Minister David Estwick
Minister David Estwick

Cabinet collective responsibility is constitutional convention in governments using the Westminster System that members of the Cabinet must publicly support all governmental decisions made in Cabinet, even if they do not privately agree with them. This support includes voting for the government in the legislature. Some Communist political parties apply a similar convention of democratic centralism to their central committeeWIKIPEDIA

The Estwick Affair has started to gather momentum contrary to what the goto political scientists of Messrs Bell and Wickham ‘originally’ predicted. Whether the DLPites like it or not Estwick now commands the attention of the country and beyond given the current state of the Barbados economy which has started to severely interact with another reality; a 2-seat majority government. While the current tension between Estwick is cause for concern for the government, of greater concern is the likely impact on the need to effuse confidence at a most challenging time in our post Independence history.

Local media has been quoting an inside source (attributed to a member of Cabinet) suggesting Estwick should adhere to the tenet of collective responsibility practiced by the Cabinet in the Westminster System.  BU’s response is: do we practice a true true Westminster system of governance in Barbados respecting “codified and uncodified” procedures?

The 2-party system is entrenched in Barbados and like it or not one of the ways to attempt to crack the code maybe from within the bowels of the system itself. Such an approach has been advocated by BU commentators. It appears Estwick has decided to FINALLY take this route AND must be given credit for trying to do so. Unlike several of his colleagues in the house he has the stature, financial and otherwise, to give it a shot no pun intended.

The challenge for Estwick will be to defend his credibility in the latest imbroglio with onlookers. Many political pundits are prepared to shove Estwick under the bus because he sat in Cabinet for the last six years and appear to have agreed with the policies of government. He added his voice to debates in the Estimates Debates with no dissent. During the last general election platform his stature was raised as a result of promising to reform the sugar industry by getting the Japanese to finance a multi-purpose sugar factory in the amount of USD$200 million.  So far nothing to show for it.

There is the lingering perception Estwick is a hothead aptly demonstrated by his nickname Pitbull and characterized by his Lammie Craig political style. Further supported by the gun incident where Estwick is alleged to have brandished a weapon in the presence of MP Dale Marshall and had to be restrained. The matter was quelled by the Committee of Privileges with the help of both parties. Something to support the view our so called democracy is contrived. DLPites who are honest have to admit Estwick has been a high maintenance member of the ‘team’. Who can forget his 2,405 words statement – read Estwick’s statement – when he was dumped into the Ministry of Agriculture by the late David Thompson from his death’s bed? Who can forget Estwick’s show of defiance at the DLP parliamentary group meeting in a red shirt on the morning of Thompson’s death to select a prime minister? Estwick has a history of demonstrating varying levels of discomfort within the Democratic Labour Party.

In his 201 statement Estwick made the now famous reference ‘time longer than twine…’.

Although it might seem that I have been given the bad end of the stick it is my belief that I have been chosen by the Almighty, and my constituents of St Phillip West to work on behalf of this country.  My mother always said: time longer than twine and that the race is not for the swift but is for he that endureth. I am resilient and will endure. However, under these circumstances I hereby tender my resignation from the Chair of the Cabinet Committee on Economic policy to allow for the Prime Minister to so appoint a new Chair

The public intervention by former Prime Minister Owen Arthur  following the Estwick’s outburst was interesting. Those who follow local politics may recall that Mascoll considered Estwick an apprentice and allowed him to express himself on economic matters when he [Mascoll] was leader of the DLP before being dumped for Thompson. The situation smells.

What matters is that Minister David Estwick  ‘will get his day’ to present to one and all. We are left to contemplate what next for Barbados.

350 responses to “Minister David Estwick May be ABOUT to Deliver on His Time Longer Than Twine Declaration”


  1. Caswell

    This is is as unprecedented as it appears complex. How will it end and who will be the victory, Stuart, Mottley, Estwick or Arthur?

    I am perplexed.


  2. @Gutterperc and Caswell

    I am uncertain as well. This seems like the inevitable sequel to the election blockbuster movie of February 2013 that had a very unexpected ending.

    Time will tell.

