Walid Juffali

St. Lucia Facebook Page Censors Alternative View on Walid Juffali

Walid Juffali

Walid Juffali with former wife Christine Estrada

Freedom of expression is often taken for granted by the many who comment on Barbados Underground blog. One does not have to agree with views expressed by others, however in a democratic society, we should always be willing to defend the right of others to disagree. Usually when alternative ideas contend the big winner is the opportunity to learn.

Last week David of BU posted a few comments on the subject of the granting of diplomatic status to Walid Juffali, a Saudi billionaire by the St. Lucia government on a Facebook Group  Saint Lucians Aiming for Progress (SLAP). In our view our comments were strong but not abusive.  To the surprise of the BU household the administrators – Cynthia Joseph and Shelton Daniel blocked David from membership of the Group.

Here is the discussion that led to David’s (BU) expulsion from the Facebook Page for the BU family to judge for themselves. The BU household is always willing to learn if mistakes were made.

Augustin Charles

December 27, 2015 at 11:41pm

I AM PREPARED TO FIGHT FOR MY COUNTRY . . . ARE YOU?

I saw the Juffali story being used again by the international press and its agents in St. Lucia to sully my country’s good name!

I saw the highly conjectural Tabloid piece by Harriet Alexander and I immediately threw away my “festive coat” to come to the defense of my country. I have said ad nauseam that it does not matter which party forms the government, the bottom line is my country comes first!

In my quest to defend my country’s good name, I started with a Google search on the writer “Harriet Alexander” who penned the story and I was better able to put the story in perspective. However, I have reserved some of my core views pending further due diligence and research.

I will say this though: I don’t believe that the British government has contemplated an intervention – far less having “intervened” to the extent that the writer alleged. The British is one of the best practitioners and exemplars of international diplomacy. However, if what the writer alleged were the case, then it would be a serious encroachment on our sovereignty and the British Government would be setting a very dangerous, unparalleled and historical precedent tantamount to an act of recolonization!

Let us juxtapose the Juffali matter to the Assange matter: why have the British have not gone into the Ecuadorian Embassy to arrest JULIAN ASSANGE and why would they want to intervene into St. Lucia’s diplomatic business?

It is on the bases outline above (and more to come) that the Harriet Alexander story cannot be tenable.

Nonetheless, let’s do a quick logical dissection of it. For argument’s sake, let us agree that it is built on “two essential threads of truth”

The first thread is the first paragraph, to wit: “Britain has intervened in the battle to strip a Saudi Arabian billionaire of his diplomatic immunity, following claims that he was using his position to protect his fortune from his ex-wife.”

The second thread is the sixth paragraph: “Now the Foreign Office has intervened, The Telegraph understands, writing to ask St Lucia to waive Mr Juffali’s diplomatic immunity for the purpose of the legal proceedings.”

The first thread is largely axiomatic but the second is purely conjectural! When we juxtapose the two, the second thread totally destroys the first thread by way of contradiction; and hence, that juxtaposition crudely exposes the intellectual dishonesty, the disingenuity of the writer. Overall, because of the lack of proper substantiation and preponderance of both explicit and explicit conjecture, I would therefore treat it as a beautiful piece of tabloid propaganda.

Amidst all that is going on, there are clear signs of collusion between elements of the opposition and elements of the press to sully our character and reputation in the international press. It is also noteworthy how the story is grounded in the “hate and mischief” politics of the opposition which are designed to bring our small country down.

Thirty six years after independence/freedom from Great Britain, it is sad that Kenny may have to fight the same battle which Sir John fought against the international press – the very Sir John who formed the UWP which is in the vanguard to dirty our good name overseas!

I am prepared to fight for my country! Are you?

MORE TO COME!

 

Britain intervenes to strip Saudi billionaire of diplomatic immunity ahead of divorce case

Walid Juffali, a Saudi billionaire in the midst of a £4 billion divorce battle from a former Pirelli calendar model, faces losing his diplomatic immunity following…

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T. Nigel Toussaint

T. Nigel Toussaint Augustine Charles, I have an even simpler way to answer the question. Just ask the PM or the Minister of foreign affairs if they have received such a request. All this conjecture, verbiage, is not necessary, is it? Don’t u think the PM would give you a straight answer?

Like · 5 · December 28, 2015 at 12:14am

Augustin Charles

Augustin Charles You’re missing the broader point T. Nigel Toussaint. It’s simpler than your rhetorical questions.

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Linus St Clair

Linus St Clair My question would be what does Chastnet and his blind supporters expect to gain if a diplomatic war ensues between us and the British; All becuz of an American woman’s rapacious disposition???

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Stephen James

Stephen James Augustin Charles, I’m curious. What precisely is the “broader point” that T. Nigel Toussaint is missing. Please spell it out in some details, at least, for my benefit; I also may have missed it. Still, in the meantime, you could seek a confirmation or …See More

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T. Nigel Toussaint

T. Nigel Toussaint The broader picture: the writer is not credible so it’s likely that the British government did not make a request of St Lucia and it’s thus propaganda- that bigger Augustin Charles?

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David King

David King Then it is up to the St.Lucia government to issue a statement and remove the speculation from public space.

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Julian Williams

Julian Williams Here is the most important part of the story which came at the end! “”More than 20,000 people are entitled to diplomatic immunity in the UK. Earlier this year it …See More

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Bernard Haynes

Bernard Haynes These people will stop at nothing, will drag themselves in the gutter, to think that they will ascend to the high office of the land. They are banking on this one irrelevant story which they are themselves in cohort with the writers to produce. All of a sudden there’s a lot of interesting information in the English tabloids that their paid journalist are now finding.

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Sylvester Desir

Sylvester Desir The question i wish to ask here is this: When our national sovereignty appears to be threatened or insulted ,why are we selective about our reaction in such instances? Is it that we consider this particular matter to be of fa more serious degree to …See More

Like · December 28, 2015 at 12:58am

Augustin Charles

Augustin Charles Stephen James . . . I’m surprised that you missed the broader point. I will give you sometime to figure it out.

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Augustus Vitalien

Augustus Vitalien theres something about that story that just doesnt add up i have heard from ernest and huntley that the diplomatic immunity doesnt aply in the case the ex wife wants to take to court so no i want to no who am i to belive english tabioids or the two gentle

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Linus St Clair

Linus St Clair Check the facts! The Geneva Convention…

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Sylvester Desir

Sylvester Desir That’s where i get confused.

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Sylvester Desir

Sylvester Desir If any party ,at any given time,recent past or present is willing to sell its country,followed by its supporters, for a few pieces of silver ,in the name political expediency ,then we are heading to hell,possibly to oblivion!!!

