The Letter: A Question Of Honour And Integrity

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The Letter

It is “alleged” that all eleven members had not seen the draft copy and it is speculation to conclude that the members concerned would have signed the final copy.  Therefore, it is not the situation as was reported in the Nation in their report of Sunday December 11, 2011 which stated:

“ELEVEN GOVERNMENT MEMBERS of parliament (MPs)- including seven cabinet ministers – yesterday affixed their signatures to a formal letter and immediately dispatched it to Prime Minister Freundel Stuart requesting an “urgent” audience.”

One could “speculate” that they would have signed because there was a conversation but that is just “speculation” the FACT is they did not “AFFIX” a signature as reported.

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118 Comments on “The Letter: A Question Of Honour And Integrity”

  1. George C. Brathwaite December 19, 2011 at 10:57 AM #

    @BAFBFP

    Again you show your naked ass that is full of SH and envy. Is every lawyer to speak on every issue because you engage your fingers and mouth in the same way that pigs frolic in their filth. If you are so brilliant, the expert on everyone in this world, why are you not running every agency, institution, and the Government of Barbados? Why are you forever so painfully stuck in the filth that you so despise Mr. Brains?

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  2. BAFBFP December 19, 2011 at 11:07 AM #

    Hey Mr. PhD-wanna-be … be careful who you pick your fight wid, I lookin’ fuh sport , I lokkin’ fah somebody who know how to share some lix ’bout hey, and dah person ain’ you ..(nor dah Trade Unionist neither fah dat matter)!

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  3. George C. Brathwaite December 19, 2011 at 11:11 AM #

    @BAFBFP

    There was a time in my life when I would have requested kindly and in the most colourful language to go and f**e yourself. I have moved on and put such behaviours behind me, so today I ask that God will have mercy upon you and give you the blessing of love. May you have a wonderful Christmas.

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  4. BAFBFP December 19, 2011 at 11:22 AM #

    Oh go f*ck yourself, or as the English would say “Up yours” … the fact that such a thought would come into your head in the first place would suggest that your have not in fact moved on. I ain’ want nah mercy and I ain’ wan’ nah blessings, the thought the Gregory Nicholls or Edmund Hinkson could actually win a seat in Parliament is sufficient to guaranty me a horrible time this Christmas. You can be wishing me all these good things and want a future for me with these people in it yah hypocrite …! :)

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  5. George C. Brathwaite December 19, 2011 at 11:26 AM #

    @ BAFBFP

    Thanks. Now get behind me Satan alias BAFBFP!

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  6. BAFBFP December 19, 2011 at 11:32 AM #

    Listen be careful wid dat kind of a comment hear. Caswell convince that I still in the closet … and he speak as though he has experience in these matters… suppose he right. You still want me to get behind you this Christmas? It is after all a time of giving and receiving …!

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  7. true to form December 19, 2011 at 6:25 PM #

    Everybody hates Chris but Chris shows that to love himself is the greatest love of all..Chris shows a political sagacity which will stay the PM’s hand and make him wonder or consider if he has any moves. If he believes Chris and the Pm believes that they are all involved and he futher believes some one who was there can say to all you were there any atempt to change one for the other would be replacing Judfas with Judas and maybe with who has no balls. That would be tragic.So the interview has backed Stuart in a corner. He cannot go to his backbench , There is none. He cannot reduce his cabinet without fierce criticism.and he can do nothing. He is in a Pandora’s box. He cannot be seen to ‘unfair’ one for the next, there is no ringleader. They are all ringleaders not that all would have got the same results but they were in it for same purpose or purposes. Can they say touch one touch all? Or can they believe they will go back to the bloodletteing and the back stabbing which characterised the DLP before?. I would say that we are going nowhere fast. Think on these things.

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  8. BAFBFP December 19, 2011 at 7:19 PM #

    Think on these things what … Chris Sinkler come from the Garrison Secondary, he ain’ got nah business in Parliament …!

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  9. lemuel December 19, 2011 at 8:25 PM #

    When they were making a decision on the PM when David died, the consensus among the “old school ties” was that they were not supporting a garrison school boy. It seems that Sinker thought that he was adopted by that group for it seems as though they single handedly destroyed him politically.

