Obama – The Case for War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity

Submitted by Pachamama
Saudi Arabia's Prince Bandar bin Sultan al-Saud - Credit: The Wall Street Journal

Saudi Arabia’s Prince Bandar bin Sultan al-Saud – Credit: The Wall Street Journal

The failure of Saudi intelligence chief, Bandar Bush, to convince President Putin to withdraw political and other support from Syria in a visit to Moscow over two weeks ago was the trigger for the Western-backed false flag operation that may have led to the deaths of over 1400 Syrians in eastern Damascus. This is the same Bandar Bush who spent all day on 9/11 in the company of his brother George Bush, as POTUS. Bandar has been working surreptitiously for the past two years to topple the government of President Assad. This work was not unlike the skulduggery of 9/11, but grander. This time one of the PNAC objectives that inspired the self-inflicted wound was at work in the MENA countries known as the Clean Break Strategy. Bandar’s offer to Putin for economic and political concessions and corporation if he were to turn his back of Iran and Syria represented a final hurdle in widening the instability in the region in a cynical game of the exertion of power from Riyadh but given cover in the name of the hapless American people led by the serial war criminal, Barack Obama, for the first victim of war is the truth.

Base on their history, the proximity to events and very words of Bandar bin Sultan himself we are certain that this massacre of the innocent Syrian people was to construct a caucus beli for military action against a sovereign nation. But this does not represent a singular event. Obama has cold-bloodedly murdered 243 children by drone strikes in several countries; he is certainly complicit in the murder of tens of thousands of Syrians as he supports the Saudi and Qatari sponsored Al-Queda, Takfiris terrorist groups in Syria. The planned, criminal, humanitarian, intervention he is now implementing will likely kill many more Syrians. He has already murdered thousands of Libyans and even a head of state, leaving that country in a deepening chaos. This is a continuing war crime. He has been complicit in the deaths of 1400 Palestinians during December 2008. This is the same Obama who refuses to call what is happening in Egypt a military coup and supports a regime that has slaughtered thousands of Brotherhood supporters. With Bandar’s help he removed a legitimate government, democratically elected but who were guilty only of a gross misreading of the geo-political circumstance. This is a military which is using weapons supplied by Obama to murder Egyptians daily, but there will not be any action against this junta, for these are empire’s henchmen.

Is it any wonder Obama in response to questions about the crimes of his predecessor, he said he wanted to look forward not backward. It is clear now that he was building a defense for himself. We wonder if accused person in courts throughout his country can use this as an iron clad defense also. Could you imagine a cold blooded murderer telling a judge that because he was looking forward there was no need for a trial? The criminals in high places are getting bolder by the year. Enter, Bill Clinton, arguing for the invasion of Syria as if in a coordinated drill on 9/11. Of course, Bill and Hillary are positioning themselves for another presidential run in 2016 therefore the intervention to promote an illegal war of aggression against a sovereign state bolsters her resume and reminds the secret corporate government that Hillary is prepared to renew promises made last time around.

The war criminal, Obama, careless that up to six million Syrians are internally or externally displaced and living in refugee centers because of his illegal and dirty war of aggression. He cares not that the very terrorists the government of the United States is supporting and arming have killed holy men, eaten the organs of murdered tens of thousands of Syrians, destroyed holy places, murdered Christians, used chemical weapons more than 14 times and murdered Americans citizens. These are all the personal crimes committed by Obama. These are crimes for which the attention of the Justices at The Hague should be attracted.

How fitting it would be that the president of the country which drafted the Nuremberg Accords, at the end of the Second World War, find himself in front a court like the war criminal he is, but one should not hold one’s breathe. However, we detect a movement by the peoples of the world that seems unlike other moments in time. Maybe it is a better awareness of the continuing crimes of the powerful. Maybe we have turned our collective weaknesses in strengths. Maybe the patina of officials has been removed and they have been laid bare for all to see their hideous nakedness. Maybe we have entered a phase in human civilization where extremes measures have to be taken to confront the powerful. Maybe we all need nuclear weapons to deter a rampant, predatory, hegemonic, pernicious state like the USA. For we are willing to bet that if Syria had an ability to deliver nuclear bombs on New York and Washington; London and Tel Aviv; the war criminal Obama would be limited in his response and would not have destabilized the country in the first place. Why does this tin pot dictator, Obama, not attack North Korea or Iran? Why, because missiles will rain on American cities and their other global interests. We say all countries must now move to possess nuclear weapons to deter the perpetual American tyrant.

