Mia Mottley, leader of the Opposition

Mia…Just Not Ready

Submitted by Douglas
Leader of the BLP Mia Mottley (l) Former Leader of the BLP Owen Arthur (r)

Leader of the BLP Mia Mottley (l) Former Leader of the BLP Owen Arthur (r)

“The challenge is, as represented in the Peter Wickham poll, that Ms Mottley . . . faces a problem of being accepted by the society at large and faces a problem of being accepted by a cross-section of the BLP,” Arthur told the media at his UWI, Cave Hill office.

“The BLP has a challenge and we have a situation where there’s not a contest […]for leadership within the party, but there is a problem in the wider Barbados society, where there is unacceptance and unacceptability of the present leader of the party,” he said, “but she has to make herself likeable, she has to be respected because people want to believe that their leaders are full of integrity . . . and she has to consider the use of power; not be feared negatively, but be understood as a person who can use power effectively.”

Extracts from 2009 Interview with Owen Arthur

Owen Arthur warned Barbados and the Barbados Labour Party about everything that is taking place now in the corridors of the Barbados Labour Party. In an interview in 2009, he spoke honestly and without malice while giving an assessment of the leadership of his “former protégée”. He advised “the challenge is to have a leader who enjoys wide acceptance and acceptability in the wider society and wide acceptance in the parliamentary party.”

Here lies the fault line, which is occurring on the eve of the party’s next annual conference. The race is on to have the Mia matter executed ahead of the Party’s conference. It is evident the “former protégée’s”arch rival and an unrepentant political acolyte of Arthur in the person of Jerome stands to benefit from this imbroglio. He stands to benefit immensely after standing down from an obvious third defeat at the hands of John Boyce.

The spin doctors in the BLP are busy at work trying to give the public the impression that the issue in Christ Church West is about Dr Maria Agard. We on this side are quite aware at the core issue is leadership. This re-occurring decimal in the thread of Opposition politics continues to define for this country what is to come if ever the BLP is elected to office.

Less we forget that what happened in Ch. Ch. West happened in the St James North and St George South candidate selections. The white elephant in the room is the apparent irregularities in the branch voters’ list or for some Mia’s list . The last recorded issues have to do the accusations of monies spent in St Joseph by the Female Club to ensure that Dale was a sure loser. Of course, no one is talking about Arthur’s concern re governance of the BLP’s edifice after he took over from his former protégée” on the last occasion. The issues there are the subject of a Barker Report.

There is clear and present danger in the Opposition way of managing the affairs of their party. What say you about the affairs of the country? It is clear that there is a danger in opposing the leadership of the Messiah.

This new brand leadership which is authored by the non male members ’club of the BLP begs the question, in whose interest is the process gaining momentum? The face of the Barbados Labour Party has changed so much since Arthur exited that is hardly recognizable beyond the Mia’s faction. She has done well to stamp her authority NOT leadership.

In a letter penned to Dear Joan and signed by Mia Amor Mottley Q.C., M.P on the 19th September 2011. The author of the letter declares to Joan

“ You may well ask whether internal victory at all costs for certain interests is worth jeopardizing the image and appeal of our great Party in the eyes of the wider electorate at this volatile and uncertain juncture of our Nation’s history and within sight of a General Election.”…

We must quell all other attempts to secure the domination by a few to the detriment of the majority. For we must ask ourselves, after the women and young people who will be next in the line of attack? Why is one-man one vote so threatening to the leadership in a modern democratic Party?”

Understand what would happen if these machinations take place in national elections by those who appears to manipulate constituencies branch elections.

The views of Arthur and the views of Mia as contrasted here speak to a leadership of contradiction. The current leadership is on a journey to redefine politics by making it a blood sport where lives and reputation are placed in public space. Barbados must listen to the honest words of Owen Arthur “…there is unacceptance and unacceptability of the present leader of the party,” he said

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222 Comments on “Mia…Just Not Ready”

  1. Artaxerxes October 2, 2015 at 1:12 PM #

    ac October 2, 2015 at 12:49 PM #

    “And listen Donna friends have never been one of my best assets most of them are liabilities.”

    Common sense, too!!!!

    You should re-write:

    “And listen, Donna, common sense and the ability to reason rationally have never been any of my assets, they are liabilities.”

    Hahahahahahaha, wuh loss, murder, I gine dead….. hahaha… hahaha…… hahaaaaaa

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  2. Donna October 2, 2015 at 2:16 PM #

    ac September 30,2015 at 5:04 pm

    Sea egg yuh know I think we might just get along well. I like “courting…LOL just a little play on words,

    Sea egg’s reply (paraphrased)

    Get yuh face outta de DEMs backside yuh does talk too much shiite!

    Burn!

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  3. Donna October 2, 2015 at 2:18 PM #

    Reject!

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  4. Donna October 2, 2015 at 2:20 PM #

    Bush Tea,

    He may have dipped his mouth in honey but the essence of our submissions was the same. I am a plain speaker. No dressing for me.

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  5. Donna October 2, 2015 at 2:32 PM #

    Sea Egg,

    I can understand how your sweet mouth wooed AC but I am at a loss as to how it managed to silence Dompey? What kind of magic are you using?

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  6. ac October 2, 2015 at 2:50 PM #

    “”Getting along”does not mean being a friend idiot. Friendship takes more than “getting along”
    Unlike you Donna my needto be like is an option which I regard as personnel . Not everyone can pass the test

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  7. Donna October 2, 2015 at 3:12 PM #

    That should be “personal” MORON. Is there ANYTHING you are good at besides DLP pooch licking and the consequent shiite talk?

