Barbados Politics Crosses The Line

Yes, there is a link between the BLP and Threats of Violence

Around August 2007, Barbados Free Press Exposed burst on the scene, with a look-alike version of the Barbados Free Press site. They even copied BFP’s custom logo! This plagiarism appeared to be designed to confuse the public, and to draw traffic from BFP by deception. One of BFPE’s first posts was “The Sad Demise of Barbados Free Press”. Shock! BLP links to those making threats! In “The Sad Demise of Barbados Free Press”, BFPE comes out spewing words like “Sweet Slaughterhouse September!!!!”. Let’s get the context straight. We are not talking about teenagers joking around on the net. We are talking about a political environment where:

  • anonymous violent threats are conspicuously being made by public comments on the blogs, especially on BFP and BU.
  • comments posted by BFPE advocating murder, arson and rape.
  • at least one shot was fired at the home of a DLP election candidate, and faeces were smeared at her business.

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We are concerned that the Barbados Free Press Exposed blog and its surrogate blogs continue to issue threats to some of our commenters in the bajan blogosphere. We are aware that this is one of the challenges of managing information on the Internet. What we don’t understand is why other Barbadian blogs, which appear to be unaffiliated to BFPE would continue to list those blogs on their sidebar. This situation is of deep concern to us because in one case that we know of, a commenter has reported the threats to the police and Cable & Wireless with little success. To some this might appear to be a trivial matter but when officialdom chooses to toss out procedure over discretion it should concern us all.

The question which we are asking ourselves this morning is ‘should BU delete comments from bloggers who have the offensive blogs listed on their sidebars?

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23 Comments on “Barbados Politics Crosses The Line”

  1. Green Monkey March 29, 2008 at 9:23 AM #

    Isn’t making death threats and threats of violence considered terrorism? I guess terrorism just isn’t a high priority item for the RBPF and Cable and Wireless.

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  2. Anonymous March 29, 2008 at 9:40 AM #

    Yes to your question above.

    From the very first day Notes From The Margi was picked up by BFP,I noted that they are a BLP plant.

    Their actions so far have borne this out,though they try to cloak it with false apperance of balance and reasonableness.

    They have supported that vile BFPE site from inception under the guise of freedom of speech.

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  3. Anonymous March 29, 2008 at 5:22 PM #

    The BLP Blog is the official blog of the previous government and the current Official Opposition. It is disgusting that they continue to list and thus endorse a blog that threatens to murder and commit arson upon political opponents.

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  4. Ian Bourne March 29, 2008 at 6:21 PM #

    I removed certain places from my list but still quote where appropriate – is this cause for moderation? I did an item this morning quoting yourselves, BFP as well as the one from the side…

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  5. Tell me Why March 29, 2008 at 9:49 PM #

    Come on people, this type of behaviour is due to political frauds who pretend to be a supporter of a party, but who are really supporters of another party. In this way, these propagandalist will use threats and curse words to make the other party look bad.

    Someone used my sign-in name on the BLP blog cursing the same BLP party and threatening the former Prime Minister. These are the tactics used by power hungry people.

    So based on these facts, I will never align myself in the ridiculing of any commenter until I see the real facts that we have the perpetrator.

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  6. West Side Davie March 30, 2008 at 1:44 AM #

    According to Tell Me Why there is no need for a police investigation of the arsons at Adrian Loveridge’s hotel: they never happened. And all those threats, he has them figured out too. They are the DLP, not the BLP that threatened to murder Adrian. They did it to make the BLP look bad.

    I guess that is why the BLP still links to BFPE, to assist in making themselves look bad!

    What kind of idiocy logic is Tell Me Why promoting? Easy: it is the old Bajan technique of confuse and obfuscate. You can get away with anything by writing any threat off as “political”.

    Never mind the arsons at the hotel!

    That makes me feel much better knowing that Tell Me Why has the definitive answers for everything.

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  7. Wishing in Vain March 30, 2008 at 7:57 AM #

    Is it not absolutely disgusting that the opposition’s blog site would provide a link to the vile and disgusting site of BFPE ???

    This in itself suggest that they condone and support the style and the manner of operation of BFPE.

    Maybe this is why they are where they are outside, fighting like crabs in a bucket of water, becaue of actions like this and arrogance and corruption.

    Any truth to the story that mottley is actively seeking a job offshore for liz thompson to get her out of Barbados ?

    Reports are that she is not ajusting well to her lost fame and fortune nor is she and the scoundrel Simmons adjusting to life in opposition nor are they enjoying the place where they are now forced to sit considering where they came from and how they got to the Senate?????

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  8. Wishing in Vain March 30, 2008 at 8:06 AM #

    Reports reaching me state that the two of these has beens were not only late for the election of the President of the Senate but when they did show up the thompson thing ripped her corsage off and threw it to the ground like a woman pocessed stating I do not want this crap on me, then to hear Senator Alleyne state that they talked thru the entire State Opening is in itself digusting low life action, a wonderful display of poor manners and form by two that should know better.
    but lets understand they are the rejects of the election the also rans of politics.

