Professor Paul Connett brought in by the Future Centre Trust to share his experience on gasification technology

Citizen Plan for a Sustainable Barbados

Authored by Professor Paul Connett with Climate Colorado and the Zero Waste Barbados Movement
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1. Sept meeting organized by the Future Island Trust (before this meeting organizers need to be briefed by Robert on how to organize the brainstorming […]to achieve these goals).

Need sponsors like the Rotarians, various hotel owners, Chamber of Commerce, farmers, university, Churches, B’s recycling, other waste companies, Zero Waste Barbados, Barbados renewable Energy group etc…

Need to brainstorm ideas for projects in the following areas and identify potential leaders, players and entrepreneurs. Throughout the discussion a high priority should be given to ways of maximizing jobs in each project area.

  1. Education for sustainability K 1 -12; University department for sustainability
  2. Sustainable Agriculture
  3. Sustainable and Clean water supply
  4. Sustainable Energy supply (Barbados Renewable Energy Association (?)
  5. Sustainable waste Management (Zero Waste Barbados; B’s recycling and more)
  6. Sustainable Tourism
  7. Sustainable transport
  8. Setting up a network of sustainable communities emphasizing both social and environmental justice.

2. These ideas written up to form basis for international summit in November (?). To be sent to all prospective participants.

3. International Summit for a Sustainable Barbados (dialogue between local ideas and international experience).

4. Results written up and the plan (a list of well-defined interlocking projects in the 8 areas) made available to all citizens via social media and the press. It will be an open question then whether the advancement of this plan will involve public or private money or a mixture of both. If government cancels Cahill project and opts instead to support this plan – then citizen-organizers will have oversight. If government refuses to support the plan citizen-organizers will be looking for local and international entrepreneurial and charitable support for each of the projects and overall orchestration of the plan.

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100 Comments on “Citizen Plan for a Sustainable Barbados”

  1. ac August 17, 2015 at 5:28 PM #

    Alvin Cummins you are a star boy today, keep rolling the dice. don,t expect to hear a peep from professor brass bowl deputy dawg any time soon.
    The misfits are adamant about driving a stake in the heart of the WTE project but using the wrong tool.

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  2. David August 17, 2015 at 5:36 PM #

    @Alvin

    If you check at the bottom of the UK website. In other words the expression of interest process is to allow the government to perform due diligence based on quality of applicant. Then those who qualify get to tender. Not sure what exercise the Barbados government went through. You were probably in Canada when Sinckler stated on public radio no tender was necessary for a PPP there this discussion is irrelevant.

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  3. ac August 17, 2015 at 5:37 PM #

    These BLP clowns have been warned several times not to listen to Mia, she has proven time and time again that she can not be trusted ,hence her sourced efforts to get credible information is hampered an d as a result she ends up floating half truths and misinformation to her loyal foot soldiers , although time and time again they have been proven to be wrong a reflection comes to mind in her feeble and asinine disapproval of the waste tax where she floundered and lost her way during debate only to be told by her former leader OSA that her approach was wrong,

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  4. Mockingbird August 17, 2015 at 5:45 PM #

    Will the request to change from plasma to “something else” be made public by the government ???? When Cahill find a willing uninformed investor??????

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  5. David August 17, 2015 at 6:31 PM #

    This project will not fly, it will be challenged in court. Isn’t it amazing we have ordinary citizens asking our government to be transparent yet we have yard fowls crowing against it? When the other party takes office the tune changes. When we are willing to place party positions above national interest the inevitable will occur.

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  6. ac August 17, 2015 at 6:46 PM #

    Oh David do not become so crabby i

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  7. David August 17, 2015 at 10:07 PM #

    She did not say which countries, but explained that the company decided to locate the plant here because investors had shown faith in Barbados based on its stability as a place in which to do business. “. . . not all Caribbean governments qualify for that. Some investors are just skittish about certain countries and they won’t go near them.

    http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2015/07/24/youre-safe/

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  8. Alvin Cummins August 17, 2015 at 10:18 PM #

    @David,
    I wrote an answer to your 6.31 post what happened to it?

    Will your 10.07 post satisfy the Yard ducks? I doubt it.

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  9. David August 17, 2015 at 10:26 PM #

    Here is a question for Clare Cowan, by your admission this is the first such project your 3 year old company is managing. What is YOUR experience working on WtE projects?