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  8. ac October 2, 2015 at 3:19 PM #

    Artexeres your intelligent mouthings is good reason why your party lost the last election.

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  9. Sea Egg October 2, 2015 at 4:44 PM #

    Donna
    I think that Artax is responsible for silencing Dompey. I try very hard not to engage him. To do so requires patience which I have a short supply of, I must confess. To read through all the trite coming from him is very taxing mentally. I salute people like you and all the others who respond.

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  10. Sea Egg October 2, 2015 at 4:58 PM #

    Artax
    I have nothing to do with the sea egg season. I do not always have time to read BU every day but recently I”ve been thinking that the good and effective posters allow themselves to be sidetracked by piffle coming from elementary school children.
    Too often good issues are lost because you go off on a tangent in response to nonsense. I believe that if I don’t respond to rantings of the said individual they would not be given any headwind.
    As I said to the ACs it’s about issues and solutions. But you may very well be right. They are so close to the MPs for them to see otherwise.
    Someone should offer them (ACs) water as oppose to the constant pouring of kool-aid.

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  11. Sea Egg October 2, 2015 at 5:04 PM #

    Artax
    I took the day off so I had time to be on BU between going to the beach and doing other stuff. A break is necessary at times. Btw, the seaweed seem to be going away. The beach is still smelly though. I didn’t realize that I’m that active on BU during sea egg month.
    I’m a vegetarian so such “delicacy” won’t concern me.

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  12. ac October 2, 2015 at 6:03 PM #

    ac invite all members or non member of both members to read the auditor general report of 2006 when the blp was in power for more than twelve years this report is jaw dropping and makes for interesting reading
    Most note worthy the country was in the height of the best economic and financial gains yet the waste and inefficiencies was enough to make a person head spin.
    Unbelievable but true,

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  13. ac October 2, 2015 at 6:05 PM #

    Here is the 2006 auditor general report

    http://www.barbadosparliament.com/uploads/document/ef42b6ac614ccf3a259ec88a3d04061b.pdf

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  14. ac October 2, 2015 at 6:13 PM #

    oh i forget to mention the lost or stolen millions and records which kept the financial statements of govt agencies simply disappeared , Yes under the Blp but the intelligtent crowd would want to apply their own form of record keeping to put back the old brigade in place , What a bunch of Idiots,

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  15. Dompey October 2, 2015 at 7:49 PM #

    Sea Egg

    It is obvious that you have a political narrative to defend, so it doesn’t take a Quantum Physicist analogous to that of an Einstein to discover that anything which excoriates your particular narrative would be regarded as distraction.

    So in essence, it doesn’t take a Nuclear Physicist to figure this one out; just someone with the intellectual capacity of a three year old child.

    And it is funny how people of your liken have a growing propensity to anathematized those persons who do not think as you do, and are benumbed at the thought of incurring such anathemas themselves.

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  16. ac October 2, 2015 at 8:11 PM #

    here is a friendly reminder taken from the auditor general reports to the BLP foot soldiers outlining the state of affairs under the blp reign which helped to bring barbados to its present state of gloom and doom and everyone having to pay a heavy price,

    There were several occasions where items were purchased yet no evidence was seen to corroborate delivery and subsequent receipt of the said items. No delivery notes were seen. The corresponding LPO‟s were not signed to indicate receipt and the inventory records did not contain relevant entries. There was therefore no way of ascertaining whether the items were ever received by the Division. The cost of these items exceeded $100,000.00

    yes foot soldiers go ahead and read how the fatted calf was sliced and diced into ittisy bittsy pieces under the reign of the BLP
    hey guys do not forget to take off your blinkers

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  17. ac October 2, 2015 at 8:37 PM #

    In my Book any one who comes on BU and defends the BLP and then “pretends they are a- political in my book is regarded as a yardfowl ! footsoldier or both that b includes the notorious atexeres well know for his mouthings in defense of Mia Mottley,

    Oh donna whether it be Personnel ! or Personal. You Got it! suffice it to say you knew i was talking to you idiot .

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  18. Gabriel October 2, 2015 at 9:28 PM #

    AC
    Your reference to the report is reflective of Civil Servants.Why did Stuart stop the PAC from meeting.Recall the Leader of the Opposition had a PS Bascombe sweating under examination of his handling of the taxpayers’ monies and your clueless PM put a stop to the fire lit under his behind by the Chairperson of the PAC, Go bag your head ac and go learn to spell and teach Denis Kellman how to respond to letters when using official stationery.Poor rakey dems….wild boys…an apt assessment.

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  19. ac October 2, 2015 at 9:54 PM #

    ha HA Sore losers my spelling if it bothers u do not read the postings, AS.
    the Fact remains that All you BLP clowns get here on BU and try to pull the wool over everybody eyes but when wunna a,ss becomes exposed wunna cuss people black and white a bunch of intellectual jerks

    dic head here is another excerpt from the report .

    The Audit Office has observed that in the 2006/2007 financial year a total of $2.6 million was paid to a contractor without valuation certificates from the Ministry‟s Quantity Surveyors. Proper internal control practice was not followed as the payments would have been based solely on invoices submitted by the contractor.

    negro it is all about good goverance isn/t that what you and all the blp footsoldiers been preaching for the last six years or can it be that the rule does not apply to the past govt,
    when your stinking a,sses been exposed you all fly into fits and frenzy like swarming bees,
    Btw this is a blog not a frigging university, cah uh backside along JAs and next time you become judgemental check yuh friggin self in the mirror.

