Prime Minister Stuart’s Quandary Unravelled

Prime Minister Fruendel Stuart

In addressing the question of whether it is better to be loved or feared, Machiavelli writes, “The answer is that one would like to be both the one and the other; but because it is difficult to combine them, it is far safer to be feared than loved if you cannot be both.” As Machiavelli asserts, commitments made in peace are not always kept in adversity; however, commitments made in fear are kept out of fear. Yet, a prince must ensure that he is not feared to the point of hatred, which is very possible – Niccolò Machiavelli

Prime Minister Fruendel Stuart finds himself in a quandary as a result the widely publicised letter incident. It is a fact some members of the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) felt it important enough to seek an audience with the Prime Minister. Whether all of them agreed to sign ‘The Letter’ is irrelevant at this stage in light of Minister of Finance Chris Sinckler’s interview with Editor in Chief of the NATION newspaper Kaymar Jordan.

Since the revelation that some DLP members are concerned with  Stuart’s leadership and the length of his coat tails with a general election looming the political chatter has gotten noisier. The current reality for the government is that having to manage in the harsh economic environment would have made being re-elected a difficult undertaking. The imbroglio caused by ‘The Letter’ has easily shifted the advantage to the Barbados Labour Party (BLP) its own perceived leadership issues not withstanding.  Why the disaffected group would have entertained thoughts of communicating with the Prime Minister in the form of a letter remains unfathomable at this stage. Some say it is as a result of political ignorance and naiveté. Others believe the plot is a sinister effort to reorder the political structure of the DLP.

The debate will continue why Minister Sinckler made the decision to give the NATION a reveal-all interview. It is obvious from the Prime Minister’s few public remarks about the incident that he would not have approved the interview. Sinckler could not be so naive to believe that his tête-à-tête with NATION newspaper Kaymar Jordan given the weighty nature of his revelations would have killed the controversy for the DLP. He must have known or even been advised that his position within the hierarchy of the DLP would become tenuous at best. His admission in the NATION interview that he would never put forward his name just over one year of doing so since the death of David Thompson is instructive. A politician never says never. Why then has Sinckler signalled that he will never put his name in any hat to vie for the Prime Minister’s job? The answer probably is explained by a comment posted on a related blog.  If this is the case Barbadians have witnessed the sudden fall of a young politician of whom much was expected.

‘The Letter’ has created a headache for the Prime Minister. His options are limited. He can’t do nothing. Whatever he does must positively feed public perception that he is in charge of his men. The question is: will it be enough to sway the voter? Bear in mind many voters are currently siting on the fence for one reason or the other. One of those reasons which should concern not only the political parties but Barbadians themselves is a growing cynicism of politicians.

Sinckler indicated in the interview he sees no reason why the Prime Minister should fire him.  If Sinckler in his naiveté expects to continue his role, in a business as usual mode in the cabinet of Barbados, then the only conclusion to be drawn is that he is forcing Stuart’s hand to fire him.

Recommendation – send Sinckler to the Ministry of Transport, drop Boyce from the cabinet, Estwick to Finance and divvy up Estwick’s portfolio to Lowe, Kellman and Benn.

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224 Comments on “Prime Minister Stuart’s Quandary Unravelled”

  1. Brief December 21, 2011 at 9:05 PM #

    David | December 20, 2011 at 6:00 AM |
    @brief

    These men are loyal to David Thompson the late. No discussion. NO clarification.

    These were Thompson’s men as you say yet he appointed Stuart and Thompson’s men selected Stuart.

    Isn’t this an obvious sign that Thompson felt his men were not ready and they themselves by selecting Stuart after Thompson’s death agreed?
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    Thompson’s men toed the line until further notice.

    It is alleged that late Thompson wanted Chris Sinckler to become PM and lead by HH Chris was appointed MoF to further enhance his ‘image’ and create acceptability for the PM position.

    When we look at when the re-shuffle was made and the timing of DT’s death – can you truly believe that DT was in a position to make sound decisions? Will one say to me that DT was comfortable and in sound mind without drifting off and returning to normal?

    HH tried his best to discredit Estwick (time longer than twine) … and HH is fixated now in positioning Chris.

    If you say that the DLP will lose the Gov’t except we put forward Chris. All Ministers will want to meet based on the polls and to put forward the best plausible strategy including replacing PM Stuart now before it’s too ‘late’.

    Those polls were conducted in St. Michael – for a national poll why only choose the areas where people are familiar with the individual that you want to lead.

    Yes, PM Stuart acted as PM during the late DT’s illness – did Stuart at any-time took a decision in his hand? Constant consultation was with the PM. Who was the PM’s political advisor and best friend?