    Just Observing


  3. Based on what Estwick is reported to have delivered in his presentation yesterday how can he remain a member of the Cabinet?


  4. I am wondering the same thing, David. Not only did he say what he wanted, he challenged the PM and his statements made last Sunday in St Andrew.

    It is clear that Estwick now feels that he can challenge the PM and get away with it. He clearly does not agree with the PM nor the Stinkliar, so how does he go back to the MoA and continue as if nothing happen? It boggles the mind!

  5. are-we-there-yet? Avatar

    David
    re. your 10.04 pm post; Freundel is probably trying to find a way to allow DE to remain and gloss over the happenings yesterday since he has not removed him so far. I can’t help thinking that with any of our previous PMs (even though none of them ever had a situation like this one to deal with) at least a new Minister for Agriculture would have been appointed last night.

    But there must now be palpable, hard feelings between DE and many of his colleagues that would make it almost impossible for them to coexist peaceably in Parliament and Cabinet after the latest black Thursday happenings.


  6. Of interest to pundits should be the report after a group met at Inniss’ house including Estwick.What message is the disorganization sending to Barbadians and the private sector. The same private sector being asked to invest.


  7. Are we seeing an approach by DE where he is forcing the PM to fire him?


  8. Are-we-there-yet

    You seem not to understand the character of these politicians, they would pretend to peaceably exist in a sewer if it meant holding on for their pensions.

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  9. I do feel so, David. It is as if David Estwick is daring Fruendel Stuart to fire him. I would be surprised if Fumble does anything. Party paramountcy!


  10. How could you all be so daft. Fire Estwick what? If I know Freundel well enough, he was asleep during the presentation and did not hear what Estwick said.

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  11. are-we-there-yet? Avatar

    David;

    No punditry here.

    Just thinking aloud about these very complex happenings. With absolutely no evidence of what transpired at the Inniss led meeting, I think that at that stage, Estwick felt that here were some colleagues who were on his side and would intercede with the PM for a hearing on what he had to say. Alas that was not to be. He realized that they were not willing to bell the black cat and the last straw was when the PM made that uncalled for comment at the Branch meeting that showed that he was adamant not to move from the Sinckler – GoCBB austerity prescriptions and was actually trying to trick Estwick. IMHO, that apparent insensitivity, more than anything else, was the tipping point for DE’s reported performance yesterday.

    I think this seeming quandary is a marker for the start of events that will stop the downward trajectory and lead to Barbados moving forward at last and was the necessary catalyst for the removal of the current team that has amply demonstrated that it cannot lead Barbados up from the bottom of the cliff where we now lie, broken.

    I think that the only reasonable thing that can happen now is for Estwick to leave Cabinet and sit on an Independent bench temporarily and then engineer changes in Government from that seat. But then who knows what Estwick will actually do?

    The actual future dispensation of Government is indistinct in my crystal ball since there are so many permutations of possible events, personalities and propensities that could result in a wide variety of futures. I hope that one of those futures will be a new leader of the DLP in parliament as the effort would not be worth it if FS retains the leadership.


  12. @ A-W-T-Y
    Like Caswell, I believe the ball is in minister Estwick’s half of the court. The past 3 years show that P.M. Stuart has the ability to allow things to go on as if Estwick’s outbursts never occurred and presentation didn’t take place. P.M Stuart will force Estwick to shut up and get with the program or make his move.


  13. Observing on February 14, 2014 at 6:26 PM
    @Prodigal
    “How can Dr Estwick continue to be a member of this cabinet after this?

    Prodigal Daugther

    How can Mia Mottley remain leader of the BLP after all Owen Arthur has disparagingly said about her ?

    Bajans smarter than you think. After all is said and done….those in your BLP camp still make Bajans cringe !


  14. I have said on BU before and I repeat again…Dr. David Estwick cannot leave the DLP camp.
    Whatever maybe displeasing him at this time….he will have to bear it.
    But right now it is only the Dems that the Bajan electorate want.

    No amount of BLP rabble rousing is going to get the rational thinking Barbadians to become disgusted with their beloved DLP.

    While the BLP were planning mischief…we the Dems were ensuring that our CHIEFS were ready for the battle ahead.