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  20. ac October 2, 2015 at 10:14 PM #

    The Auditor general analysis on monies paid to contractors without proper procedures followed was this

    The payment of contractors well in advance of work being carried out is contrary to Rule 19 (1) of the Financial Rules which stipulates that payment should not be in advance to meet impending payments. Of particular concern with these transactions is that millions of dollars of Government funds can be paid without the work being certified by the Ministry‟s Quantity Surveyors . Such a situation places Government funds under unnecessary risk and requires strong action by the Ministry on those responsible in order to prevent a recurrence.

    BLP yardfowls and acquaintances got the mitigated gall and stinking nerve to finger point with a moral tenacity, isn/t the same shite wunna preach about is what was accepted by the likes of gabriel and those who voted for the blp govt to hold the reign of power for fourteen years and yet the calls for another repeat sounds loudly here on BU by a bunch of self serving hypocrites .
    Yes at present the public is paying dearly for all the waste and inefficiencies which was breed and hatched under the BLP.

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  21. Bush Tea October 2, 2015 at 10:44 PM #

    That idiot AC at it embarrassing the DLP again……?

    Only a johnny JA would come here talking shiite about an Auditor General’s report from 2008 …when THEY have been in office for SEVEN YEARS since and not a fella has been charged….
    Not a forensic audit has been commissioned…
    Not a shiite has changed….. The SAME Auditor General now complaining that they refuse to give him adequate staff…

    Bajans VOTED OUT the BLP for that shiite…

    Since then, wunna recruited Darcey B, and start out thieving BIG with CLICO, CAHILL, Molasses tanks, Pier Head schemes, and shiite taxes…

    You could really shut your stupid mouth …. or at least take off the tight panties and let the shiite get out the right way… Jackass…

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  22. ac October 2, 2015 at 11:22 PM #

    DR Brass Bowl go change uh depends nobody talking to you anyway, if you can;t stand the heat stay out the kitchen ole man btw how is your 10 point plan for an efficient govt coming along. any recruits, LO

    Professor Brass bowl here is something else you can place your snarly chops on.

    During the period April 2005 to March 2006 During the period April 2005 to March 2006payroll deductions totaling $124,622.84 in respect of overdrawn salaries were made from the salaries of one hundred and forty three policemen and civilian staff. The explanation given for the high incidence of overdrawn salaries was that authorizations for payroll changes are not presented to the Accounts Section in a timely manner by the Personnel Section.

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  23. David October 3, 2015 at 4:37 AM #

    Thine hignorance knows no bounds.

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  24. ac October 3, 2015 at 6:20 AM #

    can one of the BU intelligence interpret for this idiot .the word hignorance .

    David for surely your HYPOCRISY HAS NO BOUNDS

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  25. Bush Tea October 3, 2015 at 6:39 AM #

    @ David
    So you mean if a fellow come along and just type ‘potters and skinners’ on BU you will let it pass? SURELY there is a minimum requirement for posters to meet….😦

    This j(AC)kass has not risen above any such minimum standard since the Alexandra School issue…

    Steupssss
    Bushie votes that we ban her for her own safety…
    That lotta shiite gotta have some long term effects on her health…
    Lord knows that the idiot’s mental health is already shot.

    Why not let us try at least one blog minus AC and see….?

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  26. ac October 3, 2015 at 6:42 AM #

    It doesn;t matter when these infractions took place the point should be made clear that the govt of the day was elected for proper governance not only did they failed miserably in their fourteen year reign to administer a governance that would maintain stability for the country but also failed morally
    The record shows a dark side which can not be glossed over and should not be forgotten or dismissed but that ever so often all should be reminded that those who forget the past would be doomed to repeat.

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  27. ac October 3, 2015 at 6:49 AM #

    Oh Bush Shite do you not have any shame exposing yourself as a tin horned Dictator

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  28. David October 3, 2015 at 6:56 AM #

    @Bush Tea

    What is amazing is that BU’s biggest detractors are logged on day and night.

    Here is the gist of ac’s argument, it happened under the BLP therefore others should not be critical of the DLP government today. Isn’t the essence of a democratic system government the opportunity to show dissent? The more things change the more they remain the same.

    On 3 October 2015 at 10:49, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >

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  29. Bush Tea October 3, 2015 at 7:18 AM #

    @ David
    What is amazing is that you don’t ban her ass…. !!🙂
    You must have the patience of Job…

    ..Or at least you can do like Carl Moore used to do at the Nation, and edit the letters to the Editor to say what HE wanted to say… and then still put their name at the bottom…. LOL

    There is no better way to get rid of a contributor.
    Ossie would have done that too… lol ha ha ha

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  30. ac October 3, 2015 at 7:26 AM #

    David you are putting words to the effect that you are misrepresenting ac/s intention. it is asinine and borderline lunacy to suggest that a” wrong” should be an acceptable norm given that such has been done before, the fact is that what i submitted is of public record , as both parties (again) embarked on a next general election both records should be scrutinized
    What i have done is nothing new in the world of politics as parties and individuals exposed and scrutinized each other failures past and present however strange or awkward it might appear (to be) here on BU as i have done
    A checklist of a detail record of any individual or organization be political or otherwise is important and serves as guides in helping to make sensible decision

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  31. Donna October 3, 2015 at 7:36 AM #

    FLUSH! FLUSH!

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  32. Walter Blackman October 3, 2015 at 8:15 AM #

    Bush Tea October 3, 2015 at 6:39 AM #
    @ David
    “So you mean if a fellow come along and just type ‘potters and skinners’ on BU you will let it pass? SURELY there is a minimum requirement for posters to meet….”

    Bush Tea,
    To be fair, AC is making a good point and she is on topic. Remember that the article is arguing that “Mia…..Just not ready”.

