Submitted by Ellis Chase

University of the West indies, Cave Hill

There has been something of a debate on the funding of higher education in Barbados recently. As is typical, and strange for a well educated country, clear facts and hard information have largely been absent, and persons seem to be taking political and ideological positions. The Nation newspaper recently ran an article about UWI finances after a public pronouncement by the Finance and Economic Affairs Minister. The article prompted me to seek out some hard information on UWI finances, and I was shocked at how hard it was to get some. Finally, after some wheeling and dealing I got my hands on the UWI, Cave Hill audited financials for the period 1999 to 2009.

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188 Comments on “THE UWI Financing DEBATE”

  1. Piece Uh De Rock, Yeah Right!! August 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM #


    I am amazed!!

    In your comment of ac | August 18, 2013 at 6:57 PM | your espouse and anti-preterist, historicist, presentist concepts, one which borders on idealist, yet, when you speak of Fumble’s ineptitude you err on the side of irrational thought.

    There must be two people who are commenting under that moniker, in the same house!!

    It is impossible for you to be one person!!


  2. ac August 19, 2013 at 12:57 PM #

    No pdryr ! there maybe two ac.s living inside however both woukld agree that the TRUTH supersedes all of man.s greatest and best intentions. Now ac was seeking truth from the bible thumping scholars. However i am conscience of the fact that those who claim to have a reservoiur of truthfulness falls and failsmiserably when applying it to themselves. Now how can one promote an ideaolgy based on unfounded scritural teaching and present it as factual.


  3. Alvin Cummins August 19, 2013 at 9:45 PM #

    @Georgie Porgie, ac, Hants and the other disciples, I invite all of you to stand by for the release of the latest book to come out YESHUA A.K.A. Jesus the Nazaarene for somereally interesting reading on things Christian, and which challenges the concept of a second coming. What would be your reddcourse if there was no resurrection? Stand by, coming in September.
    CAAn anybody get to Heaven without dying? For months before the election there were cries for Government austrity. Tuition fees are a large part of government expenditure.You go figure.


  4. Bush Tea August 19, 2013 at 10:08 PM #

    As man Alvin
    …get David to put up a chapter of dat book as a post….
    Bushie is game for a good joke…. :)


  5. Georgie Porgie August 19, 2013 at 10:25 PM #

    CAAn anybody get to Heaven without dying?


    RE What would be your reddcourse if there was no resurrection?



  6. ac August 19, 2013 at 11:04 PM #

    ha! Ha! now answer the dam question GPcan anyone get to heaven without dying, btw where is heaven.. that too u should answer SOON as a disciple of Christ,

    this for you GP did Elijah and Enoch die?


  7. BAFBFP August 19, 2013 at 11:12 PM #

    ac riding GP this ought to be good …. HA HAHA


  8. ac August 19, 2013 at 11:14 PM #

    Where Is Enoch?
    ENOCH was “translated.” Where did he go? Was he immediately taken to heaven? NO! Because Jesus Himself said: “No man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man” (John 3:13). Here are Jesus’ own words that no man, except Himself, had ascended into heaven!

    And how did He know? Why, He came from there!
    Then where is Enoch? Let’s see what the Bible says.
    What Really Happened at Enoch’s Translation!
    Remember, Moses didn’t write that Enoch did not die. Rather Moses wrote that “Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him” (Gen. 5:24). Paul records the same event by saying that he “was not found, because God had translated him” (Heb. 11:5).
    Thus the Scripture records that Enoch was not found because God took him, or “translated” him. THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT ENOCH WENT TO HEAVEN when he was translated. Instead it says he was not found.
    Certainly Enoch was “translated,” but what does the word “translate” mean?
    Strange as it may seem, nowhere in all the Bible does “translate” mean to make immortal!
    The original Greek word for “translate” is metatithemi. According to Strong’s Concordance it signifies: transfer, transport, exchange, change sides.
    The same Greek word is rendered “carried over” in Acts 7:16. Here we read that after Jacob DIED his body was “carried over”—transported, TRANSLATED—to Sychem WHERE HE WAS BURIED! That’s what your Bible says! Jacob was transported or TRANSLATED to the place of burial!
    That is why Moses said that God TOOK Enoch. God removed—translated—him so that he was not found. God took Enoch and buried him!
    In Deuteronomy 34:6 we read also how God took Moses from the people after which he died and was buried by God. “But no man knoweth his sepulcher unto this day.” God removed Moses—God translated him—and he was not found either!
    So Enoch was not made immortal after all! He was taken away and was not found. ALL his days were three hundred and sixty-five! That’s as long as Enoch lived.
    Notice another proof that “translate” does not mean to make immortal. It is found in Col. 1:13: the Father “hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath TRANSLATED us into the kingdom of His dear Son.” Here the Bible says that Christians are already translated—but Christians still die! We are not immortal bodies, but mortal flesh and blood. Although we were once part of the darkness of this world, now we are TRANSLATED, removed from darkness into the light of the kingdom of God.