    PM Stuart does not practice treason – and the team supported him during a very difficult time – they could have voted for Chris but they themselves did not have the confidence in Chris.

    The majority does not have the confidence in him (Chris) now either – however, as I said earlier if I give the impression that the majority is with me – the PM will have cause for concern. Plus, Wickham pushing that the people want Chris and so, the MP’s fear that the image is not what the people will go with.

    The people in Barbados want a leader of integrity, blameless, spotless. They will support PM Stuart!!! He will make decisions based on what he believes to be the truth. If PM Stuart perceives that the truth is tainted he just will not mete out any drastic discipline. He is that type of character.

    Notice that he did not pull his inner circle (visibly into him) when he became PM. He allowed the people to be confident in themselves and to show their worth whilst becoming familiar with their duties and developing.

    If the DLP loses this next election – all those people will be unemployed because we KNOW how BLP elected MP’s treat DLP supporters. Advisors/Counsellors/Friends are good – common sense, when heeded, will always exceed untimely advice.

    By the way – we out here know that there is a Chris following and a Stuart following – we heard it months ago even when the Chris’ following was denying it. It is real now – however – the eleven is NOT a Chris following a fraction of the eleven is the die-hard Chris following. “Beware of wickedness in high places” this place is high.

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  2. Brief December 21, 2011 at 9:26 PM #

    Chris had a cell phone and could have text the PM – all of the MP’s could have sent the PM a text – a letter is ‘formal’ and at this time gives the impression that the PM did not have their ear – a blatant lie.

    We are not fools – if you want an urgent meeting among colleagues you use a Memo – URGENT – Notice of Meeting. Something underlying was/is taking place.

    I do not know all of the pokers and pushers behind this ‘fracas’ but Chris (former General Secretary, current leader of Government Business) blatantly shows that he does not have capacity and basic common sense to keep peace within the Party.

    If you want to be successful by God’s (righteous) standard ‘humble yourself’. Chris refused any position at Party level in the last Annual Conference and now in the Nation with an exclusive interview stating that there was a letter drafted to the PM. Clearly he needs training.

    I will ask the question Chris – did Adriel have cold feet? As AG doesn’t he know the implication of a formal letter with majority support of a signatory who is not Secretary of an Association with the right to call a meeting?

    I don’t believe that the PM is in a quandary because he is quite familiar with this type of behaviour from this group. One or two maybe added or subtracted but it is the same group from where I am.

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  3. Brief December 21, 2011 at 9:27 PM #

    Of course this is my view.

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  4. true to form December 21, 2011 at 9:36 PM #

    PM Stuart is behaving like a kidnappped soul. We cannot hear from him/ He is neithr looking left nor right up or down.. He is behaving like the ransom will not be paid . He reminds me of those old draught players taking a long time to make an obvious move. O come O come Fruendel and ransomeed captive DLP.. You actually met with the men and did not say away from me you workers of iniquity!
    Anyhow this is Christmas and the gift of forgivness must be close to your heart. Think on these things

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  5. BAFBFP December 21, 2011 at 10:15 PM #

    Brief

    I hear your foolish view about what the people want and do not want and who they are likely to go far … now how the hell do you know any of this …? You actually tek a poll .. jackass? Close to sixty percent of the population DID NOT VOTE in the last election. That number will hopefully be closer to seventy percent by the next election, and if the majority of a result is the voice of the people (GOD), that voice to me is saying clearly “F#ck it” and for good reason …!

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  6. Ayub December 21, 2011 at 10:53 PM #

    Check out this story in the Advocate,,, the PM and his sidekick lol

    http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/newsitem.asp?more=local&NewsID=21668

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  7. JB December 21, 2011 at 11:31 PM #

    A man who has lived his life without taking decisions cannot be expected to change at age 60. A man who has never had to deal with an irate wife or partner; or wayward children in a house is sure to be hard pressed to deal with nineteen characters of varying degrees of arrogance, stealth, envy, folly, and all the elements of human nature at less than its best. Think on these things!

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  8. Caswell Franklyn December 22, 2011 at 12:17 AM #

    Ayub

    Why are you surprised? The Prime Minister is not letting Sinckler out of his sight long enough for him (Sinckler) to get up to mischief.

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  9. David December 22, 2011 at 12:59 AM #

    The PM cannot be draconian as some would wish. He has to balance decisions taken in government with how the publc will perceive such actions.

    Why is it the NATION believes that because there is some kind of a challenege or concern with Stuart that they will not go about doing the government business and be civil to each other?

