent than others
    Mandate by law, that identified problem homes or, since this administration like draconian, that all house holders submit information pertaining to their household situations where the environment is an abusive one. Alvi, you see anything wrong with that?
    Establish parental training stations, help groups, home visits, psychological and financial support systems to help those in need. After all Alvi, abuse has a fuel, it is said to be cyclic and it has a distinct pattern and various triggers that activates it. So, Alvi, we hitting home hard at the roots and bringing we various forms of ‘killers’ to root it out and stamp it out. You agree?
    Since we come from the days of dog hunters and bull pistols, 2×3’s and tamarind rods, and we think there is nothing wrong with throwing a fist or two in a child crutch or slap bout a woman with a few cuffs and kicks, implement legislation that prohibits all parents from physically hitting a child, or use of any other object to discipline or beat. I mean if you outlaw hitting and beating then you have to lean towards alternative forms of punishment, right? So this is where the government, now, instead of trying to think that they can fix abuse with a draconian law, would have to establish mechanisms that would be fitting forms of punishment, besides prison, for the hideous acts that lead to death by that segment of its abuser citizenry. This would certainly send a clear signal that if ya touch or even hit any person for that matter of fact, you and the law will talk. I mean Alvi, we going Draconian so why not simply nip the beating and hitting thing in the bud.
    Now since we outlawed hitting, beating, cuffing or pelting the cou cou stick in the tail of a child, or a man deciding to throw some licks in the crutch of his woman or wife, those who would seek to do so will now be subjected to the full weight of the law as long as it is reported. So now we have the problem of reporting these matters, which the viticms tends to avoid because of fear or the neighbour who hears it daily is so accustom to it that it does not register as abuse. Remember, Alvi sweetie, licks like peas is a commonly acceptable way of life in Barbados, just like politicians making deals or taking gifts is to them a normal acceptable practice that is not a violation of their laws. Remember, again, Alvi, these things are only given attention at the point of diabolical.

    Rational and Conclusion

    Alvi, you cannot force no one to report a situation that they do not want to get involve with. It is call Rights and Freedoms. So a person should have the right to report or not. However, since we got a big problem, and we like to wait till the problem spiral out of control before we start to act on it, I would suggest that the minister modify his draconian approach and rephrase his wording to state: where any person, neighbour, caregiver, teacher, friend or any other has common knowledge that a situation of abuse is heard, seen or understood or where a victim should confide in anyone a situation where their are being subjected to any form of abuse fails to report that abuse to a competent authority, he or she will be subjected to 240 hrs of community service to be carried out under the disciplinary programme of the Barbados Defence Force or Royal Barbados Police Force, or work directly in an establish safe house for abuse victims. Now, I would make this suggestion instead of imprisonment because to say or not to say, is a right. But, if the situation is so extreme that you have seen the scars and blood, viewed the swells and decide you are leaving it alone, then if that person dies, your failure to report, a report that could have saved a life, now falls in your hands. As it stands, the law would be effectively applied to you, but not for you to be imprisoned. I think that is foolish, since imprisonment is an extreme in a case where no crime was committed by the person who is being incarcerated for simply not reporting a matter.

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  11. Sunshine Sunny Shine January 29, 2016 at 4:51 AM #

    Heyyyyy David, I had numbers next to my points where did they go?

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  12. David January 29, 2016 at 5:48 AM #

    @SSS

    Assume you prepared using Word or some similar application and copy pasted to BU? If you did, you should have converted to html and then copy posted to BU to retain the formatting.

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  13. Hamilton Hill January 29, 2016 at 6:08 AM #

    All the way back in 2011 people sympathetic to the 2008 admiinistration of the DLP were literally begging the leader to call on the services of some of the old stalwarts of the party .It was obvious all back then, and even more so now that this bunch was clueless. A new government will now spend valuable time rewriting, reversing and wiping away the mess this group would have left.

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  14. ac January 29, 2016 at 6:29 AM #

    Here are the Facts as laid out by the ACT

    “Obligation to report child abuse

    A person who attends to, examines or otherwise interacts with a child and is aware or has reasonable cause to suspect that the child is a victim of domestic violence, shall immediately notify the Child Care Board or a member of the Police Force of that suspicion.