Also interesting to us is the almost complete defanging of the international legal regime. More precisely, there has been an utter disregard for all standards of law at home and abroad by the USA and Obama when that serves their purposes. Under international law a country cannot, but in self defense, attach another sovereign state. Only the United Nations has the right to declare war. But Russia would object so sixty-five (65) years of legal precedent must totally go the way of the dodo bird as aided by the initial assaults by Bush and the Zionist before him for many years, and since. The peoples of the world are in duck’s gut if they are waiting for a supine United Nation, the Security Council, the General Assembly or the Secretary General Ban Ki Moon to defend our right. The UN systems can’t even control the most wicked nation ever known to man from illegal spying on protected discussions between sovereign nations. This in itself is a war crime by Obama.

So we have Russia deploying additional military assets to the Mediterranean. Russia, Iran and China are upping their rejections of the illegal demands of Obama. Putin has ordered his generals to prepare for an all out assault on Riyadh should the war criminal proceed with their illegal acts against Syria. Hollande, the war criminal currently conducting an illegal war on Mali tried desperately to give legitimacy to this aggression against the people of Syria. Cameron, the most dependable lap dog has taken a hint, over the last few days, and is seeking to delay the war he seeks because the British Parliament is not ready to be fooled again, like it was by the war criminal in chief, Tony Blair. A man Owen Arthur used to enjoy cavorting with around the world and in Barbados. The Syrian government and people are not afraid of these war criminals for they have more than adequate strategic responses in this war of aggression that only serves the Zionists, for without continued war and expansionism Zionism itself will be on its death bed.

Over the next few days the cold hearted brute of a front man, Obama, will have to put up or shut up. If this criminal wants some sort of cheap war, where he thinks he can fire a number of Tomahawk missiles from afar into strategic assets of the Government of Syrian, he has a next thing coming. He might as well go for the full Monty. But every USA military base in the region, there are about 32, will be levelled. Every frigate will be sunk, every submarine will be mined, every war plane will be shot down and all the territory in northern Palestine, beyond the Golan Heights, will be recovered driving the Zionist out, to whence they came. The Syrian people, their army and their friends will deliver a shocking retaliation to all the centres from whence aggression comes. In addition, they will flatten Tel Aviv and other strategic centres, population areas in occupied Palestine and deliver a crushing defeat the imperialistic, colonial forces of darkness, as led by Satan himself.

But the Great Shatan might have second thoughts because things seem not to be progressing like how they fooled most of the people after 9/11. Less than 10% of the British people want this war. Not even their criminal friends in the Middle East are overtly supporting them. They seem to be recognizing that they have not succeeded with their efforts to weaken Syria from within or peel off the support of their friends externally. Bandar failed in persuading Putin; the Zionist they sent to Tehran last weekend was rebuffed and the Chinese would not even talk to them. Only the echo chamber that is CNN, MSNBC, FOX News and the other state propagandists are buying this old pack of lies that has a two hundred year history from the Spanish American War, used many, many times since, but was more recently deployed in invade Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Libya and Mali. On the other hand the nitwit in the White House also knows there is a high price to be paid to the secret government if he does not keep the promises he made when, during the first election 2008, when he sneaked away from the campaign and, along with Hillary Clinton made a deal with the Devil himself.

We call on the American people to arrest Obama and bring him before the same type of courts he has established. We call on the arms services of the USA to disobey all illegal orders and arrest any person in the chain of command who issues illegal orders.

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304 Comments on “Obama – The Case for War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity”

  1. David August 31, 2013 at 7:33 AM #

    @ac

    Do you understand what brainwashing means?

    Justice is not a consequence of legacy. In other words it does not matter what the USA, UK or any other country as done which Barbados has benefitted, what matters is that the decision taken now must be just. The USA does NOT have 100% proof to this minute who is responsible for the heinous act committed in Syria.

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  2. rastafarimakonem August 31, 2013 at 7:45 AM #

    I remember the BU of old…..amazing how everyone’s biases and political affiliations have become so blatant.

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  3. Well Well. August 31, 2013 at 7:50 AM #

    I am happy Obama did not go to the same school as ac and has not reached that lower level to take any advice from her. The last contrived war in Iraq saw Canada being snubbed because they saw it for what it was, a lying scam of an excuse to murder and steal, the brits were following the US and suffered huge losses, people are starving in England, cannot buy food, same thing is happening in the US.