    The current government is being “washed in licks” and deservedly so.

    However, we are aware that there are persons now coming before us trying to convince us that the current government is committing wrongs against the people of Barbados, and that they are so innocent, honourable, and virtuous, that we must naturally select them to right these wrongs. These persons must be scrutinized, because we as a country and as a people, have been hurt, over, and over, and over again by such a simple deceitful trick. To all of us, this trick has become a sickening, old, worn-out recording.

    If there is one piece of advice that our parents and grand-parents rammed into our heads from the time we were babies crawling on the floor, it is this: “Never follow multitude to do evil”.

    AC is making reference to some of the governmental malfeasance, infelicities, and atrocities outlined in the Auditor-General’s reports for the period 1994 – 2008. Did Mia ever separate, distinguish, or distance herself from her political comrades and wrongdoers by standing up and insisting that the blight and rot on good governance in Barbados MUST stop? Did she ever threaten to resign from the government if the wastage and misappropriation of taxpayers’ monies continued? Did she ever raise a finger, or keep any noise in Parliament about the shameful financial incidents that were being exposed by the Auditor-General’s reports from 1994-2008?

    Unlike Abraham pleading with the Lord not to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah if ten righteous persons could be found, I am pleading with the people of Barbados to give Mia a pass if only ONE example of her standing up and putting her political career on the line in defence of good governance in Barbados and the judicious use of Barbadian taxpayers’ money can be found during the period 1994-2008.

    If one example cannot be found or produced, then, like the Queen of Hearts in “Alice in Wonderland”, I say: “Off with her head!”

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  33. David October 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM #

    @Walter

    In MIa’s defense she tried to activate the PAC only to see the government side frustrate the process.

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  34. Donna October 3, 2015 at 8:48 AM #

    AC spoilt her good point by implying that though Mia is not ready, Freundel is.

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  35. Gabriel October 3, 2015 at 8:53 AM #

    David
    You will recall that OSA changed the rules of the PAC to accommodate David Thompson when he made excuse after excuse for not activating the PAC.OSA virtually begged Thompson to use the device to scrutinize his administration and Thompson was asleep on the job.History has informed us why he faltered and failed to perform his parliamentary role as head of the PAC.He is now known as one of the biggest crooks ever to enter parliament and stories abound of the millions he left in his will,a public document which nobody can see.Ask the leper.One day it will all come out when the Commission of Enquiry is finally established under to look into the Clico and Baico mess.Dont worry,it coming and even Stuart got to appear before David and Goliath.

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  36. Walter Blackman October 3, 2015 at 9:01 AM #

    David October 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM #
    @Walter

    “In MIa’s defense she tried to activate the PAC only to see the government side frustrate the process.”

    David,
    It’s a good thing you are not Mia’s lawyer.
    Ironically enough, Mia is a lawyer. If she was trying to “lock up” herself, she would ask you the following question:
    Given the financial improprieties that took place in government between 1994-2008, when did Mia Mottley “activate” the PAC to stop them?

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  37. David October 3, 2015 at 9:05 AM #

    @Walter

    Surely you recognize that human being we experience Damascene moments?

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  38. Donna October 3, 2015 at 9:20 AM #

    David,

    That is a good one! Well I never!

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  39. Donna October 3, 2015 at 9:21 AM #

    These politicians on both sides are just playing out their roles in a script written by them both. Mia is no different.

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  40. Hants October 3, 2015 at 9:22 AM #

    Walter Blackman wrote “Given the financial improprieties that took place in government between 1994-2008, when did Mia Mottley “activate” the PAC to stop them?”

    What financial improprieties took place between 2004 -2008?

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  41. ac October 3, 2015 at 9:35 AM #

    But if all of what happen under the blp was not real it would be so funny enough to make the key stone cops look legitimate. Funny enough those commenting with an attitude for calls to ban ac exposes the hypocrisy that binds and regulate their mental state of mind.
    Those who indulge in journalistic practices must accept “fair and balance”as the moral and ethical equivalence in journalism and should proceed to do so as their actions define their truthfulnes to separate and cleanse

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  42. Gabriel October 3, 2015 at 9:48 AM #

    Walter
    I remind you again that you misread the time of your exam for Statistics whichin you tek a 9 for a 3!You misreading again.Ef Mia was in government in ’94 to ’08,how she can be responsible for calling a PAC hearing.That was Thompson’s responsibility again and briefly for Mascoll,the hardwood man.

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  43. Bush Tea October 3, 2015 at 9:59 AM #

    @ Walter
    You have a point, …but it is not sharp.
    Bajans kicked hell during the last term of the BLP government about the lotta shiite in greenland, Dodds, VECO, 3S, The Coast Guard Station, the Oil terminal, the Dover beach facilities …a whole lotta shiite.

    AND WE VOTED THEIR TAILS OUT AND ELECTED THE DLP TO SORT THE MESS…

    You could believe that not an investigation….
    Not a man get charged…
    Not an inquiry…
    NOT A SHIITE…

    …then we hear that Thompson thieving in $ 3.33 million blocks; Froon got non-leper friends who cannot be touched; and every other day another billion-dollar government project (with million dollar kick-backs) starting ….. and then stalling after the consultations and finders fees are paid from the treasury….

    Bushie don’t want to hear no shiite from AC about ‘BLP stealing’…. that is OLD news..
    Shiite man – check back on BU and see that Bushie and others were preaching that ‘anti-gospel’ (bad news) on every damn post back then….