    A person who

    is aware or has reasonable cause to suspect that a child is a victim of domestic violence and fails to notify the Child Care Board or a member of the Police Force; or knowingly and maliciously makes a false, inaccurate or misleading statement to the Child Care Board or a member of the Police Force, alleging that a child is a victim of domestic violence,

    is guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine of $5000 or imprisonment for a term of 12 months or to both.”.

    http://www.barbadosparliament.com/uploads/bill_resolution/907d022cc76d0c58b3353e80836ba3e6.pdf

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  15. David January 29, 2016 at 6:35 AM #

    It is good Barbadians have started to pay attention to the wording of new ledgislation, don’t be sheep!

    We should discuss the fact that recent cases of Jahan King and Shamar exposed the fact the Child Care Board is inadequately staffed and respond. How does the law respond to situation where the CCB is delinquent and when it results in death!

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  16. ac January 29, 2016 at 7:14 AM #

    On read of the article on BU as submitted by one of the BLP leading propagandist tools one would conclude that the govt is willy nilly throwing innocent people in jail for not reporting child abuse which is further from the truth but as i have always stated that a drowning man clutches at straws and the said seems to fit perfectly like a glove to all drowning members of the blp brigade who not only have lost their souls but also have become loose cannons floating on a poisonous sea bed of political deprivation

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  17. Sunshine Sunny Shine January 29, 2016 at 7:18 AM #

    David

    I ain’t copy and paste nutten. I wrote it directly on the forums details section.

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  18. Well Well & Consequences January 29, 2016 at 7:39 AM #

    AC…..it does not matter how the new regulations or laws are worded, if you call the child care board regarding a child’s welfare and they tell you they can do nothing……nothing means nothing and puts the child at risk, what is so hard about that to understand. You can create any law but as long as action is not being taken by those responsible for implementation, your law is shit.

    You know what I will do, since it seems everyone is in idiot mode…I will advise that Blackett, Social Transformation Minister be contacted directly about this child’s situation and if he ignores it, don’t investigate or do anything half-assed…..I will post it on here….ya’ll are mentally fked up.

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  19. David January 29, 2016 at 7:48 AM #

    @SSS

    The problem is local then.

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  20. ac January 29, 2016 at 8:35 AM #

    Her is a prime example of a so called intellect trying to ran the affairs of barbados and her leading source is Barbados today news paper ..lol

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  21. Bush Tea January 29, 2016 at 8:42 AM #

    @ Heather
    Take a good look at Blackett …. and Froon …..and Stinkliar….

    What else can you expect?
    At least Blackett can read sweet as shiite….. you expect him to be smart too…?

    If these JAs would at least prosecute the cases that they HAVE, and address the clear weaknesses in the Child Care Board….. Then such a law may even seem debatable….

    Steupsss..
    If you want to destroy something, just put an idiot in charge of it….

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  22. Sunshine Sunny Shine January 29, 2016 at 8:53 AM #

    We all have to congratulate minister Blackette for seeking to put something in place. Lord knows if this law will work or not, but the important thing is that there is tryand response after years of doing nothing. I think Blackett just needs to change that bit about a 5000 dollar fine or 12 months imprisonment. Let me say why.

    Suppose I home in Bim and walk past a house were all of a sudden I hear loud screaming foreday morning. All of a sudden the woman hollaring for blue murder. George I cah tek no more, please stop, you hurting me, Geoooorgeeeee ahhhh! George shout out,” Tek dah, and dah, and dah, you tink I mekking sport!“ Now upon hearing all dem screams knowing what the law tell me I must do, I call the police. Police turn up and hear the screaming going on and George executing he aggression in loud boisterous screams resulting in the sides of the board house making thumping noises as he expresses himself verbally and in non verbal overtones.