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  10. BAFBFP December 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM #

    lems

    Ah boy, that’s the spirit …

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  11. Sargeant December 20, 2011 at 12:41 AM #

    @GCB

    Do not be stupid or naive. It is not what Stuart wants once elections are called. His days of being Prime Minister are numbered.
    ******************
    I asked you the following in another thread “Are you running for something?” It appears that way or you are auditioning for a pick when/if your BLP forms the Govt.

    As to your comment you can mark me as stupid or naïve or perhaps both but I don’t know if the majority of Dems want Stuart or not just as I don’t know if the majority of BLPites want Arthur or Mia but Stuart is still the PM and leader of the Party and has the “bully pulpit”. If he wants another kick at the can who is going to stop him? The DLP MPs realize that the letter was similar to a Tanto with which they almost committed political seppuku, they will not be going down that road again.

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  12. Samuel Morrison December 20, 2011 at 3:36 AM #

    Brief I agree with your assessment.

    “Estwick, Jones and Thompson did not agree to any letter. The letter came afterward – upfront it was only discussion. It is true they did not even know of a letter. Next thing it was in Nation a letter sent to PM. Hey!!!

    It am still awaiting the Nation to print the signatures that were affixed – Can she do that – confirming they knew of the letter? Chris said all did not know of the letter.

    I would be disappointed in right thinking Bajans who would deem PM Ag to turn his back on the PM in such a small country as Barbados – Jones would never have any respect in Barbados again for as long as he lives. Also, does Jones have such a heart to deceive Stuart who is a man of sound integrity and uprightness?”

    The PM seems to have much confidence in Ronald Jones loyalty and trustworthiness as he has acted as MP on the occasions that stuart was out on Business. I read in the Advocate Newspaper that Jones stated in a press statement after Tuesday last story that he never authorised anyone to put his name on a letter neither did he affix his signature to any such letter. I am aware that they would be much speculation as to why his name was included. I would want bloggers to consider a few questions.

    1. Did Jones support Stuart in October last year to be Prime Minister?
    2. Did Sinckler only garner a few votes in his quest to be PM?
    3. Would Jones have changed his views in the year under review?
    4. Can anyone see Jones supporting Sinckler
    5. How about the MP’s from St. Philip don’t they stick together?

    All the MP’s names from St. Philip were mentioned. That seems strange as they usually create a clan mentality. Touch one touch all. Something seems strange. Was there a more sinister plot. Was part of the plot to destroy the credibility of the mentioned 11 or some of the eleven? How many of that group supported Stuart and continues to do so. If you remove Stuart support are you not able to control him then. Wasn’t Ronald Jones not also a target of this activity. We need to think more on these matters.

    George Brathwaite and Causewell Franklyn are spinning their wheels as usual. Pay no attention to them. I await Brathwaite paid for by Government PHD to be completed. Maybe that will take another couple of years when the University he attends gets tired of him.

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  13. George C. Brathwaite December 20, 2011 at 7:34 AM #

    @Samuel Morrison

    Not only do you not know of what you speak, but your waiting seems to be in vain. I only hope that you could do a little more to encourage other people. Do not worry about me, else the envy will eat you out. Good investment by the Government of Barbados, don’t you think? Now go feed at your trough!

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  14. George C. Brathwaite December 20, 2011 at 7:39 AM #

    @Sargeant

    Stuart can lead the party into the next election. It does not mean he will become the Prime Minister according to our laws.

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  15. David December 20, 2011 at 7:46 AM #

    @George

    Although your last comment is factual it seems irrelevant if Stuart were to lead his party to victory given current realities.

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  16. ac December 20, 2011 at 7:46 AM #

    Davis “Good Leadsership is why we are at this stale mate.and it is up to PM to demonstate to those in the Party who might have thought otherwise of him.Good ahead Stuart “strike while the iron is hot”

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  17. David December 20, 2011 at 4:39 PM #

    What resonates after reading the Sinckler interview is his lack of outrage at the NATION for going to print with a letter without signatories, saying the letter was sent to PM Stuart. Shouldn’t he have been a little upset in his use of language?

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  18. ac December 20, 2011 at 6:36 PM #

    Never once in the interview did he show any contempt towards the NATION. it is as if he was there to defend himself come hell or high water. He should be ashamed of himself for doing the interview in the first place. Mr Stuart must have lost total respect for that man. i don’t know how he is going to survive in an hostile environment one which he created and which he was very much a part of . Chris Sinckler is truly a work of “ART” Unbelievable!