    What the a$$ can be worse than the elected SHERIFF not only pardoning the outlaws they were elected to lock-up, but hiring the chief mastermind and starting an even bigger crime spree…?
    …and now seeking to justify their shiite by referring us back to the ‘bad old’ outlaws that they were hired to deal with in the first place…..?

    FIRE BUN DEM!!

    Wheel and comeback Walter…. you should know better than to join with a j(AC)kass in any argument…

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  44. ac October 3, 2015 at 10:48 AM #

    Jack ass there only two parties so far in contention so far .so are u Deputy dawg saying that only one record that of the present govt be scrutunized .Are you a a.as hole.Are you saying that anything of past record regarding the history of these two parties should be kept out of public domain as irrelevant to the present professor dic head. Are you trying to undermine a Democratic process to good governance that should include instead of exclude even u the tin horned dictator

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  45. Walter Blackman October 3, 2015 at 1:21 PM #

    Gabriel October 3, 2015 at 9:48 AM #
    Walter
    “I remind you again that you misread the time of your exam for Statistics whichin you tek a 9 for a 3!You misreading again.Ef Mia was in government in ’94 to ’08,how she can be responsible for calling a PAC hearing.”

    Gabriel,
    The first exam I took in a course labelled “Statistics” was at the University of Nebraska. Were you there? I took that exam, like all of the exams I have taken in my life, in a timely manner.
    Why do you persist in trying to tell lies on me? Do I have something that you want? Or that you didn’t get?

    I have not misread anything.
    Let me repeat my exact words:
    “Given the financial improprieties that took place in government between 1994-2008, when did Mia Mottley “activate” the PAC to stop them?”

    Can’t you, oh sharp one, who never misread the time of your exam (and hopefully never misread any exam question) take a second and read something into the quotes that I have used in “activate”?

    The point I was making to David is that PAC or no PAC, Barbadian taxpayers’ monies have been abused (and continue to be misappropriated) by both administrations. Conclusively, the PAC, as an instrument intended to prevent or minimize wastage of public funds, has been highly ineffective. Do you honestly think that if Mia had “re-activated” the PAC, the “Four Seasons wastage” would have been prevented? Do you think, if perchance, as has been alleged here on BU, that she received taxpayers’ money for services rendered in the Four Seasons fiasco, she would give it back? In everything, politicians are playing games with the lives of Barbadians.

    I am going to treat this minor point as “bait” and award you full marks (5 points) for your “brilliant” response to my comment.

    For 95 points, please answer the following 3 questions (the major thrust of my comment) with a simple yes, or no answer for each:

    Did Mia ever separate, distinguish, or distance herself from her political comrades and wrongdoers by standing up and insisting that the blight and rot on good governance in Barbados MUST stop?

    Did she ever threaten to resign from the government if the wastage and misappropriation of taxpayers’ monies continued?

    Did she ever raise a finger, or keep any noise in Parliament about the shameful financial incidents that were being exposed by the Auditor-General’s reports from 1994-2008?

    By the way, you have some nerve!

    I have watched you here on BU repeatedly singing Owen Arthur’s praises. BU published a $75,000 cheque from CLICO issued to Owen Arthur personally, and as Prime Minister of Barbados he signed the cheque and received the money, knowing full well that he never ever provided any services or invoices to CLICO. In the process, he eternally put himself on a legal hook.

    Why don’t you raise your game and comment on these things?

    Hypocrite!

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  46. ac October 3, 2015 at 1:21 PM #

    Mia is on record as being a front runner in the coming next election. Here voiced has ushered a call for change based on moral convictions tied to Cahill!Clico and other political moorings which she still is yet to explained
    unfortunately for Mia she is tied to a political past that will haunt and disturb many in her climb for PM
    Mia started the moral ball rolling like the direction in which it was heading with an anticipation that most might have forgotten or forgiven any roles of corruption which she might have participated in during her party years of governance

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  47. Walter Blackman October 3, 2015 at 1:51 PM #

    Bush Tea October 3, 2015 at 9:59 AM #
    @ Walter
    “You have a point, …but it is not sharp.

    …and now seeking to justify their shiite by referring us back to the ‘bad old’ outlaws that they were hired to deal with in the first place…..?

    FIRE BUN DEM!!

    Wheel and comeback Walter…. you should know better than to join with a j(AC)kass in any argument…”

    Bushie,
    I have a point that “is not sharp”, and you failed to recognize the point that you are making.

    My point, in summary, is that Barbadians believe that we are being governed by ‘bad new’ outlaws and so we must scrutinize any ‘bad old’ outlaws (your words, not mine) who are seeking to replace them. You haven’t written anything to suggest that you have a serious disagreement with that.

    Have we become a nation condemned to suffer under the hands of ‘recycled’ outlaws?

    As my wife asked: “If all good things must come to an end, why can’t bad things come to an end too?”

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  48. ac October 3, 2015 at 2:02 PM #

    But the blp brigade would counter argue that Owen malfeasance has nothing to do with Mia yet argue that David Thompson malfeasance ( words to that effect)are representative of the Dlp.

    BTW Gabriel i that lambasting u got from Walt

    Hypocrite

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  49. David October 3, 2015 at 2:04 PM #

    @Walter

    Are you saying in a simple term – if yuh lick yuh lock up?

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  50. Walter Blackman October 3, 2015 at 2:16 PM #

    Hants October 3, 2015 at 9:22 AM #
    “Walter Blackman wrote “Given the financial improprieties that took place in government between 1994-2008, when did Mia Mottley “activate” the PAC to stop them?”

    What financial improprieties took place between 2004 -2008?”

    Hants,
    I suspect that you scrolled past the comments AC made at 6:05 pm on October 2, 2015. There, she gave a link to the Auditor-General’s 2006 report.