    The police brek down the door gone inside, only to see George pelting some waste in he woman. George all startled and afraid ask the police what he do wrong. He woman screaming she tail off, George who you trouble! Police say a lady outside reported hearing an act of domestic abuse. That the two of you in here fighting bad and the woman shouting for blue murder. George woman tell the police take he way officer, you see the size of the trunk he was using to lash me wid. He should be arrested for length and width. George come outside and tell me I should mind my own business that he just mekking love to he woman, I want locking to shite up. Police come and tell me that in accordance with regulations blah sections blah blah, you are under arrest for malicious and falsely making a claim of domestic abuse, when it was simply a big doggie acting out. Now tell me, how the heck can I be charged when I heard noises that sound like domestic violence. Did I not do the right thing and report what I thought was a case?

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  23. Heather January 29, 2016 at 9:09 AM #

    @ AC then I am the one getting the last laugh. Since you are hinting that Barbados Today is not a credible source,why does the information that I read from Barbados Today fit into the ACT that you posted?

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  24. Artaxerxes January 29, 2016 at 9:26 AM #

    @ Heather

    Surely by now you should realise when anyone is critical of any minister, policy or the manner in which this DLP administration treats Barbadians, you are automatically characterized by the DLP and its supporting yard-fowls as being unpatriotic, “preaching doom and gloom,” and a member of the BLP, (hence the term “BLP foot soldiers)”. When their backs are against the wall, their only retort is: “bring solutions.”

    The only reliable source for news is the Barbados Advocate, because unlike the Nation and Barbados Today, the news paper prints all pro DLP articles.

    I encourage you to forget the “semi-literate” critics whose sole purpose in this forum is to defend the indefensible, keep on posting your articles and interacting with the BU household.

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  25. Artaxerxes January 29, 2016 at 9:45 AM #

    “Obligation to report child abuse:

    19A (1) A person who attends to, examines or otherwise interacts with a child and is aware or has reasonable cause to suspect that the child is a victim of domestic violence, shall immediately notify the Child Care Board or a member of the Police Force of that suspicion.
    (2) A person who:

    a. is AWARE or has REASONABLE CAUSE to SUSPECT that a CHILD is a VICTIM of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE and FAILS TO NOTIFY the CHILD CARE BOARD or a MEMBER of the police force;

    is GUILTY OF AN OFFENCE and LIABLE ON SUMMARY CONVICTION to a fine of $5 000 or imprisonment for a term of 12 months or to both.” [Pages 21 and 22 of the Act]

    The above is self explanatory; if it can be proven that an individual is aware that a child is a victim of domestic violence and does not notify the relevant authorities, that person can be imprisoned, fined $5,000 or incur both.

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  26. Well Well & Consequences January 29, 2016 at 9:53 AM #

    And if both the child care board and police say they can do nothing while having a reasonable suspicion that the child is at risk, but because they are friends with or family to the abuser(s)…..that child can end up dead or if survive, become a very emotionally disturbed adult ….and the law will still mean nothing.

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  27. Sunshine Sunny Shine January 29, 2016 at 9:56 AM #

    Arant

    Imprison for what, keeping ya mout shut. That is bare shite.

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  28. Artaxerxes January 29, 2016 at 10:17 AM #

    Sunshine Sunny Shine January 29, 2016 at 9:56 AM #

    “Imprison for what, keeping ya mout shut. That is bare shite.”

    Tell that to BU’s resident DLP propagandist yard-fowl, who want to make us believe the ACT states otherwise.

    Another knee jerk reaction by the DLP. And they will respond with another knee jerk reaction when they admit they are aware that senior citizens are also abused by care givers, relatives and extended family members. Blackett should be aware of this since the National Assistance Board would have compiled the necessary information.

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  29. ac January 29, 2016 at 10:23 AM #

    Lady sticking to the facts serves public knoweldge for the better instead of usage of political speech and loaded messages of insinuations

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  30. Well Well & Consequences January 29, 2016 at 10:30 AM #

    The people who would call, child care board and police to report abusers also have to be careful for their own safety when the abusers find out their identities….do you people have any thinking capabilities.

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  31. Bush Tea January 29, 2016 at 11:11 AM #

    Perhaps we should let them enact such laws….