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Stephen James

Stephen James Augustin Charles, as stated in an earlier post, I miss the “broader point”; I have already given your OP some thought as I read it thoroughly. I’m depending on you to help me recognize it. Additionally, I still believe that it would be useful and valu…See More

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Julian Williams

Julian Williams Here is the most important part of the story which came at the end! “”More than 20,000 people are entitled to diplomatic immunity in the UK. Earlier this year it was revealed that Scotland Yard’s diplomatic protection group had flagged up 14 ‘serious a…See More

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Stephen James

Stephen James Julian Williams, Please note the following statements from the referenced article:
“But now, the British Government has taken the highly unusual step of intervening on her behalf….See More

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Augustin Charles

Augustin Charles Stephen . . . I love my country.

Like · 1 · December 28, 2015 at 1:16am

Stephen James

Stephen James Meaning?

Like · December 28, 2015 at 1:17am

T. Nigel Toussaint

T. Nigel Toussaint Love is the broader point?

Like · 1 · December 28, 2015 at 1:40am

Sylvester Desir

Sylvester Desir Convenient love?

Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:31am

Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee Make no mistake about it,the Story has been Sourced by the Daily Mail. It may have been written in the TORYGRAPH as a follow up but, Lord Rothermere and his Editor, Paul Dacre are the TRUE Source of the Story. They have GOOD Reasons for the Story. N…See More

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David King

David King The point of the story we should be focused on is why has the government given diplomatic status to the Saudi who has NOT attended one meeting in the capacity to date.Leave the rhetoric at the door!

Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:23am

Julian Williams

Julian Williams There are many meetings by that IMO and meetings are not attended by every member. There are technical meetings for technical experts, there are policy meetings and there also specific meetings of member states and also meetings of the various committe…See More

Like · 1 · December 28, 2015 at 6:36am

David King

David King To repeat, the report in the UK press stated not one meeting was attended by the Saudi. Clarification is required and NOT generalizations.

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee you obviously seem to know the Daily Mail more than me and millions of others shouting from your Sedentary position since, you call it Rhetoric. I suppose, your take is GOSPEL or GODSPELL

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee he obviously does, since he thinks that the Daily Mail is the biggest selling Newspaper in the UK. Obviously, his flight landed late from Mars lol

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Bernard Haynes

Bernard Haynes Well Allen Allan Amedee just wanted to be sure you know what you know and I didn’t just believe what you said I had to confirm with my aunt who is one of the most avid book worm and newspaper reader I have ever come across in England and she has just confirmed with me that the sun newspaper is the most credible and the biggest paper in circulation .

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David King

David King There is a bigger point to ponder as well. Under the Revised Treaty of Chagaramus Caricom citizens benefit from certain treaty obligations. What are the implications given the citizen for investment and other schemes where citizenship is being awarded for economic considerations by some Caricom countries..

Like · 1 · December 28, 2015 at 6:30am

David King

David King Allan Amedee you need to read with comprehension, regards.

Like · 1 · December 28, 2015 at 6:32am

Titus Francis

Titus Francis If this story is to be taken seriously London should recall its ambassador. I believe hell might freeze over before this happens.

Like · December 28, 2015 at 7:48am

Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee Tell that to the Brits, Americans, Canadians, Australians, other European Countries and the other Caribbean Countries listed in last weeks Feature in WSJ – Wall Street Journal – and countless countries around the globe

Like · 2 · December 28, 2015 at 6:34am

Frank Charles

Frank Charles Bolo always spot on. However this story continue as what it is celebrity gossip.

Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:35am

Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee David king, don’t worry, i didn’t go to school on Sundays and Bank holidays. Cheeky Bugger

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Sylvester Desir

Sylvester Desir Gentlemen,no need to get personal ,stay on course,please.

Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:36am

David King

David King To clarify, the point about leaving the rhetoric at the door was directed to those commenting on the topic.

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Sylvester Desir

Sylvester Desir My question is why the deep interest in that particular matter when there were/are others where our national dignity was /is involved?

Like · 1 · December 28, 2015 at 6:39am

David King

David King Cant we talk and chew gum at the same time? There is a lot at stake here given the deep pockets of those involved. The government of St. Lucia needs to clarify the matter and remove the speculation. Until they do people every where will comment based on the info available in the public space.

Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:42am

Augustus Vitalien

Augustus Vitalien Can someone tell me in how many papers this story appeared in England and how many newspapers are there in England please I need to no if you have the info please share it

Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:39am

Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee David King, maybe, you should stop making political points without the slightest clue of what you’re talking about. just plain Partisan Politics

Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:39am

David King

David King Sir I am blogmaster for a Barbados based blog. My interest is based on following regional and world affairs. Hope this clarifies it for you. The matter is gaining currency in the UK and it is in the interest of your government to issue a statement. What I have found is that Caribbean governments do not do “transparency” well.

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee Which uk is it gaining currency. Please educate me. I’m involved in UK Politics and i’ll consider myself more in the know than you are from your lofty position. Please tell me more. I’m interested

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Sylvester Desir

Sylvester Desir The other matter is why is there such a high degree of ignorance on such an important matter?

Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:40am

Frank Charles

Frank Charles Augustus Vitalien I have said this is just celebrity gossip

Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:41am

Sylvester Desir

Sylvester Desir Lord help us with our educated elite!!!!

Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:42am

Augustus Vitalien

Augustus Vitalien I understand what you saying but to does who are pushing it forward let us know in how many papers this story appeared in

Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:43am

Augustus Vitalien

Augustus Vitalien To me if this is such a high profile case it should be appearing in more than one newspaper

Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:44am

David King

David King What you need to ask is if there is credence to the story. In other words, is there truth!

Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:46am

Augustus Vitalien

Augustus Vitalien Well if you have any info about if there’s any truth to the the story please share with us

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee Augustus Vitalien, In the British Press, the Story can be printed in a Provincial and through network, depending on what ANGLE or AGENDA is being pursued, then followed up in the Tabloid or Broadsheets. So it either here nor there. However, the Origin of this Story and it’s Angle and Agenda has much to be desired. SLU is the least of the coniderations of the Story

Like · 2 · December 28, 2015 at 6:48am · Edited

Sylvester Desir

Sylvester Desir Ignorance on the part of the English gvt,our diplomats,our gvt.,and the wife’s lawyer. Where/when will this crap end?

Like · 1 · December 28, 2015 at 6:45am

Linus St Clair

Linus St Clair Sylvester it will not end until people like you call on Allen to put love for Saint Lucia in action…!!!

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Sylvester Desir

Sylvester Desir St. Clair,such issues are more complex than,either Allen or Antony. Its about patriotism and nationalism. Political convenience must be thrown out of the window!!! I do not like my country being insulted. Its time this matter is legally clarified once and for all!!!!