    During the Mottly Arthur rift didn’t Mottley deliver from the same platform as Arthur for example?

    http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/seeing-eye-to-eye/

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  10. CASSIUS. December 22, 2011 at 5:39 AM #

    @ AYUB
    It is clear that you possess a fine sense of humour..That picture paints a thousand words. it depicts a calm, confident Stuart alongside a Sinckler who has been brought by the host to the party in order to create an impression. What was Sinckler’s status there? He does not represent a bordering constituency; there was no need for the minister of finance to perform any function related to his office; the mind boggles. But Stuart seems to be ignoring him and he looks anything but confident..talk about CANDID CAMERA !! Even though the event was sponsored by a man of the cloth I do not think there will be any forgiveness. STUART IS NO FOOL..

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  11. ac December 22, 2011 at 5:59 AM #

    The picture reminds me of those hollwood couples whose marriages are crumbling resort to photo ops as a way of denial. This is another one of Chris Sinclkler galant ways of denial without using the spoken word. Without all due respect to the PM he was being made a fool of again by Chris Sinckler! The word PERCEPTION is smirked all over Chris face,

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  12. ac December 22, 2011 at 6:01 AM #

    in the above comment the word “Without out” should be”With”

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  13. ac December 22, 2011 at 6:10 AM #

    After all the government would continue to function but world wide perception may be different . Shadows of destabilization in any government cause shock waves to its economy and no amount of photo ops can change that.

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  14. CASSIUS. December 22, 2011 at 6:47 AM #

    @ac
    It does not look like any smirk to me ; a smirk is a manifestation of confidence. That look betrays an inner hurt , the hurt of a man who understands that his days are numbered.

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  15. Antz December 22, 2011 at 6:57 AM #

    @ David

    I hear the PM has not instructed that Cabinet should be held today, as is the norm for a Thursday. It is rumoured the PM will be giving some of his PM gifts for Xmas:

    Adriel will get a vacation on the back bench to relax himself for a few months
    Boyce going to going Adriel on the back bench as company
    Sinckler to Foreign Affairs aka Ass Always On An Aeroplane
    Carrington to Attorney General
    Kenny Best to the Speaker of the House, as hard as that is to believe.

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  16. David December 22, 2011 at 7:08 AM #

    @Antz

    If it materializes as you say it is not entirely unexpected – would switch Paul for Best though :-)

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  17. Checkit-Out December 22, 2011 at 7:14 AM #

    Ayub; I think you are right

    JB; I think your few words above get to the very heart of this situation. It will not get better.

    Cassius; That picture indeed paints a thousand words to me but to my foggy lens the words essentially says.

    FS: “This matter is closed, the letter was just a misguided way to get my attention. All is forgiven as far as the public is concerned. I will speak to the public on my magnanimous and Christlike forgiveness in my Christmas message”.

    CS: Please leh 2013 come quick, cause 2012 gine be stressful for me. Everybody ‘gainst me.

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  18. EAGLE-EYED. December 22, 2011 at 7:59 AM #

    After having assessed the issues in this on-going saga, I have formed the view that Sinckler has become the victim of a sinister flattery. I have been searching long and hard to discover wherein lie the brilliance, charisma and wide-scale political appeal that commentators have been trying their hardest to attach to him. THERE IS NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT SINCKLER and if he continues to delude himself that there is because his sponsors say so he will destroy himself. There is still a large number of persons out here who have a real – real understanding of what represents standards of excellence and few of us will commit the heresy of comparing Sinckler with Stuart.

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  19. Checkit-Out December 22, 2011 at 9:11 AM #

    Antz; Whereas it appears that the gifts you mention might be richly deserved, the time has now gone for putting an appropriate wrapping on them. The Iron is now cold, striking it now will not have the desired effect and will indeed be counterproductive. See how the apologists that preach forgiveness seem to be increasing with every passing day.

    No gifts for them this christmas. Business as usual and the cat and mouse game will continue for awhile longer. The effect of that game will probably ensure that FS will not survive as a parliamentarian nor PM beyond the next election but that is of little import since Chris’ tea leaves read similarly.

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  20. Practical Guide December 22, 2011 at 9:13 AM #

    @ Checkit-Out

    I know its Christmas but what you wrote above is wishful thinking. Sinckler cannot survive unscathed, that much is for certain. Stuart’s biggest concern is when is the best and most opportune time to deliver the cou-cou punch.

    Sinckler has sunk below the moral minimum of Stuart and can surely expect a hard lash from the man who has not just been plucked from a monestry.