    …and THEN insist on equivalent laws which say that ANY lawmaker who was aware of ANY fraud involving public transactions ….AND WHO DID NOT REPORT SUCH…. would be subject to immediate arrest, and on conviction, a term of 5 years and a fine of $100,000 for each such offence…

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  32. Bernard Codrington. January 29, 2016 at 11:19 AM #

    Are there no legal advisers either in the DPP Office or the Permanent Secretary to the Ministers to vet these bills before they reach Cabinet?

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  33. Bernard Codrington. January 29, 2016 at 11:21 AM #

    Most of these hurried bits of legislation are unenforceable or are repugnant to common sense.

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  34. Bush Tea January 29, 2016 at 11:27 AM #

    Ask Caswell to tell you who comprise the Solicitor General’s office and it will all become clear….

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  35. David January 29, 2016 at 11:34 AM #

    The Antiquities Bill is a good example of flawed draft bills.

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  36. Well Well & Consequences January 29, 2016 at 12:02 PM #

    Yeah…..Solicit General’s ofice is a joke.

    Their head counsel did not want to see a woman injured 34 years ago and suicidal from 34 years of pain get her money for surgery or any compensation period. Do you think any of those beasts will care about abused children or their rights…steupss.

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  37. Well Well & Consequences January 29, 2016 at 12:04 PM #

    Sorry, Solicitor General’s Orifice.

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  38. SuckaBubby January 29, 2016 at 1:45 PM #

    Nice article as usual.The proposed law is just plain stupid.Why not save ourselves the trouble and inaccuracy and encourage people to use the infrastructure already there like CrimeStoppers?

    We had the gun issue many years ago and a law was made, $250,000 in fines and/or 25 years in prison.People were caught with guns since and neither were enforced.Now guns are proliferating.Poorly conceived , poor execution.This proposal by Mr. Blackett will just increase the polarization of the society and more child abuse.

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  39. SuckaBubby January 29, 2016 at 2:01 PM #

    Correction…$75,000.Both figures were the maximum enforceable.

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  40. Sunshine Sunny Shine January 29, 2016 at 5:38 PM #

    I love what Bushtea proposed . But you know how one can prove that these liars are liars. These frauds found all sorts of reasons to tell you why ITAL needs time to be placed on the statutory books. They talk all sorts of shite about how it needs careful consideration and thought Yet it took them mere weeks to draw up legislation for domestic abuse that did not warrant the same set of delay tricks like ITAL legislation. That is how you prove a liar is a liar.

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  41. Simple Simon January 29, 2016 at 6:00 PM #

    @Heather Cole “In the article under the caption “Jail for failing to report child abuse,” the Minister of Social Care provided information to the effect that persons who did not report abuse would be subject to imprisonment. He did not mention any punishment for the perpetrators of the abuse.”

    Heather Cole is being disingenuous. I see no problem with the law. The law should also be extended to cover vulnerable adults. Like the retarded woman I know, who cannot feed, or bathe or dress herself and who gave birth. When a report was made the one reporting was told “she is a woman we can’t do neffen”

    Now tell me do any of you believe that a person who cannot feed, bathe, or dress herself, who cannot speak, read or write is capable on giving informed consent to sexual intercourse with an adult male? And would you want her to be raising your grandchild? When she cannot even bathe herself? And yet the medical professions who delivered the baby were not compelled to report that they had good reason to believe that she had been sexually abused.

    We have a law that says we can be fined for NOT wearing seat belts and that law has worked. Please note that the number of traffic deaths has almost halved since the law was implemented and ENFORCED. Before the law not a ZR fella wore a seat belt. Now not a ZR fella does not wear a seat belt. Good law, rigidly enforced works.

    The proposed law is just like the law in the place where Well Well lives, and where likely Heather Cole lives or would like to live. The law is very very similar to laws in the United States, the United Kingdom and Canada. Countries which we tout as good examples of the rule of law and social justice. The law will quite correctly compel responsible adults to report child abuse. What is wrong with that? If a doctor finds out that a 13 year old child has been impregnated by her own father, do we really believe that it is a good thing that the doctor should deliver the baby and sent the 13 year old home again?

    Responsible professional people, doctors, nurses, social workers, teachers, guidance counsellors hold responsible positions and we reasonably expect them to act in the best interest of any child who is in their care.