    If i had my way i would post ac to Syria so she can start fighting, see how she likes them apples. ac you should be more concerned about the people in Barbados who are now unable to eat a daily meal, and there is no war on the island but people are starting to suffer, what does that tell you about the conditions.

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  4. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 7:55 AM #

    Well Well
    LOL

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  5. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 7:58 AM #

    Under international law the aggressor has NO rights, only responsibilities.

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  6. David August 31, 2013 at 8:12 AM #

    @Pacha

    Even Obama is on record that America is a war fatigued nation. This must mean that the foreign policy of the US is not working. BU urge Obama to go back to his speech which he delivered from the ME early in his first term. Committing to war which desecrates the sacred and achient lands of the ME will not improve relations.

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  7. LOOK August 31, 2013 at 8:14 AM #

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/kerry-lays-out-evidence-of-chemical-weapons-attack-by-syria/2013/08/30/d1c19d58-118f-11e3-bdf6-e4fc677d94a1_story.html

    Someone had to take down Hitler who exterminated six million Jews primarily through the use of chemical weapons. Many today doubt the Holocaust ever existed and content that Ann Frank was a hoax. Someone has to take down the Syrian regime but many doubt that Syria is responsible for thousands of deaths that have occurred through the use of chemical weapons and they are. Problem is Hitler’s operations were open and obvious, Syria is more discrete.

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  8. millertheanunnaki August 31, 2013 at 8:16 AM #

    @ Pachamama | August 31, 2013 at 7:23 AM |

    We are still hesitant to accept that the Americans would strike Syria given the threat from Putin about razing Riyadh.
    Unless Obama has been given the nod by Putin behind the scenes we can’t contemplate such a move which could result in the oil fields that help feed the gargantuan appetite of Western capitalism going up in permanent environmentally-destroying smoke. Putin holds the match but would he drop it in the water or strike and toss it on the spreading petrol spill?

    Should we interpret Putin threats to attack Saudi Arabia if Syria is attacked by Western forces as mere brazen braggadocio in his tit-for-tat ego duel with Obama?
    Are we not simply witnessing a ‘mock-up’ replay of the standoff between the USSR and USA in the Cuban missile crisis?

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  9. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 8:16 AM #

    @ David

    You should have given more info on Bandar. As you can see his mother was a Black woman. For this he will never become the king of SA. This is supported by a nonsense that the so-called Arabs are some other race other than African. Notwithstanding Bandar is maybe one of the most powerful persons in the House of Saud because of his international connections to politicians, business leaders and especially elements within the European and American security agencies, like the CIA, NSA, Mossad and scores more. In fact, he is the leader, working with Mossad and the CIA in this criminal project.

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  10. LOOK August 31, 2013 at 8:26 AM #

    http://news.yahoo.com/does-obama-need-congressional-approval-to-bomb-syria–174613463.html

    Although Commander in Chief, Obama must FIRST acquire congressional approval to strike Syria. Cameron in Britain didn’t need it, Obama does. George Bush in 2003 did not receive United Nations approval to enter the Iraq war but did seek and receive congressional approval. He had to. Obama can and may strike Syria without the United Nations approval and without congressional approval ONLY if Syria attacks the United States directly. Other than hacking Twitter and The New York Times, Syria has not attacked the United States.

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  11. LOOK August 31, 2013 at 8:46 AM #

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/17/us-g-idUSBRE95F0JK20130617

    (Reuters) – Russian President Vladimir Putin faced further isolation on the second day of a G8 summit on Tuesday as world leaders lined up to pressure him into toning down his support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad

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  12. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 8:48 AM #

    The Miller
    You must know that Putin is not one given to being a braggart. Do you remember when the Georgians played the fool, the Russians didn’t keep too much noise, but when they (Georgia) transgressed it was a massive show of force. Putin is a ‘former’ KGB man remember. The national strategic interests are high. Military theory and praxis always talks about strategic depth and Russia knows that the Americans are looking to surround them and threaten them the same way they are surrounding and threatening Iran and Syria. So the Russians have every incentive to fight this war on other peoples’ lands. This is military strategy again. You always avoid fighting wars on the home front. Then there is the oil/gas question which almost all wars in the 20th century were about. If Russia looses Syria from its sphere of influence it opens Western Europe to cheaper natural gas. The US will use that as a strategic lever against Russia, China and Iran. We could go on and on, but we think you get our drift.