  15. Loss in the melee of the discussion is the reality the economic policies have not been working. Should this not be the central issue? Is the government able to turn it around?


  16. @David, turn around what ? this incompetent lot having caused the situation we now find ourselves in cannot, & do not have the ability to reverse the downturn since – in their opinion — their policies were correct.


  17. Is Dr. Estwick rolling the wicket for a political move or just paving the the for an official IMF programme?

  18. are-we-there-yet? Avatar
    are-we-there-yet?

    Dr Estwick is not an idiot nor a certifiable madman.
    He was smiling broadly when he exited the marathon cabinet meeting.
    Could he have thought that he had swayed enough of his colleagues to make a difference into accepting that his alternative plan was feasible?
    Could we now have two factions in Cabinet, the ones who think that the UAE plan is workable and will solve most of their political problems against the others led by a normally pliable PM?
    Could there be a possibility in the very near future of a rollback of the Sinckler Strategy and acceptance of the Estwick plan, contrary to what the PM indicated at the St Andrew branch meeting?
    Would this indicate that there will be no earth shaking changes in the Government, just a changing of the rider of the Finance horse which was apparently Estwick’s main objective?
    Have the financial gurus actually looked very closely at the Estwick plan?
    Politically it might be very attractive, but financially, what are the drawbacks?
    Could the positive aspects of it outweigh the negative?

    The objectively verifiable indicators for how this battle is heading will be:

    A relatively quick changing of the holder of the Minister of Finance position (at least before the Estimates debate).
    A different tune coming from the PM over the next few weeks.
    All the DLP voices on this blog singing praises to Estwick.
    The Central Bank Governor himself singing a different tune or retiring for health reasons.
    A media campaign to extol the benefits of the Estwick plan.
    More Ministers and rank and file DLP people coming out against the steady state Sinckler strategy.


  19. “Your attempts to be balanced are mediocre at best ”
    Just couldn’t allow the commiseration to pass unnoticed bushie, yes, indeed , my attempts to be ‘balanced’ might very well be mediocre but that does not negate the reality that fact eventually triumphs over fiction ad satire too for one does not have to read between the lines to decipher the gravity of Mr Estwick’s profound indictment on his administration. “GOVERNMENT’S ERRORS RESPONSIBLE FOR PRESENT ECONOMIC CRISIS.” There you have it chapter and verse from the horse’s mouth. The proof of the pudding Bushie is indeed in the eating.


  20. Note the indictment of the Cabinet by Estwick extends to himself IF Cabinet is still regarded as a collective.


  21. David | February 16, 2014 at 1:02 PM |

    “Note the indictment of the Cabinet by Estwick extends to himself IF Cabinet is still regarded as a collective.”

    Not really if indeed as he says he was trying to point out to them the error of their ways since 2009; where he falls down is to remain in a Cabinet and subscribe through the mantra of collective responsibility to policies with which he did not agree. He could have taken a leaf out of Mr Ronald Toppin’s book who left the last BLP Cabinet when he and Mr Arthur could not see eye to eye over policy matters. Real nuff respect due to Mr Toppin. you think.


  22. @balance

    You are aware as recent as 1 year ago Estwick was seen and heard on the general election campaign in full support of the government’s economic strategy? Has he shown decent in the House when voting on The Estimates and other related resolutions/bills?


  23. “You are aware as recent as 1 year ago Estwick was seen and heard on the general election campaign in full support of the government’s economic strategy? Has he shown decent in the House when voting on The Estimates and other related resolutions/bills?”

    So did Mr Stuart with respect to his vow not to send home any workers, not to privatise, not to make students pay for university education but to be fair I do take your point; but on the one hand we are calling for parliamentarians to more forthright yet Mr Estwick’s newly found forthrightness has come under negative scrutiny. Tell me, David , what would you have done during the election campaign if you were in Mr Estwick’s position? With regards to support of the policies he now denounces publicly but which he says he did not support internally, haven’t we been saying that Cabinet members are bound by collective responsibility and he should not be disagreeing publicly with policy emanating from the Cabinet. Holding that view would dictate that he go against his conscience during the election campaign and in the affairs in Cabinet as well. Suppose Mr Estwick in his wisdom had become so fed up that he crossed the floor, what would have been your opinion of Mr Estwick?