    And it is in a child’s best interest to be protected from abuse and to be helped to escape an abusive situation.

    I am not a member of any political party. I have never been a member of any political party. I do not intend to become a member of any political party, but I believe that the proposed law (if enforced) is an extremely good and progressive piece of legislation.

    Somebody has to report the abuse and who better than the health professional or teacher in whom the child has confided?

    Wunna complaining about this.

    Wunna complain when people do not report suspected child abuse.

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  42. David January 29, 2016 at 6:16 PM #

    Did we have to listen to AG Brathwaite admit he is concern about rising crime rate and that resources will have to be redirected from traditional heads like education and health?

    JA

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  43. ac January 29, 2016 at 6:51 PM #

    Only a jack a.ss would read that Act and conclude that people if telling the truth would go to jail for reporting a crime. As a matter of fact all laws based on criminality states that falsified information or witholding of evidence is subjected to jail or fines.
    But leave it to the gripping depraved johnnies of the blp to lie and conjure up false assumptions and called them factual and relevant information and actually belive all of what they said is truthful.

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  44. Well Well & Consequences January 29, 2016 at 7:42 PM #

    AC…..I see denial is gnawing at you again, soon there will be nothing left, nothing remaining of you….eaten by denial….how fitting.

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  45. ac January 29, 2016 at 9:32 PM #

    False reports of child abuse under laws governing cities in the USA

    A person commits a misdemeanor of the second degree if the person intentionally or knowingly makes a false report of child abuse under (relating to child protective services) or intentionally or knowingly induces a child to make a false claim of child abuse

    Mandatory Reporting

    Mandatory reporter laws establish certain professionals and/or individuals as mandatory reporters. These laws typically require people who work closely with children in their profession to alert police or the appropriate authorities as to suspected abuse. As of March 2012, there are also 18 states whose laws require all citizens with knowledge or suspicion of abuse to report it the proper authorities.
    The law also states the penalties for failing to report abuse. The Administration of Children & Families within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services maintains the Child Welfare Information Gateway which includes information on mandatory reporting along with specific state laws.

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  46. Heather January 29, 2016 at 9:36 PM #

    @ Simple Simon, what can I say? You have lived up to your name.

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  47. TheGazer January 29, 2016 at 10:16 PM #

    Not a legal scholar, but I think the following is poorly written..

    “A person who attends to, examines or otherwise interacts with a child and is aware or has reasonable cause to suspect that the child is a victim of domestic violence, shall immediately notify the Child Care Board or a member of the Police Force of that suspicion”

    It should state that the examination should be done by someone who is an MD.

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  48. Simple Simon January 29, 2016 at 10:48 PM #

    No not poorly written. A physician may have reason to examine a child. Or maybe a daycare worker is the first person who notices signs of abuse in a very young child. In other words the first person who notices the abuse must report. Other people such as doctor’s who examine the child must also report.

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  49. Simple Simon January 29, 2016 at 10:58 PM #

    North America
    In the United States, states frequently amend their laws, but as of November 2013 all States, the District of Columbia, American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands have statutes identifying persons who are required to report suspected child maltreatment to an appropriate agency.

    Approximately 48 States, the District of Columbia, American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands designate professions whose members are mandated by law to report child maltreatment.

    As of November 2013, 18 States and Puerto Rico, any person who suspects child abuse or neglect is required to report suspected abuse or neglect regardless of profession. In all other States, territories, and the District of Columbia, any non mandated person is also allowed to report.

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  50. Simple Simon January 29, 2016 at 10:58 PM #

    Canada imposes a mandatory requirement on all citizens, except in the Yukon Territory where it is restricted to those who come in contact with children in their professional roles.

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  51. Simple Simon January 29, 2016 at 11:01 PM #

    European Union
    In 15 Member States (Bulgaria, Croatia, Denmark, Estonia, France, Hungary, Ireland, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Poland, Romania, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom) reporting obligations are in place for all professionals. In 10 Member States (Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Greece, Finland, Italy, Latvia, Portugal and Slovakia) existing obligations only address certain professional groups such as social workers or teachers.