    Having said that, we agree with you that virtually all actors like to avoid war for it is a real messy business the effects of which last forever. Then there is the ever present determination of a selfish ‘national interest’ where actors historically trick others (allies) and stay out leaving some to feel the full brunt by themselves. Syrian has had this experience with Egypt in the Six Day War with the Zionists. Iran, would rather talk for a century then enter any war at all. In fact the greatest military generals of all times have argued that avoidance of war is the best victory of all. However, there will be apprehensions on all sides. Efforts will be made to avoid an escalation during a hot war. And diplomatic attempts will ensue from the beginning to control escalation and negotiate a cease fire. In short, apprehension is rife but we have to be able to balance a range of other factors to make a determination, as well. The stakes rite large, on all sides. For the Americans, the end of Empire advancement and domination. For the Russians and Chinese increased hegemonic pressures. Pressures that could limit their independence. Russian will loose its only warm water port and access to the Mediterranean. This will give the Americans a stupendous strategic victory and it would then be able to concentrate more fully against China.

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  13. David August 31, 2013 at 8:53 AM #

    And this is the point Pacha which ac fails to absorb. This is not about US intervening on humanitarian grounds, it s geopolitics at its best.

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  14. ac August 31, 2013 at 9:03 AM #

    David what do u mean by just . is it justifiable that right before your eyes people are dying because a dictator whose only right to goverance was handed to him by inheritance. David what do u called Just the unheard cries and voices of those whocan.t defend themselves against that tyrannical dictator. David Human rights is not a pivilege but a guarantee and should benefit all even if have to be executed and deliver by war.

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  15. LOOK August 31, 2013 at 9:07 AM #

    Obama is not Putin’s “yes sir” man and proved it.US President Barack Obama will not have a meeting with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin at the G20 Leaders’ Summit slated for Sep 5-6 in St Petersburg, Russia, a senior US official said. Obama cancelled a planned summit with Putin earlier last month, as relations between the two countries had turned sour over the past year, in particular over Syria, missle defence, human rights and Russia granting asylum to Edward Snowden.
    That shit, “yes sir” and “yes maam” is what BLP member Dale Marshall does so eloquently. Those deaths at Arch Cott Britton Hill he said “could have happened to anybody”. Building on that land should not have been allowed. It, however, involved BLP member, Mia Mottley.

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  16. ac August 31, 2013 at 9:14 AM #

    So on the geopolitical front ac would prefer an american control than the communist CHINA and RUSSIaN control. next step would be the ciontrol of SPEECH .You guys are giving much leadway to two countries who have by example for years ruled their countries with iron fist ac is not obliviuos of that reality america domination and world control would be a much safer place to be given the two alternatives..

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  17. BAFBFP August 31, 2013 at 9:15 AM #

    Is stupidity a sickness ..?

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  18. David August 31, 2013 at 9:19 AM #

    @ac

    People die everyday across the globe, why do you think Syria is a priority? The issue here is whether the USA has incontrovertible proof that Hassas is the instigator. The answer is no and it is the reason the UK parliament voted against. Do you think the UK parliament should not be concerned about human rights? Stay with the argument please!

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  19. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 9:23 AM #

    The Miller
    We wanted to mention a few other things. Firstly,we could never understand why military science is not thought at the UWI – not even a course. For war gives us meaning. You really can’t be an international businessman of the highest order, for example, unless you understand the thinking of the top military generals, the good ones. Secondly, the best generals always try to get other people to fight for them, for obvious reasons. In the case of Syria the Russians and the Iranians and Chinese were winning that proxy war there. They were weeks away from total victory. So Obama has to try to change the facts on the ground, with tactical responses, if he were to achieve his strategic goals. Goals that his proxy war was not delivering. Thirdly, it is important to know the mind of the general (Obama). We know that he is just as warlike as any other American president. WE also know that he would prefer to fight what he calls ‘smart wars’, meaning others fighting and paying the price (Saudis, Qataris) with limited US overt involvement, but massive deception though. These are the additional ideas we had about your correct perception of hesitancy by the belligerents.

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  20. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 9:31 AM #

    Sometimes during the last century the Americans were even supporting both sides in conflicts to have them destroy each other – Iran/Iraq imposed war of the 1980’s, for example. War is never an end in itself but a means to achieve political objectives.