    Did Elijah Go To Heaven?
    You have been told that Elijah went to heaven. Yet over 900 years after Elijah was taken up by a whirlwind Jesus Himself said. “NO MAN ascended up to heaven, but He that came down from heaven, even the Son of man!” (John 3:13.)
    Is this a Bible contradiction? Did Elijah really ascend to the heaven where God’s throne is—even though Jesus said he didn’t?
    If Elijah is not in heaven today, then where did Elijah go?


  9. JENNIFER YEARWOOD August 19, 2013 at 11:42 PM #



  10. ac August 19, 2013 at 11:17 PM #

    yes GP and the same time point me to the bible verse wher Jesus said he was coming SOON.before his death and after his resurrection.


  11. JUST ASKING August 20, 2013 at 1:14 AM #


    PEOPLE LIKE ARTHUR (the call in program fella on now on Q.FM -repeat) ARE DEFENDING NONSENSE BY THIS GOVERNMENT.




  12. balance August 20, 2013 at 4:52 AM #

    seems passing strange that bu contributors and surprisingly miller too have given mr sinckler a pass for misrepresenting the facts relating to the payment of fees by the committee set up to look at funding the university


  13. balance August 20, 2013 at 4:57 AM #

    If Elijah is not in heaven today, then where did Elijah go?

    AC where in your view is heaven?


  14. ac August 20, 2013 at 5:35 AM #

    Where Did Elijah Go?
    This has been the perplexing problem to so many!
    He did not ascend to the throne of God. Jesus said so! Yet he couldn’t remain in the air forever.
    And God did not say that Elijah was to die at that time. If he were, Elisha could have assumed his new office without the removal of Elijah, for we know that Elisha died in office after fulfilling his duty (II Kings 13:14).
    The sons of the prophets who knew that their master was to be removed also that Elijah was not to die then. That is why they were fearful that the Spirit of God might have allowed him to drop “upon some mountain, or into some valley” (II Kings 2:16). Elisha knew that God would preserve Elijah from falling, but at their insistence he permitted men to go in search for him—to no avail.
    Elijah was gone!
    And where to? Certainly the whirlwind used by God could not take him beyond the earth’s atmosphere. Neither does the Bible account leave Elijah in the air!
    The Answer Unfolds
    Let us notice the next few years and see what further events the Scripture records. The new king of Israel was another son of Ahab, Jehoram, or Joram as he is sometimes called. The beginning of his reign marked the year of the removal of Elijah (II Kings 1:18 and 3:1). During this king’s reign Elisha was the recognized prophet of God (II Kings 3:11). In the fifth year of Joram king of Israel, the son of the king of Judah began to reign along with his father in Judah (II Kings 8:16). His name also was Jehoram. The first thing he did to establish his kingdom rule was to put his relatives to the sword lest they should claim the throne from him (11 Chronicles 2 1:4). For nearly six years he followed the ways of the nations about him and did evil in God’s sight.
    Almost ten years had now expired since Elijah was taken from the people. But what do you think was about to happen?


  15. NationBLPnewspaper August 20, 2013 at 6:55 AM #

    The Nation BLP Newspaper is leading the fight against the government on the UWI issue. So much for a fair and balanced coverage of the issues that gives readers both sides of the debate.

    The Nation BLP newspaper is the most biased media house in Barbados worse by far than CBC , The Advocate and even its subsidiary VOB. absolutely DISGRACEFUL.


  16. NationBLPnewspaper August 20, 2013 at 7:01 AM #

    Tennyson Joseph – a certified BLP yardfowl.


  17. pieceuhderockyeahright August 20, 2013 at 8:15 AM #


    I am going to do 2 things that I try not to do.

    1. Use an article on a substantive subject to comment on a non-tangential, theological thread

    2. Comment on a “sanctum sanctorum” issue and pray that the masonics do not send the hibbygibby hobologlobins for me while I am sleeping tonight

    To the unitiated I would share this and hope that you understand

    “Touch me not for I am not ascended to The Father”

    The “vehicle” which rose on Easter which Jesus the Christ incarnated in IS NOT the same “body” that the doubting Thomas pushed his hands through the wounds in the palms post glorious Resurrection!

    Sinful man, enfolded in sinful frame, CANNOT enter into the same domain as PURE GOD!

    There are many mysteries that are spoken of clearly in the Old and New Testaments but all men have the gift of sight but few the gift od vision.

    Translation speaks of the reclaiming of “essence” and that vehicle which belongs to that domain IT DOES NOT SPEAK TO THE FODDER AND DECAY OF BODY THAT CANNOT PASS THE VEIL

    This is the Mystery of the Immaculate Conception and why, for those of us who choose to believe, and respect those who DO NOT BELIEVE, this is why the Coming of The Second Adam for the first fallen adam ( purposely commonized because the 2nd is capitalized) this is why some of us are in perpetual awe that Majesty made this sacrifice at Calvary

    I will not foist my experiences a la Christ on any of you but as for me, and my household, we believe in One Living God and Jesus is His Son

    When Moses came back after communing with GOD during his scribing the Commamdments his “proximity” with THE PRESENCE cause Moses’ essence to shine so much that the rest of them could not look on his face

    The prostitutes like Holmes Williams and Jippy Doyle and the procession of archbishops and popes have failed to speak to and of A LIVING GOD so we the masses are guided through a glass darkly.