    More than half (15) of the EU Member States (Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia and Sweden) have specific reporting obligations addressing civilians, with specific obligations for civilians to report cases of child abuse, neglect and/or exploitation. In many Member States without specific provisions, general provisions on the obligation for all citizens to report a criminal act under national law apply, but with no specific obligation to report a child at risk of abuse.

    In Germany, Malta and the Netherlands, no reporting obligations were in place in March 2014. In Malta, however, the new draft Child Protection Act (Out of Home Care),[introduces the obligation of mandatory reporting for all professionals and volunteers.

    Under UK law only local authority social workers, health and social service board social workers (Northern Ireland) and police have a duty to report suspicions that a child is in need of care and protection. Local child protection guidelines and professional codes of conduct may expect other professionals, such as teachers and medical staff, to report, but they do not have to do so as a matter of law.Frontline professionals are also required to report cases of Female genital mutilation.

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  52. Simple Simon January 29, 2016 at 11:41 PM #

    I don’t know whether or not Heather Cole has a political agenda. But mandatory reporting of child abuse (and of elder abuse and vulnerable adult abuse) is pretty commonplace, and I would hope that whether she is “B” or “D” or something else entirely that she would see both the wisdom and the utility of mandatory reporting.

    After all even though I may be wrong is is unlikely that the billion people in the United States, the European Union, Canada, and the United Kingdom are also all wrong.

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  53. Bush Tea January 30, 2016 at 12:24 AM #

    Simple Simon
    …even though I may be wrong is is unlikely that the billion people in the United States, the European Union, Canada, and the United Kingdom are also all wrong.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Both you, AND those billion people you identified- and over 5 billion others, are WRONG about many more things than you could possibly imagine…

    …why don’t you spend some more time reading and thinking ..rather than living up to your name? Not all things are simple and straight forward …like jumping into a ZR and getting out at the right stop.

    Citizens SHOULD report abuse and suspected abuse BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. This is also why motorists should use seat belts; why drugs should be avoided and why politicians should be honest.

    This business of PASSING LAWS to require citizens to do certain things has often been shown to be counter-productive. It is why we have a drug trade that compromises most modern societies; why Stinkliar collects LESS in taxes …even as he continues to raise rates….and certainly why too little garbage is making its way to our legal dumps after the stupid tipping fee…

    If you were a doctor who sees large numbers of children, you may well be tempted to STOP seeing certain types of children ..after a few cases that require you to spend DAYS on end sitting around some shiite court, listening to some retarded magistrate or judge making stupid jokes and adjourning case after case…

    So you pass your simple-minded law …and suddenly children become ‘persona non grata’ in doctors’ offices.
    Of course this won’t happen in this case, because our doctors just LOVE going to court and being drawn into domestic disputes involving retarded and deranged brass bowls who abuse children….
    But SURELY it is something that should be debated before enactment….

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  54. flyonthewall January 30, 2016 at 10:35 AM #

    @Simple Simon
    “I don’t know whether or not Heather Cole has a political agenda.”

    Simon, I don’t know if you recall the run up to the 2008 election, when a slew of letter-writers and columnists appeared in the media in support of one party or the other. Up until then, the parties had relied on Beresford Leon Padmore and Douglas Leopold Phillips, which were the paid-for propaganda messages of the BLP and the DLP (since disappeared). But recognizing that these “advertorials” were too obvious, both parties engaged teams of scribes to lead their attacks on the opposite camp. Their efforts could be seen every week, slogging it out in the editorial pages. On the BLP team there was Ezra Alleyne, main hagiographer on behalf of Owen Arthur. He was supported by Clyde Griffith, and by a sycophantic political mouse by the name of Henderson Bovell who, many weeks, contributed multiple letters to the editor. On the DLP side there was Hartley Henry and Reudon Eversley (he has since switched his allegiance).
    These “campaigns” started well before the election, but within weeks after the election these scribes faded into the background once more. But things have changed since the last election: letter-writers and social commentators ( a species that does not exist outside of Barbados), have become permanent fixtures in our media. However, having revealed their political biases over time, they need to be supported by new names — “impartial ordinary citizens” — to maintain the illusion of objectivity. These “new names” don’t write to the editor of just one paper: they write the same letter to all editors. They are the new Leons and Beresfords. Things are beginning to heat up. The parties are assembling their writers for the battle of hearts and minds.