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  21. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 9:35 AM #

    The Miller
    No, we think that global circumstances will not re-create the historical moment as existed at the turn of the 20th century. No more ideological conflicts of that nature. This is a much different world

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  22. BAFBFP August 31, 2013 at 9:43 AM #

    Before 1943, which side was the US really on ..(Prescott Bush and friends included)?

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  23. LOOK August 31, 2013 at 10:12 AM #

    Hitler during WW II had allies, Japan’s emperor Hirochito and Italy’s Musolini .; all three had a motive. Assad in Syria is the modern day Hitler has them also, allies: Russia, China and Iran; all three have motive.
    The League of Nations was established after WW I; its objective was primarily to prevent war. The United Nations replaced the League of Nations because the League of Nations failed to prevent WW II. The United Nations like the League of Nations has become problematic. China and Russia in the United Nations are continuously blocking Syrian solutions, but both China and Russia have motives. So now [If] the United States strikes Syria, it will do so without the United Nations approval.

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  24. BAFBFP August 31, 2013 at 10:21 AM #

    The Geopolitical agenda of the US, indeed the political agenda of any so called democracy, depends heavily on the shaping of the opinions of idiots in order to succeed, and the more idiots there are in this world, the easier it is for those who seek only to exploit its riches.

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  25. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 10:28 AM #

    The Miller
    Remember, that Russia can claim self defense in attacking Riyadh because Bandar threatened the Russian Olympics with terrorist attacks and bragged that Saudi Arabia controlled Chechnya terrorists or separatists some of which are currently fighting in Syria. And Putin would have just cause.

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  26. Kiki August 31, 2013 at 10:30 AM #

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  27. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 10:33 AM #

    BAF
    There has never been, in the brief history of mankind, a more ignorant nation that the American people. Ignorance is the greatest industry in the country. This is not by accident, it is a construct. Of course, American ignorance has spawned nit wits like Bandar in high places and perpetual ignorant minions like AC-DC, at the low end, no pun intended.

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  28. Simple Simon August 31, 2013 at 10:36 AM #

    @Pacha “We call on the American people to arrest Obama and bring him before the same type of courts he has established. We call on the arms services of the USA to disobey all illegal orders and arrest any person in the chain of command who issues illegal orders.”

    Int gine happen pacha, int gine happen.

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  29. ac August 31, 2013 at 10:38 AM #

    Britain had less of a proof to enter Iraq however they did . In this war the evidence being presented give a more likely than not reason to believe that ,chemical warfare has been unleashed on the syrian people the difference might be ONLY by whose hands since they are many waring factions making it inconclusive however going by the nature of the injuries there is sufficient proof of chemical interaction with the victims

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  30. Simple Simon August 31, 2013 at 10:39 AM #

    Am I the only one who noticed that Prince Bandar bin Sultan al-Saud real real cute.

    Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Those bushy eyebrows. Sweet den.

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  31. LOOK August 31, 2013 at 10:47 AM #

    http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Canada+loses+continuing+high+levels+poverty/8698507/story.html

    @ Well Well

    Have you lately checked the poverty rate in Canada?

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  32. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 10:49 AM #

    @ Simple Simon

    We know, we agree, but feel it is the legal and morally right thing to do. Ordinary people must know their range of options, in all circumstances. American soldiers and officials swear to protect the country from enemies, foreign and domestic. A war criminal is himself an enemy to the American people when he breaks the laws of war. In the past soldiers, both American and Russian, refused to launch nuclear weapons because their conscious told them that the order was illegal.The constitution of the USA says that international conventions and treaties, signed by the USA, are US law. On these bases, such an action is warranted, but you are quite right, that will never happen. We say gross double standards!

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  33. LOOK August 31, 2013 at 10:51 AM #

    @ Pachamana

    The united States owns the patient name Barbados Black Belly Sheep, not Barbados. This happened because those ignorant Barbados people let it happen.

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  34. David August 31, 2013 at 10:55 AM #

    @ac

    Are you serious in your last comment? Think about it. Could it be that US’s staunchest friend in war has pullback because fool me once fool me twice….

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  35. Bush Tea August 31, 2013 at 11:17 AM #

    @ David
    …so wunna SERIOUSLY discussing world affairs wid ac ?!?

    Shiite man!
    Think about your reputation..
    As blogmaster we need to be able to respect you….