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  19. David December 21, 2011 at 1:51 AM #

    Editor in Chief’s have been known to reign if not apologize.

    Eva Hoeke Quits as Editor-in-Chief of Jackie

    Following a recent publication in Jackie magazine, issue 49, a worldwide outcry arose over an article on page 45 entitled “De Niggabitch”, which refers to Rihanna and her style of dress. This word is used in America as slang.

    http://parlourmagazine.com/2011/12/jackie-mag-editor-eva-hoeke-quits-following-rihanna-niggabitch-debacle/

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  20. Checkit-Out December 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM #

    David;

    Really! Apples and Oranges!

    Would an apology AT THIS STAGE help Kaymar and the Nation if the 4 or 5 threateners bring court cases with potential millions in damages against the Nation? Wouldn’t it be accepting some sort of liability to apologize now? Wordsong has an agenda. I don’t think you have one.

    Again, Why would the big Nation Shareholders, through their Board of Directors, not have reined in Kaymar when she was apparently setting them up to pay huge damages which would almost certainly kill the Nation? The only reason could be that she held the trump cards in bullet proof undeniable facts. Sinckler’s unbelievable interview that defied all logic suggests that in spades.

    Sinckler’s interview tells those who can read between the lines that the Nation had the provable hard goods on the 11 and was, unfortunately, playing cat and mouse with them, all with the prior knowledge of the BoD.

    Those MPs can’t win no court case. I suspect that this is a very convoluted case with several wheels within wheels. Nothing is as it appears on the surface. I suspect there were 2 letters and there were at least 2 and possibly 3 leakers. I suspect the original draft with names was leaked to FS soon after it was drafted. CS is, I suspect, also not being entirely honest in his portrayal of the events in the Nation interview.

    What is now of the utmost imprtance is what FS will do and when he will do it. If he forbade Cabinet to meet last week as is reported here on BU and if he indeed held an extraordinary Cabinet meeting yesterday at ILARO COURT and if some Cabinet members appeared very uneasy after that Cabinet Meeting, all coming out of BU posts only, that should be telling us something of where FS is heading. He is playing his own Cat and Mouse game. (perhaps following up on tangential involvment in the Nation’s cat and mouse game with the 11 last week)

    The next few hours should have major developments. Not days, not weeks but hours. If it lasts into hours, next year will be very choppy, politically, for the MPs as well as for all of us in Barbados.

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  21. WordSong December 21, 2011 at 10:38 AM #

    Of course I have an agenda. The agenda is this: respect the tenets of the Fourth Estate. Did The Nation Newspaper lie or not lie. This story could have been running without the current discussion about the lapse in ethical standards if Ms Jordan had seen it fit to wait. For that she and the Nation owe the public an apology. @Check it Out : Do you not see that the story would have been far stronger without the manipulation, that the Nation would not have to seek to redeem itself. And, please speak for yourself. The agendas here are many. At least mine is non political. I merely want the Nation to acknowledge that it should not have come to the public with an untruth. That is not done in journalism, not if you respect the public, not if you respect yourself. BTW, I am speaking for many people including some inside the Nation newsroom. What can the Editor in Chief now say to her junior staff ?

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  22. George C. Brathwaite December 21, 2011 at 10:40 AM #

    @Check-it-out

    You are intelligent, discerning, and almost completely accurate. I say no more. You have spoken and persons should attempt to understand what you have said. Well written!

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  23. George C. Brathwaite December 21, 2011 at 10:42 AM #

    @Wordsong

    When anyone claims non-political I know that I am hearing wrong. The only non-political persons are in the grave, the sea, or ashes. To say non-political is to pat me on the back and say we are friends; empty rhetoric.

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  24. George C. Brathwaite December 21, 2011 at 10:44 AM #

    @David

    There is more than meets the eye. The nation will do no such thing as to apologise and the MPs will hardly go to court while they still form the government or are interested in recapturing the government. They have been emasculated and left the Queen to replace the Jack.

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  25. George C. Brathwaite December 21, 2011 at 10:47 AM #

    @David and BU

    All we need now is for the Prime Minister to expose the Joker. He has the information and details; and I am confident he will act in due course.