Like · December 28, 2015 at 7:04am

Stephen James

Stephen James Sylvester Desir, be more specific. Who are the people insulting our country or causing insults to it/ And what is the nature of that insult?

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Frank Charles

Frank Charles Linus St Clair de man is a smart man he don’t follow fool

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Ananias Verneuil

Ananias Verneuil remember a picture of Chastnet taken with a group of white,right wing conservatives, this could be the scratch back.

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David King

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Like · December 28, 2015 at 6:53am

Julian Williams

Julian Williams David King, PM Owen Arthur would have told you to suck your rasssole! God blind yuh. Cant you understand what the meaning of a Maritime organization and what it does? You johhhni! lol Cant you understand although nations can become a member of the IMO…See More

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Augustin Charles

Augustin Charles Suppose the story by Harriet Alexander is true (and I’m arguing that it is false) and that the British has in fact encroached on our sovereignty asking us to strip Mr Juffali of his ambassadorial status (a position which Earl Huntley explained is not n…See More

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David King

David King This has nothing to do with being patriotic Sir, this is a simple case of the government addressing the issue squarely in the public space. Let me be honest and say I cannot fathom why the government of St. Lucia would confer such status on a stranger on the basis of economic considerations. There is something distasteful about it.

Like · December 28, 2015 at 7:19am

Joy Francis

Joy Francis Yes… but the flat out exchanging of our passports for favours/money from rich foreigners who have no/little actual interest in SLU does not “encroach on our sovereignty.” OK

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee Oh dear, i’ve had the biggest laugh that i’ve had for a long time and maybe the best B4 year end. Amazing when some people think that they’re in the know and knows NOWT. Seperate issue, never mind lol

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee LOL. It must be said. This guy is coming on here with all his Bluster giving Credence to a story emanating from the bowels of the Daily Mail from Lord Rothermere and his Editor Paul Dacre for reasons that i’m only too aware of. And to add insult to inj…See More

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee SLU just happens to be the punch bag in this scenario, it could have been any country, even the Mighty US of A. What must be explained is, the Relationship between the Divorcee, her Lawyer and Daily Mail’s Editor Paul Dacre. Moreover, their relationsh…See More

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Nadia Cazaubon

Nadia Cazaubon The Government of Saint Lucia MUST NEVER RESPOND TO A TABLOID. That should be left up to patriotic Saint Lucian journalists to do research and publish in established newspapers or rival tabloids.

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Deborah Coster Emmanuel

Deborah Coster Emmanuel Yes, his ex is well connected and using every means she can to get this diplomatic wall removed….give her the money…you were dumb enough or in love enough not to do a prenup..pay up

Like · December 28, 2015 at 9:39am

David King

David King There will be speculation until the facts are revealed by an authoritative source. So far there has been no comment by those who profess to know about the non attendance to the IMO Assembly sessions of the Saudi who was gifted a St. Lucia passport.

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Julian Williams

Julian Williams and thats all King is interested in from that story! As a Bajan journalist, you can go to their offices in London and inquire about his non-attendance and get first hand info from them. Why should the SLU government stoop low to appease a bajan writing in some petty blog with info!

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee The King is lost uo his own Gullet. He has the Audacity to tell me of All people that the Daily Mail is the Biggest Circulating Newspaper in Brutain. In the Interest of Public Decency, I better put Bones in my Tongue, just this once

Like · December 28, 2015 at 12:27pm

Marlyn Francis

Marlyn Francis There is no evidence that Mr Juffali is trying to dodge paying his second wife any divorce settlement… Someone came up with this story and passed it to the press. The St Lucian Gov’t asked Mr Juffali to represent the island because of his “well-estab…See More

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee Thank You Marilyn. Hope you had a good Xmas and All the best for 2016. One Love

Like · 2 · December 28, 2015 at 2:14pm

Marlyn Francis

Marlyn Francis Nice to see you back Alllan.. I wish you and your family a Happy New Year. smile emoticon

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Aagee Simpson

Aagee Simpson Hey,,36 years after independence,,the queen is still our head of state,,everything is still royal,,the governor represents the queen,,her face is on our money,,the privy council is still our highest court and so on and so on..Britiania still on high.

Like · December 28, 2015 at 4:45pm

Marlyn Francis

Marlyn Francis STATEMENT FROM THE SLU GOV’T>>>The current issue centres around a divorce case involving Dr. Juffali and his former wife. The parties were formally divorced in Saudi Arabia but the former wife decided to launch civil proceedings against her former husb…See More

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Bernard Haynes

Bernard Haynes Marlyn Francis don’t you think that they know that. They are just being deliberate and mischievous. Grasping at straws. People are in a festive mood and so they think everyone is drunk. So time to send the mud it will stick.

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee I’m happy to Expose that Vacuous News Outlet wit just 2 Phone calls to the FCO and the HO tomorrow. It will nonetheless be wasted because ir’s such a NON Story

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Marlyn Francis

Marlyn Francis I believe so Bernard.. Some not so clever people or UWP supporters will read this BS and believe it, they need to be educated on this matter.

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Afrosaxonheat Ash

Afrosaxonheat Ash Why would you even dignify the drivel coming out of this right wing paper with any comment? The hothead hack who wrote this had nothing to write on the day and simply lifted this piece of rhetoric from another right wing paper namely the Mail. This is not original nor is it exclusive. It’s regurgitated stuff.

Like · 1 · December 28, 2015 at 5:42pm

Maron Samuel

Maron Samuel Just yesterday I commented on another article with reference to this….”The Government seek to have immunity waived in serious criminal cases where a sentence of more than 12 months would apply if a conviction was secured.” There is no criminal activity in a divorce case where a party is seeking compensation, therefore this article is just “rubbish”.

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee What gets me is, some of these “So Called” Intelligent Commentators conveniently Wrap themselves in the Flag and Call themselves PATRIOTS. We should have our Version of the Tower of London is SLU, what a potent remedy

Like · 1 · December 28, 2015 at 6:28pm

Ca Cha

Ca Cha No need to fight when a freelance journalist rights these things when article 31 of the Geneva convention states
. Article 31 1.A diplomatic agent shall enjoy immunity from the criminal jurisdiction of the receiving State. He shall als…See More

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Augustus Vitalien

Augustus Vitalien The more I watch the local news is the more am convinced there’s a conspiracy against the government how can you say gow chasss is in hospital according to online reports and don’t say the same thing for the Dr juffali news item did anyone contacted the government here or in England to confirm the story so if all u didn’t confirm the story it should be online report smh

Like · December 28, 2015 at 7:41pm

Elizabeth Charles

Elizabeth Charles These UWP’S drowning men are catching at straws.The whole Dr.Juffali affair has been discussed on several shows but no conveniently they will not stop.They see this as political ammunition. As for that Barbadian David King fix up your own problems in your country and leave ours .We are quite capable to handle our affairs. January 8th the deadline given is not far let’s see what will they do next.