    Ms. Cowan said that Cahill Energy is a privately-owned Guernsey firm, which has confidence in Barbados. It is the first project of this kind to be undertaken by the company.

    http://www.cahill-energy.com/news-posts/making-progress-bdos-will-soon-benefit-from-waste-to-energy-project/

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  10. Bush Tea August 17, 2015 at 11:09 PM #

    Shiite man David, you gotta be a boss
    Balaam was recorded as having had extensive conversations with a donkey…
    But here you are ..in ongoing discussions with, not one, but TWO jackasses…

    You have already outdone Balaam Boss…
    Now give it up ..and let us have some intelligent ‘PEOPLE’ discussion nuh….

    Let the two of them bray at each other..
    One a victim of a brain surgery slip, …and the other of ‘much-too-tight’ panties…

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  11. Mockingbird August 18, 2015 at 1:14 AM #

    @David
    Thruth be told
    This is the first project she has attempted period …….
    None of her previous shell companies executed any project or completed any recorded transactions.
    She has fumbled from misadventure to misadventure only to land on our doorstep through an introduction from seventh heaven properties .
    Any investor contemplating advancing her funds to continue her charade deserve to loose that investment.

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  12. David August 18, 2015 at 5:36 AM #

    The Nation newspaper writes a good editorial.

    Home Commentary EDITORIAL:…

    EDITORIAL: Silence on Cahill smacks of disrespect Barbados Nation, Added 18 August 2015

    MORE ARTICLES Mental edge ‘key’ Read More Pinelands get even Read More Husbands captures Breeders Read More ALL AH WE IS ONE: Gals ‘n’ guns Read More THE ‘NETTE EFFECT: Not poverty, just spending sense Read More DEAR CHRISTINE: Twice bitten but willing to try again Read More Treat for EDM fans this month Read More Boyfriend of Morgan Freeman’s granddaughter charged with her murder Read More VIDEO: Pic O De Crop Finals 2015 Read More BSTU nod Read More Complaints of garbage pile-up at Palmetto Mall Read More Call for Sargassum fund Read More AS I SEE THINGS: New way to measure economy Read More BARBADOS EMPLOYERS’ CONFEDERATION: Work-life balance – myth or attainable reality? Read More Protect our abandoned assets (Final part) Read More SHOULD THE VOICES of the people matter  in a democracy? Do the voices of Barbadians matter in our democracy? Related articles IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST: Some burning… NOT ALL BLACK AND WHITE: Cahill… THE HOYOS FILE: Tipping Cahill… We find these questions important as we observe the Government’s apparent reticence in the face of strong objection to the proposed plasma gasification plant at Vaucluse, St Thomas. It would be inappropriate to say that a majority of Barbadians appear not to be in favour of this project since we have no way of proving this. However, what would not be inaccurate is the assertion that objections have resulted  in the largest town hall meeting ever convened in Barbados when Cahill Energy attempted  to sell the venture to average Barbadians at Lloyd Erskine Sandiford Centre on July 22. The questions and suspicions were many and  in the absence of any Government representatives at that meeting, officials of Cahill failed in their attempt to justify the planting of this $700 million waste-to-energy facility on our landscape. One month later, and with objections apparently increasing, it is hard to fathom the deafening silence of Minister of the Environment Dr Denis Lowe, Prime Minister Freundel Stuart and the Government as a whole. It is as if they have determined that they will outlast objectors with their silence. While there are clearly a number of people among the objectors who have made up their minds that plasma gasification and Cahill Energy are bad for Barbados, the comments of the majority of people seeking answers suggest their fears are based on a lack of information and their suspicion is fuelled by the silence of their representatives. This would suggest that if the Government thinks the project will be genuinely beneficial to the country and not just Cahill and/or a select group of people here, it has a duty to “sell” it to Barbadians. Talking down to the population from the floor of Parliament, where no ordinary citizen can respond, or resorting to absolute silence outside of that chamber, smacks of disrespect. We do not believe it is unreasonable for Barbadians to ask if this is primarily a garbage solution or an alternative energy venture. It can’t be unreasonable, given our experience with water supply, to ask how much water this plant will require. Neither can it be out of place to ask who owns Cahill and from whom the money for this massive investment will come. It certainly can’t be out of place for taxpayers and electors to ask whether any member of the Government has any financial interest in the project, in Cahill Energy, or in any firm that will be engaged in the funding, building or operating of the plant or the supply of waste or any other commodity or service to it. We also hold the position that with technology this new and untested, the country has to be exposed to the views of “experts” other than those supplied by Cahill Energy, even if it is at the expense of the Government. How can we be asked to trust Cahill’s information when it has a vested interest in the venture? Cahill Energy, plasma gasification and/or waste-to-energy may in fact be good for Barbados, but bludgeoning a population into metaphorical signing with state-led silence can’t be the path to achieving this. Barbadians have a duty to ask questions  and Government has an obligation to answer. Anything less is nothing short of disrespectful.