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  26. WordSong December 21, 2011 at 11:01 AM #

    Ok George C, I concede, everything can be deemed political and certainly my thoughts carry their political weight. I am just arguing more in favour of respect of the code of ethics in journalism. Anything else is mere coincidence or accident. Do I have my own views about the various actors and would be actors in the imbroglio – yes. But that’s not my main interest. Its that Barbados journalism is worse off for what took place last week, not better.

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  27. BAFBFP December 21, 2011 at 11:09 AM #

    Nodymoes,

    I ain’ comin’ after you again, but I will say to you that there IS a thing called “non-political”, particularly when members who form the leadership of the party compulsively play to the audience (the lowest common denominator) while serving the interest of big business in the background …

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  28. BAFBFP December 21, 2011 at 11:12 AM #

    Nody you drop dah batton, let de Kolij boys win de race and up to now you ain’ pick it back up yet …

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  29. lemuel December 21, 2011 at 11:19 AM #

    Why is Kaymar Jordan being asked to apologize when no effort is being mounted by Word Song or his other pseudo plotters to ask the dastardly eleven to apologize to the people of Barbados for bring the Nation of Barbados’ good name into disrepute. Word Song, you and your crowd who want the PM gone have to wait until the outcome of the next elections. Stuart needs to get rid of a lot of political bar flies from around him.

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  30. George C. Brathwaite December 21, 2011 at 11:32 AM #

    @ BAFBFP

    Thanks for the reminder. Be at peace. I respect your views even if I do not agree. No disrespect intended. Forgiveness not necessary, maybe I shall run a new race with a more valued baton and things would go better than they did back then. All in the name of progress.

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  31. millertheanunnaki December 21, 2011 at 11:37 AM #

    @ lemuel | December 21, 2011 at 11:19 AM |
    “Stuart needs to get rid of a lot of political bar flies from around him.”

    Bar flies only stay around when there is sweetness from the rum and corned beef. FS needs to vomit up all the bad apples from the DT tree that he has been putting up with for the last 13 months. Rearrange his cabinet to a smaller size and show Bajans that sacrifices begin at the top.

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  32. Checkit-Out December 21, 2011 at 12:38 PM #

    David; By simple deduction. FS has no option but to call an election soon.

    If Antz’s post about him forbidding a Cabinet meeting in his absence is true, it is clear that he can trust no one, not even the one who acts for him in his now frequent absences. That suggests that there are, as hinted earlier in several posts, a large majority of DLP MP’s who are not particularly enamoured of him as PM. Most other PM’s would either have stayed put or allow the Cabinet meeting to go on while ensuring that their trusted people would report names and their contributions to relevant discussions at that meeting for later action and, also to scuttle any overt attempt at the cabinet meeting to dislodge him. But FS didn’t do this. He can’t trust anyone, if the report is true.

    FS can’t do any piecemeal changes to his cabinet and expect to survive till 2013. The committed forces against him are too numerous and he doesn’t know for certain, besides one or two MP’s, who is for him.

    In such a situation he can only call elections very soon, perhaps politically injuring a few beforehand by demoting them and labelling them as traitors.

    Any piecemeal rearguard action now is likely to be futile in so far as the ultimate objective might be to soldier on to 2013 when the economy might be arguably better.

    Oh that FS had met with the 11 and taken by far the best route out of this debacle for the DLP and perhaps the Country by resigning gracefully on the grounds of ill health with no one in the general public being aware of the machinations behind the scenes.

    of course, the BLP would wish fervently for him to stay on but the playing field has now been levelled and whoever leads the DLP into the next elections will have a tough row to hoe. All forecasts on the state of the economy say so.

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  33. David December 21, 2011 at 12:48 PM #

    @checkit-out

    As always you are out front in providing analysis :- )

    Cabinet meetings require minutes be generated.
    A request to reschedule the meeting could simply mean the PM wanted to control the narrative at the meeting in light of what has passed in the last two weeks. Especially with a Xmas greeting to deliver.

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  34. Yardbroom December 21, 2011 at 3:15 PM #

    Firstly I have no agenda political financial or otherwise, neither do I owe favours or others owe me any.

    Neither do I have any inside information and I do not wish to give that impression.

    I believe that the Nation obviously has cards yet to be played, my reasoning being that an organization of that size in Barbados has access to legal advice and there would not be cavalier in adopting a position which was unsustainable over time with their readers.