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee That King is a Jackass. The man elected ti boast to me that he’s an ACE Blogger on Regional and International Affaiirs and then proceeded to tell me of ALL people that The Daily Mail “Daily Who” is the Biggest Circulating Newspaper in Britain. He’s obv…See More

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Bernard Haynes

Bernard Haynes OK again I just got off the phone with my aunt from England and this is how she explained the newspapers to me. Intelligent people who are aware of their intellect will read the Independent or the Guardian newspaper if you want to read a tabloid while…See More

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Douglas Trotman

Douglas Trotman Had a read of the article and the comments made. I find this interesting… My red herring!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/…/MPs-expenses-Tory-MP…

 

MPs’ expenses: Tory MP Andrew Rosindell has childhood home as main address

TELEGRAPH.CO.UK|BY BY JON SWAINE AND CAROLINE GAMMELL

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Virnet Fontenelle

Virnet Fontenelle The assumption is simple, Harriet things we eat from troughs down here

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David King

David King Here is the story carried in the UK Telegraph on the 26 December 15, Bernard Haynes are you reading?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/…/Britain-intervenes-to…

 

Britain intervenes to strip Saudi billionaire of diplomatic immunity ahead of divorce…

TELEGRAPH.CO.UK

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David King

David King Circulation of UK newspapers by reach, and this is important if the St. Lucia brand is being discussed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_newspapers_in_the…

 

List of newspapers in the United Kingdom by circulation – Wikipedia, the free…

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee Oh dear, you said that you’re in the Information Business and you’re using Wikipedia as an authentic Guide. Give me a Break. That self editing Junk. You do need a Saniity and Reality check

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David King

David King If you had read the link you would have noted it cites the authoritative source the Audit Bureau of Circulations (UK).

Like · December 29, 2015 at 4:50am

Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee You can’t tell me nothing about the UK FACT. Especially, from your Sedentary position. Tell your half baked nonsense to some other Pleb

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David King

David King Typical response when confronted with a fact. Bottomline the two UK newspapers which carried this story have the highest circulation in the UK. FACT! Later Sir.

Like · December 29, 2015 at 4:56am

Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee Keep on Gassing empty head. i will not entertain a Fool who thinks that he knows so much yet, elects to tell me of ALL people that the Mail is the Biggest Circulating British Daily. Something that every British Primary school Kid knows is patently False. And i’ll tell you that for NOWT, don’t need a Postman. Jellied Eel, Yellow Belly Invertebrate

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee Now since you’re so intelligent and knowledgeable about the British Newspaper Scene then you would have heard of the “PAGE 7 Article”.It’s the sort of story that so much importance is attached to it that it’s relegated and/or hidden to little column i…See More

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee For a man who, only yesterday boasted or attempted to, as a Information Purveyor of note and significant repute on International Affairs , amongst other discipline. I find you terribly lacking and your knowledge on your professed Discipline, WANTING. Your self deluding Significance and Self Importance is only surpassed by your very own Insignificance

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Amatus Edwards

Amatus Edwards I await the official responses.

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Augustin Charles

Augustin Charles My bro Amatus Edwards. . . Seasons greetings! Shouldn’t your response have been the official response of our news media or at least shouldn’t they have concluding caveat in that regard while they pursue their own independent verification and research? …See More

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Douglas Trotman

Douglas Trotman David I can’t help but notice that you have two fans… Julian Williams and Allan Amedee.

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee That IDIOT should have not Rattled my Cage. I elected to put bones in my tongue yesterday but, when foreign ingrates and imbeciles choose to denegrate my Homeland and using the type of Foreign Tabloid Trash as justification. I don’t need an invitation to that challenge and a fight that I welcome

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Amatus Edwards

Amatus Edwards Comrade Augustin Charles all those ‘should’ and ‘shouldn’t’s is getting me ‘bahzoodee’. People do things the way that they want to suit their purposes. If this was about the UWP, I bet your responses here would be different.

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Tenny Andrew

Tenny Andrew When these two were having their sex where were the tabloids?

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Augustus Vitalien

Augustus Vitalien Mr Edwards wen slp post something in here they does always provide u will the evidence of prove to back it so if uwp did the same there wouldn’t have had that back and forth with this story

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Tenny Andrew

Tenny Andrew Everything that has to be said about this has already been said. These people should just be ignored. Let them talk to themselves. Cause surely this story is on life support and the Allen faction is there to ensure that the flat line is delayed.

 

Tenny Andrew's photo.

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Augustin Charles

Augustin Charles Brother Amatus Edwards . . . AA! I was giving you a much-deserved plug and just so you allowed yourself to be drawn into the wormhole of party politics. I thought you were better at reading the lines, what’s between them, the higher stakes involved and naturally the broader picture . . . but I’ll leave it at that!

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David King

David King @Bernard Haynes. The matter of who reads what in the UK newspapers is a matter, largely, of personal taste combined with political viewpoints. Also, some newspapers provide specific topics of interest to specific readers. Your aunt is obviously a suppo…See More

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee That’s how much you kmow. The mail is a Gossip Rag, more commonly known amongst us Brits for Weather stories and is in desperate need of a subject matter since the death of Princess Diana because One of every other front Page was dominated by a D…See More

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee Newspaper reading in the UK, maybe Political – that’s only or mainly amongst Broadsheet readers and more than Political, it’s Social and Educational demography – But, in general, Tabloid readers tends more of a Enviromental and Social Demography. For …See More

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Bernard Haynes

Bernard Haynes Papa David King I don’t live in England and I know nothing about English newspapers, and I will dare not argue with a German educator which is the best paper in Germany nor with a Spaniard which is the best paper in Spain, especially if they have been …See More

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Allan Amedee

Allan Amedee that boy is a Jackass. Saying Plenty and meaning NOWT. The fool is so wrong about Britain, he doesn’t merit a response. And he claims to be in the Information/News Business. There’s NEWS and BASEMENT NEwS. It appropriately describes and ascribes to t…See More

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Atcha Banton

Atcha Banton Important baytease!!!!!

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65 Comments on “St. Lucia Facebook Page Censors Alternative View on Walid Juffali”

  1. Well Well & Consequences2 January 3, 2016 at 4:59 AM #

    Even the dull and ignorant, they too have their story, yet most St. Lucians in 2016 still would not know that it’s because of the british that they can say they have diplomatic business, hopefully they can understand what that means and figure out the rest.