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  21. Checkit-Out December 22, 2011 at 9:22 AM #

    Eagle-Eyed;

    I beg to differ. There is (was) something special about Chris Sinckler. Nurtured carefully he could have become the outward manifestation of a very good PM. However, he squandered his promise in the events of last week and exposed his achilles heel to be bitten by the asp. CS did not read nor react to the flood in a sensible way, he is now constrained to eke out his future bound in shallows and misery. However, I think DI, who reacted most appropriately with the exposure of the letter, is riding on a star that is probably in its ascendancy.

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  22. lemuel December 22, 2011 at 9:38 AM #

    To Uneducated:
    Happy year to you too, but i shall still treat that compliment as a Trojan Horse and not the condom. I am sure Miller shall love that last piece of this sentence.

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  23. lemuel December 22, 2011 at 9:41 AM #

    To Miller:
    My verbal and prose pugilistic friend. Happy 2012 to you. I wanted to say and family but was not sure if that included a “significant other”. Any way Happy New year to them too.

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  24. Caswell Franklyn December 22, 2011 at 9:59 AM #

    The appearance of The Prime Minister and Sinckler sitting together is obviously contrived to give the appearance that whatever the DLP has joined together no man can put asunder. It my opinion that this uneasy marriage should best be ended in divorce, otherwise it will end in manslaughter.

    Most of you would not know that the late David Thompson and I were friends from our days at Combermere, before he started to wear long pants. We had the type of relationship where I could ask him anything. One day I asked him about the inclusion of certain people in his cabinet. He smiled and said to me in politics you must keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Obviously, freundel has learned that lesson as well.

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  25. Christmas December 22, 2011 at 10:02 AM #

    Christmas | December 22, 2011 at 8:58 AM |

    Sir Roy Trotman’s take on the unfortunate Eager 11 confusion in Bdos Today is the most sensible kudos to the Duke of York for his reasoned thought provoking analysis.

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  26. EAGLE-EYED. December 22, 2011 at 10:07 AM #

    @Checkit-out.
    In our efforts at assessing character, it is sometimes more important to assess the crucial character trait that is lacking, what you have so aptly described as the achilles heel which can make a man most vulnerable. Sinckler lacks humility and as such is vulnerable to flattery. maybe if he were a student of Literature and studied Macbeth, Julius Caesar and the work that is most apposite in discussing this saga, HENRY V, he would have been better prepared to protect himself from the insecere flattery which was being trumpeted in his ears by the likes of Peter Wickham et al.
    Ever time I listen to Freundel Stuart I am impressed by the fact that he draws heavily from the experiences and lessons which history provides ; there is really nothing new under the sun and parallels can always be found in the annals of history from which we may learn. Sinckler will do well to undertand this for his future conduct.

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  27. Julie B December 22, 2011 at 10:16 AM #

    I am not prepared to speculate as I see you people doing.
    I want to offer the PM advice.

    I can see that there is no way out of this for Stuart other than throwing in the Towel.
    Stuart has nothing to lose
    He can work out a deal to become GG because his style is more suited to the job of GG
    Go for it Mr. Stuart
    I advise you !

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  28. Checkit-Out December 22, 2011 at 10:34 AM #

    Eagle-Eyed; Well said. I essentially agree with your analysis of CS’ character. His abilities and promise is a different matter.
    Re. Freundel Stuart, my take is that if he was as impressive as you hint in your piece this incident would not have occurred as the majority of the people who are presumably near to him, the 11 plus MPs, obviously did not see him in that light.

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  29. EAGLE-EYED. December 22, 2011 at 10:44 AM #

    @Checkit-out.
    My dear fellow , he could not have prevented the scheming / plotting. The real test will come in how he deals with it and in that regard the jury must be out still. Let us wait and see what turns out .

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  30. true to form December 22, 2011 at 11:09 AM #

    I think the Dems are confused. Stuart is suffering from a surfeit of advce which is coming to hm. from all sides He is paralysed by it for he does not want to hurt the DLP and he wants to give a punishing lesson to the traitors. Well both is impossible. He can do one without doing the other.. And in the meanwhile time is tight . He is appearing dithering slow and indecisive . A Stuart like quality which some people would like to elevate to a virtue.. The man of the cloth would like to make peace but peace without the successio of war is no peace. And cannot there be peace at any price.
    By the way I read all the time the Stuart is so bright. Just tell me in what? . Is it law ? politics?. Am I missing something here or what? Think in these rhings.

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  31. Checkit-Out December 22, 2011 at 12:28 PM #

    Eagle-Eye; You said “he could not have prevented the scheming / plotting.”

    If FS had those attributes that you mentioned above there would not have been any scheming or plotting or, if there were, the putative scheming / plotting would have been contained within a small faction only and not have risen to the level where a majority of DEM MPs would seek to formally invite him to discuss the leadership pass they now find themselves in. To my mind there is / was significant discomfort in the DLP about FS’ leadership. The path he has chosen to respond will not, in any way, alleviate the concerns the 11 had. Indeed, I think that path is likely to lead to more discomfort in the near future.