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  55. Cindy Roett January 30, 2016 at 1:10 PM #

    It takes a village to raise a child. If someone knows about child or animal abuse and does not reported they are just as guilty as the perpetrator. All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing

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  56. Heather January 30, 2016 at 2:01 PM #

    @ Cindy the public’s failure to report abuse is not a problem in Barbados. The two recent deaths are a testament to that fact. The problem is that the Child Care Board failed in its duty towards the children of Barbados. The Minister should have been replaced, the Board and the Director removed and the entire department re organized. It is simply not responsive to the needs of Barbados at this time. The government’s weak response is an attempt to remove blame and incompetence from itself and to put fear into the entire population.

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  57. Well Well & Consequences January 30, 2016 at 3:38 PM #

    The child care board will still be incompetent, it will still be business as usual. The travesty is in trying to arrest the public when it’s those in authority should be arrested for knowing about the child abuse, while doing nothing to stop it….the public is in no way legally responsible to report anything, those who do so most times do it out of civic duty, something none of those in authority or who are responsible for the children possess.

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  58. flyonthewall January 30, 2016 at 4:41 PM #

    Excerpts from lawyer.com
    “Most of the time, ordinary citizens are not legally required to report a crime or to do anything to stop it. In other words, there is no general duty to be a “good Samaritan.” But the exceptions are surprisingly widespread.”
    Child Abuse
    “Every state requires certain groups of professionals to report child abuse. Most commonly, people who work in health care, education, and child care are among those required to make a report of suspected child abuse to local authorities. Some states require all citizens to report cases of suspected child abuse.”

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  59. David January 30, 2016 at 4:47 PM #

    In the case of Shamar or was it Jahan was the case not reported to the Child Care Board? We need to fix the problem.

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  60. Well Well & Consequences January 30, 2016 at 6:09 PM #

    That’s it….these 2 or 3 children died…they are dead because the child care board, police and hospital officials, etc failed them, yet these dummies for legislatures, instead of fixing the problems, are trying to transfer the responsibilities to the public…clowns.

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  61. Simple Simon January 31, 2016 at 6:34 PM #

    @flyonthewall January 30, 2016 at 4:41 PM “Excerpts from lawyer.com
    ordinary citizens are not legally required to report a crime [but]…“Every state requires certain groups of professionals to report child abuse”

    Indeed.

    And Canada requires anybody and everybody to report, and I don’t hear any ‘o wunna complaining that Canada is going to hell in a handcart…in fact Bajans going to Caanad everyday, to holiday, sto stydy, to work legally and illegally…in Saturday’s paper one complaining to everybody that she was denied entry to Canada…gay Bajans going to Canada and successfully claiming refugee status…in fact if Canada opened its doors tomorrow and say “all ‘o wunna come and ger permanent residence status”, there likely won’t be anybody left in Barbados except Simple Simon…and every one of the new Bajan Canadians would be compelled to report child abuse,. and yet we wouldn’t hear a peep of complaint from the Bajans who go to live there.

    Wunna political partisan Bajans are something else doah!!!

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  62. Simple Simon January 31, 2016 at 6:36 PM #

    You too Heather Cole. Especially you Heather Cole.

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  63. Artaxerxes January 31, 2016 at 10:17 PM #

    Heather January 30, 2016 at 2:01 PM #

    “@ Cindy the public’s failure to report abuse is not a problem in Barbados. The two recent deaths are a testament to that fact. The problem is that the Child Care Board failed in its duty towards the children of Barbados. The Minister should have been replaced, the Board and the Director removed and the entire department re organized. It is simply not responsive to the needs of Barbados at this time. The government’s weak response is an attempt to remove blame and incompetence from itself and to put fear into the entire population.”

    Excellent contribution, Heather, you hit the proverbial “nail on its head.”

    Rather than address the issues, this administration seems bent on “legislating morals and virtues,” since they always approach every problem with a “knee jerk” reaction. Rather than being proactive, these guys are reactive.