    I could not even go through half the comments. I see St. Lucia is filled with ACs and Alvins, some of whom even reside in England. David, you do have patience. Only one or two are even willing to address the fact that the St.Lucian people/electorate/taxpayers did not even know that they have an Arab dude representing them as an ambassador. The Anthony government did not think them important enough to notify them about a decision now affecting the country.

    Most of the posters cannot even articulate that St. Lucia’s now ‘looking bad’ and being scrutinized is a direct result of Anthony’s disrespect, disdain for his own people and secret deals he has going with the Arab dude, his actions caused the article…….this is what happens when you have a Caribbean filled with ACs and Alvins…..these people still have many decades to go and many generations who will have to fight for recognition and respect from their own leaders….England and their newspapers are not the problem, it’s the individual local leaders from every affected and infected island where the people have to fight greed, arrogance and corruption.

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  2. TheGazer January 3, 2016 at 7:21 AM #

    I like how they completely skirted the issue and attempted to tell people which English paper to have as their source of news.

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  3. Togetherness January 3, 2016 at 11:00 AM #

    Why is this news? The low islands nowadays called OECS have a history of welcoming white foreigners with ill gotten gains to their shores. The cash rich arrivals then embarrass and cause trouble for the respective countries. Foreign criminals domiciled in Grenada under Gairy’s watch. Keith Mitchell all now trying to shake off accusations of a German financier and a suitcase of money. Sir Allen Stanford the notorious ponzi king serving a life sentence in USA was knighted by Antigua leaders.

    Canada took away St. Kitts visa waiver after Iranians with St. Kitts passports turned up on their watch list. St. Vincent and Gonzalves harbored the man who tried to build Harlequin Hotel in Barbados. The same chap faced the law courts in UK for bilking investors. It wouldn’t surprise if the St. Lucia billionaire diplomat from terrorist Saudi Arabia doesn’t know where that island is located. The Caribbean must up their game on con men, fugitives and liars slipping into our societies based on their claims to wealth. That wealth is often accumulated by criminal means. A warning to the wise is enough.

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  4. Sargeant January 3, 2016 at 12:05 PM #

    I didn’t read all the comments but two things come to mind:

    1) My country right or wrong
    2) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel

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  5. Vincent Haynes January 3, 2016 at 1:46 PM #

    @David

    Chuckle……looks like you entered a nest of party hacks akin to you know who overhere.

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  6. Hants January 3, 2016 at 3:24 PM #

    @David who wrote “There is a bigger point to ponder as well. Under the Revised Treaty of Chagaramus Caricom citizens benefit from certain treaty obligations.”

    It seems most of your “Lucian attackers” did not get the point you raised.

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  7. Well Well & Consequences2 January 3, 2016 at 3:48 PM #

    Hants…it’s just as if they live in an alternate universe, they understand nothing that makes sense because of party affiliation or blind ‘patriotism’ not unlike DBLP card carrying, bible thumping, homegrown political nuts in Barbados, it’s like an infectious disease with no cure.

    Thing is, none of them, just like the politicians, understand what patriotism means in it’s real form, they cannot seem to separate the word from yardfowlism and that’s the downfall. 50 more years of that nonsense in the Caribbean and they will find themselves re colonized years after it happens.

    The education system in the region is obviously failing, starting with the politicians. There needs to be a reassessment as it pertains to political science, whatever they are teaching those taking the course, is obviously destructive in content, seeing as they all, or most, tend to do the same things once elected…….that is, make themselves and the people in their countries look like the lowest of common criminals, when more often than not, most of the population is clueless to the mischief Caribbean politicians get up to in the people’s names..

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  8. Amused January 3, 2016 at 4:19 PM #

    @David. Oh well, I see that St Lucians are as caught up in their own little bubble as many others in the region. I wonder what they will do when the UK leads the charge to deny this man diplomatic immunity and grabs his assets AND declares him persona non grata in the UK? You can be sure that all the other signatories to the Vienna Convention will also deny diplomatic immunity. But of course, it will never come to that. The UK foreign office will summon the SLU High Commissioner, deliver a dressing down and hand him a diplomatic note and the SLU government will quietly make it all go away by withdrawing diplomatic immunity – and hope none of the idiots notice that they have climbed down. But I hope that both Mail and Telegraph do notice and report it.

    BTW, were you aware that SLAP in St Lucia is generally held to be the St Lucia Animal Protection Society?

    In the UK, Slap is a colloquialism for makeup; e.g. “(S)he is really slapped up. The Urban Dictionary http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slapper defines a “slapper” as, “an ugly girl whose main priority in life is to get fu***d!” and provides the example of use, “na man she is just a dirty slapper.”

    So, my friend, it is my belief that you are well out of the company of the slapped-up slappers of SLAP. AND you did give them a very/jolly good slap!

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  9. Well Well & Consequences2 January 3, 2016 at 4:24 PM #

    Then there is the decades old tradition of lawyers and doctors automatically qualifying as politicians to manage or in too many cases, mismanage a country, what qualifications do these individuals possess to actually manage a country besides a law degree, to read the law and a medical degree to practice medicine.

    In DLP 2008, most of them had no political experience 7 years ago, outside of their chosen professions. Is politician not a profession in and of itself and if it is, should the candidates not be trained as politicians, with the requisite years of experience. Should it not also be a disciple with all the rules of ethics and morals that apply, separate from the constitution and parliamentary rules and practices. When these new politicians volunteer and present themse
    Ves to represent the people, are there no rules that apply to their behaviors or are they suddenly elevated to untouchables, which is now seen as counterproductive to what should obtain.

    It seems like over the last 40 years that every jackass and johnny come lately just pops up and proclaim themselves politicians and then the downward spiral for the islands begins, because they have no experience in managing a country, so of course the easiest route would be bribery, corruption and greed….although in Kenny Anthony’s case, am sure he was PM just before the dude Compton, who died, or just after, so what is the problem, he should know better.

    Politics has been turned into a dangerous and destructive joke with taxpayers as victims.

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  10. ac January 3, 2016 at 4:35 PM #

    is this supposed to be news what so news worthy being blocked on a face book page Or could it be that the person being blocked (david) is overly sensitive and is in dire need of a “:pity” party and a genital (gentile ) massage
    Suffice it to say that the story is still on face book and allowing differing point of views ,
    Umm wasn’t it recently on the topic of corporal punishment bajans told the British Ambassador to keep his nose out of barbados business,
    Could it be that the same vigilance of protectionism Bajans show for this country St Lucians have for their homeland and would fight tooth and nail against outside interference or busy bodies

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  11. Amused January 3, 2016 at 4:47 PM #

    @ac. I have long suspected, and am now sure, that in order to blow your brains out, a body would have to shoot you in the ass.