    Anyhow, I think the die is now cast. FS will take the best decision he can after allowing the passage of valuable time to constrain that decision to only one sensible choice. Hasn’t he done this before, the most notable being the St John bye-election where the election date was only chosen at the figurative last minute?

    If FS takes no action, a denounement it appears he is drifting slowly towards, it also tells the story that he essentially agrees with the “grouses” of the “plotters” whose only sin would have been to try to meet with him to smoothen out some leadership wrinkles in their progress to winning the next election.

    I essentially agree with “true to form”s analysis above.

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  32. J December 22, 2011 at 1:53 PM #

    There is an old saying that the devil finds work for idle hands to do. We talk about firing these Ministers, not to say I might agree with a few of them being replaced; however in the famous quote of Sophia from the Golden Girls “picture it Sicily (Barbados) 2011. Take the same Ministers that are perceived as the trouble makers/ringleaders and pile the work on them, insist that they perform in their Ministries, insist and tie them to bench markers and performance markers. Make them perform, make them and the PS’s and their staff literally look for practicably/workable ways to improve this country’s employment status, credit rating, health care system, revenue, foreign reserves, youth, elderly, water resources, traffic etc.

    They will be so up to their neck in wuk they will not have time for a coup – real, imagined, trumped up, bloodless or otherwise.

    On anther note – and I just asking; cause I don’t know. What exactly is it that Dennis Kellman is bringing to the table? I have asked this question high and low and all the answer I get is that he supports the PM. Should we look for more than this as a qualifying factor? I’m just asking.

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  33. Porter December 22, 2011 at 2:47 PM #

    BAFBFP | WROTE
    Close to sixty percent of the population DID NOT VOTE in the last election.

    They did not vote because everybody thought that Owen Arthur and the BLP would win. Nobody in their right minds thought that the DLP would win, maybe a stronger opposition but not win. Not even the DLP thought that they would win.
    IT MEANS THAT THE 60% will vote BEES —BLP–

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  34. Prodigal Son December 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM #

    I have deliberately stayed out of this conversation, George has been doing a great job. The Dems gloated when the Bees had their troubles but look how soon they chickens have come home to roost.

    As a Barbadian, this whole episode sickens me to the core. It means that these people who are supposed to be running the affairs of this nation are not doing so and we can see the clear evidence, things are falling apart but they are fighting for power.

    I have read Chris Sinckler’s interview twice and I had seen so many bold faced lies and contradictions, one minute he did not know, another he was not the mastermind, another Ronald Jones who said he did not know, yet Chris said that himself, Jones and Boyce discussed the letter. You cannot believe what he has said. But tell me something, who made John Boyce a power broker in the DLP, a four time loser!!! A man who just got into the House!! Just shows you how the DLP scarping the bottom of the barrel!

    For Freundel to do nothing after what he said last weekend that coup or no coup, heads have to roll. If he just dithers along, he will forever be condemned as the do nothing PM. I hope he is not taking any advice from the pastor with whom they are pictured in today’s press. This is the same pastor who declared that “two PMs died in office but a third one will not die under my watch, David Thompson will be healed”. We all know the outcome of that prediction.

    Did not Owen Arthur say it right, a bunch of wild boys with no governing experience!!!

    Merry Christmas to all on the Underground and we pray God will save Barbados in 2012 from the Dems.

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  35. Hants December 22, 2011 at 4:25 PM #

    Merry Christmas to you Prodigal Son and I hope God will help the DLP to save Barbados from a return of Owen Arthur and the Bees.

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  36. Brief December 22, 2011 at 8:28 PM #

    @BAFBF

    60% did not vote under the perception that the late DT was not ‘fit to be a leader’ based on the BLP propaganda machine which did not assess, evaluate nor conduct a poll on DAvid Thompson himself. DT ran a business which was not carried in the press as being unsuccessful, bankrupt nor corrupt. He lead his team. Nothing whatsoever to do with the country.

    The BLP was not successful in 2008 GE even though they had 14 years of successive victories and had proven their ability in broad daylight to all and sundries.

    I do not need a poll to say ‘if’ I do not need a poll to say that they are many that do not see Chris Sinckler as the best choice at this time to be leader of the Party or PM I say it without apology and others agree.

    I believe the question mark after ‘jackass’ was an error – however – I am humbled that you would even consider to elevate me to your kine, level and breed (without a poll or examination) for which I graciously decline with due respect and admiration of your intelligence. Meaning that you can actually put a sentence together that we read and understand – God is truly good to all.