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  9. David March 30, 2008 at 9:07 AM #

    Surprise, the BLP blog publishes…

    A word to the Wise

    28 mins ago by labourparty.

    Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak.

    Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen. – Sir Winston Churchill.

    THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND NATIONAL INSURANCE would do well to heed these immortal words of Sir Winston Churchill when prescribing remedies for the investment of pensions funds owned by thousands of Barbadians.

    No amount of ungracious shouting across the floor of the House about lecturing by some, who should know better, will dispute two simple facts. One, that Owen Arthur has a considerable grasp of the intricacies of large injections of cash into the local economy and two, this is a young Government with only one member who has had any Cabinet experience.

    It is time that the Government faces its fears and the reality that the Opposition is not seeking to deny them the chance given to them by the electorate to run the country. By the same token, we will not sit idly by when the security of Barbadians’ pensions is being threatened.

    While we can admire the spirit of the doctor’s prescription, simplistic though it is, to invest the millions in paid-up contributions in a socially productive remedy, we must caution against playing fast and loose with people’s future financial security. The $300 million in surplus contributions Bajans make to the National Insurance Scheme (NIS) every year must be invested to yield the greatest possible return in the safest possible way. We trust that one of the “dynamic duo”, preferably Senator Arni Boyce, will give the doctor a crash course in “Investing 101″.

    What are the available options? Previous NIS boards have been challenged to find the right mix of investment vehicles to earn the best return with the least risk, in addition to the strictures imposed by the domestic economy’s ability to absorb such large inflows of cash. Size does matter in this case, Doc.

    Dr David Estwick has stated that the NIS must stop financing Government’s debt. However, Government debentures (preferred because of their higher yield) and Treasury bills are considered a soft risk simply because no Government of Barbados has ever defaulted on payment. It therefore has less to do with financing Government’s debt and more to do with the prudent financial management of the people’s money.

    Further more, the NIS is limited to a ten per cent cap when it invests in equity of companies so as to minimise any risk. Any investment over this requires ministerial approval.

    Foreign investment has been increasingly allowed in the last decade. The NIS may invest in United States Treasury bonds, earning a good yield, spreading the risk and removing the surplus that the domestic economy would be hard-pressed to absorb comfortably. However, apart from taking foreign exchange from Barbados, we are effectively financing the deficit of the United States – doing for the United States what Dr Estwick does not want us to do for Barbados.

    Further, investment in low-income housing is essentially in the sub-prime market. The NIS has traditionally made some of its investments in housing but through financial institutions structured to deal with housing, like the Barbados Mortgage Finance Corporation. The investment must be carefully appraised and managed if we are to avoid the historic crash of this market segment recently witnessed in the United States. It is here that the doctor’s prescription could well become an unpalatable antidote with some nasty and unwanted side effects.

    If we write an open cheque to the people most at risk by any contraction in the economy and they cannot make their mortgage payments, their personal misfortune will have ripple effects throughout the whole economy. And it is not that we do not want people to progress, but the exposure to high risk must be contained.

    Now is not the time for experimentation, Dr Estwick, for not only will you be putting people’s life savings at risk, but their pensions as well.

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  10. David March 30, 2008 at 9:09 AM #

    Surprise, the BLP blog publishes…

    A word to the Wise

    28 mins ago by labourparty.

    Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak.

    Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen. – Sir Winston Churchill.

    THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND NATIONAL INSURANCE would do well to heed these immortal words of Sir Winston Churchill when prescribing remedies for the investment of pensions funds owned by thousands of Barbadians.

    No amount of ungracious shouting across the floor of the House about lecturing by some, who should know better, will dispute two simple facts. One, that Owen Arthur has a considerable grasp of the intricacies of large injections of cash into the local economy and two, this is a young Government with only one member who has had any Cabinet experience.

    It is time that the Government faces its fears and the reality that the Opposition is not seeking to deny them the chance given to them by the electorate to run the country. By the same token, we will not sit idly by when the security of Barbadians’ pensions is being threatened.

    While we can admire the spirit of the doctor’s prescription, simplistic though it is, to invest the millions in paid-up contributions in a socially productive remedy, we must caution against playing fast and loose with people’s future financial security. The $300 million in surplus contributions Bajans make to the National Insurance Scheme (NIS) every year must be invested to yield the greatest possible return in the safest possible way. We trust that one of the “dynamic duo”, preferably Senator Arni Boyce, will give the doctor a crash course in “Investing 101″.

    What are the available options? Previous NIS boards have been challenged to find the right mix of investment vehicles to earn the best return with the least risk, in addition to the strictures imposed by the domestic economy’s ability to absorb such large inflows of cash. Size does matter in this case, Doc.