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  12. David January 3, 2016 at 4:58 PM #

    @ Amused

    Good one!

    BU understands the St. Lucia government held a citizen for investment function last week. It appears many of the islands in the Eastern Caribbean are moving full steam ahead with selling passports for money. You may recall Stuart floated the idea in Barbados until Donville snorted on it.

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  13. ac January 3, 2016 at 5:58 PM #

    So i see rather than block ac one would prefer to shoot ac in the a.ss intersting words coming from a professor of law and a legal arm of the barbados justice system.
    Btw was it not a few days ago there were voices calling for your articles not to be posted on bu .you need to chill bro

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  14. Well Well & Consequences2 January 3, 2016 at 6:05 PM #

    I did say yardfowls in the Caribbean live in an alternate universe, that said, their brains being at the end of their spinal columns is not so far fetched…..lol

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  15. ac January 3, 2016 at 6:06 PM #

    Amused did you really make such an asinine ststement are you ready/ prepared to defend that such vague threats against ac in a court of law.

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  16. ac January 3, 2016 at 6:16 PM #

    Shite man if you want to defend your friend go ahead i have as much right to a differing opinion on any subject as David belives he had in stating opposing comments on the issue at least no one threatened to blow David brains out. You ought to be ashamed of yourself professor

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  17. Well Well & Consequences2 January 3, 2016 at 7:30 PM #

    At least they too know where their brains are situated…lol

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  18. ac January 3, 2016 at 8:25 PM #

    amused you shit head wunda how you would feel if some one threatened the life of your wife you think you so intelligent words of threats can come back to bite you in the ass hole jack ass don’t think that what you say here cant be held against your black asss in a court guess you too fking stupid to figure that out that wid all the free education you received

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  19. ac January 3, 2016 at 8:31 PM #

    David get block on face book and it is the end of the world then this ignorant a hole amused come guns flying to blow my brains out what a low life scum bag . Negro be careful wid yuh idle threats cause yuh dont know who yuh fooling wid

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  20. ac January 3, 2016 at 9:11 PM #

    Amused i already have my lawyers put the spot light on your dead ass if you ever come on bu threatening ac ever you will see whose asss would be shot up negro

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  21. Georgie Porgie January 3, 2016 at 9:12 PM #

    Amused January 3, 2016 at 4:47 PM #
    @ac. I have long suspected, and am now sure, that in order to blow your brains out, a body would have to shoot you in the ass.
    AMUSED
    CAN YOU ILLUCIDATE AND ILLUMINATE ON THIS ANATOMY OF AC

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  22. NorthernObserver January 3, 2016 at 10:58 PM #

    seems ac has gone dc.
    It is good for your blood pressure, keep calm and continue promoting anything DLP as is your custom.

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  23. Hants January 3, 2016 at 11:20 PM #

    @ Georgie Porgie ,

    In Canadian slang we say “she or he has shit for brains”.

    GOOD INNINGS BY CARLOS.

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  24. bajans January 4, 2016 at 12:35 AM #

    @Hants
    I am not too sure about that. Up here we say they “sit on their brains”. But Ottawa way up North, so the lingo different.

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  25. de Ingrunt Word January 4, 2016 at 3:00 AM #

    LOLL @ Vincent Haynes January 3, 2016 at 1:46 PM …as I read the comments I had the same perspective. The fella AA had me concerned for a moment that our A- Z peeps had teleported there. Exact same mental map as displayed by our “you know who overhere”.

    And @David, bro you got some warm lashes over there…but you are accustomed after these years as a vocal critic. Was impressed by your equilibrium and staying factual.

    The story of the divorce proceedings between these two is an ‘excellent’ non-story that provides the gateway to the real story of ‘mal-practices by regional governments on this citizenship by investment process.

    As highlighted by one of Jeff’s columns and as clearly evidenced by issues with Europe border weaknesses the islands who abuse that process will incur the wrath of the larger western democracies re immigration practices towards citizens holding their credentials.

    And it puts pressure on other regional countries viv-a-vis our own free-movement of nationals.

    Of course the problem has always been there (wealthy South Africans of the apartheid era traveling on other country passports, for example) but in this modern era of terrorist threats it now has a much more foreboding shadow.

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  26. Well Well & Consequences2 January 4, 2016 at 3:45 AM #

    AC really twisted herself out of shape with that one……lol….

    Local island governments rely on the ignorance of their people to survive. They feed on that ignorance and milk it for all that it’s worth and for as many decades as they are allowed.

    However, while on their power trips they always seem to forget that someone somewhere is watching them. That is why taxpayers should never keep anything politicians do a secret, since no ethics rules and procedures have been developed in the Caribbean to keep them in check and jail them in punishment for crimes and abuses while in office.

    Now their yardfowls are a whole nother dilemma which requires further analysis, they are special at a level that defies the lowest degree of mental retardation, because of their joint inability to rationalize.

    There are two live ones on here, so naturally the population of ACs and Alvins have proven themselves to be dangerous to the progress of any society, particularly small island societies.

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  27. David January 4, 2016 at 4:23 AM #

    @Dee Word and Well Well

    Agree with your last comments 100%, the ignorance of the people by waiving the right to hold the political class accountable is the root of all our problems.

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  28. Well Well & Consequences2 January 4, 2016 at 4:57 AM #

    The population’s ignorance has been over used as a tool and ploy against them by small island politicians for decades David. I remember hearing as a child Grenadians referring to that nutcase Eric Gairy as Papa Gairy, who had a Mongoose Gang to keep them in line, since they had not finessed the use of yardfowls yet, strong arming was still in vogue.

    The people believed back then and loudly elucidated that had it not been for Papa Gairy, they would not know how to wear panties, of course Gairy neglected to tell them the part where had it not been for their own resilience, coupled with aid in certain areas from England, US etc…he would just have been another empty talking head.

    The use of the people’s ignorance has been fine tuned to a successful weapon over time and refined to an art form by successive politicians. They keep using the same template over and over, so much so that the wear is showing, check out St. Vincent.

    It’s only in the last decade or so that some, but not enough people in the Caribbean, are coming to the realization that they have been had for decades by lying politicians, hence the politician’s current struggles to now reinvent the wheel with more lies and more corruption. It’s now up to the people to apply pressure to render the politician’s machinations useless.

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  29. Jeff Cumberbatch January 4, 2016 at 6:32 AM #

    @ AC, January 3 @5:58pm,

    I think you may be confusing me with someone else. First, I would never use such language, and second, I agree with your analogy. In fact, it was one of the thoughts that crossed my mind when I read the material. We in the region gobble up any praise of our island…but refuse to accept any criticism of it, however constructive and well-meaning. Worse, still, from an outsider!