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  24. @balance

    To repeat, Estwick had his chances in recent debates in the House to recant based on government’s about turn on UWI education and sending home workers. Why did he wait till the 11th hour?


  25. David

    Somehow I don’t think Estwick works according to your timetable so why comment in that regard.
    Deal with the substance of the issue not the cosmetics.


  26. I suppose like Mr Mascoll’s crossover to the BLP, only Mr Estwick knows. Perhaps he was not yet ready to battle the likes of AC, Fractured and the other apologists.


  27. @Gutterperc

    Estwick has a long history of rebellious behaviour, is inclined to the histrionics and vacillates. To allocate time to Estwick’s proposal it becomes a credibility matter as well.


  28. What a roll of crap you should be ashamed but then again you have a job to do. Here is a senior Minister saying what everyone in Barbados knows, starting with Thompson and culminating with Sinckler them destroy the economy of Barbados but worse still, them lie to get re-elected.

    Can you imagine Estwick throwing bombs at the DLP from the independent or opposition benches? That a real dooms day scenario and one that far away.


  29. Maybe crap to you but a senior minister openly hostile and in disagreement with his Cabinet and other colleagues will NOT foster the confidence and esprit de corps required to mobilize the country. Have you considered? This should not be about Estwick’s ego.


  30. Dear Mr. Genius Minister of Agriculture you have the opportunity to make an awesome contribution to restructuring the economy.
    1. Make Barbados 90% self sufficient in Food production.

    Introduce SOLAR energy to produce electricity to directly power all the chicken farms and to pump water from wells and ponds.

    3.Provide funding for Farmers who want to create more manageable food production operations. Fish farms, green houses.

    4 Create an organic vegetable industry by building green houses that meet the nest practices for certified organic food.

    Okay its sunday afternoon and I just writing Shiite. so wunna doan mine me.

    But I might put muh pennies wey muh mout is.


  31. David

    There is not confidence because public finances of this country are facked can’t you get that thru your thick skull?
    Who the hell is going to invest in a country which has all the indications that it is facked at that at some future stage the Government will default on its debts.


  32. @Gutterperc

    Who is going to invest anyway with a government which appears to be at war with itself?

    Now who has a thick skull?


  33. Confidence ain’t got anything to do with BLP or DLP or Stuart or Mottley, it has to do with the fact that this country has a debt to GDP of 150% and it continues to climb.


  34. @Gutterperc

    You need to stop navel gazing. The government has a 2-seat majority (5,000 votes separated the two at the last general election) governing a country split down the middle 40:40 DLP/BLP. The antics emanating from Cabinet and Donville’s house and how it is perceived by the public will play a role in how the debate is moved and carried in the public domain. For Estwick to attempt to move a national debate about the economy and at the same time do so spouting his rhetoric and orchestrations with the Nation will muddy the waters. It is a strategy 1010 matter.


  35. David
    I see. I don’t think this is about a debate. It seems to me the man has said you had to say and put for an alternative approach which is ask his Cabinet colleagues to consider.

    David Estwick does have all the answers but at least he is trying get intelligent debate going on how we can help ourselves. I just hope the Cabinet take the good parts to augment the current fiscal plan.

    If only the politics and egos could be left out we might just start on the road to recovery.


  36. “This should not be about Estwick’s ego”
    How can you be sure that it is about Mr Estwick’s ego?


  37. “Dear Mr. Genius Minister of Agriculture you have the opportunity to make an awesome contribution to restructuring the economy.”

    How about this Hants.
    Dear Mr Integrity Prime Minister when will you decide to contribute to the restructuring of the economy earn your handsome salary and by extension pension entitlements by ascribing to yourself duties commensurate with the handsome remuneration package you receive and the handsome pension to which you are entitled.


  38. Balance

    This nonsense is not about Estwick’s ego: it is about the wholesale dishonesty employed by the DLP in an effort to win the elections. Everything has caught up with them and they are still employing dishonest tactics to fool the public. If it is not that the only credible explanation for Estwick’s flip-flops is that they took him to Donville’s house where they plied him with enough to drink that he was compromised and they are now holding that over his head. Estwick cannot be that stupid; after all, he is a medical doctor and I hear a good one.