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  37. massas bo' December 26, 2011 at 8:19 PM #

    MMMMMMMMMMMMMM?? Gone kinda quiet on de subjec.
    Guess dey exercising de jaws on de turkey.
    Gonna be a lot more WIND soon.

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  38. George C. Brathwaite December 28, 2011 at 12:50 PM #

    I understand that the public will have some relief come Friday in an address to Barbados by the Prime Minister. May God help us all as we go through what will be a torrid and final period in the life of this DLP administration. They promised so much, and could have delivered so much more, but obviously selfishness and blind ambitions pre-empted what is to come in terms of the final death throes of the paltry DEMS.

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  39. millertheanunnaki December 28, 2011 at 1:26 PM #

    @ George C. Brathwaite | December 28, 2011 at 12:50 PM |

    GCB, are you going along with the rumour of a pending “cabinet reshuffle” as a new year’s gift from the PM? It is known that a new permanent GG will be announced. But a date for new elections for 20 Jan 2012 with the 21st a birthday of special importance to the nation would be somewhat out of the decision-making character of the man at the helm.

    One wonders what CCC would say about this rumour? If it is true, one can expect the defender of the damned lying party and OSA’s arch enemy not to slug it out on BU but crawl right back under the shaky party house building as a result rumblings of earthquake proportions on your namesake the street.

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  40. David December 28, 2011 at 2:13 PM #

    @George

    Will the PM dispel the rumour making the rounds that Gollop will be made AG and Richard Sealy his Deputy?

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  41. George C. Brathwaite December 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM #

    @David

    I know not what would be said, but I do know of rumours. I am not impressed by the veracity of the rumours. I think the PM will play a politics that shows his immense power but he is more likely to be conservative than radical.
    If it is true to say that he is a student of political history and the classics, then he may choose to only mortally wound one or two. Who may these two be? I think it is better to have come forward and said ‘no’ and ‘forever’ than to sit in the trenches of the backbench and say, ‘not me’, let me put the man who once said, ‘no gangs in Barbados’ upon you. Whether the PM can effectively wound the Queen given the proximity to both the King and Kingmaker, time will tell, but the Jack may yet have a trick up the sleeve since the plot has only been derailed and not destroyed. Always remember that the pollster, the prankster, and the political mercenary are still out there. The old people often say, that ‘pay back is a bitch’. A shuffle or reshuffle still leaves the Joker and the Queen in the pack.

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  42. millertheanunnaki December 28, 2011 at 4:22 PM #

    George C. Brathwaite | December 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM |
    ‘A shuffle or reshuffle still leaves the Joker and the Queen in the pack.”

    The not so shallow Hal taking a gallop to the post of AG is not to be dismissed lightly. Problem here that your clico friend “meaner than a junkyard rat le roi” will remain an ‘untouchable’.
    But offering the queen of the east a ministerial pick with a high public exposure portfolio (family and sport) would be the bitchiest political ‘sleight of hand-out’ Machiavelli would recommend. But the joker might be the biggest sycophant behind the scenes begging for a pick to keep his material lifestyle at a certain level of comfort.

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  43. true to form December 28, 2011 at 6:25 PM #

    What reshuffle?The PM will find that it is almost impossible to make changes without damaging himself mortally, He cannot punish any of the 11 without dire and significant consequences to the body politic. They wil;l gang up against him. The fate of the 11 will be determined by the survival factor of the DLP. If you try to make any of the11 pay any price they will not condone the behaviour of the PM and they will exact the maximum revenge against a man who has always been weak politically. He cannot bring in anywone who is not goping to face the polls. If he did that , it would be madness and unthinkable. I do not expect any reshuffle , because if there is any attempt to reshuffle the consequences will be dire for the PM. He cannot appear to hurt the chances of the DLP. Stuart has been backed into a corner and he is not a fighter , I wish him well. Thnk on these things

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  44. Checkit-Out December 28, 2011 at 6:33 PM #

    I agree with “true to form’s” analysis above. The major point is; “Stuart has been backed into a corner and he is not a fighter”

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  45. millertheanunnaki December 28, 2011 at 6:42 PM #

    @ true to form | December 28, 2011 at 6:25 PM |
    Your analysis paints a rather mediocre and “poor-rakey” picture of the political landscape and leadership profile of the country as if somebody has worked “obeah” on the place.
    Can you imagine what’s in store for little Bim at a time when leadership ought to be the paramount ingredient in any recipe for getting us out of this economic and social morass and ought to be the guiding light to a better tomorrow?