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  30. David January 4, 2016 at 6:54 AM #

    One of the reasons BU posted about this issue was for a couple of reasons:

    1. It reflects (as Jeff alluded) how we repel feedback from ‘outsiders’.
    2. Come of the commenters on the FB Page is a mirror of exactly how some on BU appear. Party hacks who make no effort to hold members of the party they represent accountable.

    To those who say it is not news obviously are clueless and we refer them to BU’s tagline – bring news and OPINIONS to the people.

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  31. David January 4, 2016 at 6:57 AM #

    If Barbadians are unwilling to publicly protest about water woes not sure what will. The politicians are saying, led by Kellman, it has always been the case.

    We like it so.

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  32. Amused January 4, 2016 at 7:34 AM #

    @Georgie Porgie January 3, 2016 at 9:12 PM. In making my new year’s resolution, I inadvertently copied Casewell and resolved not to engage with idiots. Say what you have to say and let them stew if they want. This particular one has me confused with some doctor of law and professor, which I am not and which seems to me that I am being confused with Jeff. I am not Jeff – I am rarely ambiguous. As for anatomy, @Hants and @Bajans have kindly answered for me.

    So placing the idiot right back into the limbo created for them by Casewell (thanks Casewell) @Dee Word and Well Well, I agree with @David on your posts. You are 100% correct in my view.

    While I may have (with sound reason) a problem with granting citizenship to someone based solely on their financial worth, I am forced to admit that these small sovereign states may need to do this for economic reasons and there is ample precedent for this in places like Monaco, Lichtenstein etc. However, to grant citizenship AND diplomatic immunity is, in my view, unacceptable and I have to wonder how many political palms were greased to accomplish this.

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  33. Bush Tea January 4, 2016 at 7:36 AM #

    @ Amused
    @ac. I have long suspected, and am now sure, that in order to blow your brains out, a body would have to shoot you in the ass.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    LOL ha ha ha ha ha ha ha wah-loss!!!

    …also, they would have to do it BEFORE she craps
    because every day she empties what little there is attempting to grow..
    …and flushes.

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  34. David January 4, 2016 at 8:20 AM #

    In the news this morning we heard that Nevis will be moving full steam ahead with citizen by investment program. Are we missing out in Barbados?

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  35. Bush Tea January 4, 2016 at 8:34 AM #

    @ David
    Bushie told you already…
    Barbados is LEADING the pack.

    We not only give FULL citizenship to foreigners, we ALSO give them our businesses, banks, utilities etc.
    We put them on the Central bank board, they chair the NIS…
    When they get fed up …or have made enough money, they then sell off to OTHER foreigners to get their turn in our donkeys….

    Shiite man… our renewable energy policies are being determined and articulated by an albino from EMERA…
    ..another one from FLOW determines how our ‘fibre network’ is to be designed…
    ..loans are approved in Trickidad and Ottawa…

    Stop criticising the mote in the eyes of other Caribbean mendicants
    and focus on the beam in our own eyes…

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  36. David January 4, 2016 at 8:51 AM #

    @Bush Tea

    Thought we do a good job of evaluating critiquing both.

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  37. ac January 4, 2016 at 9:30 AM #

    Apologies to Mr. Cumberbatch.yes your reading of what i said is correct. The issue in my thinking was not on freedom of speech but one where a protective angst on the ST. Lucian individual in question to be one of territorial and protective of the country and David felt the warth with him being blocked.
    The question being is that indivdual right or wrong to be territorial .i would argue to say not necessarily wrong and furthermore her position is a template of sincerity and stands like a soldier in battle willing to die in defence of the country .
    The fact being David comments could havebeen taken as one of a carpet bagger/ spy who had no interest in the national interest of St. Lucia but showed upon this occasion to infuse a volitile issue where his comments did more harm than good /or a high possibilty of promoting his Web site BU
    Which brings to mind all the Cahill carpetbaggers who have no interest in the national or social interest of barbados but shows up at the party to siev out what is in their self interest
    People are not stupid and can smell self interest when it shows up to the party

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  38. David January 4, 2016 at 9:37 AM #

    What a JA, and in 2016!

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  39. Well Well & Consequences2 January 4, 2016 at 10:29 AM #

    Canada vets their citizenship in exchange for money candidates very carefully, they do get many from around the world.. Barbados and by extension the Caribbean, allows all the criminals into the region as long as they SAY they are millionaires, say they have investors or are millionaies with some criminal intent or other in mind…….big difference.

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  40. ac January 4, 2016 at 1:49 PM #

    Dawg (david) that last comment was especially for people of your ilk.
    The lady was absolutely right to tell u to keep u nose out of their country businesss .
    What business u have as a bajan pointing finger in their givt policies on their home turf.No wonder the other islands take offence to our perception of them. That was an internal problem let them and britain fight it out. Who the hell is for you a carpetbagger to instigate or infuriate or suggest how the hell they run the govt. That is there problem let them deal with it. Now go ahead ban me

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  41. Amused January 4, 2016 at 2:50 PM #

    @David. It seems certain to me that, with our vital industries being…uncertain, it may well be time for us to institute such a citizens and residents scheme. BUT and it is a big but, it has to be really tight. International criminal records checks, the whole thing. But first, we have to appeal to the uber-wealthy prospects and this we are not going to do, until and unless we clear up the mess of our justice system. For if we do not, the only uber-wealthy we are going to appeal to is the criminal element. And we should certainly never sell diplomatic immunity.

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  42. David January 4, 2016 at 3:02 PM #

    @Amused

    Canada and one or two other countries target foreigners who possess the skills the country requires to sustain national development. One gets the sense our islands are selling to the highest bidder. The bottomline is for the citizenry to be vigilant and demand transparency. The case with St.Lucia the government did not advise of the Saudi ‘s appointment long after the fact.

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  43. millertheanunnaki January 4, 2016 at 3:53 PM #

    @ Amused January 4, 2016 at 2:50 PM.
    “But first, we have to appeal to the uber-wealthy prospects and this we are not going to do, until and unless we clear up the mess of our justice system. For if we do not, the only uber-wealthy we are going to appeal to is the criminal element.”

    Amused, you have presented a strong argument to support a policy of economic citizenship. However, this policy proposal is nothing new. Barbados has always been welcoming to the rich. Citizenship has always been available to them at their convenience.

    The problem here is that the “uber-wealthy” with a clean hands and business dealings are not interested in giving up their citizenship of their mother country to enjoy the right to ‘live’ in Barbados not even for mere tax evasion purposes and huge tax incentives in respect of philanthropy towards local causes.

    Rich people holding internationally recognized travel documents (say European or North American passports) find it much easier to travel the world than those holding passports issued by Caricom member states. Why would decent above-board uber-wealthy German business persons give up that advantage?