    For good measure, here is one of the excerpts she quoted from the report:

    “The Audit Office has observed that in the 2006/2007 financial year a total of $2.6 million was paid to a contractor without valuation certificates from the Ministry‟s Quantity Surveyors. Proper internal control practice was not followed as the payments would have been based solely on invoices submitted by the contractor.”

    Implicitly, you seem to accept that improprieties took place between 1994-2003.

    Hope this helps.

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  51. Walter Blackman October 3, 2015 at 3:08 PM #

    David October 3, 2015 at 2:04 PM #
    @Walter

    “Are you saying in a simple term – if yuh lick yuh lock up?”

    David,
    Barbadians are a quiet people. Traditionally, they have resorted to reasoning rather than violence. People have mistaken that quietness (some call it docility) for stupidity. That is a very serious mistake.
    After years of putting their trust and confidence in public officials and institutions, they are beginning to realize, day by day, that they have been betrayed. A lot of that realization has to be credited to BU.

    No one alive in Barbados has ever had to deal with the situation we are faced with today – greed, mediocrity, a lazy, unproductive and arrogant civil service, widespread corruption, a judiciary bringing the hammer down on the poor only, institutional rot, a “broke” and broken government, unprecedented suffering felt by the young, old, poor, socially disadvantaged etc.

    These problems are beginning to manifest themselves in the form of social symptoms – violent crime, anger, selfishness, widespread drug use, “don’t-carish” attitudes.
    Once money stops flowing, the mendicant attitude bred and encouraged by politicians will come back to bite them in their behind. They will be blamed for everything.

    Once evidence of the politicians’ wrongdoings begin to surface (it has already started) the populace will start howling for their prosecution and imprisonment.

    International financial regulations are loudly hammering the nails in the coffins of corrupt politicians worldwide. In this respect, FATCA is a game changer. If there are corrupt politicians in Barbados, I am confident that the US government has a good idea of who they are. They can’t hide the money. Once the money is tracked down, some individuals who are career civil servants and politicians will be unable to justify such huge international bank accounts.

    Barbados is in need of serious political reform. That reform can only take place if a critical mass of Barbadians awaken from their slumber and sixty progressive minded individuals offer themselves as candidates for public office.

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  52. Gabriel October 3, 2015 at 3:15 PM #

    Walter
    I made the point that any decision to question the AG’s findings would properly be the bailiwick of the Opposition although OSA repeatedly dared Thompson to activate the PAC and when the man made excuses OSA changed the rules and the composition of the committee to give the Opposition the option of a PAC having a quorum without depending on the presence of government members’ numbers.In other words there is no argument on the AG’s findings but the repeated refusal of the chairman of the PAC committee to convene meetings and name and maybe shame the malefactors is nothing to do with Mia Mottley per se.The political class is here again protecting each other and we can speculate,given the named parties,why OSA was daring Thompson.
    You are aware that political parties and politicians solicit funds during election campaigns.Thompson and Parris no doubt agreed to fund partially OSA’s or the BLP’s campaign and wrote a cheque to OSA instead of the BLP.Now if a cheque is made payable to OSA,I would think it should be deposited to his personal account.I assume too you think such an act a betrayal of public trust in OSA.I don’t,although I think it was a carefully hatched plan designed to produce the result it did and OSA should have seen that curved ball coming.After all he was the protege of the master himself,JMGMA.Keep your temperament under control and don’t make noise.It’s unbecoming scholarship.Leave that to AC.

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  53. Hants October 3, 2015 at 3:28 PM #

    @Walter Blackman wrote “I suspect that you scrolled past the comments AC”.

    Yes Walter I “scrolled past”. I do not read anything posted by ac or dompey.

    Sorry I meant 1994-2008. I doing too much multi tasking for my age so I sometimes and frequently make mistakes.

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  54. Bush Tea October 3, 2015 at 3:32 PM #

    @ Walter
    Bushie’s point is that the status of the BLP is water under the bridge.
    WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE NO GOOD FOR…

    The REAL and PRESENT issue sits in a different location.
    Attempts to remind us (by those at that location) of what we ALREADY KNOW (and thought that we had dealt with) are only aimed at justifying the REAL and PRESENT shiite.

    Bushie’s position is well documented….
    UNLESS people like YOU, Jeff, Caswell, Donna and Grenville make it wunna business to offer Barbados an INTELLIGENT and above-board alternative, we may as well alternate between the BLP and DLP shiite hounds.

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  55. Bush Tea October 3, 2015 at 3:36 PM #

    It don’t matter to Bushie anyhow…. The Bushman will whack any shiite ….Bee, Dee, Pee or BUP… while awaiting the arrival of BBE’s real party…

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  56. Walter Blackman October 3, 2015 at 5:40 PM #

    Gabriel October 3, 2015 at 3:15 PM #
    “Walter
    Keep your temperament under control and don’t make noise.It’s unbecoming scholarship.”

    Gabriel,
    What have I written to justify your comment?

    I have quietly stated, in essence, that the PAC, as an instrument of preventing the wastage of public funds, has been an abject and dismal failure. All of your talk about OSA changing the composition of the committee, daring Thompson to activate the PAC etc cannot change that fact. As much as you love OSA, and would like to paint him as a “PAC hero” in this instance, you cannot change that fact into a lie. Sorry.

    In cold blood, I argued that Mia never did anything to halt the wastage of public funds under the Owen Arthur administration, of which she was a member. Therefore, what evidence has she given the public of Barbados to suggest that she will halt such wastage under a Mia Mottley administration? Like a vampire ducking from a silver bullet, you have attempted to avoid this question completely.