    It is individuals who must be concerned because they know what they did and at the moment of doing they never expected their actions to see the light of day….that has now been blow away.

    It is possible Prime Minister Stuart had an idea of what was a-foot from inside the camp. He reasoned that what was decided when he was away should not have the “authority” of a cabinet meeting.

    It was best in his absence for them to meet where they wanted, but not in cabinet. A wise move as it proved they can thus be seen as “plotters” without authority therefore little credence….and therefore the backing away we have seen.

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  35. WordSong December 21, 2011 at 3:25 PM #

    @ Lemuel

    There is nothing I said that suggests I am of the opinion that the PM should be removed. I rather respect the PM far more than I respect the 11, whose cravings for high office and power have gotten the better of them. I will say no more on that score. Furthermore – why do many assume that this forum is for men only?

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  36. Random Thoughts December 21, 2011 at 11:07 PM #

    Dear David:

    Here is another story about honour and integrity (or lack of the same)

    Yale Coach Resigns After Rhodes Scholarship Claim

    http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/yale-football-coach-resigns/?hp

    Yale’s senior quarterback, Patrick Witt, the most productive passer in the program’s history, was wrestling with a decision that generated national attention and debate. Should he play in the Harvard-Yale game one more, final time, or should he attend an interview in Atlanta as a finalist for a Rhodes scholarship? Because of the schedule of the events, he could not do both.

    The quarterback’s dilemma had an unlikely twist. His coach, Tom Williams, said he had faced almost identical circumstances in 1992 when he was a linebacker at Stanford. Williams said he had chosen to pursue a career in professional football at the expense of a possible Rhodes scholarship — and never regretted the decision. Witt leaned on his coach for advice, and eventually decided to play in the game. Yale was crushed, 45-7.

    As it turned out, the shellacking of the Bulldogs by their storied rival in the Yale Bowl on Nov. 19 was far from the worst of it. The appealing back story — Williams’s providing counsel to his talented quarterback based on his own experience — turned out to be founded on a LIE.

    The coach had never been in Witt’s position. He had never been a Rhodes scholar candidate or applicant, let alone a finalist, as he had let the world believe. He had told Yale he was a candidate with an entry on his résumé. His biography on the Yale Web site said the same thing.

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  37. smooth chocolate December 22, 2011 at 10:08 AM #

    @David | December 20, 2011 at 4:39 PM |
    “What resonates after reading the Sinckler interview is his lack of outrage at the NATION for going to print with a letter without signatories”

    i agree but while reading the interview, i got the deep impression that it was staged and that it was CHRIS SINCKLER himself who gave the draft to Keymar. think about if, if something is confidential in government, it remains confidential, absolutely confidential. ‘Confidential documents’ are only leaked when they are intended to be leaked or when it is supposed to be confidential in name only. anytime ‘confidential’ matter gets to the press etc, it’s because it was meant to be that way. what happened here is that the players involved had underestimated the back-lashed. but i have no doubt whatsoever that Chris himself gave that letter to keymar. his Ex. Secretary did not type it, her computer may have a password but u can’t take chances. his constituency secretary probably typed it, she walks with her laptop. himself acknowledged that only about 3 saw it. which means that any one of those 3 including him could have copied it. since keymar was absolutely sure of signatures, it suggests that he convince her that they would be forth coming and she ran with it because, it came straight from the horses mouth. i feel sorry for the PM but as i see it anyway now, the BLP will win next elections. i am hoping somehow that a third party made up of some of u members here on BU and those of SURVIVING HARSH ECONOMIC TIMES-c Malcolm grant’s wall on FB, would think seriously of changing our situation.
    South Africa under white rule never expected to see a political prisoner and a black one too, become president of that country but the Sharpeville incident, the killing of Steven Biko, the uprisng of the very young black children in Soweto caused the black parents to finally decide enough was enough – today we have a new South African. Could all that we Bajans, experienced with the DLP and the BLP not cause us too not only cry for change but demand it?

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    To Word Song:
    To the contrary we have men here, women here, she she men here and men women here. I normally ascribe a gender based on the tenor of one’s writing and yours seemed very masculine at that time. Maybe you need to say Word Song female so that most of us stuck up men here do not get it wrong.

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