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  46. Caswell Franklyn December 28, 2011 at 6:46 PM #

    Once I saw a rat being cornered by a dog, with no avenue for escape the rat attacked, biting the dog on its nose in the process. The dog fled.

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  47. ac December 28, 2011 at 7:13 PM #

    now you really made me laugh caswell! for that you get 4 stars.

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  48. David December 28, 2011 at 7:21 PM #

    Some might say a PM who is financially well off with a pension to come as gravy is very well placed to state his position.

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  49. true to form December 28, 2011 at 8:19 PM #

    The future of the DLP is of a greater and a more paramount importance than any apparent strength or lack thereof of the PM . Golding left after he said he was not leaving. There is a man called Seaga in Jamacian Politics who made the difference in Golding’s decision. Do we have a man who is of that influence who could make a difference in Stuart’s decision.? Is there a man who was in a similar position who could advise him on his next step? One thing that Stuart does not want to do is give the BLP the government on a platter. If they are going to win let them fight for it . Stuart will not aid them in any complicity. He will not hand them any victory and the people will not have the chance to accuse him like they accuse Sandy of giving away the government. Think on these things

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  50. Appollo 13 December 28, 2011 at 8:32 PM #

    true to form,

    I tend to agree with you but in light of the PM’s own words…………….”if there was indeed an attempt to derail my government, it clearly had not worked and certain consequences will have to follow. If one understands history at all, if a coup is attempted and it succeeds, the person against whom the coup was aimed usually pays for it with his neck. If the coup fails, the plotters and those who were trying to execute it pay for it with their necks”.

    If he was not serious, he would hardly have made that statement as he did not have to say anything. But who knows with this PM, I guess we have to wait for him to speak. Do you know that part of the plot was to get him to step aside and accept the post of GG? A Dem friend of mine told me that the PM is more suited to be a GG than a PM. WOW!!!!

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  51. true to form December 28, 2011 at 10:00 PM #

    I@ Appoll 13
    I would not have such juiy information. Stuart for GG Not old enough not distinguished enough , not white enough .not bright enough, not DLP enough. not popular. He would not conspire or plot with any one to give the BLP a seat.but then again all things are possible Think on these things

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  52. David December 29, 2011 at 12:03 AM #

    We put a lot of pressure on the judiciary and the political system in Barbados to step up to the plate.

    We also do the same to the media.

    Here is a story in the Barbados Today which caught the eye:

    http://news.barbadostoday.bb/barticlenew.php?ptitle=Upturn&article=13063&pdate=2011-08-31

    Bear in mind CLICO Mortgage Company was bought over by the BPWCC and it was a profit making entity under CLICO management.

    Spin!

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  53. balance December 29, 2011 at 2:14 AM #

    christmas, i see nothing thought provoking about sir roy’s analysis when having advised mr stuart to do nothing if he were in mr stuart’s shoes did admit that when faced with similar discontent in the union he offered the malcontents the door or else.

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  54. balance December 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM #

    up to now J the ministers have not demonstrated they are capable of handling the little work they have to do; you must be out of your mind suggesting that you place more of the affairs of state in ther ncompetent hands.God bless the public service systemof the past 300 years,

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  55. balance December 29, 2011 at 2:47 AM #

    david, a rumour is a rumour. why should it be incumbent on the PM to dispel or respond to a rumour. if the rumour tutrns out to be a fact then perhaps he might be cornered into responding but otherwise, there is no reason. commentators put all kinds of unfounded stories on this forumwhich when challenged are unable to or choose not to defend. do these fables merit a response from the persons to whom they are directed?

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  56. David December 29, 2011 at 6:51 AM #

    @balance

    Nature they say abhors a vacuum.

    A rumour in Barbados left unchecked in this particular scenario can have serious political implications.

    You need to understand the culture to appreciate it.

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  57. Checkit-Out December 29, 2011 at 7:05 AM #

    Caswell;
    You said “Once I saw a rat being cornered by a dog, with no avenue for escape the rat attacked, biting the dog on its nose in the process. The dog fled.”

    But Rats are typically aggressive and acculturated to react that way in that situation. Is FS?

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  58. Appollo 13 December 29, 2011 at 6:39 PM #

    David,
    “Bear in mind CLICO Mortgage Company was bought over by the BPWCC and it was a profit making entity under CLICO management.
    Spin!”

    I read this and had to smile. Hope that they are repaying the money the late king gave them out of our NIS funds!!!

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  59. The Scout December 29, 2011 at 10:56 PM #

    If the St.Lucian general elections had the Eager11 writing FS, the Jamaican elections will have the entire team demanding answers or else. It also seems a change to a youger leader is not the answer either. The youth that the DLP is looking to get to vote, will play their football but how many will go to the polls unless they are given money and the
    dlp cash cow is dead. It seems they don’t even know where to turn to now.