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  36. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 11:24 AM #

    @ David

    You before the fall of the USSR the Americans promised ‘Russia’ that they would not bring NATO to its borders. A promised quickly broken. Now NATO is at its border. Before the invasion of Libya, again, the Americans promised Russia and China that the ‘no-fly zone’ was essentially to deny Qaddafi air superiority, over ‘the opposition’. It was turned into a full scaled invasion to destroy Libya. Again, another promise broken. But this is not new, America has been telling lies from its beginning. Remember 40 acres and a mule? Russia and China have determined that they will not be fooled again, and rightly so. The Iranians do not trust them at all, and they trust the British even less, given their histories with them.

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  37. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 11:26 AM #

    @ Bushie

    AC-DC is so ignorant she has to be taken in small measures. Today, David is trying to make a hand of her. We beg your forgiveness of him LOL.

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  38. ac August 31, 2013 at 11:36 AM #

    Yet maybe some truth to what you say David . However Britain could have taken the evidence so far produce on its own merit and not got bogged down with psychological importance attached to Iraq but access and form conclusion as to what is happening in Syria. When all is said and done Britain would be remembered as a toothless and gutless world power who did nothing

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  39. David August 31, 2013 at 11:39 AM #

    @ac

    Perhaps, and rightly so, the UK parliament has defined evidence to mean POSITIVE proof given the weight attached to a decision to invade a sovereign country.

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  40. ac August 31, 2013 at 11:45 AM #

    @BUSH TEA………….even the dull and ignorant have they say including u the little tin horn dictator and those regimes that u so fully endorse

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  41. Technician August 31, 2013 at 12:08 PM #

    Meanwhile….no one sees the elephant in the room.

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  42. David August 31, 2013 at 12:11 PM #

    @Techie

    Do you mean Israel?

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  43. BAFBFP August 31, 2013 at 12:20 PM #

    Wait Techie, you and the Rasta guy is one and the same?

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  44. DR. THE HONOURABLE August 31, 2013 at 12:26 PM #

    Simple Simon | August 31, 2013 at 10:39 AM |
    Am I the only one who noticed that Prince Bandar bin Sultan al-Saud real real cute.

    Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Those bushy eyebrows. Sweet den.
    ————————————————————

    This is the kind of foolishness that you get from Women
    and that is why women should be kept far away from most things.

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  45. ac August 31, 2013 at 12:31 PM #

    But there has been sufficient POSITIVE proof given the secerity and conditons of the victims. i would most likely side with Britain if they claim that substantial proof cannot be fingered to one source alone. However given the last weeks events and the outrage by other countries including britian one would have to be inept to think differently. Britian decision one can conclude is merly physchological which has backed them into a corner of being callous and shortsighted Syria deserves better.

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  46. David August 31, 2013 at 12:35 PM #

    @ac

    Correction: there is enough proof that chemical may have been used BUT there is no “positive proof” yet who released it. Let us hear what the UN Inspectors have to say, not that their report will mean much to the US.

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  47. Bush Tea August 31, 2013 at 12:37 PM #

    @ ac
    @BUSH TEA………….even the dull and ignorant have they say
    ************
    No doubt you have a significant contribution to make ac. As you say we all have our roles.
    However, yours does NOT involve any rational or logical thinking…

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  48. David August 31, 2013 at 12:50 PM #

    Is this statement by Putin a sensible one? If the US has evidence give it to the Security Council.

    “Russian President Vladimir Putin has declared utter nonsense the idea that the Syrian government has used chemical weapons on its own people and called on the US to present its supposed evidence to the UN Security Council.

    Putin has further called the Western tactic a provocation.

    Washington has been basing its proposed strategy of an attack on Syria on the premise that President Bashar Assads government forces have used chemical agents, while Russia finds the accusations unacceptable and the idea of performing a military strike on the country even more so. Especially as it would constitute a violation of international law, if carried out without the approval of the UN Security Council.

    Further to this, Putin told Obama that he should consider what the potential fallout from a military strike would be and to take into consideration the suffering of innocent civilians.

    The Russian president has expressed certainty that the strategy for a military intervention in Syria is a contingency measure from outside and a direct response to the Syrian governments recent combat successes, coupled with the rebels retreat from long-held positions. “

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  49. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 1:14 PM #

    Putin can not be compared with Obama as far as intelligence or common sense goes. Putin is an intellectual giant and Obama is an intellectual ant, a media creation, like Ri-Ri. We are never going to support anybody because they Black, and that is all! On the other hand Obama is meagerly a media creation, in fact Obama won the media award beating out people like Nike. This thing about Yale and Harvard is a joke. A lot of infantile minds are ‘alma-matered’ there.