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  39. LIKE IT OR LUMP IT Avatar
    LIKE IT OR LUMP IT

    I want a poll conducted on BU. The Sinckler Plan or the Estwick Plan? I must say Estwick’s plan is thinking outside the box and I favour it.

    Freundel will do absolutely nothing. As Reudon Eversley puts it “Events will overtake PM Stuart”. I do not even think Stuart is the least perturbed or worried. Stuart seems not to really care or he is in his own world. He hasn’t even read the Clico report as yet!

    I see the following playing out: Donville Inniss becoming DLP leader by next general conference as a start. I have no idea if David Estwick will cross or not. This is a real suspense thriller movie. Not even Days of Our Lives with Stefano comes close.


  40. Is Dr. Estwick’s public rebuke of Cabinet decisions a breach of the Official Secrecy Act ?

    If it is proven , that Dr. Estwick indeed leaked his PPT document to the press even before Cabinet ruled one way or the other on it, is it a breach of the Official Secrecy Act ?
    Does the Nation newspaper publication of the same Cabinet presented PPT document breached any laws ?

    If so, can the Nation news paper be sued ?

    Is this matter still about ….U A E ?
    United Arab Emirates !!!! Or has it become…..E A U
    Estwick Against Us ??????

    Ponder on these things !!

  41. Caswell Franklyn Avatar

    There the DEMS go again trying to intimidate people again. Estwick’s PowerPoint presentation was not a cabinet document. It was one he prepared by himself, or with Owen Arthur’s assistance, who cares? He shared his intellectual property with Cabinet: the Cabinet Secretary, as far as I am aware, did not circulate the document, it is therefore not a cabinet document and subject to official secret status.

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  42. Calysonians have a lot of material for this year’s crop-over festival. Go RPB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  43. “Fractured BLP | February 17, 2014 at 1:04 AM |

    Is Dr. Estwick’s public rebuke of Cabinet decisions a breach of the Official Secrecy Act ?”
    You should ask yourself that question since you have been masquerading under a pseudonym as a cabinet insider and leaking happenings to the public since the spectacle began having been privy to the presentation of the power point presentation among other things..


  44. @Caswell, Well said above.

    Reality is, it is over. Elections are around the corner, to ignore this is ridiculous, and for those who ‘hold the cards’ to sit tight and refuse to budge, shows self interest over country.

    And, perchance ‘if’ allegations of giveaways for votes that were claimed to exist at last election were true, who will actually fund such this time??

    Tme longer than twine.


  45. Hello Balance,

    Remind me….which Cabinet decision did I publicly or privately REBUKE ?


  46. Haven’t we earlier establish that Cabinet collective responsibility is a constitutional convention?


  47. Constitutional convention, what the hell is that?


  48. The Prime Minister would be a fool not to give Dr Estwick responsibility for the Ministry of Finance & Economic Affairs. He has proven to be the only one in the DLP who has both competency and capability when it comes to matters on economy. Seems to me Dr Estwick is making public his proposals in the event that he leaves the DLP and the Stuart cabinet.

  49. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Fractured BLP | February 17, 2014 at 1:04 AM |

    It seems very likely your ‘glassy’ Cabinet is about to break into pieces .
    Don’t you think it’s time you change your moniker to “Broken up DLP” to reflect more clearly the realities in your mickey-mouse administration?

    Even Sir Lloyd is being critical of the jokey boss man accusing him of being so lethargic in his leadership that even his donkey cart is in front of him.

    Now, “Broken up DLP”, don’t you go cussing Ryan Straughn and the miller for telling your countrymen what is facing them as they look down the barrel of a devaluation gun. This is more ominously dangerous than the Powerpoint gunslinger shooting off his mouth and in breach of some Act you are totally ignorant about.

    Keep him in check by giving him the MoF. Stinkliar would be eternally grateful for relieving him of the intellectual constipation he is suffering from.


  50. The Prime Minister confirmed yesterday he will not fire Sinckler.

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