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  13. Alvin Cummins August 18, 2015 at 9:51 AM #

    @David,
    I am aware that my submissions are usually long, but I make no apologies for their length, because much is said and much has to be discussed.

    The essence of this editorial is a call for clarity in a number of areas. Much of the speculation about the proposed plant is premature. A lot of the speculation is based on a misunderstanding of the process and a lot of the speculation is a haste to condemn without knowledge of the facts. The original government invitation to tender is for expressions of interest in the project. Step 1 for those expressing interest would be to get the design of the plant; one suitable for the country. Designing and constructing a Plasma Gasification Plant, with specific requirements; suitable for Barbados, is not like going to the store and buying a shirt. Everyone knows and admits that this would be a first for the country and the Caribbean. It would take time first of all for the engineers to design the plant. How can questions be asked about the amount of water needed when the plant has not even been designed. How does anyone know that it will cost 700million dollars when the type of plant has not yet been arrived at. Step 2 would have to be obtaining the investors to finance the plant. When the principals met in 2013-14 engineers were among the delegation. One has to assume that they would have discussed the requirements, then to go back to their offices to PLAN the type of facility and work on the design of the plant. As I said, this is not like going to WallMart and buying a ready made plant. Then the various assessments, legal requirements, contracts, etc have to be passed through the necessary bureaucratic hurdles, before a decision of the design is approved. So far I have not seen any notices tendering for the construction of the plant, since that will not involve government. The company that submits the winning design and has the required financing will make those decisions.
    Only one year has passed since the visit of the principals to Vaucluse, not enough time for the questions to be answered. I am sure when that stage is reached there will be more discussion and consultation.

    In the heightened political atmosphere; evident since before and after the last election, everyone is seeking to score political points and thus often mislead. In the current atmosphere calm reflection, studied analysis, and less hysteria have to be the order of the day. Cussing, demeaning, and misleading have to be replaced by calm, fruitful discussion, and a clear understanding of all the facts. A rush to judgment; especially in the absence of correct information, does not serve the country in any positive way.
    The editorial asks if any member of Government has interest in
    Cahill. Why ask this? It is obviously a question designed with malicious intent, for despite the hundreds of contracts, and the hundreds of millions of dollars in Government expenditure spent with Williams Industries, Rayside, or other large conglomerates, local and foreign, I have NEVER seen this question directed at government representatives before. Why now? The present minister responsible for Energy; Dorcy Boyce, was a member of the former government. How has he changed since then; if at all? Why question his integrity now? Doctor Lowe is the Minister of the Environment, what factual evidence is there that he is a dishonest man? These attempts to demean their characters speaks volumes of the type of people we seem to have become; mean spirited and spiteful. Why? The members of government are persons of intellect and integrity. We elected them; not once but twice.
    I don’t remember this question being directed when the contract for the Desalination Plant ( a BOLT arrangement was awarded to Williams industries; IONICS Ltd, or when SBRC was awarded the construction of the waste separation plant (also a BOLT arrangement).

    What makes this different now? Could it be that there are other competing interests (BIG)who want to sabotage the project for their own selfish interests? Is there another, (or others) entity interested in what B’s recycling is doing, and eying the waste to energy business?

    Barbadians have a right to ask questions and the Government is obligated to answer, but my many examinations have taught me that it is usually best to take time and examine the questions asked, spending time to formulate the answers, and then trying to answer them calmly and completely. Otherwise the wrong answer will be given.

    People much older than me said it: “If greedy wait, hot will cool.”

    Ponder on these things.

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  14. ac August 18, 2015 at 10:17 AM #

    Excellent response Mr.Cummins .

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  15. David August 18, 2015 at 10:30 AM #

    @Alvin

    Not yours is a minority view and the reality here is that the government has not been transparent so far. How ever you twist it the government needs to communicate better on Cahill and other issues, even minister Inniss has stated this publicly.