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  50. Well Well. August 31, 2013 at 1:20 PM #

    Look…………people actually benefit financially from poverty and lose no sleep whatever over it, it is a blue print for the greedy.

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  51. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 1:29 PM #

    It is this intellectual ant who permitted that dwarf, Susan Rice, as his national security adviser, to lock him into an unsustainable position. It was the dwarf Susan Rice who staked him out in an diplomatic no-mans land. There, he remains an easy target for his foes, including us. On the other side, another woman, Samantha Power has pushed this humanitarian agenda for years, in academia and elsewhere. Finally, she found a foolly-the-fifth that took it seriously. He is between the devil (war) and the deep blue sea (strategic catastrophe). We call this checkmate in Great Game Politics. These vagabonds had to virtually change out positions after Rice tricked the Russians, the Chinese and the members of the UNSC.

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  52. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 1:57 PM #

    What an idiot, he wants to obfuscate and pass the responsibility to Congress. B***shit. You have been defeated, diplomatically, strategically. The people of the world have stood up to you, the ugly American. You should lay down and play dead, because you are, you war criminal.

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  53. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM #

    This is a huge defeat for the war criminal Obama, and the USA. The new world we seek is starting to breathe. A big step down, capitulation, humble pie. Now, you should take the vengeance your masters will deliver to you.

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  54. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 2:13 PM #

    Now is the time for the Syrian government and its allies to continue to wipe out all remaining vestiges of terrorists on Syrian soil.

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  55. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 2:15 PM #

    Where is the army of supporters of the Great Satan? You must have the courage to face this staggering diplomatic defeat like men and women. This is the acceleration of your end!

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  56. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 2:21 PM #

    You know the colonialists cannot stand to have not even one descenter to its hegemony. Where is the main idiot AC-DC? Is she waiting for her friends to tell her what to think about Obama’s remarkable capitulation? Come meet us at this Valhalla!

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  57. David August 31, 2013 at 2:24 PM #

    Thousands marched in London today against any plan of US led invasion.

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  58. David August 31, 2013 at 2:28 PM #

    Relax Pacha, you are salivating, perhaps premature.

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  59. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 2:33 PM #

    He knows that Congress will not approve this. They have already told him that. This is just an out.

    @ David

    We have better insights into this matter than you or anybody here. This is the end. Obama only wants a face saying way to step down. We will allow that.

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  60. Well Well. August 31, 2013 at 2:43 PM #

    Bloggers spent the whole night condemning this call for war, personally just because israel is so blood thirsty for war is the second reason there should not be one, the first being the untold misery and loss of innocent lives it will cost, it’s always the innocents who die in these man made carnage and atrocities.

    ac………..in hope you learned something from this, i am not holding my breath so don’t worry.

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  61. BAFBFP August 31, 2013 at 3:22 PM #

    If Pacha is correct, there is still the third option… I call it the “Chavez” option …!

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  62. ac August 31, 2013 at 3:55 PM #

    As to u Bush (ea on having any opinion credible or otherwise as to the opinions of woman.well i put such mentality in the same catergory ofthose regimes who still find it plausible for woman to walk two steps behnd men.

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  63. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 4:19 PM #

    BAF
    Has our judgement on any matter ever been proved wrong? We re-iterate, Obama has been isolated at home and abroad and he now seeks a way to step back while saving face. That’s why he is trying to pam it off to congress because the leaders of congress have already told him no. Presidents like to control all possible political outcomes. Why would he send this to a congress the leaders of which have already told him no. We don’t know how much David knows about the American system but the ‘executive president’ has no regard for that war authorization requirement of the US constitution. It now represents a transfer of war waging authority back to congress and Obama is going find opposition to that also from the neo-cons. These points of view will soon emerge. At that point, David, the man who has a quintessential, neo-colonialist mentality, buried within a backward Bajan ethos and which makes him dependent on a current of thought which he likes to think is more persuasive than ours, to emerge and confirm our reading of this situation from early, to tell him we were and are right from the very beginning. And we talk about change. What change can there be, when we can’t see the future, or even accurately perceive events, before the herd arrives.