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  60. Appollo 13 December 30, 2011 at 7:55 AM #

    Scout,

    Agreed. You have never spoken truer words! This was my same thought last night as I listened to the results. So Peter Wickham’s theory has been proven wrong.

    I now understand that there were 13 plotters, the latest name is George Hutson. The Dems are in panic mode!!!!

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  61. Jan Jan September 3, 2013 at 6:33 PM #

    PM still in a quandary and Still playing the fool
    Still not loving the people

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  62. Jan Jan June 24, 2014 at 4:28 PM #

    Failure as a PM -holding onto power for the sake of holding onto power–a complete waste of time

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  63. Dompey June 24, 2014 at 4:35 PM #

    Appollo

    Don’t worry about PM. He has the people on his side and the failed march just validates this unequivocally.

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  64. Dompey June 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM #

    Say what wunna like bout the PM, he is laughing his belly full at wunna now. Wunna organized a March again he that bearly pull a good two- hundred of wunna supporters. Wunna en shame? lol

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  65. Jerry Beckles June 24, 2014 at 5:19 PM #

    Perhaps you are right, Alby. I remember when I was trying to write La Nausee on the left bank that an old bit of wisdom always came back to me,k from the elders in my village: “time longer than the monkey pestle, no matter how much he climb, and twine in the mortar”.

    I never really understood it, but I hope you take comfort in the wisdom of the elders, as I do.

    PS. Sorry about being such a dick supporting Mao.

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  66. Dompey June 24, 2014 at 5:23 PM #

    Jean Paul Sartre, the existentialist philosopher who claimes that,” Personal freedom is making choices independent of any influencing factors beyond our control.” The typical Devil worker like Bush Tea and his sparing partner PG.

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  67. Jan Jan July 6, 2014 at 10:30 AM #

    STUART says to give Municipal Solid Waste Tax (MSWT)a chance.
    Stuart called on the electorate in 2013 to give he and his gang another chance so that he /they could finish what they started. We know the result of that.
    Give the MSWT a chance ?
    To do WHAT FREUNDEL STUART, TO DO WHAT >????

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  68. Jan Jan July 14, 2014 at 5:40 PM #

    THIS PRIME MINSITER WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS ————————————

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  69. Jan Jan August 21, 2014 at 7:53 AM #

    No vision, slow to act ; slow to talk. slow to think; slowing down Barbados . destroying all we come to expect . UWI +students destroyed; NCC workers destroyed; Public Service -Transport Board; Bus Service; QEH-medical care ; Barbados economy ; Police Force; Trust and confidence;–Destroyed !!!

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  70. Jan Jan August 25, 2014 at 4:21 PM #

    Still asleep but every now and again gets up to pee and or sleep walk and spouts a lot of piss and gibberish on the airwaves or maybe at an annual conference, Meanwhile everything in Barbados is down to the ground. Barbados has been reduced to Junk Bond status under his watch. Garbage piling up on the streets -no trucks. Passengers piling up in the Bus Terminus -no Bus -es
    Workers piling up on the corners- no work; QEH not any better; Vat collection of outstanding monies -no better. Courts Barbados owes vat how much again ?
    Revd Morris has an opinion on this Government. Revd Morris , please lets hear your opinion on this Prime Minister

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  71. Ping Pong August 25, 2014 at 5:44 PM #

    What are the “leaders” waiting for? Will they only shake their lazy asses up and do the work they are paid to do when the masses start to riot?!! Bajans are tolerant and not hot headed but even the most docile will react when their backs are to the wall and there is no where to turn.

    Isn’t it ironic that at the same time that the solid waste tax has been implemented and people have paid their share that the sanitation service has not been picking up the garbage due to a lack of trucks (many of which are less than 2 years old)!

    Imagine Haynesly Benn advocating that some gerrymandering be done in St Peter so that the DLP could win that seat! He cannot tell Barbadians what he is doing to bring investment from Canada, to increase opportunities for Barbadian products, increase tourist arrivals or expand educational and training opportunities in Canada. His priority is winning a seat NOT by showing that his party has a vision and a capacity for work for the improvement of this country BUT by gerrymandering.

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  72. Jason Price August 25, 2014 at 6:26 PM #

    This has to be against the Law. Benn should get Ben-up with a CHARGE OF SEDITION

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  73. Jan Jan August 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM #

    FROM MARCHFIELD TO ILLARO COURT: THE DESTRUCTION OF BARBADOS
    UWI Students drop dramatically, Back to the Cane-fields.Back to Slavery, wait we have no canes—well marijuana fields then

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