    Neither Simon Cowell nor Sir Cliff needs a Bajan passport to live in Bim.

    Let us create an environment where to the uber-wealthy living in Bim is seen as one step away from paradise. As you poignantly identified let the powers-that-be start with the cleaning up of the country’s justice system the bedrock of any democratic (free) society and viable economy.

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  44. Well Well & Consequences2 January 4, 2016 at 4:09 PM #

    I could swear the passports in the region say Caricom Community, why then can’t yardfowls see or recognize that what affects one tiny island in Caricom Community, affects them all, no matter how hard they and the politicians try to project the image of separate and distinct, none of these islands are big enough to sustain that image.

    Miller…one has to be careful suggesting to people who are unable to rationalize the concept of creating a paradise-like environment for the super wealthy, so far, because of their inability to compartmentalize, their idea of paradise-like is allowing these new citizens to commit any crime on the island without having to answer or take responsibility for their actions.

    How much longer will it take to clean up the supreme court and even when that task is done, the office of DPP Charles Leacock is known to be heavily compromised, who will fire him and clean up that office from bribery and corruption..

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  45. bajans January 4, 2016 at 5:50 PM #

    @David

    Canada does not SELL citizenship. What you get if you invest large $$$ is landed immigrant status. You still have to fulfil the residency requirements of three years, plus RCMP investigation and a clean record to get citizenship. Most of these new immigrants spend half their time here and the other half minding their businesses elsewhere.

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  46. David January 4, 2016 at 6:38 PM #

    Thanks Bajans!

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  47. ac January 4, 2016 at 8:27 PM #

    Man David ac could not help but re read the St lucia Face book page talk bout licks like peas yu got up against your nugget and deservingly so. i did not laugh or say “good one” felt a bit sorry fuh yuh backside but glad that you got to experience hot it can get when sitting on the other side boy they sure came after your ass with some hot pitch forks lol but it serve yuh right .. btw next time yuh opened mouth on other people back yard to speak please leave barbados name out of it. the basket of goods yuh carry belong to you and you alone barbados does not deserved to be whip lashed by other peoples mouthings because of one out of control smart a,ss indivual

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  48. Well Well & Consequences2 January 4, 2016 at 8:55 PM #

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/76310/beckles-sworn-judge

    New judge in the supreme court.

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  49. ac January 4, 2016 at 10:04 PM #

    This divorce case is going to be interesting especially when the British govt takes an unusual position asking for diplomatic waivers on behalf of a spouse in an ensuing divorce case, How is that possible ?
    This also smacks of “abuse of privilege ” with an unprecedented connotations whereby the privilege class can (for lack of a better term) be rude ! unmannerly calculating and overly zealous having no respect for society in general while fighting their battles in the glare of public view and expecting public outcry to be favorable to one side or another ,
    In the up and down side the British govt would have a lot of explaining to do as it seems to be championing an objective tied to a domestic affair while granting favoritism to closely connected family ties

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  50. TheGazer January 5, 2016 at 7:24 PM #

    It seems as if the islands are marching in lockstep together…
    Those who see their party as doing now wrong and can justify any course of action.
    Corruption abounds; water shortages; electric supply problems, sell out to foreigners….
    The list goes on ….

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  51. Karen January 9, 2016 at 10:33 PM #

    Shelton Daniel runs radio St. Lucia and is a well known own apologist for the Kenny Anthony administration. The Facebook page in question is a subject of amusement for many St. Lucians and a place of congregation for rabidly overzealous party hacks. The Juffali affair is scandalous and shameful and please rest assured that intelligent St. Lucians have read beneath the lines. The Government now organises it’s team of propagandists to try any media outlet or commentator that attempts to impartially discuss the issue. St .Lucia is truly becoming a banana Republic.

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  52. David January 10, 2016 at 6:23 AM #

    @Karen

    It is scary that a person who manages a radio station would be tempted to block freedom of expression at a whim.

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  53. Marie Jn Baptiste January 11, 2016 at 10:27 AM #

    This is intimidation and scare tactics at the lowest level rather than do the responsible and transparent remedy by responding with a factual statement. St. Lucians are victimized and insultingly attacked in their personal lives by labour hacks.
    The so called man on the street is actively questioning “was there some kind of exchange?

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  54. Moses Louis January 18, 2016 at 10:32 AM #

    This story is becoming more interesting.In the space of two weeks the Government of St.Lucia has been written a stern warning by the US Ambassador in Bridgetown. It then had to face a EU delegation headed by the British High Commissioner, the EU Rep for the region and the French Ambassador which also gave it a stern warning and an April deadline.Today the Telegraph and The Mail are saying that the St.Lucian Government is thumbing it’s nose at the British:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/saintlucia/12104369/St-Lucia-snubs-Britain-by-refusing-to-waive-immunity-for-Saudi-billionaire.html

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  55. David January 18, 2016 at 10:36 AM #

    A little 2×3 island will not be allowed to snub the international corp and not feel the knuckles rapped.

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  56. Wonder Woman January 25, 2016 at 2:21 PM #

    Cry baby!

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  57. David January 26, 2016 at 1:33 AM #

    PM Anthony needs to explain why this man was given the post in the first place.

    “To accede to the request would have set a dangerous precedent."

    PM Anthony gives goverment’s position on Juffali affair

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  58. MARGARET January 27, 2016 at 2:29 PM #

    Mark Stephen has impeccable credentials.
    His take:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/saintlucia/12118577/Abuse-of-diplomatic-immunity-has-to-stop.html

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  59. David January 27, 2016 at 6:39 PM #

    Thanks Magaret,St. Lucia will be made to pay in some form or fashion for refusing to waive immunity for this Saudi pariah. Here is the paragraph that given insight how our banana republic islands are seen.

    Corrupt and morally-bankrupt regimes will become a magnet for wealthy people simply looking for protection from the law. Indeed elite law firms are already rumoured to have been approached by super-rich individuals wanting to “do a Juffali” and obtain similar diplomatic privileges as a direct result of this case. Is the international community really prepared to accept the prospect of wealthy fraudsters and crooks – perhaps the next Bernie Madoff, criminals like drug kingpin El Chapo or even sponsors of terrorism – skirting around legitimate justice systems simply because they hold a diplomatic passport from an impoverished nation?

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  60. David February 9, 2016 at 6:54 PM #

    @Exclaimer

    Thanks, not in anyway surprised at how this matter is going. St. Lucia will have to pay a price.

    Here is the quote to take note of:

    “A judge ruled that Walid Juffali, who divorced Ms Estrada in 2014, had sought to defeat her action by asserting a “spurious” legal immunity based on his appointment as a Caribbean diplomat in London. ”

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