    In a cool, unruffled manner, I called you a hypocrite because, as the Bajans would say, you like to “paramount Owen Arthur to highest” but never once chided him for taking $75,000 of CLICO’s policyholders’ money.

    You denigrated and insulted Mitch Codrington in all forms and fashion. You denounced him as a poor-rakey lawyer.
    Amazingly, after you had been informed that Owen Arthur had taken $75,000 of CLICO’s policyholders’ money, which, as PM of Barbados, he absolutely had no right to access, you wrote: “Now if a cheque is made payable to OSA,I would think it should be deposited to his personal account.I assume too you think such an act a betrayal of public trust in OSA.I don’t…”
    I am going to take this opportunity to call you a hypocrite again.That says a lot about your character, and it explains why Barbados is in such a pitiful state . Why don’t you ask CLICO policyholders what they think?

    It is an extremely dangerous practice for citizens to manufacture their own laws to condone, justify, or support the acts of public officials who should know better.

    I am not a lawyer, but this is what I think, subject to correction. When Owen Arthur stupidly signed that $75,000 cheque from CLICO, that transaction represented income, since “Owen Arthur” is not a registered charity or political party. Is a PM of Barbados allowed to earn income beside that of being PM? Owen Arthur provided no services to CLICO, and as PM who had ultimate responsibility for the financial stability and well-being of all insurance companies in Barbados, he had no right allowing CLICO funds to flow directly to him. Additionally, he should have asked himself: “Who else, in addition to me, are CLICO’s funds flowing directly to for no justifiable reason?” Because of the exhibited lax control of CLICO’s funds, that question would have forced PM Arthur to put CLICO under extremely close scrutiny.

    Once Owen Arthur cashed CLICO’s cheque, that transaction would have attracted VAT and income taxes.
    After paying the VAT and income taxes, Owen Arthur would then be in a position to contribute the $75,000 as a donation to the BLP. Please note that two transactions would have taken place, and Owen Arthur would still have been on a legal hook for accepting the $75,000 from CLICO without providing any services to the insurance company.

    Joe Louis sank into bankruptcy as a result of a legally perceived two-transaction activity which ought to have converted boxing income into charitable donations AFTER the payment of income taxes.

    Why don’t you ask Mitch Codrington, who you dismissed as a poor-rakey lawyer, what advice he would given Owen Arthur when that cheque arrived with Owen Arthur’s name written on it?

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  57. David October 3, 2015 at 6:00 PM #

    @Walter

    Correction, it was a Clico subsidiary check in Caribbean Commercial Bank.

    https://barbadosunderground.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/david-thompson-comes-out-swingging/the-much-discussed-cheque-donation-which-was-deposited-to-arthurs-personal-account/

    On 3 October 2015 at 21:40, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >

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  58. Walter Blackman October 3, 2015 at 6:09 PM #

    David October 3, 2015 at 6:00 PM #
    @Walter

    Correction, it was a Clico subsidiary check in Caribbean Commercial Bank

    David,
    Thanks. I stand corrected.
    However, the thrust of my argument remains the same.

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  59. David October 3, 2015 at 6:12 PM #

    So when are going to see David Thompson’s will.

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  60. Gabriel October 3, 2015 at 6:28 PM #

    Walter
    Former editor of the Barbados Advocate Robert Best would chide you for coming out swiping.You are all over the place.Stick to your chosen field of demographic meteorology.

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  61. Gabriel October 3, 2015 at 6:41 PM #

    David
    Don’t hold your breath.I enquired a few years ago of a very influential ‘man about town’ and was told that it was kept in the then registrar’s pocketbag,in other words it was neither for chance nor purposeful scrutiny.In some jurisdictions,it is considered a public document.

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  62. Donna October 3, 2015 at 6:48 PM #

    Bushie,

    Everybody has a place in life. That is not my place. I stand prepared to assist those who are so called.

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  63. ac October 3, 2015 at 8:56 PM #

    The 2006 Auditors report would serve well as a “case study” and as a guide for members of society who would like to pursue a career /profession in the world of politics, it clearly reveals a disconnect between the people to be served and those who are trusted to be the servers one of unbridled ethics and morals
    As a matter of fact this report should be a mandatory course which all politicians are required to study and should passed in order to be considered ethically and morally approved before holding the reigns of govt,
    The unethical and immoral practices in this report goes beyond the bounds of irrationality with a composite only known to persons with a higher than normal disregard for what is right and proper,

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  64. ac October 4, 2015 at 7:36 AM #

    Mia mottley in today newspaper trying to put some band aid on her party eye sores, Her only problem is that she has a lot of explaining to do about the way she has allowed so many cracks to explode into full blown episodes which now have become frequent and characterized as “divisions” in the party and a sure stamp of weakness against her leadership, which cannot be corrected by sweet smiles and sweet sound bites in the media,
    At present still hanging over her head like a dark cloud and which is lying dormant in the court dockets is the Payne vs Hinkson fight which when comes to fruition would eventually caused further division and stress within the party .
    IMHO Mia is not a leader of the intensity to be proactive but displays a level of insufficient immaturity to such a level that can exaggerate rather than heal as demonstrated by her response in todays media

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  65. Sea Egg October 4, 2015 at 1:37 PM #

    Dompey October 2, 2015 at 7:49 PM #
    Sea Egg

    It is obvious that you have a political narrative to defend, so it doesn’t take a Quantum Physicist analogous to that of an Einstein to discover that anything which excoriates your particular narrative would be regarded as distraction.