    Dr David Estwick has stated that the NIS must stop financing Government’s debt. However, Government debentures (preferred because of their higher yield) and Treasury bills are considered a soft risk simply because no Government of Barbados has ever defaulted on payment. It therefore has less to do with financing Government’s debt and more to do with the prudent financial management of the people’s money.

    Further more, the NIS is limited to a ten per cent cap when it invests in equity of companies so as to minimise any risk. Any investment over this requires ministerial approval.

    Foreign investment has been increasingly allowed in the last decade. The NIS may invest in United States Treasury bonds, earning a good yield, spreading the risk and removing the surplus that the domestic economy would be hard-pressed to absorb comfortably. However, apart from taking foreign exchange from Barbados, we are effectively financing the deficit of the United States – doing for the United States what Dr Estwick does not want us to do for Barbados.

    Further, investment in low-income housing is essentially in the sub-prime market. The NIS has traditionally made some of its investments in housing but through financial institutions structured to deal with housing, like the Barbados Mortgage Finance Corporation. The investment must be carefully appraised and managed if we are to avoid the historic crash of this market segment recently witnessed in the United States. It is here that the doctor’s prescription could well become an unpalatable antidote with some nasty and unwanted side effects.

    If we write an open cheque to the people most at risk by any contraction in the economy and they cannot make their mortgage payments, their personal misfortune will have ripple effects throughout the whole economy. And it is not that we do not want people to progress, but the exposure to high risk must be contained.

    Now is not the time for experimentation, Dr Estwick, for not only will you be putting people’s life savings at risk, but their pensions as well.

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  11. David March 30, 2008 at 10:59 AM #

    We note the comment made by Minister McClean congratulating the two young Senators Ifill and Griffith on their contructive contributions during the Estimates. We also took note of Senator Newton’s call for all Senators to abide by traditions and the decorum observed by the chamber over the years.

    Wonder what that was all about!

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  12. Anonymous March 30, 2008 at 11:40 AM #

    Did not realise velma newton made that point David.

    I wonder how the DLP officials will take that – I also wonder whether she is the lone voice with that view in the upper house.

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  13. me March 30, 2008 at 2:30 PM #

    LOL….well Maxine McClean will soon put her foot in her mouth like she always does…. I’m with Ms Newton. And doesnt the corn rowed fellow have a little sugar in his tank????

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  14. Sam Gamgee March 30, 2008 at 3:46 PM #

    Did somebody poop out loud in the Senate? You go BU. Start # 4. LOL.

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  15. Sam Gamgee March 30, 2008 at 3:47 PM #

    Forgive me. I could not resist it. When something is dead bury it neh!

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  16. Kathy March 30, 2008 at 10:09 PM #

    After several months on the BLP blogroll, the BFPE link has suddenly been removed.

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  17. Wishing in Vain March 31, 2008 at 11:10 AM #

    The reality of the situation is that even on the 31 st of March 2008 the NATION NEWSPAPER has not yet woken up to the fact that there was and election held on the 15 th of January 2008 and the ruling party of the day were evicted from power and control of this great island we call home.
    Since the election the paper has shown a clear bias towards positive coverage for the blp, not sure how they manage to spin it that way as they are totally out of sync with the citizens who charged the blp with arrogance and corruption and gross misconduct in office, but their effort to make the blp look good is ongoing, what a job they have on their hands made even harder with the reports being filed on things such as HARDWOOD HOUSING, Urban Development, National Sports Council, explain how Booza King could charge the organisation he is part of and involved in $48,000 for catering for less that 120 persons at an event held by the N S C or where did the container of donated shoes from the gov’t of China to the people Barbados get sold by these same bastards, this is only the tip of the iceberg these are some among others.

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  18. Anonymous March 31, 2008 at 2:15 PM #

    the comment by Senator Newton was in response to behaviour by Liz and Kerrie which was confrontational and Bombastic as well as their lack of decorum throughout much of the official precedings and not a comment relating to the corn rowed senator

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  19. justice March 31, 2008 at 3:53 PM #

    I thought not, Anonymous. Senator Newton is far more sensible than that!

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  20. Sam Gamgee March 31, 2008 at 6:24 PM #

    Thanks my Anonymous friend. Makes sense. Reading BU’s comment I thought somebody had p..ped, cause hair can’t really be an issue anywhere in this world except on BU.

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  21. David March 31, 2008 at 7:25 PM #

    NFTM have been reinstated on our blogroll.

    Cat Piss and Pepper Removed From Blogroll.
    53 mins ago by notesfromthemargin.

    The article posted today was in our view not acceptable. These three sites have been listed as “on probation”, and this clearly violates the boundaries of that (in our view anyway). My hope for these sites was that they would provide a strong voice of an opposition supporter’s view, so far there have been a few good articles but for the most part it has been fairly quiet.

    For the moment the other two sites will remain, but they should consider this a warning.

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