    @ All

    Forgive me this digression and ranting for what has nothing to do with UWI financing and yet has everything to do with it


  18. islandgal246 August 20, 2013 at 8:26 AM #

    “If a Christian believes Jesus is coming soon he does not have to provide you with proof.”

    So does MAD people. Jesus is coming is a whole lotta hog wash. Wunna did waiting from the time wunna came from Africa when the slavemasters gave wunna a God to believe in. A God that tell wunna that it is better to believe in him than the African religion wunna had. If GP was the last doctor on earth I would never go to him for advice.He is delusional!


  19. Yagga Rowe August 20, 2013 at 8:33 AM #

    GP is delusional
    here is something
    GP is delusional
    islandgal says so
    how she know
    GP is delusional
    last doctor on earth
    she would go
    would GP refuse she


  20. Yagga Rowe August 20, 2013 at 8:54 AM #

    lot o people
    grudge UWI graduates
    hate UWI
    never went
    will never go
    glad that students of black people put under pressure
    grudgeful minded
    hate UWI
    would like to shut UWI down
    grudge ful /misery loving
    build a road- they quarrel
    build airport- they quarrel
    build a cross-over -they quarrel
    st lucia got 10 on Gros Islet hi-way

    grudgefull minded /short sighted people
    want to stop UWI
    they even oppose cricket team in local cricket/keith holder foundation school is all that/but has a problem with uwi
    grudgeful minded
    vex with UWI
    WHY ?


  21. Bush Tea August 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM #

    @ ac
    …much respect!


  22. ac August 20, 2013 at 5:26 PM #

    CONCLUSION OF WHERE DID ELIJAH GO? ………………………….. Letter Comes from Elijah!
    Yes, after this wicked rule by the Jewish king, God chose Elijah to write a letter and have it sent to the king!
    The contents of the letter are found in II Chronicles 21:12-15. In part it reads: “Because thou hast not walked in the ways of. . . thy father . – . but hast walked in the way of the kings of Israel.. . and also hast slain thy brethren of thy father’s house, which were better than thyself. . . thou shalt have great sickness by disease.”
    From the wording of the letter, it is clear that Elijah wrote it after these events had occurred, for he speaks of them as past events, and of the disease as future. Two years after the king became diseased the king died—having reigned only eight short years (II Chronicles 21:18-20).
    This proves that the letter was written about ten years after Elijah had been taken to another location by the whirlwind.
    God used Elijah to convey the message because he was the prophet of God in days of the present king’s father—and the son was not going in the ways of his obedient father, Jehosophat.
    The letter he had others deliver was recognized as his—proving that he was known to be alive someplace. Just how much longer he lived, the Bible does not reveal. But in that “it is appointed unto men once to die”—Elijah must have died somewhat later. See Hebrews 9:27. All human beings born of Adam, and that includes Elijah, must die—for we read: “In Adam ALL DIE” (I Corinthians 15:22). Elijah was a man “subject to like passions as we are” (James 5:17)…subject to human nature and death! The prophet, being mortal flesh as we are, could not have lived much beyond his seventy years.
    To suppose that God gave him the power of an endless life of nearly three thousand years already is to read into the Bible what is not there! He was mortal, subject to death, and after being lifted into the atmospheric heavens, spent the remaining years of his separate life at some little-known location on the earth, living as every human being, before he naturally died.


  23. ac August 20, 2013 at 5:28 PM #

    Was Elijah on the Mount?
    The only remaining texts that puzzle people are those relative to the appearance of Moses and Elijah on the Mount of Transfiguration with Jesus. The record of the event is found in Matthew 17:1-9; Mark 9:2-10; Luke 9:28-36.
    Leaving the mountain, Jesus told his disciples: “Tell the vision to no man (Mat. 17:9).” A vision is not a material reality but a supernatural picture observed by the eyes.
    Moses died, and was buried (Deut. 34:5-6). Both he and Elijah were still dead in their graves, but in vision both they and Jesus were seen in the glory of the resurrection—an event to which Moses and Elijah have not yet attained (Heb. 11:39). The vision was granted the disciples after Jesus had spoken of the glory of immortality in the coming kingdom.
    How plain the Bible is! Elijah is dead in the dust of the earth awaiting the resurrection of the just. Elijah, some years after being removed in the whirlwind, went to the grave, but will rise again to live forevermore!


  24. ac August 21, 2013 at 7:55 PM #

    this story is fascinating to say the least mindboggling the most but what is most alarming is that many Christains who were fed untruths on this mystery of Elijah and Enoch have gone on into eternity forever buried in ignorance because of a lack of knowledge .PEACE


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