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  16. ac August 18, 2015 at 10:58 AM #

    First response from govt came in the form of an international press release followed by town hall meetings where the same old questions about cost and got input and financing were address.
    However the gossip mill continue to spin out of control with additional add ons and speculation mostly fueled by political hogwash.
    I recalled during the past Budget debate Chris Sinckler gave a clear and open review as to many of the concerns asked about the WTE project one of which having to do with financing and cost and the projects developers

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  17. are-we-there-yet August 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM #

    ac;

    Not so!

    Minister Sinckler did not address any of the substantive points raised by Ms. Mottley in that debate.

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  18. ac August 18, 2015 at 12:50 PM #

    Sinckler did not respond to the speculation drawn upon by perceptions brought into the issue by Mia. He however did respond to what he knew to be factual and correct concerning the project

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  19. Due Diligence August 18, 2015 at 1:12 PM #

    ac + Alvin Cummins = Absolutely Clueless

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  20. ac August 18, 2015 at 2:13 PM #

    No Alvin brought to table records which are relevant and plausible. Unlike most here who are innovators of made up speculation and slanderous name calling

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  21. Mockingbird August 18, 2015 at 3:31 PM #

    Absolute nonsense
    Sinclair knows well of the abomination that is Cowan
    He also knows that there is a minimum of $50 million dollars needed in infrastructure work that Cahill have no responsibility for
    They are also well aware that changing from plasma will require an amendment to the contract which they are keeping under wraps

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  22. St George's Dragon August 18, 2015 at 11:22 PM #

    “….Alvin brought to table records which are relevant and plausible.”
    He has brought no “records to the table”. His major point was that there was an “Expressions of Interest” advert a few years ago. He has posted no facts about which firms applied, how they were scored on their submissions etc., or how Cahill was finally appointed – indeed, if they responded to this advert at all. He suggests that a Tenders Committee would have properly overseen the process without even knowing whether such a Committee was appointed. He appears to be trying to fill a factual void with unsupported speculation.mThat, I am afraid, is not good enough.
    I suggest the Auditor General should be asked to review Cahill’s appointment. While they are at it, they should extend their audit to cover other PPP projects such as the BWA headquarters and the SSA building. They might be able to throw some light on whether the correct processes were followed and also if Government has to tender PPP projects at all, which Chris Sinckler denies.
    The Auditor General’s reports have their limitations in terms of follow-through but they are pretty good at getting to grips with the shortcomings of process.

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  23. GlennK August 19, 2015 at 7:41 AM #

    Big question???
    Is there a “time is of the essence” clause in this dam contract???
    If so the clock should be ticking
    If not then the government lawyer should be slapped on the wrist.
    18 months and zero progress on a non runner project
    If it was that bankable it should be well underway by now
    Truth is its unproven and unbankable

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  24. Bush Tea August 19, 2015 at 8:54 AM #

    @ GlennK
    If not then the government lawyer should be slapped on the wrist.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    …slapped on the wrist? …after having received his ‘bankable’ fee at the $700,000 rate?

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  25. Due Diligence August 19, 2015 at 8:54 PM #

    From

    http://gisbarbados.gov.bb/index.php?categoryid=9&p2_articleid=14577

    Government has started preliminary discussions on whether Queen’s Park should be renamed National Heroes Park.

    This disclosure has come from Minister of Culture, Stephen Lashley, after touring the City park with Prime Minister Freundel Stuart; Permanent Secretaries Sonja Welch and Ruth Blackman; and officials of the National Cultural Foundation, led by Chief Executive Officer, Cranston Browne.

    Mr. Lashley explained that they toured the property with a view to determining whether the location was a suitable one for the National Heroes Park. He said after the near one-hour tour: “We are at a very preliminary stage. Queen’s Park has been discussed and the purpose of the tour was to have a firsthand view and an initial brainstorming session as to whether the park is a feasible possibility.

    “From here, we will have some further discussions with various stakeholders and then ultimately, prepare a proposal for the consideration of the Cabinet. The Cabinet will then determine whether it will give the green light in principle pending the holding of wider sectoral consultation.”

    The Minister underscored the importance of the tour, saying the officials received vital information to assist in making a determination as to how to proceed. “Once the Cabinet considers that this is something we can look at in principle, we would convene a town hall meeting to consult with the public and of course do the necessary due diligence and other consultations before we proceed,” he stressed…………….”

    What is going on?

    Sounds like they are doing more due diligence on renaming a park, than was done before signing a$700 million WtE plant.

    Surely they must have better things to than take a one hour tour of a park they have probably visited hundreds of time.

    This is Barbados

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