    So in essence, it doesn’t take a Nuclear Physicist to figure this one out; just someone with the intellectual capacity of a three year old child.

    And it is funny how people of your liken have a growing propensity to anathematized those persons who do not think as you do, and are benumbed at the thought of incurring such anathemas themselves.

    Dompey, Dompey, Dompey!!!!!!!

    I’m at a lost as to what you wrote. I haven’t a clue what you mean by your rambling while trying to sound important. I always try to write in simple straightforward language.
    It is evident that you have a serious impediment for which you need specialized treatment. How many times must I tell you that I am NOT a member NOR supporter of ANY political party.
    Fyi, unlike you, I don’t have my nose up anyone’s backside so I’m not obligated to agree with the shite that the politician excretes.
    Because someone may disagree with your posts that he or she is anti you. All I ask of you is to step back and try to understand what others are saying to you.
    Your english is terrible, your ideas are piss poor, your reasoning is at primary or perhaps kindergarten level and worse of all you bring absolutely nothing to the discussions. You have to make everything about you. Why? Are you that dissatisfied with you lot in life? As Bushie would say, you are indeed a real brass bowl.
    My grouse with you is that you lack the ability to think. Not logically, not clearly, not rationally. In short, you just do not have the capacity to think at all, hence your rambling about everything under the sun.
    Let me tell you why I have a difficulty with you and your piffle. Let’s say that your girlfriend willfully, deliberately and intentionally lied to you about any any every thing and you found out that she was lying all along, would you against all odds make her your wife?
    Perhaps that analogy is beyond you, but I want you to apply the same principle to the DLP administration. Leading up to the last general elections the DLP went the length and breadth of the island stating what they will and won’t do. Yet, the very first order of business was to renege on ALL the promises they made to the electorate. They lied to us. They can no longer be trusted.
    If a person on the witness stand made ten statements which are true and the eleventh is false the entire testimony will be discarded. Imagine if everything was a lie, perhaps that witness may be charged with perjury.
    Dompey, stop putting the blame for your poor english on the medium you use. Whether it’s a phone, laptop, desktop, ipad or an android tablet, what you type is what comes out.
    I’m truly sick and tired of you making everything center around you. It is about issues. NOT ABOUT YOU.
    I leave you in the capable hands of Bushie, Piece, Artax, Donna and even Hants.
    Steupseeeeeeeee!! I gone. Another great day for the beach.

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  66. Sea Egg October 4, 2015 at 1:39 PM #

    Talking to Dompey got me drained. Don’t know why I waste my time with him. Unteachable brass bowl. Even AC is far better

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  67. ac October 4, 2015 at 2:20 PM #

    Sea egg why so much hostility towards any disagreement i am disappointed in your reaction. i thought you might have been the “one” person to bring some balance to the debate whether or not they were any disagreements,
    IT might be a challenge for you that i understand especially having to sit or float among a heavily group of partisan people.

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  68. Sea Egg October 4, 2015 at 5:18 PM #

    AC
    The beach was great today. You must try to get there at times as I believe that it would do wonders for you. If only to watch the waves as that may help to clear your mind at times.
    That aside, do you ever take time to really understand the gibberish that Dompey writes? I may consider myself educated but to try to understand what Dompey writes is challenging to say the least.
    As I told you before, I have no problem with you or anyone supporting a political party of your choice, but when that said party comes to the public and lies continually, then I have a problem with the thinking of individuals who see nothing wrong with that. Admittedly, you bring some interesting points at times and you do that deliberately to throw posters off guard. You seem to take pleasure in derailing serious debate when your back is against the wall in trying to defend foolishness. That is your escape clause I guess.
    All I ask you to do is to take a step or two back and realistically observe the goings on of this government and tell me if you honestly agree with the leadership of the country. Seriously. Step back and examine all the broken promises and the unfulfilled promises and empty rhetoric and tell me if they make any sense to you.
    I am not a party yardfowl or duck or anything. I call it as I see it.
    To date I have not put up any argument for the BLP. They are not in government. The DLP is and it isn’t doing much of a job. Your ministers have not brought anything of substance to the table. Not one has ever managed a pot of piss far less a business. NONE! And that’s my point my dear AC.

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  69. ac October 4, 2015 at 5:40 PM #

    Sea egg No! i do not see your point i did not address my comment to you about party affiliation /association.just questioning your temperament .
    Most of the time i gloss over many comments as i expect the usual fluff and nuances by both sides,
    i am”giddied” by those who often lash out at others and question there lack of tolerance,
    most of the time i believe such level of intolerance is to be a want to control/

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  70. Sea Egg October 4, 2015 at 6:27 PM #

    AC
    No qualms about your questioning my temperament. Perhaps you should instruct Dompey whom I consider to be your partner to think before writing. He listens to you and no one else. I have a very low tolerance for foolishness passing as intelligent contribution.
    While I’m at it, try not to be so partisan. It doesn’t wear well on you. I believe you can do better.

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  71. ac October 4, 2015 at 8:31 PM #

    First my allegiance is to country .what I do not like is unadulterated hypocrisy sold as intelligence I find it very insulting

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  72. Artaxerxes October 4, 2015 at 8:58 PM #

    @ Sea Egg

    “Your English is terrible, your ideas are piss poor, your reasoning is at primary or perhaps kindergarten level and worse of all you bring absolutely nothing to the discussions. You have to make everything about you. Why? Are you that dissatisfied with you lot in life?”

    “I have a very low tolerance for foolishness passing as intelligent contribution.”

    Be careful, Sea Egg, since your above comments are similar to my assessment of Dompey, he may conclude that you and I are the same individual, just as AC previously suggested.

    LOL

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