    As far as assassination is concerned, they are attempting to do that all the time.This is a given and the very nature of the American Empire. But the results will be the same as open war, if they succeed with that option. Assad is not afraid to die because he know what will come thereafter for his enemies.

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  64. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 4:31 PM #

    If fact, we dare say, that if he had invaded Syria it would have been a worse diplomatic and military defeat. Zionist territory would have been occupied and the Golan Heights and Shaba Farms and more would have been returned to their rightful owners. So in some ways, this has not been as bad as it could have been.

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  65. Simple Simon August 31, 2013 at 5:01 PM #

    @Dr. the Honorable “This is the kind of foolishness that you get from Women and that is why women should be kept far away from most things.”

    Hundreds of thousands of women will die in childbirth next year. Hundreds of thousands died in childbirth last year, and hundreds of thousands more the year before and the year before that, and the year before that, and the year before that, and the year before that and so on and so forth ad infinitum

    So if the boys of war want to take out their new toys and kill one another you expect me to care?

    I DON’t CARE.

    I was born.

    I live.

    I will died.

    This is not news to me. And if I don’t die from disease or old age, very likely I will die because a man has killed me. I have always known this.

    Women understand death. All young women come face to face with death very early in their lives.

    Maybe war in men’s attempt to play catch up (to have their own 100,000 deaths per year) to experience the female reality. To pretend that life is dangerous for for men, to deliberately create a substitute danger.

    So maybe the boys with the guns and the tanks and the nuclear weapons will kill me. So what?

    The bad boy on the block with a half a scissors can kill me too.

    My own man in the house can kill me.

    And yet I walk unafraid.

    P()ck off.

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  66. Simple Simon August 31, 2013 at 5:07 PM #

    If one in every hundred women who has ever been born has died in childbirth, how many women is that?

    And I don’t here ANY MEN LOSING ANY SLEEP OVER THAT.

    I don’t hear any geo-political meetings being held over that.

    Why not?

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  67. Kiki August 31, 2013 at 5:31 PM #

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  68. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 5:36 PM #

    The American project in the MENA is taking some body blows……….
    “Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan described the recent power transfer in Egypt a military coup sponsored by Saudi Arabia and an unforgivable treachery by the Wahhabi rulers in Riyadh”

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  69. David August 31, 2013 at 5:39 PM #

    @Pacha

    Obama devolving to Congress is DEMOCRACY at work…lol.

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  70. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 5:49 PM #

    @ David
    You still yearn to trust these politicians too thought. At some point we will introduce you to some of them and then you’ll see how ordinary they are. You have more sense that most of them, by far. So why wait for them to lead us anywhere?

    His ‘devolving’ is just another political trick. Now he can say he showed leadership but the Congress did not approve a war resolution. Poor fellow, let us allow his a graceful back down. Surprised you didn’t spot it more quickly. Even before the words came from his mouth we knew the game plan and were writing here about it. Although we have defeated him on this one it does not mean that chicanery will end, or that Empire will fall tomorrow, but its a big nail in their coffin.

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  71. Kiki August 31, 2013 at 5:50 PM #

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  72. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 5:55 PM #

    Especially these Saudis, they got a lot of money, real, but they are some of the must stupid people you’ll ever meet. They could not even plan a good false flag that would really support Obama’s case. As a result, he looks stupid.

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  73. Well Well. August 31, 2013 at 6:27 PM #

    Simple Simon…….I would ignore Dr., his beef is with you looking at a guys eyebrows and admiring it, ask him if when women pass by him he keeps his eyes on their faces only, you can guarantee his eyes are alive with admiration on their chests and backsides while he hi-5s his buddies, he is jealous, tell him if you could see his eyebrows you would admire them too or not..

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  74. Pachamama August 31, 2013 at 6:41 PM #

    @ David
    Now that some of the people you have more truss in that us are coming out with the kinds of determinations we made we hope you are now enlightened. Some, Paul Craigg Roberts, are calling it the greatest diplomatic defeat in American history. We didn’t go that although we knew it was a huge defeat. Go figure!

    @ BAF
    Thanks for your singular support. Now, this is a man who has his own brain.

    http://www.infowars.com/obama-collapses-will-seek-congressional-approval/

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  75. David August 31, 2013 at 6:45 PM #

    @Pacha

    It does not look good for Obama and don’t forget John Kerry BUT there is time.

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