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  64. Well Well & Consequences February 1, 2016 at 8:57 AM #

    Simple…I am surprised you missed the point. No one is complaining about doing their civic duty about reporting child abuse, they are rightfully complaining about nothing being done WHEN they report child abuse and children DIE anyway because the police, childcare board, healthcare professionals, now the girls industrial school heads and workers, the same ministers legislating laws to lock up who don’t report….all sit on their asses and do nothing because now we are understanding that many of them are directly or indirectly involved in the abuse of children on the island….and then the same beasts have the nerve to legislate to lock up citizens who don’t report child abuse.

    I know you are not AC, so you get my drift….the question we ask is why are they transferring their responsibilities of locking up these people to and trying to lock up the public instead when they themselves are the culprits.

    By the way….when you report child abuse in Canada, the authorities in Canada actually get up off their asses and investigate and actually do something about credible reports, if the authorities had done the same in Barbados, 2 or 3 children would be alive, children would not now be internet prostitutes and experiencing brutal abuse at the hands of vicious beasts and demons.

    If no one understood the above, i will start to wonder if it’s something being put in the food or water.

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  65. Well Well & Consequences February 1, 2016 at 8:58 AM #

    Art…..they are simply practicing their usal deceptions, bullshitting the world, or so they think.

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  66. Donna February 1, 2016 at 10:41 AM #

    This issue is too important to be yardfowled! Please, think of our CHILDREN and speak with their interests at heart. That is, if you have a heart.

    I have not yet formed an opinion as I am not sufficiently informed. So, I’ll reserve my comments. But I will ask what happens to those to whom the abuse is reported – those being paid to respond to our reports and who fail to do so in an appropriate and timely manner? Is it just NO BUSINESS as usual for them?

    David, it was both cases- Jamal King and Shamar Weekes. BOTH CASES WERE REPORTED.

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  67. Hants February 1, 2016 at 11:00 AM #

    @ David if I punch you in the face for not banning ac I would be arrested by the police and charged with assault.

    If a do the same to a child it would be reported to the child care board and investigated and the police may or may not be called in.

    Barbados needs to change the culture of violence that allows the beating of children and women.

    There are enough lawyers to deal with any flaws in the proposed legislation but we as ordinary citizens must seek to protect our children and women.

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  68. David February 1, 2016 at 11:08 AM #

    Verla Depeiza addressed the issue confirming the Police already have powers under the Police Act to arrest. What Verla and government need to address is when these matters are reported is there a rapid response protocol.

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  69. Well Well & Consequences February 1, 2016 at 11:15 AM #

    Hants….that is the main problem, the culture of violence that too many are eager and socialized to accept, beginning with the leaders and authorities. These ministers believe when they run and legislate, everyone is appeased and the problem will fix itself and disappear, they will learn that is not so, when a long list of names with color photos start appearing on the internet, highlighting the suspects, then they will reverse their bullshit law and start doing their jobs, first of which is to implement the laws already on statute books and lock up the child abusers, child rapists of both girls and boys, rapists of teenagers and females, women beaters, abusers and killers……because that is their job description..it is not the job of the public to investigate abuses or implement laws.

    I don’t care how much nonsense people on here post.

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  70. Well Well & Consequences February 1, 2016 at 11:23 AM #

    I would also add that they, the police etc, need to investigate the adults from all levels of society who are pimping out under age or just of age males and females into prostitution. …it has become too acceptable to pimp out young people….too many young people are complaining that they are being socialized to be prostitutes…that too is the responsibilty of the leaders and authorities.

    I was directed to an xvideo site for Bajans recently and was appalled to see young girls who look no more than 11 or 12 and could very well be younger on this sex site…..many names, who should be leaders are being called in this destruction of young life.

    Unless prostitution is legal on the island…that I don’t know

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  71. Donna February 1, 2016 at 1:12 PM #

    Sorry, that’s “Jahan King.”

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  72. Donna February 1, 2016 at 1:15 PM #

    This pimping out of young children is being done by their parents. It is more frequent than the average person thinks.

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